I only follow the patriarchal aspects of Islam. Not the aspects that make you a cuck e.g. Abstaining from womanising, penetrating a sweet trap virgin ass and lowering your gaze.
fact. the government FAILED to protect us that day. Reasons for the failure, UNKNOWN.
Therefore the gubmint diddit? u/Kekislaw, is being a retarded faggot something you merely adopted, or were you born in that darkness?
Causing the structural columns to fail at exactly the same time is what Controlled Demo is all about. It will not ever happen naturally.
So I guess a building being hit by giant airplanes and catching fire is totally natural circumstances, right u/cebusaxon? Holy shit, for a structural designer, you sure seem like the absolute definition of degenerate retard with monkey paws for a brain.
You certainly don't have the cognitive ability to be in anything remotely related to engineering. The aircraft were normal size , not giant, for an airliner. They clearly did not contact all of the columns. Some were damaged far more than others, and some remained undamaged at the elevation of the impacts. Even simple structural designs are calculated to be at least 2.5x stronger than worst case scenario.
Normal size!? It was the second largest in their fleet at the time, and just as large as the biggest aircrafts in operation when the towers were erected. Stop LARPing.
They were both Boeing 767-200 series. These are small to mid-sized commercial carriers, usually for domestic flights only. They're only 3/4 the size of the 777 and a little over 3/5 the size of the 747. The only Boeing commercial liner smaller is the 737. And we're only talking Boeings here, not Airbus, which has an even larger commercial carrier than Boeing offers.
The thing is, you're using "mid-sized" to describe things that are the size of a football field. Yes, the 767 is "mid-sized" compared to the flying warehouses that are long haulers, but that's like saying that the moon is small compared to the Earth. Relative size does not "small" make.
Wow, I thought the other guy was /r/iamverysmart material. Man I was so fucking wrong. No intelligent person talks like that you fucking idiot.
For a fucking engineer, you really don't know shit about how buildings work. You have absolutely no fucking clue about how explosions work either. What about shadowing, did you forget about that? Did you personally do the NDT inspections on the columns? What NDT procedure would you have used? I think FPI would have been a good start.
I am curious why the Vegas shooting has had such little coverage since it happened. You'd think something so audacious would be prime time news for weeks/months.
You could maybe argue nobody cares about rednecks getting blasted but even that Texas church shooting (which was all rednecks) got more air time. It even had a resolution/explanation to some degree.
What is there to keep covering in the Vegas shooting? We know who did it so there's no ongoing investigation. The guy killed himself, so there's no up coming trial with lawyers giving soundbites to the news. No use writing OMG a crazy person was able to get a hold of mass quantities of guns and ammo stories because that's business as usual. Aside from possible upcoming lawsuits I can't think of anything that's newsworthy.
I am curious why the Vegas shooting has had such little coverage since it happened. You'd think something so audacious would be prime time news for weeks/months.
We can’t figure out why he did it, so there’s no way to spin it past, “oh no a guy just shot another guy ban the guns”. And you can only say that so many times before moving on to the next news item.
I mean it honestly kind of looks like the reason is that he really wanted to shoot a bunch of people, and outside of the division of precrime there's not that much you can do or say about that
it’s simple to change guns from semi to full auto. guns last forever- you can still shoot guns from the civil war.
regulation and restriction only works for people who follow laws. people who are gonna kill 60 people will find a way to get their hands on weapons regardless of their legality.
we have a mental illness problem in the US with mass shootings as one of its symptoms. take away guns magically with the snap of your fingers and it’ll be cars and knives or some other form of violence.
are you just being purposefully being obtuse? i said vehicle and knives are examples of weapons. there are many things people can be killed with. i then highlighted an example how someone killed 80 people with a truck.
do more people have a access to trucks or nuclear weapons?
should me make trucks illegal?
i’m sorry that you get triggered when someone brings up points that you can’t refute without using fake examples (i could kill people with nukes).
why not argue real life examples like the one in Nice. more people were killed without guns in that attack then the vegas or orlando shootings that used guns. should we ban trucks? or maybe, just maybe, back to my original point, there’s a mental health issue.
yep no one uses guns or rifles for oh i don’t know hunting?
weapons are why america broke from from england and isn’t some piece of shit country that gets invaded and ran over like wherever the fuck you’re from. where is that by the way id love to know?
yeah we totally don’t have healthcare. besides medcare and medicaid. oh and if you don’t qualify for those it’s because you’re employed and have it through work. but yes we definitely don’t have health insurance. and it’s definitely not superior to yours. waiting in line for 4 hours to see a doc sounds awesome.
Nobody wants to admit that it might be related to gambling and that gambling needs to be regulated. It's not a culture wars issue, so nobody gives a shit. They just ignore it and go back to fighting over who has to make the gay wedding cake.
Yeah. I'm not saying he just had one bad day in the casino and flipped out. But gambling was a very important part of this guy's life and the fact that nobody is interested in whether or not that was part of his motive is telling.
it's not the 90s anymore, no one really cares about spree shooters unless theres an angle to sell. just getting the high score isnt enough for proper recognition unfortunately
There's this right that people have in the United States called "trial by jury".
It doesn't matter how insane those people were. They should have gone to court, not been trapped in a burning building against heavy armor and no chance of a trial.
The account of the fbi agent who fired first is not credible. The behavioral consultants advice on dealing with Koresh (who was not hostile) was completely ignored by the fbi. They basically stormed a compound when it could've been resolved by negotiation, as koresh indicated he was willing to negiotiate.
They also left the 2 bodies of the young men they killed hanging over the fence for like 3 days, in full view of their families.
The fbi and Janet Reno fucked up immensely in Waco.
