The Swedish government wants an amnesty period where grenades can be handed in to the police without punishment in an effort to get the explosives off the country's streets
Whenever you see someone saying "Sweden has fallen" or something similarly retarded, you can be almost certain that it's an American, or someone not living in the country they're lamenting.
Whenever you see someone saying "Sweden has fallen" or something similarly retarded, you can be almost certain that it's an American, or someone even further from the country they're crying about (for some reason, there are an abnormal number of Australians deeply invested in the American political scene).
click through genius. they're very well sourced. if you have problem reading, maybe you should check your hysteria.
/u/the-capitan you seem incapable of of actually producing a source for this outside of a Google image search. Are you actually retarded or "just pretending"?
because the links there are the sources. you click the graph and that's the source. there are hundreds of them. if you want to ignore reality, go ahead. we'll continue calling you out for being hysterical.
That's not really a good article, then. It's about sexual harassment, not rape, and it's from 2012, well before the migrant crisis. People in Sweden probably think that having someone smile at you is sexual harassment.
that article is from january 2016 what are you smoking
“Over the past 10 to 15 years, immigrants have mainly come [into Sweden] from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Syria and Somalia. Might this influx explain Sweden’s rape explosion?"
I really don't care enough to do more than skim one article. It's a bit fascinating to me how so many right-wing Americans on the internet are absolutely obssessed with this, though.
because native swedish girls are blonde-haired and blue-eyed and pure and some dirty fucking ahmed is shoving their tiny sandy cocks in holes reserved for aryans
Have you ever been to Sweden, or even personally spoken to a Swedish person? You care so much about what is ultimately an insignificant issue in the grand scheme, on the other side of the planet, one on which you not been informed by any actual experience. Sweden can take care of itself. It doesn't need a bunch of thirsty internet wierdos to "save" its white women.
Yeah, cool, they're a democracy and they can do that. Go fix your own life because something is clearly lacking in it for you to be so invested in the status of Swedish vaginas.
Who said anything about nobility? I care plenty about the imbalances in the U.S.-China trade relationship and increasing political polarization within American society, among other things. Those are far more relevant to my life than Swedish vag is to yours.
In 2014, there were 6,697 rapes reported to the Swedish police, or 69 cases per 100,000 population, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRÅ), which is an 11% increase from the previous year
In 2016, the number of reported rapes increased again to 6,715[7].
pretending that an intellectual like myself doesn't know those numbers, even the increases, are downplayed and underreported for the purposes of curbing "Islamophobia"
The rate of exposure to sexual offences has remained relatively unchanged, according to the SCS, since the first survey was conducted in 2006, despite an increase in the number of reported sex crimes.[38] This discrepancy can largely be explained by reforms in sex crime legislation, widening of the definition of rape,[39] and an effort by the Government to decrease the number of unreported cases.[32]
Claim: "There has been a major increase in the number of rapes in Sweden."
Facts: The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen. But the definition of rape has broadened over time, which makes it difficult to compare the figures. It is also misleading to compare the figures with other countries, as many acts that are considered rape under Swedish law are not considered rape in many other countries.
For example: If a woman in Sweden reports that she has been raped by her husband every night for a year, that is counted as 365 separate offences; in most other countries this would be registered as a single offence, or would not be registered as an offence at all.
Willingness to report such offences also differs dramatically between countries. A culture in which these crimes are talked about openly, and victims are not blamed, will also have more cases reported. Sweden has made a conscious effort to encourage women to report any offence.
Sweden as the rape capital of Europe/the world
Claim: Sweden has the highest number of rapes per capita in either Europe of the world
Even though many people try to claim this, it is pure lies. While the numbers might make it seem like Sweden has a lot of rapes (which still doesn't make it the rape capital of the world no matter what way you look at it), there are a couple of factors that skew the numbers.
