every time I get summoned here, I have a quick look around and find that this place gets worse and worse, it's like a black hole which mangles everything that gets sucked into it. src
How many shootings /bombings are there in the USA every day again?
I like how she conflates random shootings and coordinated terrorists attacks using explosives. It's like asking someone how many times a day they cuss/stab someone.
"More than a dozen men hurled firebombs at a synagogue in Gothenburg in southern Sweden hours after locals marched in the city against the United States’ recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital."
"'We have announced the intifada from Malmö. We want our freedom back, and we will shoot the Jews,' some in the rally of 200 demonstrators shouted, according to the public radio station. Intifada is the Arabic-language word for a violent uprising."
Waco, ISIS, World Trade Center x 2, Ariana Grande concert. Those are just the ones off that pop off the top of my head. Damn, dude. What world do you live in? I wanna go there.
Out of how many billion though? And even when they are successful it's still pretty unimpressive consider their stated aim is to destroy civilization. Shit, we actively encourage people that dumb to drive and vote. I'm much more worried about that.
I think billions are retarded in this aspect, sure. What does it even mean to be an extremist? If you truly believe in your given religion then surely all it takes for you to be an 'extremist' willing to harm others is a good salesman.
And what's the difference in being a moderate and harming people at the ballot box anyway. It's just less Michael Bay.
That was a ton of people at an Arianna Grande concert. Are the people in Manchester just that bored? Do they not ever have live music? I'm so confused.
Just to be clear, neither her not mine comment were referencing the attack as being a bombing. I'm just showcasing at her conflating two wildly different situations.
This. But we can't get rid of guns, because of big corporations and the fact that the US, Israel, and Saudi ARabia are gearing up for war. THe US no longer needs middle east oil. Israel wants to expand it's borders and Saudi Arabia needs more land as well. Thus these two counties will wipe out the remaining ones. THe cost? Lower class american and middle class american lives in their blind patriotism and Christian religious fervor. I'm sure hollywood will make some good movies and I am sure lauren southern and her ilk will justify these sacrifices.
Now as the world progresses religion is becoming more and more obsolete.
Nah, the Norks only have firecrackers, and a very small number of them, to boot. Russia has a shitload of nukes, big n' dirty enough to glass entire regions.
THe problem with nukes is the very thing that makes it worth going to war becomes useless. The land becomes unusable. So it could be worth it if at some point they want that land. It kind of depends on how long it would be irradiated.
Guys, guys, terrorism isn't political!! White Christians are the biggest terrorists in the world, ever!! I love eating out my grandpas asshole!
I can see it now. You getting a train pulled on your obese holes, getting forcefully with Arab sperm and as you take another load in your anus, you think about how much your rape is better then a small town bake sale by some boring christian church in bumfuck America.
Pathetic. Remind me again how Sweden is so safe? Or how their isn't any violence? Because this is extreme, you have people chanting for the death of Jews firebombing synagogues with children inside.
We should definitely start a program to highlight the existence and contributions of local Jews. Maybe get a big list of all these people so we can show our support!
Because there are tons of peaceful protests that don't end with violence. This is the outlier. And personally I'm fed up with the constant lies being spouted by people on Reddit about Sweden America, where they try to paint Sweden Charlottesville as a war zone under Sharia law Nazi rule, while it's in reality a safe country with good economic development. Of course this is an issue, and antisemitism fascism among foreign groups the alt-right is an issue that we are aware of, but the violence isn't a common issue.
If you have to constantly convince people from other countries that you're not in the middle of a rapocalypse, you should probably rethink at least some aspects of your society.
Yo turn this argument around on the U.S. for a second. "if you have to constantly convince people from other countries that you're not in the middle of a gunpocalypse..."
Maybe people inside the country should understand and decide politics, not some retards trying to make it about their own country. "We can't have guns, we don't want to end up like the U.S.!!!"
Exactly. I'm sick of Americans deflecting their problems with racism by bringing up their absurd fantasy of Europe as some righteous punishment for not being xenophobic enough or having a big enough ocean seperating them from the real world.
I believe the point should be “Fuck the international media frenzy of sensationalizing the problems of one country for the entertainment of another and for their own profits.”
Gunwin's Law: the longer a thread goes on about a problem in a non-American country, the probability that a problem in America will be brought up approaches 1.
