The correct answer to the question is Matthew 19:12
"For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others--and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as eunuchs, is in fact, GNAA/eunuchs, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNAA plus eunuchs. eunuchs is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNAA system made useful by the GNAA corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNAA system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNAA which is widely used today is often called “eunuchs”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNAA system, developed by the GNAA Project. There really is a eunuchs, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
eunuchs is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. eunuchs is normally used in combination with the GNAA operating system: the whole system is basically GNAA with eunuchs added, or GNAA/eunuchs. All the so-called “eunuchs” distributions are really distributions of GNAA/eunuchs.
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
Neither the call nor response pasta were written by people being serious. The first person is not RMS and the second person is not some guy that knows Linus (though variations also pretend to be Linus). The pasta was made up by people making fun of their arguments. The entire thing is parody. Interjection
It implies being gay is a cause, meaning you choose being gay. Also giving a text with no direct mention of gays is giving the sense you want, meaning the text could refer to a million things. Basically your seriousposting is retarded and probably born of your live for men (emoji here).
This is assuming transsexuality and homosexuality equate, when they don't. You're completely missing the actual arguement by boiling it down to lust for the same biological sex. In this case, it's someone born with a female mind in a male body. They go on to live asa female, of course they love men. But that's not why those who are genuinely gender dysphoric transition, and if there is an element it's not all consuming. Too often people who don't understand the issue boil it down to either sex - the only place women are relatively more powerful - or power, depending of the person is MtF or FtM, because they only allow themselves to see things at an extremely face value. Or it's possible they only think in terms of power. But I'm being generous
I have an Uncle who completely disowned me because I asked him what God thinks of his divorce when he was going on a Facebook tirade about fags and how they're going to burn in hell.
XD you too?? I am being unirinic when I say my uncle also disowned the, well, entire family really, because he bashed on gays religiously, zealously quoted the Bible, but couldn’t really come to terms with his divorce (biblically).
This is an /r/drama thread about a post in /r/islam discussing a ban on LGBT events in Turkey. Unfortunately, the linked /r/islam thread was heavily brigaded by /r/SubredditDrama. I'd like to note that this comment praising Allah for the ban was upvoted, while a comment replying to it about "liberals" (liberals is referring to Muslims "liberal" about their religion) was heavily downvoted. This is just proof that SRD is full of uncultured mayos.
The same two people (the one praising Allah and the one who commented about liberals) praised Allah for the decision in the follow-up thread.
Anyway, I don't really know why I wrote the stuff above, but I'll just link a couple of threads where they discuss LGBT rights. This one isn't that bad, but my family is Muslim and I grew up in a Muslim community, so I may have normalized things differently. For example, talking about how gay people are degenerates that are corrupting society is pretty common, while preaching about how they need to die doesn't really happen (in Western countries, anyway).
I found this exchange funny:
But supporting homosexuality is a different thing. If I there was a vote to put gay marriage legal, I would choose no
Would you like homosexuals to vote for Muslims to have equal rights?
Here's another thread about LGBT in general from /r/islam. I skimmed it and it seems like it's a little worse than the previous one, because I see people talking about the punishment for sodomy on top of the usual "it's a sin" stuff. In addition to that, I've come across the OP of that thread multiple times on reddit before, and I know that he supports the death penalty for homosexuals and apostates.
This was a response to someone asking about trans people:
If you want to know the Shi'a position, you'll have to ask in r/Shia. From a Sunni standpoint, it does not matter if you take a scalpel and lop off your penis, you're still a male. The ahkam relating to men still apply to you.
You probably shouldn't go and submit those links to SRS, though, because they're pretty old.
To answer your question, I don't think /r/ShitRedditSays has a problem with comments from Islamic fundamentalists being posted there for criticism, but they're not really interested in doing so (see: 3 relevant comments from /r/islam in the 7 years SRS has existed). I do understand why, though; it doesn't affect them as much as the actions of Christian fundamentalists and far-righters. That's also the answer to the oft-asked question "Why do liberals criticize Christianity, but not Islam? 😭😭" I know that a good portion of the people asking that will also say "AMERICA FIRST!" when asked about DACA and accepting refugees. It's really the same principle.
This is just conjecture, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of SRS feels uncomfortable criticizing Islam from a fear of making the "not-so-fundie" Muslims feel alienated. I guess there's a reason for that too; conservatives are retarded and don't know how to criticize a religion and its fundamentalists alone, so they end up reeing "DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS!" at some point, which does tend to alienate people.
