I've just seen just how entitled white people tend to be and I'm suggesting we collectively pull our heads out of our asses and stop acting like the world is all about us.
/u/electricmink serious question. Can you read the last part of what you posted (starting right where it says I'm suggesting) and reflect on that? What are your thoughts?
In our society, we are so used to being on top and in charge that the election of a half-black President was enough to drive more than half of us mad with fear. We've created institutions that cater to us and disadvantage people of other races, then pretend the playing field is fair, ignoring the board we built into the system. Others complain and we turn a deaf ear, poo-poohing their legitimate problems and hand-waving then away because we're too content with things as they are to be bothered.
Pointing any of this out isn't hate - it's like taking a friend aside and saying "you know, when you behave like that, your being a jerk" in the effort to help them be better. We can be better to other people than we have been, and we should be better than we have been. That's all.
Bu then... how will this particular incident where high school cancels musical after white student lands lead role is going to help with that?
I mean, even if you are half correct about your diagnosis – which can be deconstructed from various angles – the choice of cure is only producing more division and cements current situation.
This is very true. I remember it like it was yesterday. It was around 1880 iirc when all the white people got together they decided that bandages would be the colour of their skin, and the skin colour of people of colour
By that point old Mary Todd was really off the rails. She showed up at the party totally jacked up shine and booger sugar. She was semi-coherent and rambling something about electric snakes in the sky. But it was always worth it to invite her.
Like it was a conscious decision to treat "white" like the default? To not even think about "race" until we're trying to describe someone with a different skin tone? These attitudes run deep in our society, they do real harm, but when anyone points them out, the bulk of us that aren't harness by these biases just sheriff out shoulders and turn our backs....or try to make jokes of it as you do.
I mean, I'm sure most of us could explain it away as the market catering to the fact that the demographics of the country are overwhelmingly of the skin colour of the bandages (including the spics)
Btw, to people who think I'm exaggerating. This is one of the examples of white privilege pointed out by Peggy Mcintosh, who is essentially the founder of this idea of white privilege
If it was purely markets at work, you'd think that a pale bandaids would be hard to find in much of Philly (or any other large concentration of black people)...just think, corporations ignoring markets of millions of people like that by not bothering to cater to them.
Systemic bias is real. I love in a majority black community, and I see it at work every day.
Of course it's real, the ones you peeps focus on are just massively overstated when you factor out associative variables and is entirely subject to context. What systemic discrimination exists in detroit is different to what you would face in Silicon Valley, which is different to what you would face in Rural Tennessee
No they wouldn't lol Even if we assume that the black population are all dark skin, Asians, whites & hispanics share very similar skin tones with "skin colour" bandages
if there was a market for black coloured bandaids wouldn't someone have made a successful product yet? I guess they wouldn't be able to get the costs down as low as big corporations can but if the market really wanted a black coloured bandaid I'm sure there would be a large enough market willing to pay 20% more for a product like that and that should provide enough capital to grow the market and push the costs down.
pale bandaids would be hard to find in much of Philly
Wasn't AIDS pretty common in Philadelphia? I've seen a movie with Tom Hanks once, he's a funny guy, I laugh everytime at his hysterical homosexual shtick
Yeah I'm calling bs still. Im from a black people place grew up with and around black folk. The thing about these kinda places, southern, urban, black places. Is that they whole thing is run by and for black people. Black mayor, black teachers, black cops, black preachers. You are fake, foreign, or some kind of inner city Neapolitan yankee. Down south, where we got places 80% black people like where I'm from we don't think like that or have those problems. You on some other shit.
Sure. Meanwhile you think about how 44 of the past 45 presidents could really have benefited from a good tan, and the way more than half of the paler part of the country freaked over the one president who wouldn't?
"No no no, you don't get it. in 20XX this time the president is going to cause nuclear war and also make all of people in my community report to FEMA camps to be murdered!!!"