In what world do religious zealots who modify stock piles of rifles to full-auto capacity have any interest in a peaceful negotiation? They knew of the raid and armed themselves accordingly instead of surrendering immediately. The gubment did some stupid shit but holy fuck, it was like 90% the fault of the wacko child molesters.
Even if you don't enjoy the humor, they do their research (sourced btw). Waco was a fucking travesty. Plus it's just kinda a good thing to be suspicious of the narrative favorable to the powerful force that "won"
Also, don't you love how they're allowed to link directly here without getting banned for brigading? And how out of context they pull things? The thread they tried to brigade me from is utterly hilarious.
The elimination of the "white" race is inevitable. In fact, race is, for the most part, a nonsense construct, but the "white" race even moreso. It is clear that there is no explicit, accurate definition for being "white", the phantasm of "race purity" is far from reality and is grounded in nothing but the fantasies of people who think that those that they do not consider "white" are "taking muh womenz" (read: insecurity, as well as misogyny).
In present-day society, the identity of Western countries and their inhabitants are not pegged down by race, but by nationality—additionally, you can now see people mixing their origins with their current nationality, an example being so called "hyphenated Americans". These people range from someone holding some aspects of their culture dear to them, to someone who calls themselves so because "my [insert near ancestor] was from [insert foreign country]". Contrary to the European failure at integrating immigrants, the United States has done well with the integration of immigrants, and miscegenation of races will thus be unavoidable, and the delusion of "white purity" will become extinct.
Even in Europe, although they may not have succeeded in integrating their immigrants well (leading to the formation of ghettos such as the ones in Tower Hamlets, London), there will always be a few immigrants who manage to escape from the grasps of these ghettos and integrate within larger society. This leads to race-mixing as well, albeit to a lesser extent, but every bit counts, and every bit helps. Why? When two people of color have children, you can usually see distinct features from both parents present in the child. When a person of color and a white person have a child, the most commonly (and usually only) feature passed down from the white parent is lighter skin (cumskin). This is due to the fact that the genes that lead to the expression of so-called "white" phenotypes, are for the most part, recessive. This facilitates the elimination of "white" features in society.
Furthermore, children who have blood from both a person of color and a white person are forsaken by those who fantasize about the white race being preserved, even though they carry recessive genes from their white parent, genes that could eventually be expressed again. This will also contribute to the demise of the so-called "white race".
Eventually, no person who considers themselves "white" will have so-called "pure" genes. Hence, the white race will have been eliminated by the standards set by the race purists themselves, having led themselves to their own demise.
White race and their cum colored skins need to be eliminated. Thankfully fertile white girls have been only helping accelerate this process as they choose and breed with the superior and bigger dicked black men over white men more and more.
Ehhh that was probably due to the literal powderkeg the fbi created with their use of now outlawed teargas canisters which they threw in a compound with limited ventilation, full of women and children, that was being routinely fired upon by their agents outside.
All the davidians were free to leave at any time, in fact some did. The ones that remained chose to stay. Koresh was a crazy ass cult leader who abused kids, but he was not aggressive nor did he provoke the atf or fbi to violence.
The attack had nothing to do with the sex abuse (which is prevalent in literally in every religious org, particualrly the small ones) btw. It was suspected weapons violations, i.e. owning illegal guns.
The world is better off without a bunch of gun hoarding child rapists jerking themselves off over a prophet. Inshallah the scientologists will be next.
Firstly, only Koresh molested the kids. The other people were just religious nutbags.
And sure, PRAISE AMERIKA I love it when the govt can murder without consequence! Particularly since we have such a rational and honorable POTUS nowadays
So all those kids just chose to stay there and burn themselves alive? They're old enough to consent to that?
sex abuse (which is prevalent in literally in every religious org, particualrly the small ones)
Thanks for pointing that out. For a second there I was thinking it was wrong to rape kids and we should put a stop to it. But I guess it's just one of those things that happens and we should learn to accept it.
Their mothers chose to stay, and they burned because the fucking FBI used combustible tear gas in enclosed spaces after cutting off electricity for days
Koresh molested children, but that literally has nothing to do with the abuse of state power that occurred at Waco. They were investigating suspected weapons charges.
Remarking on the obvious sex abuse (all religions have it) is postmortem rationale to excuse the fucking government to murder it's own citizens. They were notr aggressive, they were not hostile. We are supposed to be the "land of the free" and yet 80 plus citizens were murdered when it could've been easily solved with negotiation.
We had one of those "not aggressive, not hostile" cults in Oregon. They just wanted to be left alone. Then they used biological weapons to try to assassinate their enemies. There were 751 victims but whatever, they should have just accepted that their neighbors were a little quirky.
The 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack was the food poisoning of 751 individuals in The Dalles, Oregon, through the deliberate contamination of salad bars at ten local restaurants with Salmonella. A leading group of followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later known as Osho) had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections. The incident was the first and single largest bioterrorist attack in United States history. The attack is one of only two confirmed terrorist uses of biological weapons to harm humans since 1945, the other being the 2001 anthrax attacks across the USA.
Having previously gained political control of Antelope, Oregon, Rajneesh's followers, who were based in nearby Rajneeshpuram, sought election to two of the three seats on the Wasco County Circuit Court that were up for election in November 1984.
Bb I already 😍 u so you don't gotta be hitting on me so hard.
But seriously, this shit is all the same. Jonestown. Aum Shinrykyo. The Rajneeshes. They all just wanted to be left alone. If not letting your neighbors murder you through chemical or biological terrorist attacks is "keeping my USA worship pure", then I'm 1000% guilty of keeping my USA worship pure.
