IT'S NOT A CRASH YOU FUCKING SPASTICS IT'S A TEMPORARY BLIP. HODL AND THINGS WILL BE FINE!

159  2018-02-04 by shanewater

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I still don't understand what the hodl people are waiting for. If you sat on your coins when it hit 16k waiting for a better payout you're retarded and deserve your gains being siphoned off.

That's the genius thing: if people sold at their peak they could have DOUBLED their bitcoins, bought their bitcoins at half the price or got out with a huge bag of cash.

Instead they didn't so now they gotta hope that it gets to that stage again so they can sell for reals, even though I totally expect it crashing JUST before it reaches it's all time high again because everyone will want to cash out before it crashes again.

But there's a limited supply of coins! They might not be able to buy them back!

Tbh nobody has given me a clear explanation as to what happens when all the coins are mined, like how are transactions done if the coins themselves are used to process transactions?

But considering it apparently takes 100 years for all the coins to be depleted, chances are nobody really knows and everyone will be long dead by the time that happens.

Well I think the theory goes like this: imagine we mined 100% of the gold on earth, the value of gold would continue to increase because no new supply would be entering the market while demand remains stable or increases. The problem I see with this is that gold is a physical tangible asset that can't be magically created out of thin air, bitcoin is magic numbers that can be manipulated and, unless I'm missing something, more can be created at a future date.

There's a tax on every transaction which goes to people updating the block chain to enable it. Bitcoin is dead though if you want real crypto I recommend https://www.cryptokitties.co/ or the Shariah compliant-crypto onegram

damn this appeals to me.

People who mine new blocks get to keep the transactions fees, they just don't create any new bitcoins.

a clear explanation as to what happens when all the coins are mined

I wonder this but about pepe's

The typical mining nets you both the transaction fees and block rewards, the block rewards will eventually run out while the transaction fees will stay, so miners would technically always have an incentive to mine.

Another interesting solution which some coins have tried is simply doing away with mining completely, and instead when you want to send a transaction you have to also verify some other transactions.

and instead when you want to send a transaction you have to also verify some other transactions.

This sounds like a great idea, lol

I believe IOTA is a real world implementation, if you want to look at how it works in practice.

Tbh nobody has given me a clear explanation as to what happens when all the coins are mined

Well, the system break down. But it's no matter because in five year or so, hacking bitcoin will be more valuable than mining them, due to the growing complexity of mining.

hacking bitcoin

Oh no, it's retarded.

most people in this thread saying the crash was obvious are complete morons.

Lol. A volatile as fuck shit broke down. Who could have expected that.png

"Broke down"

A "money" that vary by 10% everyday is not usable.

Sure it is, I've used it. But crypto volatility is a short term thing.

But crypto volatility is a short term thing.

Lol. PoW is inevitably instable by its very nature.

And PoS is shit as a money because "rich" user can steal the stuff of everyone else.

Neither of thise claims is true.

lol

The fact that you know nothing about blockchains won't make their issues disappear.

The fact that you know nothing about blockchains won't make their issues disappear.

You made very dubious claims and didn't defend them. PoW is not unstable, it's ridiculous to claim it is and PoS isn't the rich "stealing" from the poor, It's a poor understanding of the system.

PoW is not unstable

LOL

O O L O L

Username relevant.

Making false transactions of bitcoin toward you if you prefer.

Nothing changes, block rewards become 100% fees.

Tbh nobody has given me a clear explanation as to what happens when all the coins are mined

Shit man, nobody has been able to even given me a clear explanation of what Bitcoin does that gives it value. Thats never slowed these people down, not one bit.

what Bitcoin does that gives it value

It's value comes solely from the fact that people are willing to buy it. There isn't even an abstract value like fiat money has.

Which still leave me confused as to why people are willing to buy it. Is this just another example of how right PT Barnum was?

People don't understand economics.

It's value comes for people agreeing to use it as currency, and on top of that the limited supply and the blockchains various uses, like functioning as a ledger for every transaction done with the currency.

Fundamentally all currency or trade mediums receive their value from people agreeing that they're useful, on top of other uses the currency might have (like how gold is useful for other uses within the economy, which is what actually makes gold not that great as money, the optimal currency should be as disconnected from the economic activity it's facilitating, crypto does that with less downsides than fiat tbh).