I agree, these people do not know of the horrible things that plague our proud POC community since Drumpf became president. White people now hunt me down with rifles and whip me. I was walking down the street the other day and some guys in KKK costumes lynched me and left me for dead and then I died.
Please elaborate on this ever present vauge threat but do it without calling everyone Nazis and claiming something equivalent to the Holocaust is inevitable.
Btw when are you losers (statistically speaking) going to focus on attractive privilege? Because that is wayyyyyyyy more impactful in modern society than basically every other form of systemic discrimination
Hmm so majority of whites voted for Obama and then get terrified by what they had done, voted for him again just to make sure and then got terrified and pushed to trump because they hate blacks? You don't think there is an explanation that comes easier than that?
Obama never won the "white" vote - 55% of white voters vited McCain, 59% voted Romney. Both Obama's terms were met with a great deal of howling and racist dog whistles, from "birther" conspiracies to a million different varieties of calling him "uppity" (oh, I'm sorry, "elitist" - arugula, really?)
And now we have a fucking white supremacist in office.....
The idea that the war on drugs began due to a racial aspect is massively overstated and the only evidence for it is a hotly disputed single quote from a former advisor that was released 22 years after the interview where it was stated took place. For one it was an international movement, which is a bit much to target african americans. It also was politically motivated, given the desire for the administration to get tough on crime
You know, if it means that white people have so much advantage in everything and I'm disadvantaged so much just by being a POC, I might as well become white. No sense in remaining nonwhite and oppressed. So how do I get started? Are plastic surgery and name change enough or is there more to joining the ranks of whites?
I was just saying to Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos at the last White Males Uber Alles meeting how awesome it is being on top and in charge, I sure do love ruling the world right alongside those guys.
we are so used to being on top and in charge that the election of a half-black President was enough to drive more than half of us mad with fear.
Not supporting the millionaire white woman or the millionaire Jew is clearly an anti-black racial thing. Obama being president even managed to drive people who voted for Obama to be president mad with fear to the point they voted for Trump!
We've created institutions that cater to us and disadvantage people of other races
So, like every civilisation that has ever existed.
ignoring the biases we built into the system.
You mean the biases that help more people like those that built the system in the first place.
Pointing any of this out isn't hate
The hate that people are talking about are leftist soyboys who constantly whinge about white privilege because they love to imagine themselves as "one of the good ones."
I'm sure you've heard of (and probably used) the term "house nigger"? Well, you're a house wigger.
it's like taking a friend
Except that the people that your insults are aimed at aren't you're friends and you have no basis to speak on their behalf. They're further away from you, culturally, than leftists of different ethnicity are. I'm pretty racist, but the opposite of me culturally and politically isn't a brown person, it's leftist virtue-signalling people like you.
And let's be honest, it has nothing to do with trying to better people and everything to do with giving yourself a smug sense of satisfaction at the expense of people you despise.
We can be better to other people than we have been
Of all the races in the US at the moment, are whites the most racist? Even in the top ten? I doubt it.
Are you attempting some kind of parody here? Because it's honestly hard for me to believe anyone could have their head wedged so far up their ass as to seriously believe what you've written here and actually survive the experience.
Seriously....tossing out words like "soyboy" while decrying "virtue signalling" (sheer hypocrisy there, since wailing about "virtue signalling" is in itself pure virtue signalling....). Wow.
And the projection! A touch of "everyone is secretly racist", while suggesting I'm out to feel smug here? Whewlad, have a look in the mirror!
As for your last paragraph, you really price my point for me. Wow.
But by making fun of the Prom King are you really paying "Respect" to the kid in the wheelchair? Does it make him feel better about himself? Does it make him value himself? Does it heal his bones? Does it compliment attributes of the kid? Or highlight his achievements (like surviving a bus)?
The answer to all of the above is no. Mocking one side doesn't respect the other, anymore then drama existing is us providing respect to the rest of reddit. I wasn't even talking about social acceptability. Though frankly that statement is retarded as all hell, it's not the prom kings in schools being bullied, it's the kids in the wheelchair, seriously what fucking bullshit retarded world does that guy live in? Let me guess he's another "genius" comedian tossing the hat in the ring of real world politics even though they obviously don't live in the fucking real world.