Wow so you obviously have no idea abou t the branch davidians. The people in town actually liked them, and found them relatable. They would come and shoot on the range with people from Waco, who unamiously said they were polite, welcoming, and friendly
The branch davidians were no more monstrous than a local Catholic church (for abuse) or a local gun club.
Have you never met rural people? I have to ask because you seem super comfortable with "othering" weirdo Christians
The people in town actually liked them, and found them relatable.
A relative of mine did business with the Rajneeshees and found them relatable. It turned out they were terrorists plotting to mass murder us.
The branch davidians were no more monstrous than a local Catholic church (for abuse)
So we should be equally brutal against Catholic pedophiles. You'll get no argument from me there.
you seem super comfortable with "othering" weirdo Christians
I've spent the last half year trying to explain to leftist retards that Christians are not the monsters that Seth MacFarlane would make them out to be. But when it comes to pedophiles, those are Satanists. You burn them alive or you stake them down in a bog to drown, but you don't make excuses for them.
They are nowhere close to jonestown or aum shinrikyo
That's true. Aum Shinryko didn't all kill themselves.
I watched it as it happened. I don't need a bunch of fucking millenial revisionists to tardsplain it to me. What's next? Is some podcast going to tell me that Saddam Hussein was just misunderstood?
You literally have no idea about the branch davidians. They were peaceful fucking weird isolated Christians. They were not dabgerou s to themselves or others
See now THIS i can get behind. They wouldnt even need to use highly combustible tear gas in an enclosed environment! And the fat deposits would inevitably start a grease fire
Waco was a screw up from the very beginning. They drove into a small Texas town in their govt sedans and wore suits. Their presence tipped off the cult right away.
Yeah, it was aggregiously mishandled from the outset because of lack of training, and janet Reno trying to flex
I m glad a top mod can acknowledge this. Maybe we should have a Waco respek day every year to pay respects because our degenerate govt will never admit their wrong doing, inshallah
Probably to the American citizens that lost their lives, particularly the women and children. It's a national embarrassment that we should acknowledge to prevent becoming state worshipping idiots. A truly "free" country would allow and appreciate showing respect to a group of citizens that were unjustly murdered by the state
Please explain the line between due process/investigation intensity suiting the charge in question and the government launching a literal seige on a peaceful for the most part law abiding sect of American citizens (sure cult, but that's irrelevant)
The mental INSTABILITY of a person is DIRECTLY proportional to the NUMBER of random words they CAPITALIZE in a GIVEN sentence. But you already know that, don't you /u/kekislaw?
Are you including based patriot Lt. Col Anthony Shaffer as a 'Conspiracy Nut'? Maybe you should read up on his whistle blowing about "Operation Able Danger", in which a government task group was TRACKING SEVERAL OF THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS FOR MONTHS before the attack. They were just waiting for approval from the justice department to apprehend them before they attacked. Guess what happened, the Government flatly REFUSED to accept their intelligence. They even refused to meet with Col
Schaffer in person, they sent lawyers to repel him.
fact. the government FAILED to protect us that day. Reasons for the failure, UNKNOWN. That is NOT 'Conspiracy Nut' talk. We NEEEED to know how and why and who.
We shouldn't be focusing on lunatic nut jobs' and their holgrams, space lasers and mini nuke theories. Those are likely disinformation campaigns anyway, to get ppl like you to dismiss it all as crack pot shit. We should instead be focusing on "intelligence failures", and why they happened. Was there an intentional disregard?? Why were these idiots NOT fired after their failures, that resulted in the deaths of over 3000 AMERICANS? Did you know that many of them were promoted?
I wouldn't put it past the deep state to LET it happen in order bring about certain policy shifts. You think that type of treachery is beneath these pedos and crooks?
Ever heard of "Project for a New American Century" or "PNAC"? The Neo-Cons and Neo-Liberal Power Brokers wrote of a need for a 'NEW PEARL HARBOR' in order to get the public opinion/policy shifts needed to increase our presence in the middle east. That was written MONTHS before 911. Look at the ppl who wrote it...ppl like Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney etc....
Cheap ad hominem from an anonymous lemming? Check.
No logical rebuttals?
Check.
Good luck, pal.
Do not waste your time if all you bring are logical fallacies.
I HOPE you get culturally ENRICHED by a BASED mudman REFUGEE.
TBH I thought that MY insult WAS pretty ORIGINAL. It's ALL good THOUGH because I don't waste any ENERGY believing that 9/11 is a DEEPstate JEW conspiracy. You talk about WASTING time, but I'm HAVING fun doing this and YOU seem to be FULL of ANGER.
....because you admit that you are intellectually deficient and therefore incapable of having a reasoned discourse?
Why is this, of all places, the wrong place? The_donald is amazing. Just what kind of bullshit excuse are you trying to articulate?
Hahahaha I never even said that you have no idea what I think about Vegas, and everyone who isn’t a gulable sheep knows the story is a lie. 🤣👍 LOSER!!!
Plus the UK reporter reporting it came down and it was still standing as she reported it. They knew.
https://youtu.be/qhNHur9Yvwg?t=24m8s
Look for the orig BBC video
Youtube link is to some blogger (David Icke) rambling in his basement. Apparently you have to do your own search for this bombshell BBC video. I guess putting the pieces of the puzzle together on your own is part of the fun of being a conspiracy nut.
Given that they killed a bunch of cops and then burned themselves alive, I think it's pretty clear that they needed more than just a polite suggestion to take some parenting classes.
Sure. Nobody could have ever guessed. It could have just been one of those nice cults where the leader respects everyone's boundaries and is a perfect gentleman.
Ok sure, and every group of American citizens that don't conform should get no due process or consideration after they're slaughtered by government agencies
O like Catholicism? Like every Christian youth camp? Would you be as dismissive if one of their e establishments were literally violently seiged and over 80 people died?
