REEEEing in r/Television when a brave user suggests that maybe, just maybe, Black Mirror is not the greatest TV show ever made.

150  2018-01-04 by T_Dumbsford-Is-Sexy

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How can I make Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in a TV format, but much, much worse?

--Black Mirror elevator pitch

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You're missing out Snappy. Loosen up a bit fam.

BEGONE DEVIL

Glad I've never watched it.

your opinion of yourself is overrated

u/d1spos1tion I've always been of the opinion that when someone who disagrees with me is right, the best response is ad hominem. I'm glad you and I are on the same page.

I mean, this is /r/drama, so /u/d1spos1tion ur a worthless piece of garbage keep yourself safe. We’re the kings of ad hominem

We’re the kings of ad hominem

your opinion of yourself is overrated

Ur opinion of ur mom is overrated

Got em

Keeping it real, yo.

WOT IF UR NAN GOT SUCKED INTO A COMPUTAH?

don't leak the script, you asshole

WOT IF YOUR M8 IS ALSO SECRETLY YOUR DAD

wot if yer nan ran on batteries

what if phones but too much

Isn't Snapchat too much already?

What if truman show but real

BRUV WHAT IF YE FRICKEN DOG HAD TO BE PLUGGED IN

BRO WHAT IF FUKKIN ROCKS WUS MADE OF COMPUTERS?

This series started started with some ridiculous bestial premise that in real life would be dismissed as a joke(that David Cameron's story, by the way, was almost 100% a lie inspired by the show in first place).

This show is the definition of edginess. Is being extreme for the sake of being extreme. But how it contains swear words instead of cartoon hedgehogs, everyone thinks it's serious.

are you david cameron?

You missed like 2 good episodes.

5 million merits, white christmas, white bear, anything else im missing?

Nosedive, men against fire, etc

nosedive

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funny that you picked the 2 worst episodes in the entire series. Nosedive is literally 'what if phones but too much' dude

What’s ur fav episode? I liked Metelhead from the new season. Mercifully short and kind of reminded me of Tetsuo: the iron man.

That episode sucked. It was some girl running from dogs with knives for 40 minutes. No plot whatsoever

Yeah but it was mercifully short clocking in at 40ish minutes, unlike the other episodes.

so what. It was probably the most entertaining episode in the entire show and the writer finally fleshed out one of his near future alternate realities. Crocodile has a way cooler tech gimmick but the episode sucks ass

men against fire

Men against fire was the most godawful episode in the entire show’s run

Whichever one where Hayley Atwell gets her tits out was also a good one

This is relevant to my interests.

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white bear

I thought that episode was really dumb tbh.

I watched White Christmas and thought it was really good, so later when my dad and I were sharing a hotel room I was like, "hey why don't we watch this cool show I found?" The show had really good reviews, so I assumed all the episodes would generally be of good quality. So I put on White Bear pretty much at random. When we finished the episode we basically looked at each other and said "that was shit."

Taste.

Uh David Cameron definitely diddled a pig

u/Ed_ButteredToast, what's your input?

USS Callister is REALLY amazing (focus on the ethical aspect and essentially try to imagine yourself in their position to be empathetic. It helps)

Arkangel is kinda bad lol. Had potential but didn't turn out good

Crocodile was shit. Even the basic theme was shit.

Hang the DJ is entertaining is all. They don't really focus on the philosophical and ethical aspects of the tech but it's still enjoyable. You won't get bored, that's a given.

Metalhead? I mean why even? Like what's the point of this whole episode lol

Black Museum is REALLY good. Like I really like it even if it's a bunch of stories. I love it.


I've seen White Christmas and again, it's really good. Not better than Black Museum tho.

Nosedive IS SO FUCKING SHIT

San Junipero? Ughhhhh YAWNNNNN

That's pretty much it.

Ed are you posting from a computer for once? Where are all the fucking emojiis 😣

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You were saying? :D

Btw these are all from my recent used emojis lol.