I just posted that image because when you said "SRS are such racists they can't even comprehend black people being in control of anything," you reminded me of that tweet. He's caught up in his "compassionate" for black people that he compares them to invalids.
that statement is retarded as all hell, it's not the prom kings in schools being bullied, it's the kids in the wheelchair
His point is that it would be more morally acceptable to make fun of someone who's privileged than someone who is underprivileged. I disagree with that, but it's hardly a moronic idea. The way he put it is just so inadvertently offensive to black people that it's hilarious.
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1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
/u/electricmink serious question. Can you read the last part of what you posted (starting right where it says I'm suggesting) and reflect on that? What are your thoughts?
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Is the thought not clear enough?
In our society, we are so used to being on top and in charge that the election of a half-black President was enough to drive more than half of us mad with fear. We've created institutions that cater to us and disadvantage people of other races, then pretend the playing field is fair, ignoring the board we built into the system. Others complain and we turn a deaf ear, poo-poohing their legitimate problems and hand-waving then away because we're too content with things as they are to be bothered.
Pointing any of this out isn't hate - it's like taking a friend aside and saying "you know, when you behave like that, your being a jerk" in the effort to help them be better. We can be better to other people than we have been, and we should be better than we have been. That's all.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-02-08
Ok, fair enough.
Bu then... how will this particular incident where high school cancels musical after white student lands lead role is going to help with that?
I mean, even if you are half correct about your diagnosis – which can be deconstructed from various angles – the choice of cure is only producing more division and cements current situation.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
I was reacting generally to the statement made, not to the specific situation they were commenting on.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-02-08
Would you please then comment on the specific situation?
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
This is very true. I remember it like it was yesterday. It was around 1880 iirc when all the white people got together they decided that bandages would be the colour of their skin, and the skin colour of people of colour
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-02-08
By that point old Mary Todd was really off the rails. She showed up at the party totally jacked up shine and booger sugar. She was semi-coherent and rambling something about electric snakes in the sky. But it was always worth it to invite her.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Like it was a conscious decision to treat "white" like the default? To not even think about "race" until we're trying to describe someone with a different skin tone? These attitudes run deep in our society, they do real harm, but when anyone points them out, the bulk of us that aren't harness by these biases just sheriff out shoulders and turn our backs....or try to make jokes of it as you do.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
I mean, I'm sure most of us could explain it away as the market catering to the fact that the demographics of the country are overwhelmingly of the skin colour of the bandages (including the spics)
Btw, to people who think I'm exaggerating. This is one of the examples of white privilege pointed out by Peggy Mcintosh, who is essentially the founder of this idea of white privilege
1 aqouta 2018-02-08
Sweden confirmed Nazi racists.
1 LemonScore 2018-02-08
lol give it a generation or two.
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-02-08
They'd still be anti-Semites, just with a tan.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
If it was purely markets at work, you'd think that a pale bandaids would be hard to find in much of Philly (or any other large concentration of black people)...just think, corporations ignoring markets of millions of people like that by not bothering to cater to them.
Systemic bias is real. I love in a majority black community, and I see it at work every day.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
Of course it's real, the ones you peeps focus on are just massively overstated when you factor out associative variables and is entirely subject to context. What systemic discrimination exists in detroit is different to what you would face in Silicon Valley, which is different to what you would face in Rural Tennessee
No they wouldn't lol Even if we assume that the black population are all dark skin, Asians, whites & hispanics share very similar skin tones with "skin colour" bandages
1 cleverseneca 2018-02-08
I grew up around systemic mouse privilege
1 japsock 2018-02-08
if there was a market for black coloured bandaids wouldn't someone have made a successful product yet? I guess they wouldn't be able to get the costs down as low as big corporations can but if the market really wanted a black coloured bandaid I'm sure there would be a large enough market willing to pay 20% more for a product like that and that should provide enough capital to grow the market and push the costs down.
