every time I get summoned here, I have a quick look around and find that this place gets worse and worse, it's like a black hole which mangles everything that gets sucked into it. src
I was curious because I thought they were both dudes. So Mack has to compete in the female wrestling league due to state legislation. They won't let Mack wrestle boys and they want to stop Mack wrestling girls due to the hormone treatments.
Pardon me, mister, but in this sub we do not refer to boy pussy (bussy) in a derogatory manner. Bussy is a beautiful thing that must be appreciated and allowed to blossom.
I agree he (I guess) shouldn't be able to compete against women, but he wants to compete against boys, and the retardedly petulant Texas (gas all southerners) legislation prevents it. I think he should withdraw but it is the state's fault he can't fight against the boys.
Here's a crazy idea. Don't transition until you're no longer an amateur or professional athlete so you don't have an unfair advantage or disadvantage over your competitors.
Ya that's crazy especially as people going through that are not doing it for fun but because of deep psychological/physiological issue that they're treating through sex transition. To ask someone to wait seems a bit much no?
Making a decision that's going to permanently alter your body that severely as a teenager is insane, especially when every scientist says the brain hasn't fully matured until a person is in their mid-20s.
Children don't make smart decisions on their own. There is no person on this planet who looks back on their teens and thinks, "yup, got it all right in one try."
Sounds to me like your first suggestion was about something more than ensuring a level playing field in academic sports. If a doctor agrees that treatment is the answer, I'm not sure it's only up to the kid at that point.
the average amount of testosterone used in hrt is less than anything that would produce an unfair advantage. transitioning people don't magically turn into the hulk overnight. they also don't turn into a lithe trap princess overnight either.
the solution to this is let everyone wrestle to the death regardless of sex or disability. bring me the spinal column of your classmate or no gold for you.
If you were a man taking therapeutic doses of HRT, you MIGHT not have an advantage over another man, but if you are a woman taking it, you will CERTAINLY have an advantage over another woman.
I'm a rediculously strong robot stuck is a swuishy body. I started transitioning to become more metal than man but the man won't let me compete in arm wrestling with a gas powered industrial crane as an arm.
The solution is just that you can't transition and be a competing athlete. It just doesn't make sense.
That's a bit silly, no? To take a ridiculous example and use it to apply a blanket policy for all situations shows a lack of critical thinking capability.
After becoming a Paralympic champion, Pistorius attempted to enter non-disabled international competition, over persistent objections of the IAAF and charges that his artificial limbs gave an unfair advantage.
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It's a good thing that the people actually making decisions have the wherewithal to analyze each situation as it arises.
Oscar Leonard Carl Pistorius OIB (; Afrikaans pronunciation: [pisˈtɔrjus]; born 22 November 1986) is a South African former sprint runner. Both of Pistorius's legs were amputated below the knee when he was 11 months old. He was the tenth athlete to compete at both the Paralympic Games and Olympic Games, competing in sprint events for below-knee amputees in Paralympic events, and in non-disabled sprint events.
After becoming a Paralympic champion, Pistorius attempted to enter non-disabled international competition, over persistent objections of the IAAF and charges that his artificial limbs gave an unfair advantage.
Or they could make both MtF and FtM compete in men's sports, where they have no disadvantage.
Or they could just create a third (or third and fourth) catagory, outside of "mens sport" and "women's sport"- wouldn't that be fairest, and most consistent with the "there are more than two genders" thing people are so keen on these days?
Or they could just have a 'doping league', where you don't even test for drugs, hormones, etc, and just breed a pool of super-athletes. Tht'd be pretty cool too.
I'm guessing the law exists to prevent MTFs (bigger frame and more bone density) from beating the shit out of women born female. (See: fallon fox).
Women wrestlers and MMA writers cannot win anymore. I guarantee you the folks over at gendercritical see this as some retarded conspiracy to keep regular women over wrestling. It's not a conspiracy, we just suck at figuring this shit out.
Indeed, but I think the answer is pretty clear: Let anybody who "identifies" as a male compete with males. Do not allow people who were born male to compete with women. I think that's a fairly straightforward and reasonable solution, the only complications of which might come from hermaphrodites or intersex people. But it would prevent Fallon Fox and this situation.
Kind of funny cause the same people bitch when MtF compete with women. Can't have your cake and eat it too I guess. Unless all trans are men or something.
A lot of athletes who compete in high school are black and rely on sports to get a higher education. The ones that turn pro can reap huge financial success, improving their lives, their families' lives, even the lives of the people in their community for the better.
Are you insinuating that black lives DON'T matter?
Texans. I know a Texan who works for a newspaper as a high school sports reporter. It's actually weird cause Texas has pro teams and proper collegiate teams. My state sorta cares about high school sports because we are too small to have actual teams.
I like the people saying they're booing the person is trans lol, its almost like they don't wanna accept that there's biological differences between men and women
yeah, see Male-To-Females have higher bone density, so whenever they were wrestling women they'd fucking bodybag them. So Texas was like, "that's enough, leave them bitches alone, everyone now has to fight other people born with the same parts"
Of course, women of wrestling cannot catch a fucking break because along comes a female-to-male (a rarer pokemon) all juiced up on testosterone doses from hormone therapy making it much easier for him to build muscle mass and bodybag these bitches. This is the second year in a row of him bouncing brehettes and Texas is sad but it has no idea what to do cause they made the friggin rules.