Explanation: Statistics are different between countries and cannot be straight up compared
The first and most impactful one is that Sweden has a much wider definition of rape in crime statistics. The numbers that people use when comparing Sweden to other places also include sexual harassment among other things, and they also count every single incident separately. What this means is that if someone raped their spouse every day for an entire year that would count as 365 rapes, whereas most countries would count that as one single offence (if the countries even count inter-marital forced intercourse as rape). Swedish victims also have a higher tendency to report the crime than people from other countries, which makes it so that the number of hidden crime is lower in Sweden.
Sources
The Swedish government have themselves responded to this claim, and the BBC have also made a fairly detailed article on the matter.
The development of the number of rapes in Sweden and its relationship with immigration
Claim: The number of rapes have increased due to the recent European migration crisis
There is no denying that the number of rapes have increased in Sweden, and that is not entirely due to the redefinition of rape, but it also not a result of the recent wave of immigration.
Explanation: While the numbers have increased, many people ignore context
Here is the official statistics regarding what share of Swedes were the victims of sexual crime last year according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, and this includes everything from rape to indecent exposure. As you can see the numbers are up to 2.6% in 2016 (4.1% for women), but what you might notice is that the increase started in 2013, so there is no way to directly correlate this to the recent influx of immigrants.
Swedish police also don't record the ethnicity of criminals, so there is no way to pinpoint exactly what group of people are behind the increase, What can be said though is an argument that the government itself has made in the same page as mentioned before. They refer to a study from Stockholm University that has concluded that the main factor when it comes to crime among immigrants is the socioeconomic conditions that they grew up in. Unfortunately there are no studies regarding third generation immigrants due to the lack of third generation immigrants from outside of Europe in Sweden, so we can't draw any conclusion when it comes to long term effects of having a foreign background.
Sources
The article from the government didn't link to a certain source, and the only thing I can find online is articles referring to a study from 2011 which seems to be the one referred to by the government. It was conducted by Jerzy Sarnecki, possibly Sweden's most famous criminologist, and observed people who graduated primary school in the Stockholm region.
Addendum
Jerzy Sarnecki has also published another study in 2016 on the same subject, where he mentions three factors that could skew the numbers. Those are discrimination toward immigrants in the judicial system (which would increase the tendency to report crime if an immigrant is the suspected perpetrator), conditions in the country of origin and conditions in the recipient country. Simply looking at the conditions that these people lived in in Sweden already shows that the socioeconomic factors cause twice as many people to commit crimes, which indicated that the country of origin might not be the main issue, but instead the condition in vulnerable areas in Sweden, which brings me to my third slightly related point.
No-go zones in Sweden
Claim: Sweden has multiple no-go zones
While we're at it I might dispel this notion aswell. Supposedly Sweden has a bunch of areas where the police don't go and where criminals control everything.
Explanation: Sweden has a bunch of so called "vulnerable areas" that experience a higher level of social unrest and alienation
Once again I refer you to the government article, but these areas are in no way as bad as some people make them out to be. I personally used to live right next to one of these areas and would regularly walk through there day and night, and I know many people who lived in the areas with no fear to their own safety, men and women. The Wikipedia page on these areas is pretty good, even though certain sources they use have been heavily critizised in Sweden (especially [3]). I'm gonna leave it at that since it wasn't the main focus of this comment.
Sources
Here is the official police report on the matter, which states the following criterion when it comes to categorizing these areas:
An especially vulnerable area is characterized by:
Public indisposition to participate in the judicial system
Difficulties for the police to fulfill their duties
Parallel social structures
Religious radicalization
Proximity to other vulnerable areas
Summary
Sweden is facing many issues. Things have gotten worse, and something has to be done about it, but that doesn't mean that Sweden has more rapes than equivalent countries or that Sweden is less safe than other countries (I seriously spoke to people who compared Sweden to Syria and Somalia). Sweden is still a safe country experiencing high economic growth.
Vulnerable area (sv: Utsatt område) is a term applied by police in Sweden to areas with high crime rates and social deprivation. In the December 2015 report, these areas numbered 53. In the June 2017 report, these totalled 61.