1 zwiebelhans 2018-02-08
Why in the world would you build an entire production line for people in Philly?
1 ProgrammaticallyMark 2018-02-08
lol, I really hope you don't think he was talking specifically about band-aids for Philly residents
1 ComedicSans 2018-02-08
After beating up on Santa, Philly residents don't deserve band-aids.
1 zwiebelhans 2018-02-08
Next youll tell me people in cleveland want different Ban aids too.
1 ProgrammaticallyMark 2018-02-08
I'm not sure about ban aids, but I'm sure at least someone in Cleveland wants different band-aids
1 zwiebelhans 2018-02-08
lol. Im gonna leave that sitting just so your post looks propper.
1 JasonJewnova 2018-02-08
1 aggressiveshitpost 2018-02-08
Wasn't AIDS pretty common in Philadelphia? I've seen a movie with Tom Hanks once, he's a funny guy, I laugh everytime at his hysterical homosexual shtick
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-08
No u don't. Nobody living an a majority black area is crying about bandaids, you dumb bitch.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
It's the attitude, not the bandaids, ya yob.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-08
Yeah I'm calling bs still. Im from a black people place grew up with and around black folk. The thing about these kinda places, southern, urban, black places. Is that they whole thing is run by and for black people. Black mayor, black teachers, black cops, black preachers. You are fake, foreign, or some kind of inner city Neapolitan yankee. Down south, where we got places 80% black people like where I'm from we don't think like that or have those problems. You on some other shit.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-02-08
Yeah I knew you ain't got shit to say, fake punk
1 holy_black_on_a_popo 2018-02-08
White is the default, silly.
That's why we crave the mayocide.
1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
The cognitive dissonance is real.
Please read this sentence over and over then think about what I said to you in my previous post.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Sure. Meanwhile you think about how 44 of the past 45 presidents could really have benefited from a good tan, and the way more than half of the paler part of the country freaked over the one president who wouldn't?
1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
Who gives a shit? Half of the country is freaking out right now about Trump. It's all the same old same old.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
Why aren't lefties trying to do something to prevent the systemic discrimination of orange people? SMH
1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
DADDY LIVES MATTER
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
The fact you don't see the threat Trump represents marks you as one of the coolest entitled people I've been taking about.
1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
R E N T F R E E
1 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-02-08
Fresh new President, same great threat!
1 Neon_needles 2018-02-08
"No no no, you don't get it. in 20XX this time the president is going to cause nuclear war and also make all of people in my community report to FEMA camps to be murdered!!!"
1 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-02-08
Finally, a President I can get behind
1 LightUmbra 2018-02-08
Thank god we'll finally be free of $Community_name.
1 JoshWindows 2018-02-08
I agree, these people do not know of the horrible things that plague our proud POC community since Drumpf became president. White people now hunt me down with rifles and whip me. I was walking down the street the other day and some guys in KKK costumes lynched me and left me for dead and then I died.
1 nqtbty 2018-02-08
Women have always been openly raped in public, but now, in the era of Trump, people believe the women
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-02-08
The fact that you're discussion politics on the internet is a 100% guarantee that you are
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-02-08
The fact that you're discussion politics on the internet is a 100% guarantee that you are
1 yourdeadwife 2018-02-08
Please elaborate on this ever present vauge threat but do it without calling everyone Nazis and claiming something equivalent to the Holocaust is inevitable.
1 whatis0x6472616d61 2018-02-08
I wish I had more than one upvite to give. As a PoC posting from my internment camp I wish more people took this threat seriously.
1 aqouta 2018-02-08
Tanning is bad for you and gives you cancer.
1 SombreroEnTuBoca 2018-02-08
How do you square that with your anti-trans activism?
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Wut?