(and unfortunately most governments are too retarded to let the economy simply run and have people use whatever currencies they'd like)

REEEEEEEEWWWWgulation

But for real, Crypto is a retarded and won't catch on.

It'd blow your mind to go on eBay and see what kind of stuff like baseballs carry Huge prices for a signature when it has no real value

People pay what they want to for things. News at 11.

People pay what they want to for things. News at 11.

I understand why a collector and fan might want and value a rare baseball that was involved in a significant play. Why someone would want and value Bitcoin is still a mystery to me. I understand the get rich quick scheme aspect of it, but for it to be sustainable it needs some value beyond that.

Because they believe the future of currency means WE control our money, not a middle man like a bank or PayPal.

Do you not know why Bitcoin was started?? If you choose to be uneducated then it's no wonder you are confused on why others value it.

Because they believe the future of currency means WE control our money, not a middle man like a bank or PayPal.

But thats not how Bitcoin works at all. Just look at the splits that have already happened.

Its as if the biggest Bitcoin proponets dont even understand how it works. I can still remember one of the big talking points about Bitcoin's value was how it is anonymous, which is hilarious since it absolutely is not.

Do you not know why Bitcoin was started??

Actually I dont. Could you explain?

Bitcoins are literally beanie babies reborn.

I've got a friend still making money off these stupid cryptocurrencies by buying the dip, selling when it pops back up, and then buying when it dips again as it crashes into the abyss. Its fucking hilarious watching the HODL people.

People were calling the top at 6k, 7k, 8k... All the way up to ~20k.

Smart investors sell off portions on the way up to realise gains.

Looking at the price movements in retrospect and saying "if you bought here and sold there you would have doubled your money" is retarded.

You could reliably predict the movements of any market you'd be a near-instant trillionaire.

That's the genius thing: if people sold at their peak they could have DOUBLED their bitcoins, bought their bitcoins at half the price or got out with a huge bag of cash.

Which is what pretty much every *coin trading bot I've ever seen does, because it has the highest chance of turning a profit.

It's not your panzi scheme if people sell before you, so you need to keep up your "milti-leveled marketing".

I thought the same thing at like 1k though. It's totally arbitrary, that's the whole thing of it

But those people would have been able to get a 20k payout. Which would make all the people who sold at 16k look pretty retarded.

Looking back with hindsight and pretending it was obvious to everyone is pretty retarded. Especially when you don't even get the numbers right.

It was pretty obvious the meteoric rise was not normal, 16k sticks out in my mind because it was the number I cashed out at. I could have probably waited and got more, but I also could've been sitting there hoping it hits 10k again like the hodl crowd.

you could have waited & gotten much more

Or much less, I'm totally at peace with it.

Not a lot more, that was actually a good time to cash out

Tbh you were one of the smart ones, it hit 15k so quickly that people decided to wait for 20k instead of cashing out at 15k like they originally planned and ended up getting fucked as it never hit 20k.

Wtf is this autistic “hodl” thing anyway

Hold

No fucking shit guy. Why is it spelled like a fucking 12 year old bit coiner trying to get people to buy into their pyramid scheme. Explain the meme you fucking extra chromosome

lol

Basically a coiner spelled it wrong and they ran with it because the only thing comforting them in the darkness is forced memes. See also "to the moon" and "blowstamps"

Hold

On for

Dear

Life

Gay

People thought the same thing when it hit $1 and every large increment since.

Nah. Bitcoin is done. People are starting to realize that crypto is mostly a scam

I know a guy that bought right around 17-18k thinking it would go to 40k by next year.

Interesting, i have some premium investment opportunities for your friend.

Please tell me more and let me sign here in this white paper and give it to you for you to make the contract

Bitcoin is full of people who don't understand finance trying to claim bitcoin is completely immune to everything bad and its just going to rocket up forever. There are articles on CNN and posters by comments and some other articles around of people claiming $100,000 per coin within the next decade.

the amount of delusion has been staggering. It's all just the greater idiot theory. you buy a bitcoin with the expectation a greater idiot will pay more for it later

tbh I have about 100 bucks in it. Kinda like if you bought $100 of Microsoft stock in 1930 you'd be a gazillionaire now

Wanna buy some premium hillside Martian real estate?

1 million acres. 1 cent per acre. PM me.

Hat depends, is there an HOA?

john mcafee swears he will eat his dick on live tv if it doesn’t reach $1,000,000 by 2021

John promises a lot.

