/r/OldSchoolCool remembers the good ol' days when Detroit wasn't a charred, third world hellscape and argues over who's responsible.

28  2018-02-19 by wokeaspie

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The gays. Let’s just blame it on them. They don’t get enough finger-pointing anymore.

Well, they are the straight, white males of the LGBT community.

So true. I would love someone to tell that to a flamboyant black gay guy, “You’re nothing but the straight white man of the LGBTQ+ community!”

TIL it's actually LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual) now. As a transracial foxkin, this is literally violence.

You forgot the last P (polysexual), you fucking BIGOT!

MRW I can't go a full day without being reminded of how much of a mewling numale my head of state is.

Do people unironically believe race relations were better in the 70s than they are now?

st00dup 1 point 8 hours ago People seemed to get on a lot better before identity politics took over.

In what universe?

Do people honestly believe white people don't play identity politics with the best of them? What was with all the hand wringing articles about angry white dudes after Trump was elected?

Trump ran an entire campaign based 100% on identity politics. The GOP has increasingly become a party based on white identity politics.

The thing is, people don't recognize white identity politics as easily as they do minority identity politics.

Right-wing/white identity politics tends to be more so about "sticking it to the elites" and putting the lowly man on a pedestal, making him feel like he's the victim, and all failure he experiences in life isn't his fault, but the fault of some vague, shadowy group of people.

"the elites."

"the jews."

"The immigrants."

hitler perfected this art.

As Hitler’s use of the word ‘former’ on this occasion suggested, the Third Reich sedulously propagated the notion that all class distinctions had been abolished in the new Germany. ‘We are’, declared Robert Ley in 1935, ‘the first country in Europe to overcome the class struggle.’178 In token of this, many institutions of the Nazi Party made a point of elevating members of the lower classes into positions of authority over members of the bourgeoisie, as in the Hitler Youth, or of subjecting the scions of the elites to the authority of their supposedly former social inferiors, as when university students were sent to labour camps, or schoolteachers were disciplined by ‘old fighters’ from humble backgrounds in their compulsory training sessions. The Nazi students’ attack on the traditional student duelling corps was only one instance of a widespread assault on Germany’s most publicly prominent bastions of social privilege, and - to the disgust of traditionalists like Reck-Malleczewen - it was accompanied by a good deal of egalitarian rhetoric and verbal assaults on the reactionary nature of the class discrimination that the duelling corps so openly practised.

Crucially, the rhetoric was accompanied by actual deeds. The decline in status, autonomy and power of the academically trained professions in the first six years of the Third Reich was real. Traditional institutions like the universities had been downgraded as part of the life-experience of young Germans, and far fewer went to them in 1939 than had done six years before. Small businessmen and white-collar workers saw the social divisions between them and the working class eroded by more than just Nazi speechifying. Aristocrats found themselves elbowed aside in the corridors of power by brash young Nazis from social classes far below theirs. Old-established figures of authority, from doctors to pastors, large landowners to village elders, found themselves under attack. Everywhere, the young, or at least a significant minority among them, seized their chance and asserted themselves against their elders: in the aristocracy, in the village, in the schoolroom, in the university. A new political elite had undeniably taken over. From the top rank of Nazis such as Goebbels and Goring, Schirach and Ley, down through the Regional Leaders to the bottom level of the Block Wardens and Hitler Youth commanders, new men, mostly young, often from unorthodox social backgrounds, sometimes, like Rosenberg for example, even from outside Germany itself, took over the reins of power. Moreover, a whole range of traditional social values had been downgraded: the professor’s prioritization of learning for its own sake, the doctor’s Hippocratic ethic of putting the patient’s interests before everything else, even the businessman’s enshrinement of profit as the ultimate measure of success - all these were swept aside by the Third Reich’s prioritization of war, race and the national community.

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Right-wing/white identity politics tends to be more so about "sticking it to the elites"

Yeah, that's called populism bro. We don't call that identity politics because it already had a name and isn't about "identity" in any permanent way.

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Yes, it fucking is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

There's a difference between populism and identity politics.