I see your a man of class 😏

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Drooling emoji? 🀀

one of few acceptable ones

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try to imagine yourself in their position to be empathetic

They're computer programs, are you retarded? It's like feeling empathy towards Excel.

The presumption is that consciousness is transferable and can be copied. Don't be dense.

poor bait

Clippy was an abused office intern at Microsoft HQ that Bill Gates ejected into MS Office so he could masturbate to his God-like control over humanity.

essentially try to imagine yourself in their position to be empathetic. It helps. Also it's not all serious

Lol wow, this is 2018 and we have to tell people to try to be empathetic. It's supposed to be automatic, that's what empathy is. It's hilarious that we are so cruel and heartless that we have to do this

me too thanks

Copied comment about Nosedive:

That was the only episode I watched and I couldn't make it all the way through. It was just as cheesy as Community's Meow Meow Beans but it wasn't trying to be funny.

What episode should I watch?

Idk tbh. I'll be watching 4 earlier episodes of Black Mirror mainly S02 and S03 and then I'll tell you what to start with. You need to know a little bit before going right in S04. Just as a caution. Personally? I'd suggest White Christmas or USS Callister. Before Callister, I had NoseDive, shut up and dance and San Junipero

Interesting. Been getting a lot of mixed signals on which one is a good episode. I've heard San Junipero is considered the best, but you hated it. Same with Callister. Everyone seems to agree that Nosedive is the worst though, so maybe I will give it another chance.

You need to know a little bit before going right in S04.

Whacha mean by that?

The best episode is "The Entire History of You", and perhaps "Shut up and Dance". Don't listen to the plebs.

Start with "Hated in the Nation" tbh. It's S03E06 and pretty fucking amazing IMO. I just watched it.

What about season 2

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Crocodile was beyond fucked up IMO. Made me feel very uncomfortable.

The dating app one was p good but the rest sucked ass.

Come on! The first episode, the USS Callister one, was awesome. Although tbf, I liked all the episodes really.

I just finished the second one and it was a little too predictable in some parts but was still alright. First episode got me hooked though.

That one was the worst one. Shit was something an autist would write and enjoy.

so why didn't you?

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My suspension of disbelief couldn't take it, assuming you aren't baiting of course.

this was easily my least favorite season. Black mirror peaked with season 3 imo

MetalHead and crocodile are shit tbh. Arkangel is meh. Hang the DJ, Black Museum and USS Callister are the good ones

Eh. Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

I'm not a very discriminating person(or I have shit taste lol). But yeah, I liked Black Museum the best.

The first and last both are my best tbh. Can't decide between them. Absolutely loved Hated in the Nation. White Christmas was good too. Be right back was good. Didn't bore me at all.

Yeah It's hard to hate on them tbqh. The only episode I dislike is Nosedive.

nosedive

And shut up and dance too.

The dating app one was the cheesiest ep that ended w the moral β€œdating apps are actually very good”. Miss whatever everyone else sees in that

Was probably sponsored by tinder tbh

The dating app one was the cheesiest ep that ended w the moral β€œdating apps are actually very good”

Lol that's not the moral of the episode at all. Idk how people can possibly think this is the case.

The episode was just another retread of the San Junipero theme

Well, none of the consequences in the episode happen because of the app and ultimately they end up together because of it. It’s not really critical of tinder at all. It’s critical of hookup culture that happens when you’re not paired with your true algorithm match. i think it was much more shallow than San Junipero

It's a commentary on the implications of AI living out simulations of life, the suffering they "endure" and the morality of forcing a seemingly conscious entity through 1000s of simulations with suffering, love, depression, etc.. all in the name of improving your dating life. It's almost exactly the same themes as San Junipero (and the original cookie assistant episode before it) just told through a different story.

Why is George Carlin the thumbnail for this

Ask u/GeorgeCarlin.

