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Wasn't there a pathfinder god that gave you +1 to cooking if you traumatized a child? Hell of a trend going on in tabletop. I heard next month Games Workshop is going to release official material on Necron bacha bazi.

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Being on a sex offender registry sounds a lot like being a felon. No matter who you are now, people (rightly or wrongly) judge you and discriminate against you for actions you committed in the past. Entire spheres of public influence are denied to you, for little positive benefit to anyone else. Just because you've done something bad in your life doesn't mean you're A Bad Person and you can't ever change. What are we, Puritans?

/u/CharaNalaar Pretty sure not wanting convicted kid diddlers around more children doesn't qualify anyone as a puritan. Sorry you won't be able to play your childrens card game anymore.

Background checks are also transphobic apparently. https://i.redd.it/co9zo4fmcp901.jpg

Why, hello! Thanks for completely misunderstanding what I said!

So how many children have you fucked?

2300 Sophisticated kids

The ability to exclude felons and sex offenders from every part of life is a great benefit to normal people. You are completely misrepresenting the fact that felons and sex offenders tend not to change and are a problem wherever they go.

I'm pretty sure there is absolutely zero incentive for a felon to reform if there is no incentive to reform. Great logic.

If they don't change, it's justified. But there's a difference between "tend" and "never". Someone in /r/MagicTCG was claiming "never", and that's just absurd.

And of course they'll never change if they're never given the opportunity or assistance that is required to do so.

Pedophiles are sick twisted creatures who will never change and should just keep to their assigned corners of the world like /r/drama

As someone else already said, how can a felon reform if society ostracizes him for a mistake he made, with no chance to redeem himself?

The justice system is almost set up to encourage recidivism and ruin lives.

Being kept out of everything wasn't a good enough motivation to prevent them from committing felonies in the first place. Do you really think that letting a child molester judge a card game tournament is what's going to let them turn things around?

I recommend you give a felon their much-wanted second chance and see how long it takes them to screw it up.

Being kept out of everything wasn't a good enough motivation to prevent them from committing felonies in the first place. Do you really think that letting a child molester judge a card game tournament is what's going to let them turn things around?

A) This is a serious misunderstanding of what drives crime. Poverty drives crime, many societal factors drive crime. Just because some kid gets a bad roll of the dice in life and makes a mistake doesn't mean his entire life should be over. And this is the fundamental problem with the justice system - it's focused on punishment rather than rehabilitation. Think of the irrationality here. What good is the justice system if the people we release just end up there again, after carrying out another crime, because they have no other options?

B) I'm not talking about the magic stuff, just felons in general. Sex offenders that harm children should probably be kept under control.

It would be great if the justice system could turn criminals into normal people, but as you say there are other factors that we really can't expect the justice system to fix. If poverty and other "societal factors" cause someone to be a criminal, we would somehow need prisons to magically turn poor people into rich people.

We depend on prisons and the post-prison shame of the felony to keep people out of society for as long as possible. When they're incarcerated they can't hurt anyone else, and afterward we can shuffle them into poor parts of town where again they won't victimize normal people as much.

It would be great if the justice system could turn criminals into normal people, but as you say there are other factors that we really can't expect the justice system to fix. If poverty and other "societal factors" cause someone to be a criminal, we would somehow need prisons to magically turn poor people into rich people.

This makes no sense. You're literally just saying "they'll be criminals anyway, so we should guarantee it." Do you honestly not see how absurd and irrational this is?

We depend on prisons and the post-prison shame of the felony to keep people out of society for as long as possible. When they're incarcerated they can't hurt anyone else, and afterward we can shuffle them into poor parts of town where again they won't victimize normal people as much.

But you're literally guaranteeing that they WILL hurt someone else using this logic.

and afterward we can shuffle them into poor parts of town where again they won't victimize normal people as much.

I think we're done here.

They're criminals because of pre-existing factors that they suffered from before they were even imprisoned in the first place. Since prison makes them even worse, of course they'll commit more crimes.

That's not how this works, but I've dismissed you as a troll for the "poor" thing.

They're poor for the same reason that they're criminals. They don't have self-control, they don't care about the long term, and they are unwilling to work inside the rules to get what they want. If you come up with some means to solve all of those problems (which are internal to the people themselves, and often reflect an inferior culture they adopted at an early age), they will no longer be criminals and in a society like ours they can generally become middle class.

Claiming that I'm someone you don't like doesn't do anything to change the fact that your argument is hollow and you're unwilling to address these rather simple facts.

idk whose side this matters to but there's some legitimately good small business grant programs for ex felons to get involved in and start their own businesses and being ex-fel is pretty excepted in most trade industries and definitely in the culinary industry. anyone acting like being ex fel is the same game as being a convicted sex offender has definitely never worked with an ex felon a day in their life lol.

As someone else already said, how can a felon reform if society ostracizes him for a mistake he made, with no chance to redeem himself?

This is absurd. No one is saying that all felons need to be treated the same way, what they are saying is that pedos shouldn't be allowed to work with kids. This is not an unreasonable sentiment nor is it going to contribute to say, that ex-heroin junkie not being able to get a job at Dominos Pizza.

What you seem to have said, was in defense of sexual predators who would be in direct contact with children.

These people are still allowed to play magic, they simply aren't allowed to interact with people they could potentially harm, since you know, they have a history of harming people.

Not necessarily. Being on a sex offender registry doesn't mean you're a pedophile. In fact, in some states you can get put on the registry for urinating in a bush.

How unfortunate for a public menace who was flashing his dick in public.

And now you're being an idiot.

How about two teenagers caught having consensual sex in a car? In some states they're sex offenders.

Are you asking me why having sex in public gets you put on the sex offender registry?

