Venezuelan is starving to death. American reddit socialists kindly remind him how great socialism actually is!

196  2018-02-03 by Russiangreyman

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I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.

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Plot twist: capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism all fucking suck. They all have their weaknesses and strengths. Positives: capitalism keeps you fat, fascism keeps you fit, socialism allows you to pursue your passions in life, communism has cool uniforms and everyone has great beards. Negatives: they all have injustice ingrained in them, and the only answer is to abolish civilization and live in a cave, surviving on bat droppings.

Sooooooo...... mayocide when?

Soon, Inshallah

If we can do it with nukes then I'll gladly follow you

goddammit

But now the tribe needs to commit suicide, because they just invented technology.

you'd need to kill off 99% of the world population to make anarcho-primitivism feasible.

All I'm reading are upsides.

AnPrims should just go start a colony off in the deep wilderness somewhere. Then we can make a reality TV show out of them all slowly dying of exposure.

AnPrims

start a colony

forming the literal basis of civilization

Radical centrism: The Post

im pretty sure radical centrism on reddit is just “everything is perfect as is and everyone is stupid if they want change”

me in the t shirt

Gussy is overrated.

Radical centrist is more like "everything is fucked and every recommendation from goddamn commies and Nazis will only make it more fucked, we need change and if you agree with their type of change fucking kill yourself retard"

so its someone who criticizes everything but fails to ever have an idea of their own

The quintessential r/Drama participant, so to speak.

Reddit calls me a bad person because i vote purely on LOGIC and who is the better candidate and not who holds what title. Apparently that makes me subhuman

Radical centrists are usually neoliberal retards that think everything is currently fine and support crooks like Hillary Clinton or Macron. This guy just explains that all systems suck due to to human stupidity. At least that's where I think he's getting at.

Here's how Bernie can still win:

the only answer is to abolish civilization and live in a cave, surviving on bat droppings

so socialism

It's actually closer to capitalism since we all abandon each other and forgo cooperation

still better than eating bat droppings. I don't like you bastards anyways

Yeah I like buying useless shit to discard into landfills when I get bored with it, unironically

Shortly after you replied, the user deleted themselves.

What a little bitch

Sounds more like a retarded socialist take on capitalism

Yesterday I was sitting at my desk preparing plans for a telcom company. I had a problem with the lineweights on this new template, so I e-mailed the project manager who sent an updated template to my coworker. My coworker got with me and the other drafter to make sure we were all on the same page about the scope and style for these plans. I then sat down at my computer and opened up the field notes pdf taken by the two man field crew and the RFDS excel file created by two outsourced engineers. I did all this, made a good bit of money for someone with no college education and then came back home, logged onto a computer comprised of dozens of different parts manufactured and assembled by multiple corporations in concert, logged onto reddit.com (a website maintained by hundreds of people working in concert), and went to /r/drama (modded by a dozen retards working in concert) only to hear a 15 year old talk about how teh evil capitalism, we forgo cooperation

Is this supposed to be insightful? It’s not.

You're right. I forgot to add the part where the telcom cooperated with another telcom to share space on the tower. And the part where the two telcoms cooperated with a private property owner to make him a monetary deal so they could located their cell tower on his site. And the part where the telcoms and private property owner cooperated with the local government on permit and building codes. And the part where all of this was coordinated through the county's GIS zoning system.

My only point is that you are retarded and lack anything approaching real world experience.

Good shit imbecile.

Hey that was really rude. You should think about the words you use online and how they affect other people.

Good shit imbecile

Wow, I'm feeling really scared rn. Can someone pls help me? I mean ick and boo and creepy

no u

But who owns the means of bat droppings?

In capitalism you cooperate when there is demand to do so, which is pretty much always, or we'd all be lone hermits living in caves trying to figure out how to invent the wheel by ourselves.

In socialism we cooperate when our overlords crystal balls predict there is demand to do so.

Increase the supply and demand will follow. That's how it works, right?

LOL all socialism is automatically communism guys! NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL

Pretty much, yeah.

Well capitalism depends on cooperation and negotiation and requires people to make mutually beneficial choices in order to survive, so I'm not sure I follow.

Jesus Christ guys what subreddit are we on right now.

Plot twist: capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism all fucking suck.

Based NatSoc!

Capitalism is not require tyranny. There is no need for a government that forces capitalism down the throat of its citizens. Capitalism happens naturally, automatically, by itself.

Even in communist tyrannies, the people are always trading among themselves. Even when trading is punished by death or forced labor, people still engage in free trade.

Because that's how shit gets done.

Lmao what the fuck is up with "people exchange stuff, dats gabitalism" meme.

There is no need for a government that forces capitalism down the throat of its citizens.

