every time I get summoned here, I have a quick look around and find that this place gets worse and worse, it's like a black hole which mangles everything that gets sucked into it. src
"We're neo liberals. You know, because our entire platform used to be Republican but now we're calling it liberal."
Not that the dipshits with vague ideas about communism based on internet postings and sci-fi fandom come off better in this. Sometimes, when SRD discusses things like this, I can't decide if there are literal children on SRD in large numbers or if the average politically active 20-something can be this uneducated on a topic they spend countless hours discussing,
I actually hope its the later. With the pedo sympathizers in the userbase and on the mod team, I don't feel like SRD is safe for impressionable kids.
It's not that communists aren't assholes, it's mostly that neoliberals are not even kind of better, and at this point, and is well on its way toward causing just as much death and destruction.
Between being known as the ideology that dismantled democracy throughout South and Central America, backed several Asian dictators, advocated for deep austerity following the 2007 crash (which is itself mostly responsible for the current bout of political extremism) and just generally acting like mafia bosses any chance they get, it's just not a defensible ideology anymore. Id politics, using feminism as an excuse to gut workplace protections and in many countries, democracy itself; those are the results of neoliberals. They're a bunch of race and gender-baiting rich kids who want to steal everyone else's money, pocket most of it, and pass a few remaining dollars around the third world while acting like they're good people.
Neoliberalism has never exactly been a force for good in the world.
btw: occasional reminder whenever I accidentally click onto that sub
Look at the people who founded the Mont Pelerin Society, it includes names like Rothbard, Hayek, Friedman. The first meeting before the society was founded was called by Hayek to discuss combating the rise of Marxism and Keynesianism
Look at the people who have been championed by the MPS, the likes of Reagan in America, Thatcher in Britain, Conservatives all over South America, Europe, and Australia
And, if you want to argue that the ideology has shifted because 16-24 year old redditors have said so, look at the Think Tanks created from the MPS. The Institute of Economic Affairs is a conservative think tank, The Manhattan Institute is a conservative/libertarian think tank, The Atlas Network literally takes it's name from Ayn Rand's work "Atlas Shrugged"
Neoliberalism is a small step away from classical liberalism, it is nowhere near the centre, let alone modern Democrats
Here's a fun little game you can play. Here is a list of of all current and former members of the Mont Pelerin Society. It includes living anarcho-capitalists.
From my point of view is a left wing ideology! Then again, I may be a fascist (?).
Oh this is your point. It's pretty retarded. Okay, fine. Neoliberalism is a right wing ideology in The West's general overton window from around 1930 onwards
If you go to the right enough, it becomes left by the horseshoe theorem. So yes, they are to the right of /r/neoliberal, but that means they have the same political alignment!
When you think about it, it's not that hard to imagine a mindset that puts short term money creation in front of literally any other aspect of the human experience.
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1 SnapshillBot 2017-12-21
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1 nqtbty 2017-12-21
radical centrism is the ideology of drama.
1 Tarrock 2017-12-21
I got banned from that sub for posting star wars spoilers days before release :(
1 ltedt 2017-12-21
Gotta drink that alien titty milk
1 VPEKD 2017-12-21
Will the SRDine ever end?
1 ffbtaw 2017-12-21
On the day of the can.
1 Assy-McGee 2017-12-21
/r/subredditdrama is a tankie echo-chamber. News at 11
1 broden 2017-12-21
SRD being literal gommies?
#wow #woah
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2017-12-21
"We're neo liberals. You know, because our entire platform used to be Republican but now we're calling it liberal."
Not that the dipshits with vague ideas about communism based on internet postings and sci-fi fandom come off better in this. Sometimes, when SRD discusses things like this, I can't decide if there are literal children on SRD in large numbers or if the average politically active 20-something can be this uneducated on a topic they spend countless hours discussing,
I actually hope its the later. With the pedo sympathizers in the userbase and on the mod team, I don't feel like SRD is safe for impressionable kids.
1 TherapyFortheRapy 2017-12-21
It's not that communists aren't assholes, it's mostly that neoliberals are not even kind of better, and at this point, and is well on its way toward causing just as much death and destruction.
Between being known as the ideology that dismantled democracy throughout South and Central America, backed several Asian dictators, advocated for deep austerity following the 2007 crash (which is itself mostly responsible for the current bout of political extremism) and just generally acting like mafia bosses any chance they get, it's just not a defensible ideology anymore. Id politics, using feminism as an excuse to gut workplace protections and in many countries, democracy itself; those are the results of neoliberals. They're a bunch of race and gender-baiting rich kids who want to steal everyone else's money, pocket most of it, and pass a few remaining dollars around the third world while acting like they're good people.
Neoliberalism has never exactly been a force for good in the world.
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
Copy pasta?
1 Ennui2778 2017-12-21
Imagine still being this buttmad over Kwangju.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
btw: occasional reminder whenever I accidentally click onto that sub
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
I'll take Ludwig Von Mises words: "Everyone here is a bunch of socialists"
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
Mises is just a lil bitch
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
I don't disagree.
...
I'm just saying that liberal thinkers are somewhat on a spectrum, like autism.
Yes, MPS was a bunch of rightwingers but it's not where liberalism ends, thirdway types have to count for something.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
Are you on the spectrum? All I'm saying is neoliberalism is a right wing ideology. That's literally my point. That's it.
Also the 18-24 year olds part about co-opting an ideology
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
Just as much as you.
From my point of view is a left wing ideology! Then again, I may be a fascist (?).
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
Oh this is your point. It's pretty retarded. Okay, fine. Neoliberalism is a right wing ideology in The West's general overton window from around 1930 onwards
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
If you go to the right enough, it becomes left by the horseshoe theorem. So yes, they are to the right of /r/neoliberal, but that means they have the same political alignment!
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
If you fuck me in the arse daddy but say no homo it isn't gay
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
This but unironically.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
I wasn't being ironic. I literally want you to fuck me. Please.
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
I live too far from you and my girlfriend would be jealous (yes, gussy, I know).
Sorry.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
Faggot
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
I know it hurts that I can't be available.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
Tbh I can get laid on Grindr in like 5 mins so it's really not an issue
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
But I'm that good.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2017-12-21
I'll never verify that though 😢
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
):
1 Anthropist_ 2017-12-21
Hey r/neoliberal posters
Are you all secretly accelerationists, or what
1 Dukkerz 2017-12-21
I'm just there because someone promised me tacos.
1 broden 2017-12-21
When you think about it, it's not that hard to imagine a mindset that puts short term money creation in front of literally any other aspect of the human experience.
1 cheeZetoastee 2017-12-21
I'm just doing it for Sorosbux and premium tequila
1 lssah1488wiking 2017-12-21
They are jew lovers.
1 darth_stroyer 2017-12-21
Lmao they're literally just mockingly talking in straw men.
1 Ultrashitpost 2017-12-21
Damn, i can't decide whether i hate neolibs more than tankies.
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
Curious, tankies can't decide between fascists and liberals, and liberals can't decide between fascists and tankies.
It's like...if all the ideologies are the same.
1 Ultrashitpost 2017-12-21
That's some advanced horseshoe theory
1 Neronoah 2017-12-21
Now it's time you come out as a liberal tankie.
1 ffbtaw 2017-12-21
4D horseshoe theory.
1 Mexagon 2017-12-21
It's funny seeing two retards fight over nickels. Entertain me, peasents!