I'm not bringing up a problem in America. I'm pointing out that if Europeans used the logic OP's using, all these patriots would be flipping their tendies
american niggers are in a gunpocalypse, but thats just the groids and its nothing new for them. gun crime on the white side of the country is on par with the netherlands
But all of you living outside of my country who have never been here should listen to some facts from swedes too
/u/space_whalez Swedish people talk about what a shithole immigration is turning Sweden into, too. Just not in your leftist hugboxes like /r/europe because they get banned immediately.
Of course, I'm sure that your argument against those people is just that they're Nazis.
/u/Cahootie You're a bad ass. I'm super impressed that grenade attacks aren't a big deal to you. You must have gone through some shit if a grenade doesn't scare you anymore.
Grenade attacks have killed zero people this year, and only injured a few. There is no logical reason for me to fear grenade attacks since I'm neither a criminal nor a policeman, which are the only two targets prone to attacks like that.
There is a difference between being afraid of it and feeling compassion for the victims.
Since this is the source that everybody used when criticising Sweden I'll use it aswell. In 2017 zero people died from grenade attacks. In 2016 three people died, including two who were building their own bomb when it exploded. Deaths from these two year combined is less than the expected number of autoerotic asphyxiation deaths per year in a country of Sweden's size. I'm not really afraid of autoerotic asphyxiayion, so why would I be afraid of grenades?
Well that's just crazy talk. You must always be afraid of autoerotic asphyxiation otherwise the complacency makes you think you can do it without practicing the buddy system.
These attacks will become more and more common as the Muslim population increases (as it will, since Muslim countries produce refugees that you are obligated to accept, and they reproduce faster than native Swedes). Eventually, Islam will be the majority religion, and all of your Jewish population will be killed or exiled. Why are you okay with this?
Are you this fucking retarded? With Sweden accepting all these Muslims and Muslims reproducing faster than swedes the only conclusion to come to is that Islam will be majority religion in Swedistan.
Pew Research Center has estimated that if Sweden maintains the level of immigration that we had during the peak of refugee arrival, and nothing changed all the way until 2050, the number of Muslims could reach 30%. The numbers are already way down, so that's not gonna happen.
Somehow the government, foreign media, people living in the country, OECD and other independent organizations are all lying to us, except for the bastion of truth and righteousness that is American right-wing media.
I hate to end up like this in an argument, but you should head back to Byzantium, nothing's pointing toward Islam becoming a majority religion. - Rhekotis Cleomenes, Alexandria, 639 AD
guns generally exist in some capacity in a normal society so the potential technically exists for them to be misused, its a risk we take in order to be able to use them- much like a car
meanwhile where tf are people even getting grenades and why are they just floating around
also its because youre too soft on illegal immigrants and refugees that dont care about your law because they lived in a war torn third world country beforehand
theyll overrun your country and then all youll have is rape and grenades
The grenades come from the Balkans, which is within Schengen, and are a remnant of the Balkan war, so the prevalence of grenades has nothing to do with the recent immigration.
And don't pull the rape shit on me, Sweden doesn't have a higher number of rapes than other equivalent countries, and the grenade this is over. There has been one injury and zero casualties so far this year, but yeah I should definitely be so scared of grenade attacks.
The grenades come from the Balkans, which is within Schengen, and are a remnant of the Balkan war, so the prevalence of grenades has nothing to do with the recent immigration.
i mean border control would probably stop grenade smuggling at least a little
And don't pull the rape shit on me
its not me you have to be worried about buddy
Sweden doesn't have a higher number of rapes than other equivalent countries
cant lie about this anymore sorry
its epidemic and unacceptable, approx 85% of rapes are by non white illegal immigrants and you just accept it because it doesnt affect you personally and you dont want to look racist
its actually more racist to have such low expectations of them that you think its in their nature, these are individuals taking advantage of your misguided altruism not victims that cant control themselves
dont worry though you can just tell women not to go outside by themselves instead of owning up to and fixing your mistakes amirite
i mean border control would probably stop grenade smuggling at least a little
That would be like having border controls between the different states in the US. We have abolished internal border controls for a reason.
its not me you have to be worried about buddy
No, but you're the one who has no idea what the situation in Sweden is actually like regarding rape, you've seen a number and drew conclusions from that without as much as looking at the context.
And can you please provide some sources for your claim of 85%? For some reason nobody ever has sources when they trash talk Sweden, I wonder why that is. Could is possibly be because they're exaggerating and straight up lying in order to double down on their preexisting opinions?