Literally only Koresh abused kids. Everyone else in that compound was a true believer. They were regular people. They were well liked in the town, rhey were friendly.
And when the FBI attacked they killed tons of kids and babies.
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1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-08
Therefore the gubmint diddit? u/Kekislaw, is being a retarded faggot something you merely adopted, or were you born in that darkness?
So I guess a building being hit by giant airplanes and catching fire is totally natural circumstances, right u/cebusaxon? Holy shit, for a structural designer, you sure seem like the absolute definition of degenerate retard with monkey paws for a brain.
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
u/cebusaxon designs fallout shelters, apparently.
1 cebusaxon 2017-12-08
You certainly don't have the cognitive ability to be in anything remotely related to engineering. The aircraft were normal size , not giant, for an airliner. They clearly did not contact all of the columns. Some were damaged far more than others, and some remained undamaged at the elevation of the impacts. Even simple structural designs are calculated to be at least 2.5x stronger than worst case scenario.
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
Normal size!? It was the second largest in their fleet at the time, and just as large as the biggest aircrafts in operation when the towers were erected. Stop LARPing.
1 cebusaxon 2017-12-08
They were both Boeing 767-200 series. These are small to mid-sized commercial carriers, usually for domestic flights only. They're only 3/4 the size of the 777 and a little over 3/5 the size of the 747. The only Boeing commercial liner smaller is the 737. And we're only talking Boeings here, not Airbus, which has an even larger commercial carrier than Boeing offers.
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
"..mid- to large-size..medium- to long-haul intercontinental routes..."
1 icyhat 2017-12-08
You fucking fake news asshole. Anything that paints the "good ones" in a bad light is fucking fake news.
1 xthorgoldx 2017-12-08
The thing is, you're using "mid-sized" to describe things that are the size of a football field. Yes, the 767 is "mid-sized" compared to the flying warehouses that are long haulers, but that's like saying that the moon is small compared to the Earth. Relative size does not "small" make.
1 icyhat 2017-12-08
Wow, I thought the other guy was /r/iamverysmart material. Man I was so fucking wrong. No intelligent person talks like that you fucking idiot.
For a fucking engineer, you really don't know shit about how buildings work. You have absolutely no fucking clue about how explosions work either. What about shadowing, did you forget about that? Did you personally do the NDT inspections on the columns? What NDT procedure would you have used? I think FPI would have been a good start.
1 ChipChippersonAMA 2017-12-08
/u/Kekislaw,
/u/cebusaxon?
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
Logical fallacies again. Don't build straw men here, buddy.
1 hbnsckl 2017-12-08
Nice ad hominid, retard.
1 icyhat 2017-12-08
Are they saying the great W failed to protect us? A republican allowed good Americans to die for no reason?
1 wwyzzerdd 2017-12-08
I am curious why the Vegas shooting has had such little coverage since it happened. You'd think something so audacious would be prime time news for weeks/months.
You could maybe argue nobody cares about rednecks getting blasted but even that Texas church shooting (which was all rednecks) got more air time. It even had a resolution/explanation to some degree.
This clearly means Trump was on the 32nd floor.
1 starship_litterbox 2017-12-08
Two words: WHITE. GENOCIDE.
YOU. WILL. NOT. REPLACE. US. WITHOUT. A. HIGHLY. RECOMMENDED. REPLACEMENT.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2017-12-08
Would 4 1/2 stars on amazon be good enough?
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
Trump only shoots people out of luxurious Trump® branded casino and hotels. Truly, the best hotels to shoot people from.
1 parameciidae 2017-12-08
What is there to keep covering in the Vegas shooting? We know who did it so there's no ongoing investigation. The guy killed himself, so there's no up coming trial with lawyers giving soundbites to the news. No use writing OMG a crazy person was able to get a hold of mass quantities of guns and ammo stories because that's business as usual. Aside from possible upcoming lawsuits I can't think of anything that's newsworthy.
1 SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-12-08
We can’t figure out why he did it, so there’s no way to spin it past, “oh no a guy just shot another guy ban the guns”. And you can only say that so many times before moving on to the next news item.
1 oshnyve 2017-12-08
I mean it honestly kind of looks like the reason is that he really wanted to shoot a bunch of people, and outside of the division of precrime there's not that much you can do or say about that
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
I mean, you could make it harder to get guns, or even just harder to get guns that fire with near-automatic speed.
But Americans don't care until it's their own family and friends getting gunned down.
1 illbenicethistime69 2017-12-08
it’s simple to change guns from semi to full auto. guns last forever- you can still shoot guns from the civil war.
regulation and restriction only works for people who follow laws. people who are gonna kill 60 people will find a way to get their hands on weapons regardless of their legality.
we have a mental illness problem in the US with mass shootings as one of its symptoms. take away guns magically with the snap of your fingers and it’ll be cars and knives or some other form of violence.
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
I would love to see somebody try to knife 59 people to death. Seriously, good fucking luck.
1 illbenicethistime69 2017-12-08
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/16/nice-terror-attack-truck-driver-who-killed-84-named----the-news/ armed with a truck and knives.
but it’s impossible no?
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
> knife
> truck and knives.
I bet I could kill 15 million people with a nuclear bomb and a knife.
1 illbenicethistime69 2017-12-08
are you just being purposefully being obtuse? i said vehicle and knives are examples of weapons. there are many things people can be killed with. i then highlighted an example how someone killed 80 people with a truck.
do more people have a access to trucks or nuclear weapons?
should me make trucks illegal?
i’m sorry that you get triggered when someone brings up points that you can’t refute without using fake examples (i could kill people with nukes).
why not argue real life examples like the one in Nice. more people were killed without guns in that attack then the vegas or orlando shootings that used guns. should we ban trucks? or maybe, just maybe, back to my original point, there’s a mental health issue.
you dumb fuck.