To be fair, his dick is probably rotting off because of his questionable 'lifestyle' so I'm pretty sure he's not worried about people calling him on this.

i mean i know he’s gonna weasel his way out of it & his followers won’t care but i wish there was a way to legally enforce promises like this

$100,000 per coin within the next decade

It's possible though. But I best it'll last 2 hours and then a lot of people will kill themselves the days after.

It’s not delusion, it’s dishonesty. Their livelihoods depend on them getting more people to buy bitcoin

Tbf 40k is a conservative guess if it continued it's trend.

I'm pretty sure after this crash retards will keep dumping their money in it, it doesn't seem like it's over yet.

This "crash" dropped it back to levels it was at waaaaay back in. . .November.

The trend clearly wasn’t going to continue

If you think you can predict that then you're not better than the people who thought they could predict it would continue. And if you're very confident about that I can show you how to short bitcoin.

I did predict it. Spent weeks earning everyone in the bitcoin sub

Post your leveraged short? And the bitcoin sub is full of morons.

I’m not buying into your scheme. Get lost

Do you know it will go down and there are ways to easily make money off of your prediction if it turns out true but you refuse to do so.

That’s called gambling. It’s pretty much impossible to predict the short term patterns if you’re not in the know. I call tell you where it’s going long term though.

So open a short position. If you can predict where it will be in 1 year It's easy money.

It will be worthless in a year

You can short bitcoin on the CBE if you don't want to deal with actual crypto exchanges. Shorting is a relatively simple process, I'm willing to walk you through it if you're so sure on this call.

I’m not buying your buttcoins. Move along.

I'm not asking you to. Shorting is the opposite of buying.

MOVE ALONG

Oh so you just talk a big game but won't put your money where your mouth is?

I’m not putting my money anywhere near bitcoin

How would like to invest in my prolapsed anus? We have no bubble in anusville.

To explain it simply, shorting is when you sell a borrowed security to make money off of it when it falls. If it goes down, you make money.

Probably a warhammer nerd

Nothing that says it can't or won't. It's extremely volatile, it can explode or it can crash - it doesn't really mean anything because it's entirely unregulated. Yet "1" bitcoin is still worth over $8000 US dollars, that means it's shit. /s

1 buttcoin is only worth 1 buttcoin.

Plenty of people did, which is why the whales decided to unload

What are you telling me Chuck E. Cheese tokens are worthless 🤔

Hey, you can get some tickets with those.

Tfw ur magic beans are worthless

Chuck E. Cheese tokens have more real value than bitcoin.

Currently holding a bunch of alts and shitcoin. I have no emotion left, I hope they all crash and burn. 🔥💳🔯

What price you buy at

Just a reminder, the suckers aren't those who have been screaming HODL for the last year but those who are saying "I bought at 15k+".

We should admire the early adopters for keeping the scam running for so long.

Do not mock the pharaohs for they are the top of pyramid ascending to the heavens. Mock those at the base

Well ya.

The ones who bought at 15k+ are also screaming HODL

No lol the ones screaming HODL are the guys who bought at 16k and they’re shitting their pants right now

Damn, it's still going down? I thought it would level out at 8k

Hasn't broken 8k yet, but its imminent (as of writing this post). Down 10% in the last 24 hours and no signs of stopping.

bitcoin on suicide watch

Every morning when I check bitcoin prices it feels like Christmas Day all over again.

Yes, it shows no signs of slowing down and will most likely go below 8k by the week’s end.

Prepare for the imminent suicide notes of idiots who spent their life savings on Chuck E Cheese tokens

$7,400 as of right now

r/bitcoin on suicide watch

Tbh all crypto coins seem useless, can anyone actually explain why an altcoin would actually have a real world use when any tech industry would just mimic the tech of whatever coin without needing to pay a cut to the altcoin?

The whole purpose is no trust transactions. I can make a RMDBS based transactable coin in like 5 minutes, and tie it to a credentials system in like 2 hours. The problem with that is now you have to trust me. I have to be trusted to not steal people's money, to not print my own money, etc. Some coins also provide complex programmatic transaction protocols, like eth, but this isn't a requirement by any means.

And there lies the problem, would you rather trust an anonymous person or would you rather choose a bank which has operated for 70+ years and operates under strict banking rules?