We have abolished internal border controls for a reason.
and hows that working out with all the refugees and grenades
No, but you're the one who has no idea what the situation in Sweden is actually like regarding rape
youre in denial, just because the media in sweden manages to convince you that nothings happening the news still reaches us
we see all the pedo refugees snuggling up with 10 year olds having their picture taken, we see reporters being beaten up ion the street and told they cant enter certain areas
we see how many people get gang raped and covered in jizz in the street
you need to fix your shit you cant just pretend its cool forever
you've seen a number and drew conclusions from that without as much as looking at the context.
nope i read articles from the region because im interested in how much a country can get raped before they defend themselves
its morbidly fascinating and will be a great case study for what not to do once youre overrun with illegals and turn into a third world country in a couple decades
And can you please provide some sources for your claim of 85%? For some reason nobody ever has sources when they trash talk Sweden, I wonder why that is.
they probably think its not worth making examples of something so blatant and easily searchable
Could is possibly be because they're exaggerating and straight up lying in order to double down on their preexisting opinions?
could it possibly be that youre in denial? you dont want to admit that largely foreign immigrants are committing crimes and raping people en masse in your country because youd rather let it happen than be called racist
thats cowardly af take your country back or at least establish some fucking ground rules
and hows that working out with all the refugees and grenades
Ah yes, all those poor refugees from within the Schengen area. The tragic Finnish people begging for scraps outside of supermarkets, the desperate Germans who risked everything they have to get to Sweden, how could I forget about those.
I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I ask everybody here: Why are non-fatal grenade attacks inherently worse than firearm attacks, stabbings or vehicles speeding down pedestrian streets? Grenades killed zero people this year, so why are they worse that other attacks? Why does having 10 incidents of non-fatal attacks suddenly make Sweden unsafe, when we have a lower level of crime in general?
And now you're back to making sweeping statements without providing any source, completely ignoring the point I was making about how Sweden's definition of rape is different than other countries. Tell me where you saw people getting gang raped and covered in jizz in the street in Sweden. Tell me where you saw reporters being beaten up in the street and told they can't enter certain areas (I know what you're referring to, but that's a massive misrepresentation of what actually happened), and most of all tell me about your understanding of the locals' view on foreign journalists making deceitful reports from these areas.
And it's pretty ironic that your sources are one opinion piece; one article from fairly openly antisemitic Gatestone Institute written by Ingrid Carlqvist, possibly Sweden's most famous antisemite who suggests that they should cooperate with self-proclaimed neo-nazis and questioned "why it was so sensitive to discuss the evidence surrounding the Holocaust"; one article which clearly supports my statement and not yours regarding the rape statistics in Sweden (which is also from 2012, before the immigration started); one article by Paul Joseph Watson on InfoWars which is rehosted on ZeroHedge; one article about one incident of rape with the quote "There's been total outrage about this case in Sweden" and yet you say that we Swedes are just letting it happen; and a Daily Mail article about a Breitbart article about one person retelling her story of working as a lawyer. I wouldn't call those proper evidence about neither the general situation nor the numbers you claim.
My question was very simple, where did you get your claim that 85% of rapes were committed by illegal immigrants? The Gatestone Institute mentions a book which supposedly says that 85% of all of those sentenced in a certain count to over 2 years in prison were either first or second generation immigrants. What it neglects to mention is that the number of convicted rapists they counted was 27. So not only was there no mention of illegal immigrants and neither was the number about the general prevalence of immigrants in the crime statistics, the number of cases the author looked as is way too small to provide statistics about the entire country.
But what is the most pathetic about most people who make these claims is that they also claim that it's hushed down and nobody talks about it. Just read those articles and their sources. There's an article where the prime minister condones the actions. There's articles about the public's outrage. And yet somehow people say that we're all in on the conspiracy and turn a blind eye to it.
You're not making a good case for yourself, all you're doing is rehashing the exact same arguments from questionable sources that I've already said won't convince me of the situation being any different from my current perception. You've gotta try harder instead of just insulting me.
Grenades get smuggled in from the Balklands. Those people are fucking savages, Muslims or Christian.
It's difficult and expensive to get weapons in Sweden, thus they are generally only used by organized crime. It seems that the channels they're using to acquire guns have taken to throwing in grenades, often as a free bonus.
But while grenades are colorful and exciting, actual violent crime rates are pretty fucking low - but feels over reals, right?