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
Trucks are actually useful for like, delivering stuff. Semi-automatic weapons are pointless except for murdering people.
I dunno why ameritards find this a difficult concept to grasp.
Yeah, except you don't have a healthcare system, either. So good luck with that.
1 illbenicethistime69 2017-12-08
yep no one uses guns or rifles for oh i don’t know hunting?
weapons are why america broke from from england and isn’t some piece of shit country that gets invaded and ran over like wherever the fuck you’re from. where is that by the way id love to know?
yeah we totally don’t have healthcare. besides medcare and medicaid. oh and if you don’t qualify for those it’s because you’re employed and have it through work. but yes we definitely don’t have health insurance. and it’s definitely not superior to yours. waiting in line for 4 hours to see a doc sounds awesome.
seriously what country are you from?
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
If you hunt with a semiautomatic weapon, you're a fucking retard and a terrible hunter.
One where hookworm is no longer a problem.
1 illbenicethistime69 2017-12-08
so weapons can be used for hunting i’m glad you’re not so autistic that you can’t understand that.
so again what country are you from?
1 ConcentratedHCL_1 2017-12-08
We could start melting down firearms
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Nobody wants to admit that it might be related to gambling and that gambling needs to be regulated. It's not a culture wars issue, so nobody gives a shit. They just ignore it and go back to fighting over who has to make the gay wedding cake.
1 SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-12-08
He spent way too much time preparing for it to have been a spur-of-the-moment decision.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Yeah. I'm not saying he just had one bad day in the casino and flipped out. But gambling was a very important part of this guy's life and the fact that nobody is interested in whether or not that was part of his motive is telling.
1 SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-12-08
I don't really understand how gambling could motivate murder beyond, “I gambled away all I had, might as well take someone with me.”
1 glmox 2017-12-08
it's not the 90s anymore, no one really cares about spree shooters unless theres an angle to sell. just getting the high score isnt enough for proper recognition unfortunately
1 GeauxHouston22 2017-12-08
dey was gud boys, koresh dindu nuffin
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
Yes u/chrisman01, please explain the line between innocent pious man and raving lunatic cult leader.
1 chrisman01 2017-12-08
There's this right that people have in the United States called "trial by jury".
It doesn't matter how insane those people were. They should have gone to court, not been trapped in a burning building against heavy armor and no chance of a trial.
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
One you waive your right to a trial when you start firing your illegally amassed weapons on federal agents.
Two, because fuck you that's why.
1 hurrff 2017-12-08
lmao
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
Right? Of all the dumb shit I've read today...
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
We are mostly liberal here we just tolerate everyone that doesn't dox or threaten real harm, which is really a classic liberalism paradise
I can understand why trumptards from the_daddy would need to rationalize us as the dangerous left
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
The account of the fbi agent who fired first is not credible. The behavioral consultants advice on dealing with Koresh (who was not hostile) was completely ignored by the fbi. They basically stormed a compound when it could've been resolved by negotiation, as koresh indicated he was willing to negiotiate.
They also left the 2 bodies of the young men they killed hanging over the fence for like 3 days, in full view of their families.
The fbi and Janet Reno fucked up immensely in Waco.
1 southmouthneutral 2017-12-08
In what world do religious zealots who modify stock piles of rifles to full-auto capacity have any interest in a peaceful negotiation? They knew of the raid and armed themselves accordingly instead of surrendering immediately. The gubment did some stupid shit but holy fuck, it was like 90% the fault of the wacko child molesters.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Oh god you're so misinformed. Can you please listen to this: https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
Even if you don't enjoy the humor, they do their research (sourced btw). Waco was a fucking travesty. Plus it's just kinda a good thing to be suspicious of the narrative favorable to the powerful force that "won"
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
thread they tried to brigade me from
brigading from within /r/drama
???
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
can't wait till we round up the rest of you hillbilly inbreds
1 SuperbOwl1252018 2017-12-08
The Nazi left reveals its true colors
1 StingAuer 2017-12-08
Oxymoron.
1 glmox 2017-12-08
take a bigger dose next time jethro, youre still slurring through your opiod haze
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1 buttermyself 2017-12-08
This but unironically
1 scatmunchies 2017-12-08
FREE 👏 FENTANYL 👏 FOR 👏 RURAL 👏 AMERICA
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
The elimination of the "white" race is inevitable. In fact, race is, for the most part, a nonsense construct, but the "white" race even moreso. It is clear that there is no explicit, accurate definition for being "white", the phantasm of "race purity" is far from reality and is grounded in nothing but the fantasies of people who think that those that they do not consider "white" are "taking muh womenz" (read: insecurity, as well as misogyny).
In present-day society, the identity of Western countries and their inhabitants are not pegged down by race, but by nationality—additionally, you can now see people mixing their origins with their current nationality, an example being so called "hyphenated Americans". These people range from someone holding some aspects of their culture dear to them, to someone who calls themselves so because "my [insert near ancestor] was from [insert foreign country]". Contrary to the European failure at integrating immigrants, the United States has done well with the integration of immigrants, and miscegenation of races will thus be unavoidable, and the delusion of "white purity" will become extinct.
Even in Europe, although they may not have succeeded in integrating their immigrants well (leading to the formation of ghettos such as the ones in Tower Hamlets, London), there will always be a few immigrants who manage to escape from the grasps of these ghettos and integrate within larger society. This leads to race-mixing as well, albeit to a lesser extent, but every bit counts, and every bit helps. Why? When two people of color have children, you can usually see distinct features from both parents present in the child. When a person of color and a white person have a child, the most commonly (and usually only) feature passed down from the white parent is lighter skin (cumskin). This is due to the fact that the genes that lead to the expression of so-called "white" phenotypes, are for the most part, recessive. This facilitates the elimination of "white" features in society.