That said, I'm pretty sure that at least 70%, if not more, of the Muslims on /r/islam are unapologetically homophobic and transphobic, so if SRS has some kind of positive opinion of /r/islam in general, they probably haven't browsed it much. I don't see how you can have /r/drama, /r/GenderCritical, and /r/TrueChristian on your baddie list, but somehow think that /r/islam isn't a sub full of terrible people.
Awesome post to be fair. Thanks. My point was more about someone (looking like a troll) going into a religious sub and asking for instance "which Surah can I use to defend homosexual and transgenders?". I bet a lot of the SRS/SRD crowd would attack the person asking the question (assuming it's an islamophobic troll trying to rile people who don't take much prodding to react badly to those subjects). Whereas when it's christians, the religious people are the assholes in their view.
The person you are defending has been trolling r/Christianity for a couple of days now. Go check out their profile. Reddit delivers painful and swift justice sometimes.
I can't deny my feelings have been bruised, but more than that, I've been encouraged by the overwhelming support the silent majority has given me on r/Christianity.
It is true that a few users have become a bit...obsessed with following me around and harassing me; treating my sexuality as some sort of personal vendetta against them and the "True" Christian faith. They have been chastised and disciplined by the mods according to the rules and I'm confident they will no longer be an issue.
Overall, however, mine has been a positive experience that has taught me a lot.
Just like any other organization, the Christian church is learning to deal with change. And change is hard! But we are a family who is united by our love of Christ and one another, and I know we will emerge from this change as strong as ever.
You are welcome to stop by the sub anytime. We welcome all people from any set of beliefs, any sexuality, etc.
We, as Christians, love you. It can hurt us when you mock us (cuz we're just human) but it's our desire that you come into a relationship with God and join the family.
Well, judging from the response of /r/Christianity to your presence and the amounts of downvotes you constantly get there it's kinda hard to believe that "overwhelming support" and acceptance part.
Why don't you join Church of Satan instead? I'm pretty sure those guys will actually accept you for who you are and will not judge you like these judgmental pricks.
As I said above, the support I receive is often "silent", as it comes in the form of private messages, as well as upvotes on comments that call out others for being rude and harsh.
I do not blame people for being wary of vocalizing their support. Those in the church who demonize homosexuals and transexuals are LOUD and persistent (and can often be nasty)! Who needs that stress when they go on reddit just to enjoy some pleasant discussion?
Again, this is an ongoing growth and change process. And that process can be painful. Christians (like all other humans) fear change, and often fight back against it. No doubt that many people find it easiest to simply downvote content that makes them uncomfortable. (I also believe, by the way, there are some "sock" accounts that pile on downvotes to advance their agenda.)
But things are much better now than they were in 2008. And much better in 2008 than they were in 1998. And so on, and so on. Things are improving!
We're making progress as the body of Christ. And that encourages me, even on days when my feelings are hurt by a few folks who are too scared or insecure to deal with these inevitable changes.
Especially when you clearly see people that have gotten their feelings hurt.
You'd think that tranny would get more hurt feelings when /r/Christianity wants to burn it at the stake, compared to a few mocking comments on /r/Drama.
I will be honest, I do not agree with the ideology that learningtoforgive has. I have made that known. However, I recognize that the user is no less of a human being, and that the life that he possess is still valuable.
Mocking someone is never good, especially if it's related to a person's struggles.
However, I recognize that the user is no less of a human being, and that the life that he possess is still valuable, and so all must be treated in a fair, and respectable manner.
See that's where we differ (that and the whole God thing).
Look, I too do not agree with transexuals and the whole LGBT thing. It is against my beliefs and values. And I believe that it is a mistake.
But everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. And so what if I told you that no one has to pay for their mistakes anymore because someone already paid for us?
And so what if I told you that no one has to pay for their mistakes anymore because someone already paid for us?
I feel like you guys were less "live and let live" a few centuries ago. I live near where the Cathars used to before the Catholics decided their lives of ascetism and poverty deserved a violent end. Why not the trannies?
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1 Wild_Child19 2018-02-07
The correct answer to the question is Matthew 19:12
"For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others--and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
I'm not a Christian, but it seems that /r/drama knows the bible better than /r/Christianity
1 Tagesausbruch 2018-02-07
Only the parts of the bible explicitly approved by white evangelical fundamentalists are allowed on American online forums
1 zergling_Lester 2018-02-07
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as eunuchs, is in fact, GNAA/eunuchs, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNAA plus eunuchs. eunuchs is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNAA system made useful by the GNAA corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNAA system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNAA which is widely used today is often called “eunuchs”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNAA system, developed by the GNAA Project. There really is a eunuchs, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
eunuchs is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. eunuchs is normally used in combination with the GNAA operating system: the whole system is basically GNAA with eunuchs added, or GNAA/eunuchs. All the so-called “eunuchs” distributions are really distributions of GNAA/eunuchs.