It's difficult and expensive to get weapons in Sweden, thus they are generally only used by organized crime.
i live in australia and its the same, but we put all our illegal immigrants on an island offshore and for some reason we dont seem to have these same problems
Jews are naturally uncomfortable in any country that is remotely ethnically homogeneous. Blanda upping Sweden makes them feel better because it cuts down on Sven's power to kick them out. However, this is an instinctual move, and not 11-dimensional dreidel spinning, so they literally don't see the consequences until it's too late.
Fortunately, Jews have several homelands to flee to, like Israel and Florida.
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1 SnapshillBot 2017-12-10
every time I get summoned here, I have a quick look around and find that this place gets worse and worse, it's like a black hole which mangles everything that gets sucked into it. src
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1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2017-12-10
I like how she conflates random shootings and coordinated terrorists attacks using explosives. It's like asking someone how many times a day they cuss/stab someone.
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
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lol
1 CaptainNeeMoNoy 2017-12-10
"More than a dozen men hurled firebombs at a synagogue in Gothenburg in southern Sweden hours after locals marched in the city against the United States’ recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital."
"'We have announced the intifada from Malmö. We want our freedom back, and we will shoot the Jews,' some in the rally of 200 demonstrators shouted, according to the public radio station. Intifada is the Arabic-language word for a violent uprising."
Clearly just a few bad eggs.
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
You're getting your canned responses mixed up, Trump bot
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
You don't think the Arabs are an excitable bunch with just a tinge of jew hate going on?
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
Sure, but religious yokels of all kinds are thankfully typically too stupid to obtain explosives and be called 'organized'.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
Waco, ISIS, World Trade Center x 2, Ariana Grande concert. Those are just the ones off that pop off the top of my head. Damn, dude. What world do you live in? I wanna go there.
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
Out of how many billion though? And even when they are successful it's still pretty unimpressive consider their stated aim is to destroy civilization. Shit, we actively encourage people that dumb to drive and vote. I'm much more worried about that.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
Billion? you think 1/7th of the world's population are religious extremists?
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
I think billions are retarded in this aspect, sure. What does it even mean to be an extremist? If you truly believe in your given religion then surely all it takes for you to be an 'extremist' willing to harm others is a good salesman.
And what's the difference in being a moderate and harming people at the ballot box anyway. It's just less Michael Bay.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
This is some /r/atheism level nihilism. Got any good quotes?
1 RonJonsonMonsoon 2017-12-10
I am enlightened by my own smugtelligence? Idk you are putting me on the spot here
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
You must not be a professional quote maker.
1 ProgressiveFragility 2017-12-10
"wrist icicle, ride dick bicycle"
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
That was a ton of people at an Arianna Grande concert. Are the people in Manchester just that bored? Do they not ever have live music? I'm so confused.
1 ProgressiveFragility 2017-12-10
Free charity concert for the kids who had been murdered by Europe's immigration policies on a previous Ariana Grande concert.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
That makes sense. I thought that was the original one and got confused.
1 VidiotGamer 2017-12-10
Hmm... Muslims holding a rally to scream about how they want to kill Jews??
You're right, totally unbelievable.
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2017-12-10
Just to be clear, neither her not mine comment were referencing the attack as being a bombing. I'm just showcasing at her conflating two wildly different situations.
1 kane4life4ever 2017-12-10
Not really. If you look at the media's reaction to mass shootings vs terrorism it's biased and cowardly. Basically propaganda for the americans
1 Raving_Dave 2017-12-10
"We need to get rid of guns."
"We need to get rid of religion."
Dunno, seems pretty balanced.
1 imnotagayboy 2017-12-10
Religion doesnt kill people, people kill people. Guns do though.
"There Is No Future But What We Make Of Of It" - u/imnotagayboy
1 kane4life4ever 2017-12-10
This. But we can't get rid of guns, because of big corporations and the fact that the US, Israel, and Saudi ARabia are gearing up for war. THe US no longer needs middle east oil. Israel wants to expand it's borders and Saudi Arabia needs more land as well. Thus these two counties will wipe out the remaining ones. THe cost? Lower class american and middle class american lives in their blind patriotism and Christian religious fervor. I'm sure hollywood will make some good movies and I am sure lauren southern and her ilk will justify these sacrifices.
Now as the world progresses religion is becoming more and more obsolete.
1 Matues49 2017-12-10
Tbh we should just let Russia nuke 'em all and be done with it.
1 kane4life4ever 2017-12-10
I think you mean north korea. Especially since they have tech that is a threat to america now.
