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NOBODY HAS TO FORM A COALITION WITH NAZIS, THIS IS WHY SOCIALISTS MOCK LIBERALS

I see the non-aggression pact as a (questionable) way to buy time and prepare a defense from fascism,

Except when we do it.

NOBODY HAS TO FORM A COALITION WITH NAZIS, THIS IS WHY SOCIALISTS MOCK LIBERALS

But the commies actually formed a coalition with fascists in the past

Yup that's what the second line was about.

Oh right, i thought it was a neoliberal saying that.

It's not even a fair analogy this was the 1930s, by that point the communists were arresting, oppressing and killing millions of people. Whereas the holocaust didn't happen yet. So yeah, to a lot of people at that point of time did think the communists were the greater evil.

Then America came along and bitch slapped the fascists and the communists.

I love how triggered filthy europoors get when they have to hear the truth that America is literally the strongest country in the world by far, and did pretty much every single thing in ww2. I’ll give the European peasants some credit for ww1 tho.

I like how you got triggered over people that didn't even get triggered

That was not real communism.

yeah, those tend to go way more sour than other coalitions though

it was never really thought out what would happen when one of them actually won

I mean, if you HAD to choose, at least fascism can usually run a country whilst slaughtering millions of its own people.

Looks at Germany, Italy, Spain and Chile

Mmhmm yeah those definitely didn't murder any of their own people

Did I say they didn't? 🤔

Fuck me I didn't read correctly lol

It’s ok bb

They only collapsed because of constant attacks from western imperialists, not because Fascism is inherently unworkable or anything.

True fascism has never been tried 😤

it was tried and worked better than everything else, to the point where it made Churchill see red

fair enough!

wait, Spain tho

Noted imperialist George Orwell went to Spain to personally crush the innocent fascist groups there and then went back to England to write propaganda about them.

but the only propaganda of his that ever caught on was about Stalin. propaganda about Franco didn’t catch on until after he died.

I thought 1984 was about a fascist state but I guess it's all horseshoe theory at that point.

i thought it was supposed to be about both, though the iconography was a lot more fascist on second thought

And your point is?

They were crushed by global imperialists and never achieved tried real Fascism. /s

Not sure what are you talking about.

• Spanish miracle (1959-1974).

• Miracle of Chile (1980s).

On the other hand, communism.

Spanish miracle

The Spanish miracle (Spanish: El Milagro español, literally "The Spanish Miracle") was the name given to a broadly based economic boom in Spain from 1959 to 1974. It was brought to an end by the international oil and stagflation crises of the 1970s.

Miracle of Chile

The “Miracle of Chile” was a term used by economist Milton Friedman to describe the reorientation of the Chilean economy in the 1980s and the effects of the economic policies applied by a large group of Chilean economists who collectively came to be known as the Chicago Boys, having studied at the University of Chicago where Friedman taught. He said the “Chilean economy did very well, but more importantly, in the end the central government, the military junta, was replaced by a democratic society. So the really important thing about the Chilean business is that free markets did work their way in bringing about a free society.” The junta to which Friedman refers was a military government that came to power in a 1973 coup d'état, which came to an end in 1990 after a democratic 1988 plebiscite removed Augusto Pinochet from the presidency.

In the early 1970s, Chile experienced chronic inflation, reaching highs of 140 percent per annum, under socialist President Salvador Allende, whose government implemented high protectionist barriers, resulting in a lack of foreign-exchange reserves and falling GDP. The economic reforms implemented by the Chicago Boys had three main objectives: economic liberalization, privatization of state-owned companies, and stabilization of inflation.

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That graph on the Chilean GDP actually only goes above the other LA countries after Pinochet gets ousted

>ousted

He never was, though. They held an election, he lost, and he stepped down. The economic reforms put into place under his administration are unmistakably what led to their growth in the early eighties, and a significant amount of policy from that period of time is still in place.

It’s honestly a case to be made against fascism, so I don’t get why the memeboy “””right”””wingers like to bring it up so much.