1 Real_LinusTorvalds 2018-02-07
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
Thanks for listening.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-02-07
Lol, someone was butthurt enough to set up a bot that seriousposts in response to a pasta making fun of the person it pretends to be from.
1 FedoraWearingNegus 2018-02-07
You realize the response is a copypasta too, roght?
1 zergling_Lester 2018-02-07
Yeah, that's what I said? It's not like the bot could compose unique heartfelt responses every time.
(and I knew that it was a bot because it replied to me within a few seconds, I probably should have said that)
1 improbablywronghere 2018-02-07
Neither the call nor response pasta were written by people being serious. The first person is not RMS and the second person is not some guy that knows Linus (though variations also pretend to be Linus). The pasta was made up by people making fun of their arguments. The entire thing is parody. Interjection
1 WTFusesdonpls 2018-02-07
It implies being gay is a cause, meaning you choose being gay. Also giving a text with no direct mention of gays is giving the sense you want, meaning the text could refer to a million things. Basically your seriousposting is retarded and probably born of your live for men (emoji here).
1 National_Transsexual 2018-02-07
This is assuming transsexuality and homosexuality equate, when they don't. You're completely missing the actual arguement by boiling it down to lust for the same biological sex. In this case, it's someone born with a female mind in a male body. They go on to live asa female, of course they love men. But that's not why those who are genuinely gender dysphoric transition, and if there is an element it's not all consuming. Too often people who don't understand the issue boil it down to either sex - the only place women are relatively more powerful - or power, depending of the person is MtF or FtM, because they only allow themselves to see things at an extremely face value. Or it's possible they only think in terms of power. But I'm being generous
1 WTFusesdonpls 2018-02-07
What kind of late pasta is this.
1 ConfirmableVelvet 2018-02-07
For the kingdom
Not for being a degenerate faggot and indulging your self pleasures.
1 PalacesOfMontezuma 2018-02-07
When quoting Scripture fails, fall back on direct communication with Jesus.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Totally legit Gender Dysphoria, not at all a schizo...
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-02-07
In that thread, heretic attempts to interpret scripture. lol.
1 NardDogAndy 2018-02-07
I have an Uncle who completely disowned me because I asked him what God thinks of his divorce when he was going on a Facebook tirade about fags and how they're going to burn in hell.
1 Lawgustmarck 2018-02-07
XD you too?? I am being unirinic when I say my uncle also disowned the, well, entire family really, because he bashed on gays religiously, zealously quoted the Bible, but couldn’t really come to terms with his divorce (biblically).
Wanna stone some uncles?
1 theRagingEwok 2018-02-07
yes brother, i will pick you up in my hilux after fajr prayer inshallah
1 aggressiveshitpost 2018-02-07
unsheathes Katana
butchers his testament, which explodes in a bloodbath
"You tipped your last fedora, kiddo"
1 ConfirmableVelvet 2018-02-07
Divorced who remarry burn with the fags
Divorced and celibate are called to try to reconcile the marriage
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
I found that lolcow from SRS. Now I wonder how SRS would feel if someone asked the same thing from /r/Islam?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/7vqhl8/transwoman_in_rchristianity_asks_people_to_be/
1 shallowm 2018-02-07
I decided to check out how many posts /r/ShitRedditSays had from /r/Islam, and it turns out they had 4 (I guess that's relatively small in number). One of them was someone brigading and insulting Muslims, so I'll exclude that one. The rest are as follows:
Promotion of pedophilia
Killing gays
Opposition to same-sex marriage
This is an /r/drama thread about a post in /r/islam discussing a ban on LGBT events in Turkey. Unfortunately, the linked /r/islam thread was heavily brigaded by /r/SubredditDrama. I'd like to note that this comment praising Allah for the ban was upvoted, while a comment replying to it about "liberals" (liberals is referring to Muslims "liberal" about their religion) was heavily downvoted. This is just proof that SRD is full of uncultured mayos.
The same two people (the one praising Allah and the one who commented about liberals) praised Allah for the decision in the follow-up thread.
Anyway, I don't really know why I wrote the stuff above, but I'll just link a couple of threads where they discuss LGBT rights. This one isn't that bad, but my family is Muslim and I grew up in a Muslim community, so I may have normalized things differently. For example, talking about how gay people are degenerates that are corrupting society is pretty common, while preaching about how they need to die doesn't really happen (in Western countries, anyway).