1 Matues49 2017-12-10
Nah, the Norks only have firecrackers, and a very small number of them, to boot. Russia has a shitload of nukes, big n' dirty enough to glass entire regions.
1 kane4life4ever 2017-12-10
THe problem with nukes is the very thing that makes it worth going to war becomes useless. The land becomes unusable. So it could be worth it if at some point they want that land. It kind of depends on how long it would be irradiated.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
because we don't want to.
:-D Suck a dick!
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-10
A-at least we're better than America!!
1 Raving_Dave 2017-12-10
Yes.
1 Neon_needles 2017-12-10
/u/Syphon8 you are fucking retarded.
I can see it now. You getting a train pulled on your obese holes, getting forcefully with Arab sperm and as you take another load in your anus, you think about how much your rape is better then a small town bake sale by some boring christian church in bumfuck America.
1 ThenTheGorursArrived 2017-12-10
Topical
1 clarkeff 2017-12-10
Sharia law now.
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-12-10
Signs were a mistake.
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
He can't reply at the moment because he's too busy masturbating to this.
1 Syphon8 2017-12-10
rofl
Reddit is full of such racist dumbfucks that this shit actually gets upvoted.
1 Neon_needles 2017-12-10
How is that racist?
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-10
/u/PinionTheMinion, I don't want to scare you anymore than you already are but antisemitism is everywhere
1 Neon_needles 2017-12-10
I can't believe people dislike jews... fucked up, imo.
They make bagels and rom-coms and crippling loans. Honestly, the drama against them is too much!! Support local Jews today!
1 fayeDragon 2017-12-10
We should give out TVs that play a loop of every Seinfeld episode to all the Muslim majority countries. Antisemitism would vanish in a month.
1 Singulaire 2017-12-10
What is the deal with suicide bombings?
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-10
We should definitely start a program to highlight the existence and contributions of local Jews. Maybe get a big list of all these people so we can show our support!
1 RetardedMannequin 2017-12-10
Nobody should hate Yids. Jewish women open their thighs like parting the red sea when they see big goy cock and a fat wallet in front of them.
Even a rich ackbar can have a chance at having consensual sex with a Jewish woman.
1 constantinople_2053 2017-12-10
how would I go about finding those jewish women? Do I lay a bagel under a box propped up with a stick, or do dollars work better?
1 RetardedMannequin 2017-12-10
They'll find you. The scent of high earning brings all khazar milkers to the yard.
1 102938475601 2017-12-10
Says antisemitism is everywhere, proceeds to only link to antisemitism in the United States.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2017-12-10
That is everywhere to me.
1 Rith2 2017-12-10
Everywhere that matters*
1 glmox 2017-12-10
why did you say "everywhere" twice
1 Butch_Patterson 2017-12-10
1 TherapyFortheRapy 2017-12-10
If you have to constantly convince people from other countries that you're not in the middle of a rapocalypse, you should probably rethink at least some aspects of your society.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
Yo turn this argument around on the U.S. for a second. "if you have to constantly convince people from other countries that you're not in the middle of a gunpocalypse..."
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
Point?
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
Maybe people inside the country should understand and decide politics, not some retards trying to make it about their own country. "We can't have guns, we don't want to end up like the U.S.!!!"
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
Or people constantly deflecting problems about their own country by bringing up problems in the US.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
Exactly. I'm sick of Americans deflecting their problems with racism by bringing up their absurd fantasy of Europe as some righteous punishment for not being xenophobic enough or having a big enough ocean seperating them from the real world.
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
No one is oppressed in the US. You can't control thought.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
What the fuck is this comment? Am I arguing with a chatbot?
1 Matues49 2017-12-10
Trumpbot. Close enough.
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
Too bad you're wrong.
1 Matues49 2017-12-10
Ah, so you're a non-Trump supporting 'tard? Like the great deeby manlet himself, Ben Shapiro.
Cool, that makes your current state... slightly less pathetic. I suppose.
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
Says one of Ed's groupies.
1 Matues49 2017-12-10
Legit kill yourself
1 SDIHTD 2017-12-10
You seem to be struggling to cope today, fam.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2017-12-10
good times! eh? lol
1 deere442 2017-12-10
you sound pretty bumblasted tbqh
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
We have a simple solution to problems with Islam: stop importing them.
1 102938475601 2017-12-10
I believe the point should be “Fuck the international media frenzy of sensationalizing the problems of one country for the entertainment of another and for their own profits.”