All the areas are situated south of the town of Gävle and most most are areas constructed during Million Programme (MP), although there are towns north of Gävle having MP areas they do not experience the crime rate of some southern MP areas.
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1 pizzashill 2018-01-10
It's weird how obsessed the far-right is with Sweden and how much bullshit they've fabricated about the country.
Half the shit they link refutes their own argument.
1 IslamicStatePatriot 2018-01-10
You're absolutely right. Diversity is our strength.
Lol
1 scatmunchies 2018-01-10
Sounds like progress on the mayocide, tbh.
1 IneedSomeThrowaway 2018-01-10
1 shallowm 2018-01-10
The grenades come from the Balkans, which is within Schengen, and are a remnant of the Balkan war.
It's kind of like how guns/shootings are much more prevalent in the US than in Sweden.
1 StingAuer 2018-01-10
the grenade attacks are pre-brown people.
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-01-10
Don't kinkshame
1 embedded_68k 2018-01-10
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1 UnHolyAutismoWarrior 2018-01-10
Is it Europeans pushing this propaganda? Because I'm from the U.S, and couldn't give less of a fuck about what cucked countries do to themselves.
1 pizzashill 2018-01-10
It's almost 100% Americans.
1 UnHolyAutismoWarrior 2018-01-10
So the white-identity "european nationalist" WE WUZ VIKINGS N SHEEEEIIIT types?
1 pizzashill 2018-01-10
Yes.
1 PracticalOnions 2018-01-10
1 shallowm 2018-01-10
Whenever you see someone saying "Sweden has fallen" or something similarly retarded, you can be almost certain that it's an American, or someone not living in the country they're lamenting.
1 shallowm 2018-01-10
Whenever you see someone saying "Sweden has fallen" or something similarly retarded, you can be almost certain that it's an American, or someone even further from the country they're crying about (for some reason, there are an abnormal number of Australians deeply invested in the American political scene).
1 moudougou 2018-01-10
3 reasons:
1) Sweden was hyped as a social-democrat paradise
2) most feminist laws on earth (actual reason why Swedish rape stats are so weird)
3) blond hair
1 choriposting 2018-01-10
Not for long inshallah
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
/u/the-capitan you seem incapable of of actually producing a source for this outside of a Google image search. Are you actually retarded or "just pretending"?
1 the-capitan 2018-01-10
because the links there are the sources. you click the graph and that's the source. there are hundreds of them. if you want to ignore reality, go ahead. we'll continue calling you out for being hysterical.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
So go find a source, fucknugget
1 the-capitan 2018-01-10
i just gave you hundreds. too hysterical to work your mouse?
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
This is the same shit sjws pull. End yourself mayo
1 TropicL3mon 2018-01-10
"the sources are right there, just look at all those google images." You've really convinced us bud, Keep Yourself Safe
1 [deleted] 2018-01-10
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
If there are so many it should be easy for you to get one. Nobody is going to do your work for you.
1 the-capitan 2018-01-10
click the first one. shouldn't be too tough for you. you've got big hands right. i already linked to it. maybe it's too hard for you to read?
1 [deleted] 2018-01-10
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1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
Can I do it?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html
/u/the-capitan ffs was this so hard
wrong bitch, this gets me hard
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
I was going to comment a couple of hours ago but Reddit sperged out and set the comment character limit to 1. Then I forgot about this.
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1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
oh man you're not even /u/annoysthegoys he's the one I really wanted to rub it in to
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
That's not really a good article, then. It's about sexual harassment, not rape, and it's from 2012, well before the migrant crisis. People in Sweden probably think that having someone smile at you is sexual harassment.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
that article is from january 2016 what are you smoking
sweden has favored mudslimes for a while
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
Also, lol at "Gatestone Institute".