I found this exchange funny:
Here's another thread about LGBT in general from /r/islam. I skimmed it and it seems like it's a little worse than the previous one, because I see people talking about the punishment for sodomy on top of the usual "it's a sin" stuff. In addition to that, I've come across the OP of that thread multiple times on reddit before, and I know that he supports the death penalty for homosexuals and apostates.
This was a response to someone asking about trans people:
You probably shouldn't go and submit those links to SRS, though, because they're pretty old.
To answer your question, I don't think /r/ShitRedditSays has a problem with comments from Islamic fundamentalists being posted there for criticism, but they're not really interested in doing so (see: 3 relevant comments from /r/islam in the 7 years SRS has existed). I do understand why, though; it doesn't affect them as much as the actions of Christian fundamentalists and far-righters. That's also the answer to the oft-asked question "Why do liberals criticize Christianity, but not Islam? 😭😭" I know that a good portion of the people asking that will also say "AMERICA FIRST!" when asked about DACA and accepting refugees. It's really the same principle.
This is just conjecture, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of SRS feels uncomfortable criticizing Islam from a fear of making the "not-so-fundie" Muslims feel alienated. I guess there's a reason for that too; conservatives are retarded and don't know how to criticize a religion and its fundamentalists alone, so they end up reeing "DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS!" at some point, which does tend to alienate people.
That said, I'm pretty sure that at least 70%, if not more, of the Muslims on /r/islam are unapologetically homophobic and transphobic, so if SRS has some kind of positive opinion of /r/islam in general, they probably haven't browsed it much. I don't see how you can have /r/drama, /r/GenderCritical, and /r/TrueChristian on your baddie list, but somehow think that /r/islam isn't a sub full of terrible people.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Awesome post to be fair. Thanks. My point was more about someone (looking like a troll) going into a religious sub and asking for instance "which Surah can I use to defend homosexual and transgenders?". I bet a lot of the SRS/SRD crowd would attack the person asking the question (assuming it's an islamophobic troll trying to rile people who don't take much prodding to react badly to those subjects). Whereas when it's christians, the religious people are the assholes in their view.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-02-07
https://imgur.com/gallery/2B0gYq8
1 buttermyself 2018-02-07
/u/texastemplars 1 corinthians 69 lol
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
/u/learningtoforgive just to be clear, you do understand the Bible is not a collection of magical formulas?
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
Huh?
What is this sub?
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-07
Church study group
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
I don't think so.
1 keepittropical 2018-02-07
Inshallah all are welcome here
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
It's the best of Reddit all linked in one place.
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
It looks more like you are all making fun of people. No thanks!
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
We wouldn't dare. Good luck finding the Bible verse that will turn you into a woman and stop people from ever doubting it.
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
I needn't "turn into a woman" as I was born one. And I answer only to my Father in heaven. I'm not concerned about being doubted or mocked by men.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
I mean if you're going to be delusional in a religious way, why not tack on gender issues?
With whom you apparently disagree on the way he made you.
That's a good attitude given your situation.
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
God makes no mistakes. He made me how He saw fit.
Who am I, the clay, to criticize the potter?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
How do you know how God meant you to be?
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
He makes no mistakes. God, by His nature, is perfect.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
I get it. But if I feel God wants me to rape my hot downstairs neighbor, do I do it? It's his plan, he made me have that idea.
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
God doesn't tempt us.
I'm afraid I'm done with this conversation as I sense you are being inauthentic and are just mocking my faith.
Jesus loves you. I do too. I just have reached my threshold for being made fun of this week.
Peace.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
On a wednesday? Are you going to hide under a rock for the rest of the week?
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Please stop mocking this person.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Please stop mocking this person.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
For being a christian or for being a tranny?
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
For any reason, even the ones you stated.
What good does it bring you to mock someone?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Are you really asking that question on /r/Drama?
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Absolutely I am.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Absolutely I am.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
You seem to have difficulty to grasp the whole idea of this subreddit.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
I do not, but it does not make it right. Especially when you clearly see people that have gotten their feelings hurt.
1 Hail_the_IT_Goddess 2018-02-07
The person you are defending has been trolling r/Christianity for a couple of days now. Go check out their profile. Reddit delivers painful and swift justice sometimes.
1 Masturb_Chyiff 2018-02-07
Dude, it's his (/u/learningtoforgive) sock, smh...
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
I'm not trolling, and I have no "sock."