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-12-10
Gunwin's Law: the longer a thread goes on about a problem in a non-American country, the probability that a problem in America will be brought up approaches 1.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
I'm not bringing up a problem in America. I'm pointing out that if Europeans used the logic OP's using, all these patriots would be flipping their tendies
1 jaredschaffer27 2017-12-10
As long as those chickens come from American factory farms, I'm all for it.
1 Singulaire 2017-12-10
I do love me some farm-raised American factories.
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2017-12-10
Yea...that's a valid point too.
1 wolfsktaag 2017-12-10
american niggers are in a gunpocalypse, but thats just the groids and its nothing new for them. gun crime on the white side of the country is on par with the netherlands
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
But guns are cool and a natural part of American culture.
Muslims are shit and not a natural part of Swedish culture, or any good culture.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
True south park neutrals draw equivalences between any two slightly analogous positions.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
Uphold Trey Stone Thought!
1 kingofthehill5 2017-12-10
Lol these mayos they think living is sweden is bad, which is pretty much heaven compared to my country.
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
Which country?
1 kingofthehill5 2017-12-10
The country with the world's largest collection of poor.
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
India?
1 kingofthehill5 2017-12-10
Yes.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
if its any consolation the rape rate seems around the same
1 imnotagayboy 2017-12-10
Poo in the loo
"There Is No Future But What We Make Of Of It" - u/imnotagayboy
1 Pepperglue 2017-12-10
Geez u/Azymphia, I wonder why it is in those two areas.
1 Redactor0 2017-12-10
u/Azymphia So Sweden is like America, where you're safe as long as you don't go into certain neighborhoods in a few cities?
1 kermit_was_right 2017-12-10
Sort of, except still much safer.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-12-10
Ironically, overall crime has been falling in Malmö all through the migrant crisis.
1 Pepperglue 2017-12-10
At least something good came out of it.
1 Aerialcharles 2017-12-10
No shit if they keep killing eachother there will be no one left to commit crime.
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
/u/space_whalez Swedish people talk about what a shithole immigration is turning Sweden into, too. Just not in your leftist hugboxes like /r/europe because they get banned immediately.
Of course, I'm sure that your argument against those people is just that they're Nazis.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
/u/Cahootie You're a bad ass. I'm super impressed that grenade attacks aren't a big deal to you. You must have gone through some shit if a grenade doesn't scare you anymore.
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
Grenade attacks have killed zero people this year, and only injured a few. There is no logical reason for me to fear grenade attacks since I'm neither a criminal nor a policeman, which are the only two targets prone to attacks like that.
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
Nice to see that famous Swedish compassion at work here. "It doesn't affect me, so I'm free to reeeeeeeeee that it doesn't matter."
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
There is a difference between being afraid of it and feeling compassion for the victims.
Since this is the source that everybody used when criticising Sweden I'll use it aswell. In 2017 zero people died from grenade attacks. In 2016 three people died, including two who were building their own bomb when it exploded. Deaths from these two year combined is less than the expected number of autoerotic asphyxiation deaths per year in a country of Sweden's size. I'm not really afraid of autoerotic asphyxiayion, so why would I be afraid of grenades?
1 alphetasauce 2017-12-10
Well that's just crazy talk. You must always be afraid of autoerotic asphyxiation otherwise the complacency makes you think you can do it without practicing the buddy system.
1 hexane360 2017-12-10
What buddy?
1 UmmahSultan 2017-12-10
These attacks will become more and more common as the Muslim population increases (as it will, since Muslim countries produce refugees that you are obligated to accept, and they reproduce faster than native Swedes). Eventually, Islam will be the majority religion, and all of your Jewish population will be killed or exiled. Why are you okay with this?
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
I hate to end up like this in an argument, but you should head back to /r/conspiracy, nothing's pointing toward Islam becoming a majority religion.
1 Lucifer354 2017-12-10
Are you this fucking retarded? With Sweden accepting all these Muslims and Muslims reproducing faster than swedes the only conclusion to come to is that Islam will be majority religion in Swedistan.
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
Pew Research Center has estimated that if Sweden maintains the level of immigration that we had during the peak of refugee arrival, and nothing changed all the way until 2050, the number of Muslims could reach 30%. The numbers are already way down, so that's not gonna happen.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-12-10
It's okay to rape people if it's only 30%
1 constantinople_2053 2017-12-10
white women aren't people, silly.