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
Btw when are you losers (statistically speaking) going to focus on attractive privilege? Because that is wayyyyyyyy more impactful in modern society than basically every other form of systemic discrimination
1 1slumber 2018-02-08
???
also maybe black people like black people the best and white people like white people the best.
maybe it's not an evil system engineered to keep a brotha down
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Look at the Trump voting demographics.
1 1slumber 2018-02-08
Do you think white people were afraid of Obama?
That's retarded
1 aqouta 2018-02-08
Hmm so majority of whites voted for Obama and then get terrified by what they had done, voted for him again just to make sure and then got terrified and pushed to trump because they hate blacks? You don't think there is an explanation that comes easier than that?
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-02-08
Its sexism right?
1 LemonScore 2018-02-08
IT WAS HER TURN
1 holy_black_on_a_popo 2018-02-08
ooga booga if I know...
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Obama never won the "white" vote - 55% of white voters vited McCain, 59% voted Romney. Both Obama's terms were met with a great deal of howling and racist dog whistles, from "birther" conspiracies to a million different varieties of calling him "uppity" (oh, I'm sorry, "elitist" - arugula, really?)
And now we have a fucking white supremacist in office.....
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2018-02-08
The only institution out of balance is the criminal justice system.
And even then it punishes based on class more than race.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
The "War on Drugs", the single biggest filler of American prisons, was racially targeted. Why do you think pot is a scheduled drug in the first place?
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2018-02-08
L2R
And while the crack/cocaine punishments were racially targeted. The war on drugs now effects class more than race.
1 Matthew94 2018-02-08
affects
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2018-02-08
My bad grammar is due to classism.
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2018-02-08
FX
1 Matthew94 2018-02-08
You are a waste of oxygen.
1 GARBAGE_MACHINE 2018-02-08
tru
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-08
The idea that the war on drugs began due to a racial aspect is massively overstated and the only evidence for it is a hotly disputed single quote from a former advisor that was released 22 years after the interview where it was stated took place. For one it was an international movement, which is a bit much to target african americans. It also was politically motivated, given the desire for the administration to get tough on crime
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-02-08
Can you just not read?
1 ahhhhhree 2018-02-08
You know, if it means that white people have so much advantage in everything and I'm disadvantaged so much just by being a POC, I might as well become white. No sense in remaining nonwhite and oppressed. So how do I get started? Are plastic surgery and name change enough or is there more to joining the ranks of whites?
1 keepittropical 2018-02-08
I hear jamaicans be bleaching their skin in an effort to go mayo. If you have the cash you could go for the Michael Jackson make over.
1 nmx179 2018-02-08
I was just saying to Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos at the last White Males Uber Alles meeting how awesome it is being on top and in charge, I sure do love ruling the world right alongside those guys.
1 LemonScore 2018-02-08
Not supporting the millionaire white woman or the millionaire Jew is clearly an anti-black racial thing. Obama being president even managed to drive people who voted for Obama to be president mad with fear to the point they voted for Trump!
So, like every civilisation that has ever existed.
You mean the biases that help more people like those that built the system in the first place.
The hate that people are talking about are leftist soyboys who constantly whinge about white privilege because they love to imagine themselves as "one of the good ones."
I'm sure you've heard of (and probably used) the term "house nigger"? Well, you're a house wigger.
Except that the people that your insults are aimed at aren't you're friends and you have no basis to speak on their behalf. They're further away from you, culturally, than leftists of different ethnicity are. I'm pretty racist, but the opposite of me culturally and politically isn't a brown person, it's leftist virtue-signalling people like you.
And let's be honest, it has nothing to do with trying to better people and everything to do with giving yourself a smug sense of satisfaction at the expense of people you despise.
Of all the races in the US at the moment, are whites the most racist? Even in the top ten? I doubt it.
1 electricmink 2018-02-08
Are you attempting some kind of parody here? Because it's honestly hard for me to believe anyone could have their head wedged so far up their ass as to seriously believe what you've written here and actually survive the experience.