Stop. Railing against elites is populism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

Populism is a political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against a privileged elite.

Only a fucking moron would call that identity politics.

It's both you fucking mongoloid. In the context of right-wing identity politics, it's both.

This isn't even controversial, you seem desperate to deny the fact Trump ran an identity politics based campaign. Even if we wanted to throw out the "lowly rural man" narrative of identity politics, we've got the nationality aspect as well.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-end-of-a-republican-party/

In that way, the tea party wasn’t new. Something real has been percolating over the past decade in the Republican base when it comes to race and identity. When looking at the change in the county-by-county vote from 2000 to 2012, one of the most predictive variables for a place becoming more Republican has been the number of people ethnically identifying as “American,” not whether or not a person believes in smaller government or lower taxes. States such as Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia, where a plurality of people identified in the 2000 Census as “American,” are among those that have trended the most Republican since 2000.

You're right this isn't controversial. Not sure why you're struggling with it.

Also, I'm not "desperate", I think Trump is a fucking idiot and have donated to the Democratic party for over ten years now. I'm just not stupid enough to, ya know, be you.

You are stupid. Because you have not even a basic understanding of right-wing identity politics.

There's a reason far-right extremists often label themselves "identitarian."

National identity, racial identity is at the core of these movements.

America, in many ways, is founded on rural identity politics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/upshot/as-american-as-apple-pie-the-rural-votes-disproportionate-slice-of-power.html

In the future, avoid subjects you're uneducated on.

lollllllzzz to me talking about raging against elites being considered populism as opposed to identity politics and you respond with a blurb from 538 talking about...wait for it...immigration and race.

Goodnight, you sad little retarded fuck. Rage angrily about women not liking you and men thinking you're an idiotic chode well into the morning hours.

Like I said, in the future refrain from engaging on subjects you're uneducated on.

Stop downvoting the lolcows.

I don't have the time to teach stupid people things atm, I'll get back to you in a bit, feel free to read the rest of this argument in which I dismantle a like-minded retard.

It can be both.

Always interesting to see how these guys define the "elite" everyone is supposed to be pissed at. It's the educated, writers, etc. Don't want people pissed at the real elite, the ones who want to get or keep power.

Take a picture with some black and white kids.

Wait 40 years.

Show how things were so much better.

People seemed to get on a lot better before identity politics took over.

Considering the trump campaign ran on 100% identity politics...I tend to agree.

/u/TheUserNameMe would you have agreed if he hadn't?

And then, in response to that...

100% identity politics

"i'm with her"

Nice whataboutism bro

/u/-taco, do people on internet have any shame? The guy was responding to someone doing 'whataboutism' about Trump in first place. Jesus fuck.

I haven't even clicked the link yet, but let me guess: the niggers ruined Detroit and not the fact that heavy industries moved away? Tssk.

Good guess. As an enlightened centrist though, por que no los dos?

It's so strange to me to see a bunch of white kids on Reddit denying the actual history of the place I grew up in, just because I dunno... black people are evidently perfect and never fuck up. Neat. I learn something new every day.

It's particularly strange to me because almost certainly these same white kids are more than eager to explain an event like the election of Donald Trump in terms that describe his supporters in terms ranging from stupid to blatantly racist and xenophobic, yet their explanation for Detroit's long lineage of corrupt and borderline retarded leaders is what? Magic? Sun Spots? Chem-trails?

Well, as someone who grew up there, I don't really see much difference between people who continually vote for mongoloids that are going to fuck them over. Certainly there's enough examples of every demographic in America voting for people who aren't worthy to lick the taint from a syphilitic hobo, so why bend over backwards pretending that blacks are the one racial group in America that's immune to this despite the evidence offered by my festering anal cyst of a home town.

It's not particularly racist to point out that the black voters of Detroit are just as fucking retarded as the senile old white people that keep sending Mitch McConnel to congress. Fuck people, if you're going to vote for a corrupt asshole, at least do it like how Alaska did and vote in someone like Don King who's going to divert billions of dollars of federal pork your way, not someone who is going to take millions of dollars from lobbyists and then bend you over without lube anyway.