1 Raving_Dave 2017-12-10
true if big
1 UmmahSultan 2017-12-10
2050 is only 33 years away, and there is no particular reason to treat it as the end of history.
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
No, but there is a particular reason to not let people spout bullshit that's factually incorrect in order to denigrate Sweden.
1 shallowm 2017-12-10
I love how the whole thread was pretty much
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
Somehow the government, foreign media, people living in the country, OECD and other independent organizations are all lying to us, except for the bastion of truth and righteousness that is American right-wing media.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
Islam denigrates Sweden.
1 ProgressiveFragility 2017-12-10
inshallah
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
lol what the fuck why are there people throwing grenades in your country
thats not a thing thats supposed to happen outside of a war
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
People aren't supposed to shoot each other either, and that happens basically everywhere. What's your point?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
guns generally exist in some capacity in a normal society so the potential technically exists for them to be misused, its a risk we take in order to be able to use them- much like a car
meanwhile where tf are people even getting grenades and why are they just floating around
also its because youre too soft on illegal immigrants and refugees that dont care about your law because they lived in a war torn third world country beforehand
theyll overrun your country and then all youll have is rape and grenades
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
The grenades come from the Balkans, which is within Schengen, and are a remnant of the Balkan war, so the prevalence of grenades has nothing to do with the recent immigration.
And don't pull the rape shit on me, Sweden doesn't have a higher number of rapes than other equivalent countries, and the grenade this is over. There has been one injury and zero casualties so far this year, but yeah I should definitely be so scared of grenade attacks.
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
i mean border control would probably stop grenade smuggling at least a little
its not me you have to be worried about buddy
cant lie about this anymore sorry
its epidemic and unacceptable, approx 85% of rapes are by non white illegal immigrants and you just accept it because it doesnt affect you personally and you dont want to look racist
its actually more racist to have such low expectations of them that you think its in their nature, these are individuals taking advantage of your misguided altruism not victims that cant control themselves
dont worry though you can just tell women not to go outside by themselves instead of owning up to and fixing your mistakes amirite
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
That would be like having border controls between the different states in the US. We have abolished internal border controls for a reason.
No, but you're the one who has no idea what the situation in Sweden is actually like regarding rape, you've seen a number and drew conclusions from that without as much as looking at the context.
And can you please provide some sources for your claim of 85%? For some reason nobody ever has sources when they trash talk Sweden, I wonder why that is. Could is possibly be because they're exaggerating and straight up lying in order to double down on their preexisting opinions?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
and hows that working out with all the refugees and grenades
youre in denial, just because the media in sweden manages to convince you that nothings happening the news still reaches us
we see all the pedo refugees snuggling up with 10 year olds having their picture taken, we see reporters being beaten up ion the street and told they cant enter certain areas
we see how many people get gang raped and covered in jizz in the street
you need to fix your shit you cant just pretend its cool forever
nope i read articles from the region because im interested in how much a country can get raped before they defend themselves
its morbidly fascinating and will be a great case study for what not to do once youre overrun with illegals and turn into a third world country in a couple decades
they probably think its not worth making examples of something so blatant and easily searchable
nevertheless heres some articles
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex-assaults-sweden-stockholm-music-festival
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-12/swedish-police-cannot-cope-huge-numbers-rapes-migrants-arrived
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/08/alleged-gang-rape-facebook-shocks-sweden/97633012/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4962088/Swedish-lawyer-says-rapists-sees-foreign.html
could it possibly be that youre in denial? you dont want to admit that largely foreign immigrants are committing crimes and raping people en masse in your country because youd rather let it happen than be called racist
thats cowardly af take your country back or at least establish some fucking ground rules
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
Ah yes, all those poor refugees from within the Schengen area. The tragic Finnish people begging for scraps outside of supermarkets, the desperate Germans who risked everything they have to get to Sweden, how could I forget about those.
I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I ask everybody here: Why are non-fatal grenade attacks inherently worse than firearm attacks, stabbings or vehicles speeding down pedestrian streets? Grenades killed zero people this year, so why are they worse that other attacks? Why does having 10 incidents of non-fatal attacks suddenly make Sweden unsafe, when we have a lower level of crime in general?
And now you're back to making sweeping statements without providing any source, completely ignoring the point I was making about how Sweden's definition of rape is different than other countries. Tell me where you saw people getting gang raped and covered in jizz in the street in Sweden. Tell me where you saw reporters being beaten up in the street and told they can't enter certain areas (I know what you're referring to, but that's a massive misrepresentation of what actually happened), and most of all tell me about your understanding of the locals' view on foreign journalists making deceitful reports from these areas.