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
Have you ever wondered why its difficult to find those statistics after the migrant crisis started?
but besides the graph that started this whole discussion (which even snopes is forced to admit is true, but not limited to just rape)
there's this: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/United-States/Crime
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
I really don't care enough to do more than skim one article. It's a bit fascinating to me how so many right-wing Americans on the internet are absolutely obssessed with this, though.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
because native swedish girls are blonde-haired and blue-eyed and pure and some dirty fucking ahmed is shoving their tiny sandy cocks in holes reserved for aryans
and then killing a lot of them after
but lol whatever right?
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
I really hope you're joking, otherwise this comment is just pathetic.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
half-joking.
a rising number of girls are getting raped and murdered by inbred sandy pedo-worshippers but you're cool because you don't care
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
Have you ever been to Sweden, or even personally spoken to a Swedish person? You care so much about what is ultimately an insignificant issue in the grand scheme, on the other side of the planet, one on which you not been informed by any actual experience. Sweden can take care of itself. It doesn't need a bunch of thirsty internet wierdos to "save" its white women.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
i watch pewdiepie so i'm basically fluent
yeah, and it will in future elections. say hello to the next far-right european state.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
Yeah, cool, they're a democracy and they can do that. Go fix your own life because something is clearly lacking in it for you to be so invested in the status of Swedish vaginas.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
lol if you cared about anything I'm sure it'd be less noble or interesting. much like yourself.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-01-10
Who said anything about nobility? I care plenty about the imbalances in the U.S.-China trade relationship and increasing political polarization within American society, among other things. Those are far more relevant to my life than Swedish vag is to yours.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
by this you mean cultural marxism grabbing regular liberals by the ankles and sprinting a hundred million miles to the left?
of course you do
1 plurpnslurp 2018-01-10
People in Sweden are too prude for the raw sexuality of migrants
1 plurpnslurp 2018-01-10
People in Sweden are too prude for the raw sexuality of migrants
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html
i love that headline in the url, mmmmmmmmmmmmm
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
Might wanna actually read the study and lol at The Gatestone Institute. It's adorable how excited you got tho. Go get em, scamp!
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
lol you wouldn't believe it even if the entire country became nothing but mohammeds
maybe then you'll go to visit and never come back. I'd miss your dumbass tho
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
Well you tried
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
lol good one bruh you should come post those sick bants at T_D where they belong
can i just get your opinion on why the crime statistics for rape in Sweden are so hard to find past 2014, yet so easy to find before that?
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
Ltrly on Wikipedia, Mongo
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
lol did you mean to fuck yourself?
F U C K I N G
P L A Y E D
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
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1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
yeah because 2016 literally erased that decline and then some, while 2014's increase is still there
do you even math?
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
Over 3 years, it only increased by 0.27%? Cool
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
Lol
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
Now you're just flattering me 😊
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
Hmmmmmmmno
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-01-10
https://i.imgur.com/mXyupD1.gif
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
Not even applicable lol
1 CantBeHeldAccountabl 2018-01-10
This isn't the right place in the convo I'm pretty sure but who gives a shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#The_Swedish_Crime_Survey
1 ay_what_up2 2018-01-10
found one https://www.snopes.com/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-01-10
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html
lol snopes. we already saw you post this tired ass clinton-grovelling fake facts site in the linked thread, it has no power here
1 moudougou 2018-01-10
lmao
1 ay_what_up2 2018-01-10
LMAO
1 shallowm 2018-01-10
From the Swedish government's website:
Sweden as the rape capital of Europe/the world
Claim: Sweden has the highest number of rapes per capita in either Europe of the world
Even though many people try to claim this, it is pure lies. While the numbers might make it seem like Sweden has a lot of rapes (which still doesn't make it the rape capital of the world no matter what way you look at it), there are a couple of factors that skew the numbers.
