It probably is a troll tbh. They overplayed their hand when they started defending ORION, a forced gps program that UPS drivers everywhere have a burning hatred to.
Nah, we get paid by the hour not by the package. If management wants us to follow a notoriously inefficient gps software to coordinate our routes , then whatever dude. I'll take the OT.
u/Makasouleater69 Are you a troll, or are you actually as retarded as you sound?
Are you really an obese psych patient who got his Fleshlight delivered to the wrong address like u/STL-UPS-DRIVER claims? Kinda seemed like he had your number tbh, and I notice you didn't directly refute his claims- Care to clear that up for us?
If they were overpaid like you say then they wouldn't have a problem hiring drivers. My city can't even get enough qualified drivers to fill their needs. Basic economics shows that means they aren't paying enough...
Everything I've ever heard about UPS drivers is that they're near the top of the seniority chain and that UPS generally promotes within. Maybe there aren't enough people who want to chuck boxes into trailers in a sweltering warehouse for a few bucks above minimum wage just for a shot to pretend that package recipients aren't home because they have too many packages to deliver so they have to lie to keep numbers up. I would definitely call them overworked.
You are correct. UPS is required by contract to hire 6 out of 7 drivers from the union. The seventh outside hire is usually reserved for a supervisor who wants to go driving. The majority of drivers and everyone at UPS started as package handlers at the hub. They get chosen based on seniority and the list is usually between 1-5 years. Many people quit before that and honestly driving is extremely difficult, especially if you have a family. This past peak season was miserable for everyone.
Do you think UPS would be willing to hire more drivers if it weren't for the artificial market restriction by the union contract? Delivering packages doesn't seem like the worst job, but toughing it out for years in the warehouse to get a chance to drive seems like a big investment for potential hires and a huge turn-off for me personally.
While UPS accountants will always be stingy and overwork people as much as they can get away with, /u/pifhluk describes a situation where they want to hire people but cannot, making everyone else's lives miserable as they take on an increased load. It just seems to me that problem could be mitigated by hiring people with delivery experience who don't want to do the bitchwork again.
Here it's 3 months of loading and if you show up on time and do your job they will try you as a driver. I don't think that's very long to wait. They also hire 1 "off the street" per I believe 7 in house.
Good question. I don't know if it's the same at every hub, but the list is always full of inside employees who want to go driving and I believe they can hire temporary drivers during peak season to meet the volume.
You are right that it is a big investment and imo they need to make the package handler position more appealing for potential new employees. I mean, our benefits only kick in after a year, and chucking packages for 5 hours a day during the regular year for 11 an hour isn't enough to make ends meet by itself, even with raises. The union is mostly concerned with career full time drivers and often neglect the people who do the bitch work in the hub. It's a constant source of controversy. Things are looking hopeful though for the next contract in 2018 and I hear they're raising the starting pay for package handlers to 15 an hour.
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1 plurpnslurp 2018-01-09
That's some pretty hard sperging. I do get a whiff of it all being fake but it's hard to tell
1 takesteady12 2018-01-09
It probably is a troll tbh. They overplayed their hand when they started defending ORION, a forced gps program that UPS drivers everywhere have a burning hatred to.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-01-09
If they hate it so much then they can get a different job.
1 takesteady12 2018-01-09
Nah, we get paid by the hour not by the package. If management wants us to follow a notoriously inefficient gps software to coordinate our routes , then whatever dude. I'll take the OT.
1 fsdgfhk 2018-01-09
u/Makasouleater69 Are you a troll, or are you actually as retarded as you sound?
Are you really an obese psych patient who got his Fleshlight delivered to the wrong address like u/STL-UPS-DRIVER claims? Kinda seemed like he had your number tbh, and I notice you didn't directly refute his claims- Care to clear that up for us?
1 BussySundae 2018-01-09
After looking at his lengthy replies, I am inclined to say he is real and that he's very upset.
Proof
1 ExilesReturn 2018-01-09
That's a troll. And TIL there is a fucking UPS subreddit.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-01-09
Everything I've ever heard about UPS drivers is that they're near the top of the seniority chain and that UPS generally promotes within. Maybe there aren't enough people who want to chuck boxes into trailers in a sweltering warehouse for a few bucks above minimum wage just for a shot to pretend that package recipients aren't home because they have too many packages to deliver so they have to lie to keep numbers up. I would definitely call them overworked.
But maybe I'm just wrong.
1 takesteady12 2018-01-09
You are correct. UPS is required by contract to hire 6 out of 7 drivers from the union. The seventh outside hire is usually reserved for a supervisor who wants to go driving. The majority of drivers and everyone at UPS started as package handlers at the hub. They get chosen based on seniority and the list is usually between 1-5 years. Many people quit before that and honestly driving is extremely difficult, especially if you have a family. This past peak season was miserable for everyone.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-01-09
Do you think UPS would be willing to hire more drivers if it weren't for the artificial market restriction by the union contract? Delivering packages doesn't seem like the worst job, but toughing it out for years in the warehouse to get a chance to drive seems like a big investment for potential hires and a huge turn-off for me personally.
While UPS accountants will always be stingy and overwork people as much as they can get away with, /u/pifhluk describes a situation where they want to hire people but cannot, making everyone else's lives miserable as they take on an increased load. It just seems to me that problem could be mitigated by hiring people with delivery experience who don't want to do the bitchwork again.
1 pifhluk 2018-01-09
Here it's 3 months of loading and if you show up on time and do your job they will try you as a driver. I don't think that's very long to wait. They also hire 1 "off the street" per I believe 7 in house.
1 takesteady12 2018-01-09
Good question. I don't know if it's the same at every hub, but the list is always full of inside employees who want to go driving and I believe they can hire temporary drivers during peak season to meet the volume.
You are right that it is a big investment and imo they need to make the package handler position more appealing for potential new employees. I mean, our benefits only kick in after a year, and chucking packages for 5 hours a day during the regular year for 11 an hour isn't enough to make ends meet by itself, even with raises. The union is mostly concerned with career full time drivers and often neglect the people who do the bitch work in the hub. It's a constant source of controversy. Things are looking hopeful though for the next contract in 2018 and I hear they're raising the starting pay for package handlers to 15 an hour.
1 strathmeyer 2018-01-09
Damn what year did people have to line up somewhere to get unemployment, grandpa? (They replaced all those peoples' jobs with a phone system.)