I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
I don't get why everyone is acting like this is new information or shocking in any way.
In my early "atheist skeptic" days I got really into debunking conspiracy theories. So I'd spend a lot of my time on various conspiracy forums, and I mean I spent an absurd amount of time with these people.
Russia has an iron fucking grip on international conspiracism. What happened is years and years ago Russia realized they didn't have the hard or soft power to compete with the western world and just heavily invested in shit like this.
That's why every major conspiracy website is pro-Russia and rabidly anti-American. It's why RT is cited so often in conspiracy circles. For example, /r/conspiracy had a picture of Putin eating popcorn on their sidebar for over a month.
Russia has created an entire conspiracy movement that loves them and hates America.
There's an entire book talking about these tactics called "Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible."
A relevant quote:
At the end of the table sat one of the country’s most famous political TV presenters. He is small and speaks fast, with a smoky voice: We all know there will be no real politics. But we still have to give our viewers the sense something is happening. They need to be kept entertained. So what should we play with? Shall we attack oligarchs? [He continued,] Who’s the enemy this week? Politics has got to feel like . . . like a movie! The first thing the President had done when he came to power in 2000 was to seize control of television. It was television through which the Kremlin decided which politicians it would “allow” as its puppet-opposition, what the country’s history and fears and consciousness should be. And the new Kremlin won’t make the same mistake the old Soviet Union did: it will never let TV become dull. The task is to synthesize Soviet control with Western entertainment. Twenty-first-century Ostankino mixes show business and propaganda, ratings with authoritarianism. And at the center of the great show is the President himself, created from a no one, a gray fuzz via the power of television, so that he morphs as rapidly as a performance artist among his roles of soldier, lover, bare-chested hunter, businessman, spy, tsar, superman. “The news is the incense by which we bless Putin’s actions, make him the President,” TV producers and political technologists liked to say. Sitting in that smoky room, I had the sense that reality was somehow malleable, that I was with Prosperos who could project any existence they wanted onto post-Soviet Russia. But with every year I worked in Russia, and as the Kremlin became ever more paranoid, Ostankino’s strategies became ever more twisted, the need to incite panic and fear ever more urgent; rationality was tuned out, and Kremlin-friendly cults and hate-mongers were put on prime time to keep the nation entranced, distracted, as ever more foreign hirelings would arrive to help the Kremlin and spread its vision to the world.
The united states has been getting bent over in the disinformation war for as long as there's been a disinformation war.
Countries like China/Russia have an innate advantage in this kind of warfare. They don't have political gridlock because there is only one party in power.
They don't have to worry about censoring anyone, it's expected. This limits our ability to respond to disinformation campaigns.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-02-19
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
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1 incineratechicken 2018-02-19
Better get on it, u/Ed_ButteredToast.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-02-19
I don't get why everyone is acting like this is new information or shocking in any way.
In my early "atheist skeptic" days I got really into debunking conspiracy theories. So I'd spend a lot of my time on various conspiracy forums, and I mean I spent an absurd amount of time with these people.
Russia has an iron fucking grip on international conspiracism. What happened is years and years ago Russia realized they didn't have the hard or soft power to compete with the western world and just heavily invested in shit like this.
That's why every major conspiracy website is pro-Russia and rabidly anti-American. It's why RT is cited so often in conspiracy circles. For example, /r/conspiracy had a picture of Putin eating popcorn on their sidebar for over a month.
Russia has created an entire conspiracy movement that loves them and hates America.
There's an entire book talking about these tactics called "Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible."
A relevant quote:
At the end of the table sat one of the country’s most famous political TV presenters. He is small and speaks fast, with a smoky voice: We all know there will be no real politics. But we still have to give our viewers the sense something is happening. They need to be kept entertained. So what should we play with? Shall we attack oligarchs? [He continued,] Who’s the enemy this week? Politics has got to feel like . . . like a movie! The first thing the President had done when he came to power in 2000 was to seize control of television. It was television through which the Kremlin decided which politicians it would “allow” as its puppet-opposition, what the country’s history and fears and consciousness should be. And the new Kremlin won’t make the same mistake the old Soviet Union did: it will never let TV become dull. The task is to synthesize Soviet control with Western entertainment. Twenty-first-century Ostankino mixes show business and propaganda, ratings with authoritarianism. And at the center of the great show is the President himself, created from a no one, a gray fuzz via the power of television, so that he morphs as rapidly as a performance artist among his roles of soldier, lover, bare-chested hunter, businessman, spy, tsar, superman. “The news is the incense by which we bless Putin’s actions, make him the President,” TV producers and political technologists liked to say. Sitting in that smoky room, I had the sense that reality was somehow malleable, that I was with Prosperos who could project any existence they wanted onto post-Soviet Russia. But with every year I worked in Russia, and as the Kremlin became ever more paranoid, Ostankino’s strategies became ever more twisted, the need to incite panic and fear ever more urgent; rationality was tuned out, and Kremlin-friendly cults and hate-mongers were put on prime time to keep the nation entranced, distracted, as ever more foreign hirelings would arrive to help the Kremlin and spread its vision to the world.
The united states has been getting bent over in the disinformation war for as long as there's been a disinformation war.
Countries like China/Russia have an innate advantage in this kind of warfare. They don't have political gridlock because there is only one party in power.
They don't have to worry about censoring anyone, it's expected. This limits our ability to respond to disinformation campaigns.
they don't value free speech in the way we do.