What does the word "corporation" mean to you?

A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.

But can we molest a corporation? It's legally a person, so what gives?

And how is it structured? Who does a person apply to to form a corporation?

just get to the point

I don't have one, I just think some people are too sensitive about mild criticism (a joke actually) of capitalism.

Actually to be honest I do have a point, it's interesting that the corporation is very hierarchical, stifles creativity and innovation by employees, is actually an entity created by the government, and is also crucial to the function of capitalism. And yet, some people think the government doesn't force capitalism on society.

I think capitalism in sum is the best form of economy for our values as a society, but it could use some major reforms and a lot more regulation. Political reform is tied to this, i.e. outlawing lobbying (bribery), publicly financed elections with spending caps, etc.

Capitalism could be really great with some improvement, and that may happen if we are willing to be less sensitive to critique of it.

the corporation is very hierarchical, stifles creativity and innovation by employees, is actually an entity created by the government, and is also crucial to the function of capitalism.

you don't need corporations to have capitalism.

it just works better if you have them.

That's a rather expansive definition of capitalism.

What happens when the bat droppings become scarce, and people start starving to death? Is it really an indictment of caves, or just a shitty ad hoc about a shitty existence?

This is some woke shit

Can we make this a new snappy quote?

I have been on a site called nationstates for years, and my country has political, civil, and economic freedom and has a lot of awards for top 1-10% things but it's labeled fascist because i made it a sort of monarchy. It's a peaceful country with a huge population and 100+ trillion economy. But, does that mean i think fascism is good? Nah, human nature doesnt work like a computer simulation. Could it work if you have a solid leader who is benevolent? Yeah, but i'm not screaming for it like college commies. Capitalism is the best we've got

socialism allows you to pursue your passions in life

🤣

Timmy soon found out that with every socialist citizen sitting in a drum circle, there was nobody left to harvest food.

It's spot on, if your passion is waiting in bread lines that is.

fascism keeps you fit

Now I've seen the pictures from the Unite the Right rally so imma have to disagree with you on that one

Don't worry, once theirs enough of us to spare we'll start killing some of the fatties and the rest will get the message.

So you're our new pet retard?

tfw you really really really don’t want to read

socialism allows you to pursue your passions in life,

Only if your passion in life is literally starving to death.

So what you’re says is we divide the world into 4 different governments and rotate people between them we will achieve perfection?

We could just have a perpetual cycle of political and economic crisis that results in each economic system being overthrown every few decades or centuries.

I’m thinking more along the lines of an annual rotation.

Like Rose McGowan's rotating list of producers with benefits? I'm thinking you're onto something.

What about the anarcho-monarchists?

You forgot Islam: perfect justice and freedom in the light of Allah, and no economic problems. But you can’t eat bacon or watch porn so nah.

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Ah, the old "real capitalism has never been tried" argument.

If real capitalism and socialism have never been tried, what the fuck are we doing?

Autistilism

We have what are called, mixed economic systems.

Crony capitalism is real capitalism

🤔🤔🤔 He is starving to death, but has internet access? 🤔🤔🤔

Priorities!

A true redditor.

can you eat wifi?

Wifi taste like bussy.

can i see yours?

that’s interesting.

the ones with vagina AND balls are creepy. only dick, balls and butthole on my cute anime women please.

Yes, but it tastes like cauliflower, so nobody wants to.

The Venezuelan government placed strict price controls on food. For a variety of reasons Venezuelan currency is becoming increasingly worthless.

So people buy food at an artificially low price with worthless money then smuggle it across the border to sell at a higher price for more valuable foreign currencies.

So the Venezuelan government expects domestic food producers and retailers to operate at a loss while unwittingly incentivizing food to be exported.

This creates food shortages. People have money. They have clothes and some even have cars and electronics. There is no food on the shelves for them to buy or trade.

k

People have money? I heard the minimum wages there are like $4 for an entire month.

They have Venezuelan Bolivars, which aren't worth much anymore

So, they don't actually have money unless they are the connected and rich?

Most Venezuelans have worthless bits of paper the Venezuelan government calls money.

People well connected to the government live luxurious lives. Chavez's family is worth billions:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dailycaller.com/2015/08/10/iron-fisted-socialism-benefited-hugo-chavezs-daughter-to-the-tune-of-billions-reports-say/

I'm a venezualan in venezulua ama

You cuck or get cucked?

what you wearing?

a vezuzula

lol at the bitcoin people getting in on it.

And then later in the thread...