And it's pretty ironic that your sources are one opinion piece; one article from fairly openly antisemitic Gatestone Institute written by Ingrid Carlqvist, possibly Sweden's most famous antisemite who suggests that they should cooperate with self-proclaimed neo-nazis and questioned "why it was so sensitive to discuss the evidence surrounding the Holocaust"; one article which clearly supports my statement and not yours regarding the rape statistics in Sweden (which is also from 2012, before the immigration started); one article by Paul Joseph Watson on InfoWars which is rehosted on ZeroHedge; one article about one incident of rape with the quote "There's been total outrage about this case in Sweden" and yet you say that we Swedes are just letting it happen; and a Daily Mail article about a Breitbart article about one person retelling her story of working as a lawyer. I wouldn't call those proper evidence about neither the general situation nor the numbers you claim.
My question was very simple, where did you get your claim that 85% of rapes were committed by illegal immigrants? The Gatestone Institute mentions a book which supposedly says that 85% of all of those sentenced in a certain count to over 2 years in prison were either first or second generation immigrants. What it neglects to mention is that the number of convicted rapists they counted was 27. So not only was there no mention of illegal immigrants and neither was the number about the general prevalence of immigrants in the crime statistics, the number of cases the author looked as is way too small to provide statistics about the entire country.
But what is the most pathetic about most people who make these claims is that they also claim that it's hushed down and nobody talks about it. Just read those articles and their sources. There's an article where the prime minister condones the actions. There's articles about the public's outrage. And yet somehow people say that we're all in on the conspiracy and turn a blind eye to it.
You're not making a good case for yourself, all you're doing is rehashing the exact same arguments from questionable sources that I've already said won't convince me of the situation being any different from my current perception. You've gotta try harder instead of just insulting me.
1 kermit_was_right 2017-12-10
Grenades get smuggled in from the Balklands. Those people are fucking savages, Muslims or Christian.
It's difficult and expensive to get weapons in Sweden, thus they are generally only used by organized crime. It seems that the channels they're using to acquire guns have taken to throwing in grenades, often as a free bonus.
But while grenades are colorful and exciting, actual violent crime rates are pretty fucking low - but feels over reals, right?
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
i live in australia and its the same, but we put all our illegal immigrants on an island offshore and for some reason we dont seem to have these same problems
there might be a connection
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
Yes, they are. That is how they defend themselves.
1 Cahootie 2017-12-10
Seems like I missed the memo where Dylann Roof, Stephen Paddock and Devin Patrick Kelley were defending themselves.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
You also missed the memo where I give a damn
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-10
Get it together Achmed, this is way below quota.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
1 Rith2 2017-12-10
I thought the “grenade” attacks were just people blasting their cars in an insurance scam
1 kermit_was_right 2017-12-10
Surprisingly no.
https://qz.com/886244/open-borders-and-vintage-balkan-hand-grenades-are-being-blamed-for-a-crime-wave-in-sweden/
1 jess_albas_twin 2017-12-10
Only in philly
1 Poolb0y 2017-12-10
When are we going to ban /u/lemonscore for being a knuckledragging neanderthal
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
I've actually already been banned, the mods reinstated me because of the class I bring the subreddit.
1 Senator_Chickpea 2017-12-10
Further proof that Swedes can't cook anything.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/314/088/b73.jpg
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
lol jews scheme to bring all these guys in and they go straight and start firebombing synagogues
top play fellas
1 imnotagayboy 2017-12-10
Why would the jews want their arch nemesis to infest their own communities?
"There Is No Future But What We Make Of Of It" - u/imnotagayboy
1 captainpriapism 2017-12-10
they have no foresight
1 ilizabitch 2017-12-10
or foreskin
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2017-12-10
Jews are naturally uncomfortable in any country that is remotely ethnically homogeneous. Blanda upping Sweden makes them feel better because it cuts down on Sven's power to kick them out. However, this is an instinctual move, and not 11-dimensional dreidel spinning, so they literally don't see the consequences until it's too late.
Fortunately, Jews have several homelands to flee to, like Israel and Florida.
1 BigLordShiggot 2017-12-10
Long term, the internal strife is going to red-pill Europe and wake them from their slow decline.
1 LemonScore 2017-12-10
I hope so.