The economic reforms put into place under his administration are unmistakably what led to their growth in the early eighties

It’s honestly a case to be made against fascism

??

make free market reforms in your country that get rid of government-owned businesses

set up your junta with a law from the beginning that after a preset period of time, a public election will be held

lose election, step down

fascist

Are you b8n, m8?

misunderstanding tings

Spain and Chile did just fine.

Spain and Chile turned out fine tbh. Or at least Spain's problems started after Franco had gone to the /pol/ in the sky.

I mean I'd rather live in Francoist Spain than under the Khmer Rouge. On the other hand Yugoslavia >>> Nazi germany.

https://i.imgur.com/6FWTgAc.gif

2 of those countries were never even fascist.

The only 2 fascist movements in history to ever actually gain power were in Germany/Italy.

Spain is a common mistake, and it was called "fascist spain" but most academics and experts on fascism do not consider it fascist.

More so a right-wing nationalist/conservative dictatorship.

But yeah, fascists can't run a country. Fascism doesn't work and never will work.

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(((own people)))

Why the fuck does it matter? You're fucked regardless.

That's just keeping with tradition. Liberal sided with the fascists over the socialists in Spain, Italy, and Germany.

Pre 1939, Fascists hadn't killed millions of people yet. Meanwhile daddy stalin had racked up a lead kill count that was well into the millions.

I'm talking about during the rise of the fascist regimes in those countries numbnuts. Liberals in Spain, Italy, and Germany sided with the fascists during the power struggles leading up to those regimes

Yeah, I read that, I think the fact the Nazis and Communists jointly invaded big mean Poland means the communists hold that torch when it comes to working with the nazis.

Wtf are you reee-ing about? The fuck does that have to do with this thread?

Fascism, communism , liberalism drama.

Unrelated af, but I absolutely loved Boston Legal. Shame it ended so quickly, but the ending was absolutely fantastic tbh.

I mean it lasted 5 seasons, I dunno if I'd call it quick. I think the ending was so satisfying because they didn't try and milk a few more seasons out of it, they ended it appropriately and while it was still good

I still wanted a few more seasons of Alan and Denny, but yeah, I probably wouldn't remember it so fondly if they stretched it out. Shame it's not more popular here on reddit.

Obviously. The communists in those countries were rioting and trying to force their way into power. Fascism was the only response to communism.

Wasn’t fascism born out of left-wing ideology anyway? The first term came up during Mussolini

Yeah, Mussolini used to be a communist revolutionary. When he abandoned communism, Lenin himself said "When we lost Mussolini, we lost Italy".

Despite its left-wing origins, fascism took a harsh turn to the right.

It was called the third way, and took from the two other way (liberalism and communism).

Kind of not really, it's got some similar foundations but when you swap out the class struggle for a national struggle for your basis of identity you get something pretty different than communism. I don't quite jive with calling it right wing either but that's the limitation of a one deminsional political chart.

Fascism was the only response to communism.

w e w

One of the things on thr communist to-do list is to kill liberals so it's not exactly surprising liberals looked for a way out.

Liberals in Spain, Italy, and Germany sided with the fascists during the power struggles leading up to those regimes

The Wall Street Crash of 1929 heralded worldwide economic disaster. The Nazis and the Communists made great gains at the 1930 Election.[45] Both the Nazis and Communists between them secured almost 40% of Reichstag seats, which required the moderate parties to consider negotiations with anti-democrats.[46] "The Communists", wrote Bullock, "openly announced that they would prefer to see the Nazis in power rather than lift a finger to save the republic".[47]

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The Nazi Party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag's largest party, with 196 seats (33.09%). The Social Democrats (SPD) won 121 seats (20.43%) and the Communists (KPD) won 100 (16.86%).

The Comintern described all moderate left-wing parties as "social fascists", and urged the Communists to devote their energies to the destruction of the moderate left. As a result, the KPD, following orders from Moscow, rejected overtures from the Social Democrats to form a political alliance against the NSDAP.