Furthermore, children who have blood from both a person of color and a white person are forsaken by those who fantasize about the white race being preserved, even though they carry recessive genes from their white parent, genes that could eventually be expressed again. This will also contribute to the demise of the so-called "white race".
Eventually, no person who considers themselves "white" will have so-called "pure" genes. Hence, the white race will have been eliminated by the standards set by the race purists themselves, having led themselves to their own demise.
1 Bbcloved 2017-12-08
White race and their cum colored skins need to be eliminated. Thankfully fertile white girls have been only helping accelerate this process as they choose and breed with the superior and bigger dicked black men over white men more and more.
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
I wholeheartedly agree.
1 stevemisor 2017-12-08
WTF I love people who resist arrest now, as long as they aren't darker than may khakis
1 cruelandusual 2017-12-08
They set the fire themselves, you retard. It was mass-suicide by cop.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Ehhh that was probably due to the literal powderkeg the fbi created with their use of now outlawed teargas canisters which they threw in a compound with limited ventilation, full of women and children, that was being routinely fired upon by their agents outside.
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
If this isn't ironic it might be the dumbest post in this thread .
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Completely unironic friendo
I can't imagine being so retarded you're fine with the tactics used at Waco
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
Koresh could have pulled his dick out of the children and surrendered. That's where blame lies.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
wow. That's a hot take man
All the davidians were free to leave at any time, in fact some did. The ones that remained chose to stay. Koresh was a crazy ass cult leader who abused kids, but he was not aggressive nor did he provoke the atf or fbi to violence.
The attack had nothing to do with the sex abuse (which is prevalent in literally in every religious org, particualrly the small ones) btw. It was suspected weapons violations, i.e. owning illegal guns.
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
I know that.
But they were kid fuckers and none of it would have happened if they had stopped shooting at agents executing a warrant.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
The agents shot first brah. It's a national travesty but if you're cool with aggregious abuse of power you do you honey
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
The world is better off without a bunch of gun hoarding child rapists jerking themselves off over a prophet. Inshallah the scientologists will be next.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Firstly, only Koresh molested the kids. The other people were just religious nutbags.
And sure, PRAISE AMERIKA I love it when the govt can murder without consequence! Particularly since we have such a rational and honorable POTUS nowadays
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
My heart bleeds for those poor innocent people who just let Koresh molest their kids but didn't directly take part in it.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Yeaaa HAIL AMERIKA let's kill all weirdos yeeeaaa
what are you a fucking tankie?
1 GandalftheChromatic 2017-12-08
Literally unironically this
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Lol cool man
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Joining a cult and letting the leader molest your kids is not on the same level as Weird Al Jankovic.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
You literally have no idea what you're talking about
It's pretty sad tho how ready you are to brush off 80+ American lives because they worshipped differently than you.
P.s. abuse happens everywhere it's not unique to the davidians princess
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Listen to this please
https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
So all those kids just chose to stay there and burn themselves alive? They're old enough to consent to that?
Thanks for pointing that out. For a second there I was thinking it was wrong to rape kids and we should put a stop to it. But I guess it's just one of those things that happens and we should learn to accept it.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Their mothers chose to stay, and they burned because the fucking FBI used combustible tear gas in enclosed spaces after cutting off electricity for days
Koresh molested children, but that literally has nothing to do with the abuse of state power that occurred at Waco. They were investigating suspected weapons charges.
Remarking on the obvious sex abuse (all religions have it) is postmortem rationale to excuse the fucking government to murder it's own citizens. They were notr aggressive, they were not hostile. We are supposed to be the "land of the free" and yet 80 plus citizens were murdered when it could've been easily solved with negotiation.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
We had one of those "not aggressive, not hostile" cults in Oregon. They just wanted to be left alone. Then they used biological weapons to try to assassinate their enemies. There were 751 victims but whatever, they should have just accepted that their neighbors were a little quirky.
1 WikiTextBot 2017-12-08
1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack
The 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack was the food poisoning of 751 individuals in The Dalles, Oregon, through the deliberate contamination of salad bars at ten local restaurants with Salmonella. A leading group of followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later known as Osho) had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections. The incident was the first and single largest bioterrorist attack in United States history. The attack is one of only two confirmed terrorist uses of biological weapons to harm humans since 1945, the other being the 2001 anthrax attacks across the USA.
Having previously gained political control of Antelope, Oregon, Rajneesh's followers, who were based in nearby Rajneeshpuram, sought election to two of the three seats on the Wasco County Circuit Court that were up for election in November 1984.
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1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
I'm not arguing with you listen to the podcast or don't, I'm sorry the government and chains of command aren't infallible
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
You're honestly a fucking retard
Please listen : https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
And I'm sorry your daddy government turns out to be made of a bunch of fucking fallible idiots like the rest of every group of humans ever
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Lol having to bring up an entirely different situation to keep your USA worship pure
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Bb I already 😍 u so you don't gotta be hitting on me so hard.
But seriously, this shit is all the same. Jonestown. Aum Shinrykyo. The Rajneeshes. They all just wanted to be left alone. If not letting your neighbors murder you through chemical or biological terrorist attacks is "keeping my USA worship pure", then I'm 1000% guilty of keeping my USA worship pure.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Wow so you obviously have no idea abou t the branch davidians. The people in town actually liked them, and found them relatable. They would come and shoot on the range with people from Waco, who unamiously said they were polite, welcoming, and friendly
The branch davidians were no more monstrous than a local Catholic church (for abuse) or a local gun club.