Because every single fucker involved is using it for a get rich quick ponzi scheme instead of actually BUYING things with it, like you would with a real currency.

For years, everyone's heard that Wall Street is stupid and worthless and serves no value. These bright shining stars reminded all of us why professional investors exist.

For years, everyone's heard that Wall Street is stupid and worthless and serves no value. These bright shining stars reminded all of us why professional investors exist.

Yeah what you mean is why wall street is regulated. Wall street knows that they could scam greedy chumps easily. they would get fucked over if they did though.

Nah I don't. Madoff went to Club Med of prisons and he ran a Ponzi scheme.

I bought things with it a few years back, when transacting cost cents rather than 40 dollars or whatever. BTC has essentially lost it's use case because the fees are too high.

also RE trusting the financial services industry. Ha. Ha. Ha. There is no chance of me regularly transacting with the banks as an intermediary unless they are the ones holding liability risk. That's why I buy everything on credit.

Disclosure: I work in said industry

Wait for the lighting network and you can rethink that comment.

Lightning network is garbage

would you rather trust an anonymous person or would you rather choose a bank which has operated for 70+ years and operates under strict banking rules?

You're not trusting an anonymous person, it's a trustless transaction that's the entire point.

The only case i can think of where it benefited a tech company to jump on is Crypto Kitties. They're basically digital beanie babies and some people are trading them for insanely stupid prices. But as for the actual company, they jumped into the ethereum blockchain and at one point accounted for 25% of all the traffic. Really pissed off ethereum users and miners since digital cat breeding was slowing down their blockchain (lol)

. Really pissed off ethereum users and miners since digital cat breeding was slowing down their blockchain (lol)

So they dont want people to use it?

Banana coin looks promising...

I can't wait for despair

yeah once it breaks through a few key milestone prices ($8000 and also its 200 day moving average level) there's going to be a glorious amount of drama

It’s hard to jump out of your moms basement

they never realised that all the fake confidence and arrogance around bitcoin was just worried people trying to get new people to buy into it before this happened

and yet they STILL didn't sell at 18k because they wanted it to get to 20k. So the end result is tons of new guys getting screwed, legacy bitcoin hoarders getting screwed out of a ludicrous payout and everyone really scared about bitcoin's future.

It's delicious.

Tbf it did hit twenty

Legacy bitcoin hoarders are definitely not getting screwed. If you bought in at $10 it doesn't really matter if the price is $20k or $10k, you've still made more money than many others make in a lifetime.

Nor are they scared of bitcoin's future. They have been through multiple of these bubbles, there's nothing special about this time.

If you bought in at $10 it doesn't really matter if the price is $20k or $10k, you've still made more money than many others make in a lifetime.

When the price hit $.05 though theyre going to feel mighty silly!

a heap of morons jumped on a ponzi scheme near its peak at 15k to 18k and now that its crashing because they've run out of greater idiots to buy into the ponzi, they have to scream HODL!! and BUY THE DIP!! because otherwise they're fucked

I..i dont even know how this works. What's mining? How do you mine crypto money? Is it real money, like after youre done mining you can have it transferred to your bank? I just.. I have no idea.

its a bunch of incel autists who run everything on linux and play games like factorio to feel smart (rick and morty as well of course) who think they can take jews on at their own craft theyve spent thousands of years manipulating.

I decided to sell my imaginary internet currency back to traditional investments, now that many services are dropping bitcoin or ether based purchasing.

Here's how bitcoin could still win.

Who could've thought that the neo-liberal wet dream of a completely unregulated market would fall flat on its face?

libertarian*

I english good.

Every libertarian tbh, that's the point of market, some shit fails and some succeeds.

[author here] cheers! this is about the drop on Thursday/Friday, and applies to today's. If you know what the charts mean, it's like an action thriller movie for really boring people.

I dont know what the chart means.

How did you find my post?

the blog has referer logs

I obsessively read ALL of reddit grepping for my name

Idiots sell at this point but smart people buy.

Idiots sell at this point but smart people buy.

This maxim only holds true when trading in items that have some sort of value.

Its a circlejerk joke retard.

Well its clearly not a very funny one. Perhaps next time rather than getting upset you should focus on sharpening your wit?

I blame the Jews.

So it was meant to be a currency, but it's literally being treated as a pure investment and not a currency. I have a feeling shit hasn't completely hit the fan yet.

How can I buy the dip if the dip never ends?