Commies considered centrists their primary enemy and the hardest to overthrow, but believed that Nazis would be easy to deal with after they helped to topple the social order and cleared the path for the communist revolution. So while the tactical policy was ever increasing bash the fash (eroding said social order, which commies mistakenly believed was going in their advantage), strategically they staunchly opposed any sort of siding with liberals.

I recommend reading the whole of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power btw, the already visible parallels are alarming and it is said that tards who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

Adolf Hitler's rise to power

Adolf Hitler's rise to power began in Germany in September 1919 when Hitler joined the political party known as the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei – DAP (German Workers' Party). The name was changed in 1920 to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei – NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers' Party, commonly known as the Nazi Party). This political party was formed and developed during the post-World War I era. It was anti-Marxist and opposed to the democratic post-war government of the Weimar Republic and the Treaty of Versailles; and it advocated extreme nationalism and Pan-Germanism as well as virulent anti-Semitism.

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the already visible parallels are alarming and it is said that tards who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

Wait, what are the parallels? Who are the Nazis today and who are the commies who side with them?

The nearest thing this days are the morons that run anti immigration parties. They wish they were as cool as the nazis rather than lame.

1. Not side with Nazis, side against liberals.

2. All that talk how bashing the fash is the only way to deal with them, but instead of, I don't know, mass political assassinations they literally punch them and slowly escalate, which does nothing to actually stop or discourage Nazis and everything to make them appear sympathetic.

The only difference is that the economy is good, as soon as the next housing market crash happens shit will hit the fan.

Or a big terrorist attack, comparable to 9/11. Back then the dissenting voices were like, "are you sure you're not retarded, invading a middle-east country that has nothing to do with it?" and no lefties screaming about islamophobia (I think so, I'm not sure). These days it'd be all about how everyone who is upset about that is an islamophobe, and by gawd the lefties will get the second coming of Hitler we all deserve for our systemic social ineptitude.

To be fair, almost anyone sided with fascists at some point.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand neoliberalism

/u/prince_kropotkin is only17, please don't bully him. He will lead the coming anarchotankie revolution from the comfort of his armchair, equipped only with his MacBook and ability to non-stop dunk on neolibs.

To be fair I think that this time communism will work. The one thing it's been missing to operate properly is intersectional feminism and critical theory.

Now that communism will be about the progressive stack as much as it once was about class, there's no way it can fail.

NOBODY HAS TO FORM A COALITION WITH NAZIS, THIS IS WHY SOCIALISTS MOCK LIBERALS

"The nerds picked the preps and jocks over us, so we'll mock them until it makes us the cool kids."

stupid

ALL NEOLIBERALS ARE FASCISTS

THEY BANNED ME FROM MY HOME AND MY PEOPLE

THEY DISRESPECTED ME

THEY FORCE ME TO BE SILENT

THEY'RE ALL NAZIS AND DEGENERATES

THEY WILL REGRET THE DAY THEY EVER DISRESPECTED ME

THEY STOLE MY FREE SPEECH AWAY FROM ME AND MY LIFE

/u/Deity_Of_Darkness, aren't you the one people keep claiming is PK's alt? Not really helping your case here.

Look at the history, it's definitely a PK alt

ALL NEOLIBERALS ARE SATANISTS AND PEDOPHILES

Wtf, I love Neo-Liberals now? And I had my Ovens all fired up... What a pity.

This just proves that everyone is better than the damn commies

Communism is an ideology for pasty cuck mayos and their nigger bulls.

Fascism is an ideology for betas who can't get laid, so they attempt to remove all the competition, but they still can't get laid.

B-but Anti-cucks are the r-real cucks!

Literally every genuine cuck you see online is flirting with communism or some left ideology. Nice try, shlomo.

wrong. If fascists were the other option we'd enter a coalition with communists. RADICAL CENTRISM

Man, liberals sure love the phrase "hindsight is 20/20".

At least fascism only kills people on purpose. Communism kills them on purpose and accidentally.

well thats a hard sell, deliberate murder of millions vs deliberate starvation of millions? which to choose.