Have you never met rural people? I have to ask because you seem super comfortable with "othering" weirdo Christians
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
A relative of mine did business with the Rajneeshees and found them relatable. It turned out they were terrorists plotting to mass murder us.
So we should be equally brutal against Catholic pedophiles. You'll get no argument from me there.
I've spent the last half year trying to explain to leftist retards that Christians are not the monsters that Seth MacFarlane would make them out to be. But when it comes to pedophiles, those are Satanists. You burn them alive or you stake them down in a bog to drown, but you don't make excuses for them.
That's true. Aum Shinryko didn't all kill themselves.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
What will it take to get you to listen to this: https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
Will you or no? They're at least entertaining if want to cling to the state narrative if dangerous cultists
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
I watched it as it happened. I don't need a bunch of fucking millenial revisionists to tardsplain it to me. What's next? Is some podcast going to tell me that Saddam Hussein was just misunderstood?
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Oh so you watched it on newly consecrated 24 hour news cycle that is SO known for objective truth
The media narrative was part of the problem honestly. Please listen to that podcast just to get a different perspective
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
You literally have no idea about the branch davidians. They were peaceful fucking weird isolated Christians. They were not dabgerou s to themselves or others
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2017-12-08
It's ok he was only peacefully raping children
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-12-08
They should use Waco tactics against /r/the_donald. The years of built up cheeto dust and obesity would make a fire you could see from space.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
See now THIS i can get behind. They wouldnt even need to use highly combustible tear gas in an enclosed environment! And the fat deposits would inevitably start a grease fire
Wtf I love govt sponsored bbqs now
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-08
A lot of lessons were learned from the Waco incident.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Well that why they were so careful T ruby ridge, and the ACTUAL violent extremists
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
As a top mod, and a veteran, what do you think about Waco?
Have you heard this take: https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-08
Waco was a screw up from the very beginning. They drove into a small Texas town in their govt sedans and wore suits. Their presence tipped off the cult right away.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Yeah, it was aggregiously mishandled from the outset because of lack of training, and janet Reno trying to flex
I m glad a top mod can acknowledge this. Maybe we should have a Waco respek day every year to pay respects because our degenerate govt will never admit their wrong doing, inshallah
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-08
Respect to who? The cult? Innocent people died but nobody wants to give a day of remembrance to a cult.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Probably to the American citizens that lost their lives, particularly the women and children. It's a national embarrassment that we should acknowledge to prevent becoming state worshipping idiots. A truly "free" country would allow and appreciate showing respect to a group of citizens that were unjustly murdered by the state
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-08
Nobody likes cults
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2017-12-08
/u/ladyvetinari confirmed supporter of child rape
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
I definitely think the govt should mow down everyone accused a molestation AND their families
Beacaue fuck the legal system 🤣🤘
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2017-12-08
How dsre the government not wait until they are finished raping children to arrest them
To stop a child rape before completion leaves the good rapist with blue balls which is cruel and unusual punishment.
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
Nice Prax.
BTW, any hot takes on what should happen to the dark ones that resist arrest?
1 scatmunchies 2017-12-08
FREE 👏 FENTANYL 👏 FOR 👏 RURAL 👏 AMERICA
1 icefourthirtythree 2017-12-08
Tell that to many of the people who have been imprisoned/are being imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-12-08
They could have, you know, left the burning building.
I mean why wouldn't that? Oh yeah, it's cause they set themselves on fire. Something only the most mentally stable people do.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Please explain the line between due process/investigation intensity suiting the charge in question and the government launching a literal seige on a peaceful for the most part law abiding sect of American citizens (sure cult, but that's irrelevant)
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
It was tho unironically
1 TrailerParkBride 2017-12-08
The mental INSTABILITY of a person is DIRECTLY proportional to the NUMBER of random words they CAPITALIZE in a GIVEN sentence. But you already know that, don't you /u/kekislaw?
1 Matues49 2017-12-08
Are you including based patriot Lt. Col Anthony Shaffer as a 'Conspiracy Nut'? Maybe you should read up on his whistle blowing about "Operation Able Danger", in which a government task group was TRACKING SEVERAL OF THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS FOR MONTHS before the attack. They were just waiting for approval from the justice department to apprehend them before they attacked. Guess what happened, the Government flatly REFUSED to accept their intelligence. They even refused to meet with Col
Schaffer in person, they sent lawyers to repel him. fact. the government FAILED to protect us that day. Reasons for the failure, UNKNOWN. That is NOT 'Conspiracy Nut' talk. We NEEEED to know how and why and who.
We shouldn't be focusing on lunatic nut jobs' and their holgrams, space lasers and mini nuke theories. Those are likely disinformation campaigns anyway, to get ppl like you to dismiss it all as crack pot shit. We should instead be focusing on "intelligence failures", and why they happened. Was there an intentional disregard?? Why were these idiots NOT fired after their failures, that resulted in the deaths of over 3000 AMERICANS? Did you know that many of them were promoted?
I wouldn't put it past the deep state to LET it happen in order bring about certain policy shifts. You think that type of treachery is beneath these pedos and crooks?
Ever heard of "Project for a New American Century" or "PNAC"? The Neo-Cons and Neo-Liberal Power Brokers wrote of a need for a 'NEW PEARL HARBOR' in order to get the public opinion/policy shifts needed to increase our presence in the middle east. That was written MONTHS before 911. Look at the ppl who wrote it...ppl like Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney etc....
1 xjapxn 2017-12-08
I can also... proffer the overuse... of ellilpsis... as further evidence... of an unsound... mind.
