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The fact nobody did anything about this retard is absurd. The kid is literally walking around his backyard in his underwear and a MAGA hat shooting shit.

This didn't seem weird to anyone?

P-shilly isn't a filthy commie, he's just contrary and weird.

It was just a normal tuesday in white america

They called the cops and FBI a bunch, I guess they had better things to do

Yeah, no. the problem is they can't do anything because even crazy people have rights.

It's like if I go to the police and say "this guy is going to try to kill me" I can't get protective custody without an absurd amount of evidence.

the problem is they can't do anything because even crazy people have rights

This might sound weird, but I'm pretty sure people having rights isn't something that should be described as "a/the problem."

It's a problem when those rights endanger everyone else. My aunt, for example, is hilariously mentally ill. She hears "voices" and often claims god is telling her to "purge" certain people she doesn't like.

This bitch was able to buy a gun. She'd have that gun if the rest of the family didn't intervene and take it.

I'm all for rights - but there has to be some fucking limit dude.

My aunt, for example, is hilariously mentally ill. She hears "voices" and often claims god is telling her to "purge" certain people she doesn't like.

Then you follow the legal due process necessary to deprive her, any other crazy person, or violent criminals of their rights. Yes, it's a difficult process. It's designed that way on purpose so that vulnerable people aren't taken advantage of by unscrupulous relatives, corrupt authorities, and/or errors of the legal system.

I'm all for rights - but there has to be some fucking limit dude.

If you describe rights as "a/the problem" it's pretty hard to believe you're all for them. There are limits to people's rights already. "Your rights end where my nose begins," is the old saying, isn't it? Additional limits can be imposed, as you already know because...

It was so hard for us to do anything about her. It was a seriously uphill legal battle.

As it should have been. Depriving a person of their rights isn't a matter to be taken lightly. That's why there is a very serious legal process involved.

Your rights end when other people are in danger.

If you are nuts, you deserve no access to firearms, period.

As the older generations die off, the newer generations will be more open to...

As the older generations die off and the younger generations age, what actually happens is that the bulk of the younger generation gain the wisdom and experience necessary to realize that the older generation was right and things weren't so simple as they believed. People like you have been saying "once the old people die off and we take over it will all be different" for hundreds of years, and while things have changed, they have changed very slowly.

Yeah, you're repeating conservative fan-fiction my man.

I'm pointing out reality, while you're making juvenile insults and referencing The Onion.

You can't exactly arrest someone till they do something

Well they have usually broken many laws by that point

What illrgal activity was he fpong before the shooting?

Thank you, i try real hard

It was BB gun. Probably plastic bbs too since it's not specified to be metal.

Unless you're black, then they will arrest you for looking like the sort of person that would commit such a crime

You can't arrest them, but you can do the ol' "hey guy, we know you're a few fries short of a Happy Meal and we're keeping an eye on you."

Well it wouldn't be anyone besides the Florida field office of the FBI or the local police that would have anything to do with this. Haven't seen anything that would have allowed either to long term psych hold him or jail him long term. What exactly would you like him to have been arrested for?

He was cutting himself. That’s grounds for automatic involuntary commitment.

Budget reasons probably.

According to the paper, DCF's investigation was completed that Nov. 12. The agency concluded that Cruz had not been mistreated by his mother, was receiving adequate care from a mental health counselor and was attending school.

Thanks for link. Since he was seeing a mental health counselor when DCF investigated I can see why they made the decision they did and that's not grounds for any long term commitment just a hold.

Seriouspost: self-harming without suicidal intent is not typically an indication for involuntary psychiatric admission on its own. It depends on the details. The more concerning thing is that, per the story you posted, he was talking about obtaining a gun while doing so; that’s suggestive of a serious risk of harm to self/others and escalation in behavior and at least warrants a psychiatric evaluation though in and of itself may not result in a “long-term” admission.

I’m not sure how things work in Florida, but in my state had someone called the police on Cruz and provided the information described in the story, there’s a near-100% chance he would’ve been arrested and brought to a hospital for psychiatric evaluation. After that, who knows what would’ve happened.

We should just arrest anyone who is weird just to be safe.

This subreddit would get boring quick. WTF would we do without /u/pizzashill?

What do you mean? I do stuff like this all the time... 😤😤😤

Pizzaz, don't act like you've never been to a swing state.

I live in Florida.

Everything is finally clear now.

...is ... is he florida man?

The kid is literally walking around his backyard in his underwear and a MAGA hat shooting shit.

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If you ever visit America, and you're near the DC/Northern VA area let me know and I'll see if I can get my gun nut buddies to hook you up with some range time. You probably won't be allowed to shoot in your underwear, but you will get to go "pew pew," which is fun even if you're wearing pants.

It seems perfectly appropriate to me. This is America for fuck's sake.

The fact nobody did anything about this retard is absurd. The kid is literally walking around his backyard in his underwear and a MAGA hat shooting shit.

This didn't seem weird to anyone?

Um...he lived in FL. That's actually pretty close to normal behavior for that state, especially if you look like a character from a kids movie made by Robert Rodriguez, like this guy did.

isn't that pretty much just the traditional Florida lifestyle

Bue he white tho

Didn't this guy shoot like 17 white people? How is he not r/drama's messiah?

If I ever see a mass shooter, that's what I'm gonna shout!