Explanation: Statistics are different between countries and cannot be straight up compared
The first and most impactful one is that Sweden has a much wider definition of rape in crime statistics. The numbers that people use when comparing Sweden to other places also include sexual harassment among other things, and they also count every single incident separately. What this means is that if someone raped their spouse every day for an entire year that would count as 365 rapes, whereas most countries would count that as one single offence (if the countries even count inter-marital forced intercourse as rape). Swedish victims also have a higher tendency to report the crime than people from other countries, which makes it so that the number of hidden crime is lower in Sweden.
Sources
The Swedish government have themselves responded to this claim, and the BBC have also made a fairly detailed article on the matter.
The development of the number of rapes in Sweden and its relationship with immigration
Claim: The number of rapes have increased due to the recent European migration crisis
There is no denying that the number of rapes have increased in Sweden, and that is not entirely due to the redefinition of rape, but it also not a result of the recent wave of immigration.
Explanation: While the numbers have increased, many people ignore context
Here is the official statistics regarding what share of Swedes were the victims of sexual crime last year according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, and this includes everything from rape to indecent exposure. As you can see the numbers are up to 2.6% in 2016 (4.1% for women), but what you might notice is that the increase started in 2013, so there is no way to directly correlate this to the recent influx of immigrants.
Swedish police also don't record the ethnicity of criminals, so there is no way to pinpoint exactly what group of people are behind the increase, What can be said though is an argument that the government itself has made in the same page as mentioned before. They refer to a study from Stockholm University that has concluded that the main factor when it comes to crime among immigrants is the socioeconomic conditions that they grew up in. Unfortunately there are no studies regarding third generation immigrants due to the lack of third generation immigrants from outside of Europe in Sweden, so we can't draw any conclusion when it comes to long term effects of having a foreign background.
Sources
The article from the government didn't link to a certain source, and the only thing I can find online is articles referring to a study from 2011 which seems to be the one referred to by the government. It was conducted by Jerzy Sarnecki, possibly Sweden's most famous criminologist, and observed people who graduated primary school in the Stockholm region.
Addendum
Jerzy Sarnecki has also published another study in 2016 on the same subject, where he mentions three factors that could skew the numbers. Those are discrimination toward immigrants in the judicial system (which would increase the tendency to report crime if an immigrant is the suspected perpetrator), conditions in the country of origin and conditions in the recipient country. Simply looking at the conditions that these people lived in in Sweden already shows that the socioeconomic factors cause twice as many people to commit crimes, which indicated that the country of origin might not be the main issue, but instead the condition in vulnerable areas in Sweden, which brings me to my third slightly related point.
No-go zones in Sweden
Claim: Sweden has multiple no-go zones
While we're at it I might dispel this notion aswell. Supposedly Sweden has a bunch of areas where the police don't go and where criminals control everything.
Explanation: Sweden has a bunch of so called "vulnerable areas" that experience a higher level of social unrest and alienation
Once again I refer you to the government article, but these areas are in no way as bad as some people make them out to be. I personally used to live right next to one of these areas and would regularly walk through there day and night, and I know many people who lived in the areas with no fear to their own safety, men and women. The Wikipedia page on these areas is pretty good, even though certain sources they use have been heavily critizised in Sweden (especially [3]). I'm gonna leave it at that since it wasn't the main focus of this comment.
Sources
Here is the official police report on the matter, which states the following criterion when it comes to categorizing these areas:
Summary
Sweden is facing many issues. Things have gotten worse, and something has to be done about it, but that doesn't mean that Sweden has more rapes than equivalent countries or that Sweden is less safe than other countries (I seriously spoke to people who compared Sweden to Syria and Somalia). Sweden is still a safe country experiencing high economic growth.
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Vulnerable area
Vulnerable area (sv: Utsatt område) is a term applied by police in Sweden to areas with high crime rates and social deprivation. In the December 2015 report, these areas numbered 53. In the June 2017 report, these totalled 61.
All the areas are situated south of the town of Gävle and most most are areas constructed during Million Programme (MP), although there are towns north of Gävle having MP areas they do not experience the crime rate of some southern MP areas.
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