1 SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-12-08
That trope began with the Unabomber, who wrote his manifesto like that because he was using a typewriter and couldn’t do italics.
1 TrailerParkBride 2017-12-08
Huh, til
1 wootfatigue 2017-12-08
I made a really cool Unabomber style shack in the woods but my mom made my dad tear it down after I built a fireplace inside it.
1 Mort_DeRire 2017-12-08
Unabomber facts are why I come here
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
Cheap ad hominem from an anonymous lemming? Check. No logical rebuttals? Check. Good luck, pal. Do not waste your time if all you bring are logical fallacies.
1 rentqt 2017-12-08
🤔🤔🤔🤔
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
Anything else? No shame in being an ignorant fool, not in this day and age. Being a lemming is a sickness..
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
McDonald's doesn't count as real work
1 TrailerParkBride 2017-12-08
I HOPE you get culturally ENRICHED by a BASED mudman REFUGEE.
TBH I thought that MY insult WAS pretty ORIGINAL. It's ALL good THOUGH because I don't waste any ENERGY believing that 9/11 is a DEEPstate JEW conspiracy. You talk about WASTING time, but I'm HAVING fun doing this and YOU seem to be FULL of ANGER.
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
Sigh.. Aristotelian Logic isn't taught in schools anymore...you ppl can't debate to save your life...
God help this country. God protect Trump.
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
Please KEEP YOURSELF SAFE because THEY'RE AFTER YOU.
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
....sigh...another mental midget....pretending that every independent thinker is a paranoid schizophrenic.
1 ClueKiss 2017-12-08
jet fuel CAN'T melt STEEL memes!
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
If you want logic and argumentation you're in the wrong place chief
1 Kekislaw 2017-12-08
....because you admit that you are intellectually deficient and therefore incapable of having a reasoned discourse? Why is this, of all places, the wrong place? The_donald is amazing. Just what kind of bullshit excuse are you trying to articulate?
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
/u/FootballJedi /u/TheSamsonOption
I like how you use red pill as a synonym for retardation.
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
/u/FootballJedi's family tree has no limbs
1 ChipChippersonAMA 2017-12-08
/u/FootballJedi
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
/u/Footballjedi unironically believes that Las Vegas shooting was an Isis weapons deal gone bad conspiracy theory. What a laughable retard
1 FootballJedi 2017-12-08
Hahahaha I never even said that you have no idea what I think about Vegas, and everyone who isn’t a gulable sheep knows the story is a lie. 🤣👍 LOSER!!!
1 buttermyself 2017-12-08
What is it like to be this retarded?
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
I imagine you don't think much since it seems your father is also your uncle
1 FootballJedi 2017-12-08
Anyone who reads this greasy little weasel's post history would understand why I am not even going to bother lol bye now loser
1 JumbledFun 2017-12-08
How large is your forehead? I assume pretty big from all the alcohol your white trash mom put down during pregnancy
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
/u/FootballJedi /u/TheSamsonOption
I like how you use red pill as a synonym for retardation.
1 Butch_Patterson 2017-12-08
Wait, doesn't everybody?
I thought it was all a big joke, you know, like mayocide or bussy. Those people are serious? Oh god that's not funny anymore. That's frightening.
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-08
The ATF did nothing wrong.
1 SmurfPrivilege 2017-12-08
Youtube link is to some blogger (David Icke) rambling in his basement. Apparently you have to do your own search for this bombshell BBC video. I guess putting the pieces of the puzzle together on your own is part of the fun of being a conspiracy nut.
1 wtfuxlolwut 2017-12-08
David icke is p famous amongst conspiracy folk he's the source of the shape shifting lizard people dude has been a lolcow since the 90s
1 imaginarycreatures 2017-12-08
He's also pretty much the living embodiment of Poes Law.
1 Rith2 2017-12-08
When the pastor asks you to spread gasoline all over the place but it’s ok because retards years later will believe you dindu nuffin
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Lol wow
The govt dindu nuffin, nope. And luckily the victims were crazy cultbags who chose to live apart from society, so unrelatable smh.
1 Rith2 2017-12-08
Shouldn’t have molested those girls I guess🤷♀️
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
...which wasn't known at the time of the raid 🤔🤔🤔🤔
1 Rith2 2017-12-08
Ummm yes it was 🌽
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Lol what were the suspected charges? I had no idea suspected weapons charges = child molestation.
Does the atf normally aggressively confront people suspected of child abuse?
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
So child services should have tried to assault the compound on their own?
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Maybe a literal assault was never called for or necessary 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Given that they killed a bunch of cops and then burned themselves alive, I think it's pretty clear that they needed more than just a polite suggestion to take some parenting classes.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
You really don't know what you're talking about.
Please listen to this : https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
And lol right it's WAY better just murder all the kids with their parents
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Sure. Nobody could have ever guessed. It could have just been one of those nice cults where the leader respects everyone's boundaries and is a perfect gentleman.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Ok sure, and every group of American citizens that don't conform should get no due process or consideration after they're slaughtered by government agencies
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
O like Catholicism? Like every Christian youth camp? Would you be as dismissive if one of their e establishments were literally violently seiged and over 80 people died?
1 Redactor0 2017-12-08
Yes I would be. I don't give a shit what religion they claim to be. If they fuck kids they deserve to burn.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
Literally only Koresh abused kids. Everyone else in that compound was a true believer. They were regular people. They were well liked in the town, rhey were friendly.
And when the FBI attacked they killed tons of kids and babies.
1 shallowm 2017-12-08
/u/FootballJedi /u/TheSamsonOption
I like how you use red pill as a synonym for retardation.
1 LadyVetinari 2017-12-08
True take on waco: https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode133-waco
For any American that's interested in the truth