Seriously....tossing out words like "soyboy" while decrying "virtue signalling" (sheer hypocrisy there, since wailing about "virtue signalling" is in itself pure virtue signalling....). Wow.
And the projection! A touch of "everyone is secretly racist", while suggesting I'm out to feel smug here? Whewlad, have a look in the mirror!
As for your last paragraph, you really price my point for me. Wow.
1 Googlaloo 2018-02-08
Out of all the white people in the world, its pasty-faced white liberals I despise the most. Smh fam, maylcide can't come soon enpugh
1 LemonScore 2018-02-08
omg, I literally cannot even right now wow
1 Always_Shy 2018-02-08
You're the gift that keeps on giving
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-02-08
That's a bad analogy in this case. You're not their friend, and you're not helping them be better. You're helping them be cucks.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-08
/u/griffco are you scared of poc? Do you think they're really that spoopy? Thanks for the woke red pill, fellow based pede!! MAGA!!
1 newcomer_ts 2018-02-08
Take that!
1 Starship_Litterbox_B 2018-02-08
https://streamable.com/go31i
1 AFellowCanadianGuy 2018-02-08
Ed, we all know you’re the whitest one here.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-08
Go gag on that maple syrup you moose fucker!
1 AFellowCanadianGuy 2018-02-08
Typical white boy insult. ☺
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-08
Lmao I was kidding. I generally like Canadians!! <3
1 AFellowCanadianGuy 2018-02-08
Thank you. You’re acceptance means a lot to all of us.
1 3134552767 2018-02-08
No one ever tries to yell about white people to show how woke they are.
1 Selfawarenesshere 2018-02-08
SRS are such racists they can't even comprehend black people being in control of anything. Just completely incomprehensible to them.
Just like they think shutting on one race is "respecting" another.
1 DoctorMort 2018-02-08
https://i.imgur.com/pQEz1xg.png
1 Selfawarenesshere 2018-02-08
But by making fun of the Prom King are you really paying "Respect" to the kid in the wheelchair? Does it make him feel better about himself? Does it make him value himself? Does it heal his bones? Does it compliment attributes of the kid? Or highlight his achievements (like surviving a bus)?
The answer to all of the above is no. Mocking one side doesn't respect the other, anymore then drama existing is us providing respect to the rest of reddit. I wasn't even talking about social acceptability. Though frankly that statement is retarded as all hell, it's not the prom kings in schools being bullied, it's the kids in the wheelchair, seriously what fucking bullshit retarded world does that guy live in? Let me guess he's another "genius" comedian tossing the hat in the ring of real world politics even though they obviously don't live in the fucking real world.
1 Zozbot 2018-02-08
zoz
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zozzle
1 DoctorMort 2018-02-08
I just posted that image because when you said "SRS are such racists they can't even comprehend black people being in control of anything," you reminded me of that tweet. He's caught up in his "compassionate" for black people that he compares them to invalids.
His point is that it would be more morally acceptable to make fun of someone who's privileged than someone who is underprivileged. I disagree with that, but it's hardly a moronic idea. The way he put it is just so inadvertently offensive to black people that it's hilarious.
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-08
people still post on srs?
1 aggressiveshitpost 2018-02-08
It's reddit dude. Do you think those guys would have anything better to do or go to?
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-08
sorta figured they all went to cb2 or nega
1 KingWayneX 2018-02-08
Fucking peckerwoods
1 McFluffTheCrimeCat 2018-02-08
/u/sarabink why are you such a moron?
1 shitpost953 2018-02-08
Who even were you trying to ping here? 🤔
1 McFluffTheCrimeCat 2018-02-08
Fixed. Thanks. Some nazi lady.
1 shitpost953 2018-02-08
oh... yea.. that's not allowed... removed... or like... actually just fix it agian and say soemthing nice about the nazi this time.
1 McFluffTheCrimeCat 2018-02-08
Fine. Done.. I'll wait until she gets here.
1 ReBurnInator 2018-02-08
SRS is still a thing? Who knew?