If you are going for the children angle at least point to the kids who get charged with pedophilia for texting their boyfriends nudes.

Thanks for the example.

My point is that most of these people do not present a public danger to the community. Why should we restrict their civil rights?

Because allowing kiddie diddlers to be in charge of, have positions of power over, or interact with children at all is going to lead directly to kids getting raped?

I wasn't aware attending private events was a civil right. Did you also defend that Jeremy guy when they banned him over memes and slutshaming?

Nah, Jeremy's an asshole. This is categorical discrimination.

And like I said, most of these people are not "kiddie diddlers".

When you have a more comprehensive list of kiddie diddlers that doesn't include bush pissers as well, maybe they can consider using that instead. Until then...

Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like being disallowed from judging official Magic tournaments would be the least of my concerns if I was on a sex offender registry for pissing on a bush.

categorical discrimination.

Against convicted pedophiles? In 20 years when you can have kids would you want one coaching their little league? They promised they won't publicly show their dicks again, right? They were only drunk, which somehow makes it okay.

/u/I_DRINK_TO_FORGET is wrong, and our lolcow /u/CharaNalaar is correct. I have reviewed your entire conversation and shall now pass judgment.

Society has gone too far with the pedophobia. Pissing in a bush is ridiculously harmless, and maybe pay a $50 fine or whatever but sex registry is insane. Kids texting pictures of themselves is same category, we don't want adults doing child porn rings cause that leads to awful stuff. Teens having sex in cars, texting selfies, pissing in bushes, these have absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia and are "sex crimes" that aren't really crimes. $50 fine or whatever and be done with it. Lifetime sex registry? I bet most people did things as teenagers that would land them on that list.

But I also see where /u/I_DRINK_TO_FORGET is coming from. The collateral damage of all the above situations might be worth it to save one kid from being sexually abused. That's a fair enough attitude I suppose, but society has to balance a lot of things with our laws and regulations, and I do not believe the low tier sexual "crimes" are in any way preventing actual adult-child pedophilia.

I'm happy to have cleared this up for you both, no need to thank me.

You forgot all the rapists.

Obviously they will all be put up against the wall

Quiet, child diddler

why would being a tranny make you a child molester unless you actually are a child molester lmao

The point by that poster (not me) is that in some areas people have pushed to have transgender people classified as sex offenders if they try to use the bathroom of their choice...

It sounds like this would only be a problem if you were running into bathroom stalls with a beard out.

North Carolina would like to have a word with you.

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Exactly. How would they even know and have you sitting around long enough for the cops to get there? Not to mention, there's no enforcement mechanism for those specific laws.

I don't even know.

So your argument against background checks are based on something you can't even see happening. I would call that a pedo sympathizer. So good job, now we know why you're so scared of background checks.

No, the point is that not ever sex offender is a pedophile.

And the only people who will be making these decisions are TOs and stores. So unless they're working for assholes, it's perfectly fine. I'm all for pedos getting their justice, and not worried about a small amount of stores knowing one of their employees might be trans.

I don't think justice is the word for this.

Call it what you want, I don't want pedos playing card games with children. Or you for that matter. You should Keep Yourself Safe.

Now that's a bit much.

Was I being transphobic when I kicked the drunk guy in the women's bathroom out?

Was he attempting to use the bathroom, or molest someone?

He was just a kid who got too drunk and wandered into the wrong bathroom. hmmm

Were you the sober guy in the women's bathroom?

briefly

Were you the sober guy in the women's bathroom?

You don't need background checks to know people who play MTG are pedos.

That's not true, some are just small children

True, but they are also permavirgin so it all balances out.

Male feminists are angry about background checks that keep out rapists. Why is anyone surprised?

In what world would the neck bear mtg players be classified as femenists?

Well, they're feminists in the sense that they really, really cared about someone cyberbullying a cosplayer.

But the cosplayer had Gussy and all mtg players are degenerates that want to fuck it. So did they care about the cyber bullying or the fact that it might make her leave?

They said it was the former, but probably more the latter.

Lol, I went to high school with one of the guys arguing in those tweets. Never expected to see someone I know in a post here. Looks like the election was pretty hard on him.

So was the judge when he was put on the list.

They're more angry about some guy that upset some cosplay cunt than they are about the fucking pedophiles.

I feel like discovering pedos in MtG is like finding out that Dan Harmon was a sexual predator. No one is surprisrised, there's just this vague recognition that it finally, officially, came out.

So you think a shitposter is more likely to actually expose real pedophiles rather than just post a bunch of names of people he doesn't like?

Jeremy does this stuff every time he gets in trouble. It can't just be because he is a shitty person and wizards doesn't want him around, it's gotta be 'A CONSPIRACY AGAINST A HARMLESS COMEDIAN'

Por que le no dos?

Most of these dudes’ proclivities have been well known or at least an open secret

He’s just drawing attention to it

When Boogie is outed as the fake ass beta cuck loser pretending to be everybody's friend, I'll be happy less dead inside.

As to that Jeremy autist. . . slow clap this is how you fuck back a bunch of fun who hard fucked you. I almost have respect for him, but he plays MtG, so he can go fuck himself. I'm a WarHammer 40K slut, I ain't got time cash money for any other faggotry.

The Tau have some seriously cool units and lore. . .Butt! They're Godless, Xenos loving, untrustworthy, space Commies who spit in the face of the God-Emperor, and thus must be spared not but painful retribution!

For The Primarch! For The Chapter! Die For Your God-Emperor!

. . .and so forth.

Fucking nerd

Well. . .yeah.

What's the deal with star trek and card games attracting such delinquents

Isn't Boogie a male feminist? We should be keeping tabs on him when he's finally lost enough weight to leave his house.