I don't like episode with politician because it was boring

"Trump! Trump! You love Trump! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trump Supporter! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

That episode was also out long before Trump. I didn't like it at first either but it's grown on me after the last campaign. Definitely much more interesting now.

It was always a subtle dig at UKIP and Green types, and an overt dig at Pub Landlord types

wat if kahnpΓΌter bed but people ?

Why does literally everyone have an opinion on this

Where the fuck have you been? It’s been almost universally praised on Reddit since it came out

It's not been praised on my twitter, and I don't visit those subreddits

Yeah well I guess you can’t see something if you rip your eyes out and bury your head in the sand.

If it makes you feel any better I have no idea what this is about.

He's right, because Firefly is the best TV show ever made.

Technologie is baaaad u guize, why don't we like, go back to living in nature and shit.

The good ole days, you know when black people were auctioned off as our slaves and you could legally hit women with anything the size of your fist or smaller. Miss 'em.

Brooker: the virgin anti-technologist

Kaczynski: the Chad anti-technologist

More like other way around tbh. I think kaczynski mighta been an actual virgin

maybe, but only because he has transcended pussy

Don’t we bitch about apps and dumb Silicon Valley shit like 24/7?

I've never watched the show, so go ahead and ruin the whole plot for me so I don't have to. Also if you could ruin Game of Thrones as well, I would appreciate that. I don't have time for that shit either.

Who r u talking 2

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He fucks the pig. And Iphones are bad.

Perfect, thanks.

ruin Game of Thrones

The egomanaical despot and the suicidal idiot hook up and every good character dies.

"HOW CUM YU NO LIKE THE THING I LIKE?" VS "HOW CUM U LIKE THE THING I NO LIKE, MINISTER YU SATOSHI???"

Every. Fucking. Time. Even worse on HipHopHeads.

you probably have terrible taste

what if phones but too much

Make a Black Mirror but based on 4chan dystopia greentext stories.

>mfw I realize I am a computer

Even better: base it off /r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu comics. 100% Golden Globe material.

I made it through the first season, but I can't bring myself to watch more...it's just fucking depressing.

what is it that stops people from having nuanced opinions on the internet. why cant people make a post like, "I want to talk with other people that don't like black mirror", as opposed to "HURRR AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS BLACK MIRROR IS UTTER SHIT IF YOU LIKE IT UR A CHILD WITH BAD TASTE"

I tried to like this show, couldn't. It's stilted, boring and not in a self aware and funny way.

The premises are kinda creative, though many have been examined before. It's just that the show doesn't actually take them to any creative conclusion. It's kinda easy to guess what the show will end at during the middle once one has seen a few episodes and has a handle on the pattern.

Yeah it's very impressive if you've never cracked open a sci-fi novel, which in these days is likely common. You're also right about the shallow analysis of it all, but people are still really impressed by it.

I guess it's good sci-fi by family guy TV standards.

I like the show, but what's the point in arguing with someone if they don't like it?

I think you might be in the wrong sub buddy.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Black Mirror...

I can see this becoming the next R&M, given how passionate people get when you criticize it.

I posted in r/tv that the San Junipero episode wasn’t actually a positive episode like all of Reddit thought and actually felt like what an angry edgy atheist tech worker who thinks himself as a god figure because he can code and make products would write. I got downvoted and called out by atheists for it

It feels like Charlie Brooker ran out of ideas, and is now using his old ideas to reframe cliche storylines.

β€œHey, remember the cookies from White Christmas? Now they’re in SPAAAAAAAAACE!”

β€œHey, remember the eye camera thing I made up? What if your parents could see through your eyes?”

β€œHey, let’s do the telltale heart! Wait, needs tech, IDK, memory reader or some shit.”

β€œHey, remember when the artificial consciousnesses fell in love? Let’s do it again!”

β€œTerminator. But the terminator is- wait for it- A DOG! Fuck, I’m good.”

β€œCallbacks. Callbacks everywhere.”

The quickest way to kill an artist is to get him to believe his own hype.