I can't deny my feelings have been bruised, but more than that, I've been encouraged by the overwhelming support the silent majority has given me on r/Christianity.
It is true that a few users have become a bit...obsessed with following me around and harassing me; treating my sexuality as some sort of personal vendetta against them and the "True" Christian faith. They have been chastised and disciplined by the mods according to the rules and I'm confident they will no longer be an issue.
Overall, however, mine has been a positive experience that has taught me a lot.
Just like any other organization, the Christian church is learning to deal with change. And change is hard! But we are a family who is united by our love of Christ and one another, and I know we will emerge from this change as strong as ever.
You are welcome to stop by the sub anytime. We welcome all people from any set of beliefs, any sexuality, etc.
We, as Christians, love you. It can hurt us when you mock us (cuz we're just human) but it's our desire that you come into a relationship with God and join the family.
1 Hail_the_IT_Goddess 2018-02-07
Yeah, I'd call you a cunt but you lack warmth, depth, and a vagina. That block button works both ways baby.
1 Masturb_Chyiff 2018-02-07
Well, judging from the response of /r/Christianity to your presence and the amounts of downvotes you constantly get there it's kinda hard to believe that "overwhelming support" and acceptance part.
Why don't you join Church of Satan instead? I'm pretty sure those guys will actually accept you for who you are and will not judge you like these judgmental pricks.
1 learningtoforgive 2018-02-07
As I said above, the support I receive is often "silent", as it comes in the form of private messages, as well as upvotes on comments that call out others for being rude and harsh.
I do not blame people for being wary of vocalizing their support. Those in the church who demonize homosexuals and transexuals are LOUD and persistent (and can often be nasty)! Who needs that stress when they go on reddit just to enjoy some pleasant discussion?
Again, this is an ongoing growth and change process. And that process can be painful. Christians (like all other humans) fear change, and often fight back against it. No doubt that many people find it easiest to simply downvote content that makes them uncomfortable. (I also believe, by the way, there are some "sock" accounts that pile on downvotes to advance their agenda.)
But things are much better now than they were in 2008. And much better in 2008 than they were in 1998. And so on, and so on. Things are improving!
We're making progress as the body of Christ. And that encourages me, even on days when my feelings are hurt by a few folks who are too scared or insecure to deal with these inevitable changes.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
You'd think that tranny would get more hurt feelings when /r/Christianity wants to burn it at the stake, compared to a few mocking comments on /r/Drama.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
I will be honest, I do not agree with https://www.reddit.com/u/l
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
I will be honest, I do not agree with the ideology that learningtoforgive has. I have made that known. However, I recognize that the user is no less of a human being, and that the life that he possess is still valuable.
Mocking someone is never good, especially if it's related to a person's struggles.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
See that's where we differ (that and the whole God thing).
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Elaborate on that.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
I don't think that.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
What do you think then?
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
What do you think then?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
That we could do with a new Inquisition. Let's burn some degenerates. Keep the rest in line.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Killing the transexuals. Why do you feel that way? That they should be killed?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Just a few. But like burned publicly. Make an example. I feel like it might convince a lot of other people to become normal. Like furries.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Look, I too do not agree with transexuals and the whole LGBT thing. It is against my beliefs and values. And I believe that it is a mistake.
But everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. And so what if I told you that no one has to pay for their mistakes anymore because someone already paid for us?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
I feel like you guys were less "live and let live" a few centuries ago. I live near where the Cathars used to before the Catholics decided their lives of ascetism and poverty deserved a violent end. Why not the trannies?
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
No one deserves a violent end. Not you, not me, not the LGBT community (even if we disagree with them).
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Back in the day, the Catholic Church strongly disagreed.
1 LeChacal101 2018-02-07
Is this the reason why you are mad at God?
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
Being raised completely atheist I'm no more more mad at God than Santa.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-07
So are you a vase now too?
1 HINDBRAIN 2018-02-07
more like a basketcase
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-02-07
I mean, he did fuck up day and night so hard in the opening lines of genesis that he had to go back and do it again 14 verses later...
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-07
Church study group
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-07
kek <--- this one
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1 Ravensthrowit 2018-02-07
I feel like Christianity would be all about trannys given their obsessions with Adam’s apple
1 YourLocalMonarchist 2018-02-07
holy fuck, nearly 400 comments and only 3 upvotes.
1 IAintThatGuy 2018-02-07
They know their drama.
1 Pepperglue 2018-02-07
u/learningtoforgive you clearly have much to learn if you get so butthurt about not getting the answer you want on a subreddit.