I used to think the 'free market' was a bunch of nonsense... but after looking studying cryptocurrency I realized that it exists everywhere naturally as independent choices.

tfw simple economic concepts defy your understanding until BITCOIN comes in to explain it to your teen mind

The next step down the road for that genius is "I didn't understand why regulation of the market is necessary until an exchange printed fake crypto, crashed the market, and I lost all of my money."

Tether drama?

BITFINEX IS A LEGITIMATE EXCHANGE AND TETHER HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.

R-right guys??

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Thx. I've been on biz like 24/7

I like the Tinder threads that have been happening, pretty entertaining and distracting from the massive drop desu

I only put $100 into crypto recently so I'm just happy I didn't throw a few thousand at eth like I was contemplating

The market moved up today. Ask yourself WHY would the market move up if tether and bitfinex weren't legit. DUH!

USDT recently fired their auditor too, which means they are so good at running their business they don't even need an audit!

FUDders BTFO

Thanks FUDsters for the cheap tether! The real bubble is in USD! I'll be happily using bitfinex as I wave to you guys from the moon!

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At least they got it at some point.

Reminds me of a thread where a privileged mayo kid gave "advice" ta a venezuelan man telling him just to escape the country by foot or mine crypto to make money

good idea. another way to make some quick cash is donating blood plasma, maybe he could do that to supplement the crypto.

nice trolling

Let me guess: He's starving because of "State Capitalism"?

NEVER. BEEN. TRIED.

Will State Capitalism's reign of terror ever end?

I don't know which is spicier...this or that AnCap who was like "Why don't lazy Venezuelan scum just buy a mining rig and ride Bitcoin to the moon if they don't want to be poor?"

ELI5 why the world doesn't devote 100% of computing resources to mining bitcoin and become rich forever?

Because they're all stupid plebs who yield to FUD and never HODL.

This is good for Bitcoin.

literally who. there's no drama

OP is a retard who didn't link directly to the drama mentioned in the title.

Here's some drama that started because someone said Trump is a revolutionary.

that /u/Portmanteau513 guy is adorable:

Uh...Denmark?

Denmark has fewer business regulations than America, probably lower corporate taxes as well. They also deport all their "refugees" in Denmark, and have border controls to Germany!

The only supposedly "socialist" thing about Denmark is that income taxes are high, but that's not socialism.

have border controls to stop them immigrating illegally from Sweden and Germany

Not with Sweden

Border controls at the land border with Germany currently work on a spot-check basis, with motorists stopped at random to show passports.

To be fair, you don't need to protect people from leaving Sweden. The land of milk and honey for doing nothing gives economic refugees only a reason to go there not leave. There is a reason the firebombing rape and chants for death to Jews happen there.

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

huh?

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

come again?

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

What?

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

I don't understand what you're trying to say

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

I still don't understand what you're trying to say

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

Pardon?

what are the chances that you’re the same person that would unload a barrage of “not socialism” memes when people say similar things about Venezuela

All those dustbowling rednecks and okies back in the day didn't really appreciate how awesome capitalism is while they ate their yucca root.

But tbf yukka is a great source of easy food in the starting game. Also has good hydration and cooling abilities when you craft yukka juice.

However it's their fault for living in the desert biome. Everyone knows the forest biome is a better place to live.

Maybe they got tired of the ridiculously easy start of the forest biome and wanted an actual challenge. Plus if you start out in the desert biome you have easy access to shale to make gasoline.

This is why you live close to the desert biome but still in the woods biome.

TBH I don't know how you play around your plains biome Turing into a desert biome over the course of a few seasons

Fucking gamers make me sick making light of such a dire situation

Politically minded people are worse. At least gamers accept that they aren't making it any better.

ffs I read all the top comments and I found no drama... can anyone link me to the drama comments?

nice we got autists on both sides of the poltical spectrum there

Communist mayos will be the first to die.

The fucking bitcoin clowns convincing starving man that his Monopoly money is the solution

Inb4 "b-but it wasn't real socialism!!"

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Awwww yeah!

How do you know they're Americans? You don't even know

What?? Youre telling me 20 year old pseudo intellectuals on reddit dont know what they're talking about?!? Preposterous.

Do you know how often Venezuela, or a system like Venezuela's current system, was mooted by socialists as an ideal system in the past ten years?

Never. They base their whole system on oil production, and the yankee gringo fascistas are doing everything to strangle them so their oil companies can grab the oil. It's so remote from the socialist ideal that mentioning it has become a fallacy, Argumentum ad Venezuelam.

get fucked.

/u/Stalin1Kulaks0 have you ever thought about moving to vene? You could live the dream.

"Next time will be different"

Canadian here. So does the entirety of Europe just not exist as a working example of socialism anymore or do most Americans just ignore it?

Europe is not socialism. It’s many different types of hybrids of capitalism, nationalism, and social democracy.