I think they should be in their own league. Women born with male bone structure addled via estrogen vs super testosterone juiced guys who were born women. Now that's entertainment.
I find the whole trans panic stuff pretty weird, as a transhumanist. Also somewhat worrying. After all, one must ask wether some people are going to try to stop me from getting my arm cut off to remplace them with shiny metal?
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1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-25
Fucking bigots
1 v_is_one_person 2018-02-25
Booooooooooooo!
I mean idc.
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-02-25
I was curious because I thought they were both dudes. So Mack has to compete in the female wrestling league due to state legislation. They won't let Mack wrestle boys and they want to stop Mack wrestling girls due to the hormone treatments.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-02-25
it should be banned from prohibiting any high school sports, male or female, because of all the testosterone its loaded on
1 fnuuurr 2018-02-25
You posted the same shit twice in a topic with 4 replies. Fuck off with that shit
1 recovering__SJW 2018-02-25
Nah, just control the dosage and compete with the boys. That's the radical centrist solution.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-02-25
Yes.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-02-25
You can't do the opposite though. All trannies have to compete against men.
1 nanonan 2018-02-25
Man: The original transgender.
1 AnnArchist 2018-02-25
Not sure how dosing would somehow NOT be a performance enhancer.
1 freet0 2018-02-25
I think the better solution is just to have separate leagues. We can have M, F, MtF, and FtM.
1 WeeniePops 2018-02-25
Meh, how do you control the dosage though? There's virtually zero drug (PED) testing in high school athletics.
1 StingAuer 2018-02-25
What's the matter, afraid the tranny could kick your ass, pussyboy?
1 Singulaire 2018-02-25
Pardon me, mister, but in this sub we do not refer to boy pussy (bussy) in a derogatory manner. Bussy is a beautiful thing that must be appreciated and allowed to blossom.
1 Mort_DeRire 2018-02-25
how short and fat are you
I agree he (I guess) shouldn't be able to compete against women, but he wants to compete against boys, and the retardedly petulant Texas (gas all southerners) legislation prevents it. I think he should withdraw but it is the state's fault he can't fight against the boys.
You're pretty badass for saying "it" though dude
1 GoyaFrijoles 2018-02-25
Here's a crazy idea. Don't transition until you're no longer an amateur or professional athlete so you don't have an unfair advantage or disadvantage over your competitors.
1 anubgek 2018-02-25
Ya that's crazy especially as people going through that are not doing it for fun but because of deep psychological/physiological issue that they're treating through sex transition. To ask someone to wait seems a bit much no?
1 GoyaFrijoles 2018-02-25
Making a decision that's going to permanently alter your body that severely as a teenager is insane, especially when every scientist says the brain hasn't fully matured until a person is in their mid-20s.
Children don't make smart decisions on their own. There is no person on this planet who looks back on their teens and thinks, "yup, got it all right in one try."
1 anubgek 2018-02-25
Sounds to me like your first suggestion was about something more than ensuring a level playing field in academic sports. If a doctor agrees that treatment is the answer, I'm not sure it's only up to the kid at that point.
1 captainpriapism 2018-02-25
you know they dont let downsyndrome dudes do boxing either right
1 anubgek 2018-02-25
right
1 captainpriapism 2018-02-25
so why arent you worried about their rights as an athlete too
nobody wants to have to wrestle a tranny especially if youre a girl and they eat testosterone constantly
how is that fair its just doping
1 anubgek 2018-02-25
Did i was i wasn't, or did I imply that somehow?
The case we're talking about is a girl who is transitioning to a boy and wrestling boys.
1 muninn_gone 2018-02-25
the average amount of testosterone used in hrt is less than anything that would produce an unfair advantage. transitioning people don't magically turn into the hulk overnight. they also don't turn into a lithe trap princess overnight either.
the solution to this is let everyone wrestle to the death regardless of sex or disability. bring me the spinal column of your classmate or no gold for you.
1 WeeniePops 2018-02-25
If you were a man taking therapeutic doses of HRT, you MIGHT not have an advantage over another man, but if you are a woman taking it, you will CERTAINLY have an advantage over another woman.
1 muninn_gone 2018-02-25
right which is why transmen should be allowed to compete with men.
1 WeeniePops 2018-02-25
Agreed. Same thing goes with the bathroom issue. Whatever you are or claim to be, just use the men's. We don't give a shit.
1 StevenGorefrost 2018-02-25
Are you sure cause I watch Floyd Mayweather beat up some Irish guy a few months ago?
1 aqouta 2018-02-25
I'm a rediculously strong robot stuck is a swuishy body. I started transitioning to become more metal than man but the man won't let me compete in arm wrestling with a gas powered industrial crane as an arm.
The solution is just that you can't transition and be a competing athlete. It just doesn't make sense.
1 anubgek 2018-02-25
That's a bit silly, no? To take a ridiculous example and use it to apply a blanket policy for all situations shows a lack of critical thinking capability.
It's a good thing that the people actually making decisions have the wherewithal to analyze each situation as it arises.
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Oscar Pistorius
Oscar Leonard Carl Pistorius OIB (; Afrikaans pronunciation: [pisˈtɔrjus]; born 22 November 1986) is a South African former sprint runner. Both of Pistorius's legs were amputated below the knee when he was 11 months old. He was the tenth athlete to compete at both the Paralympic Games and Olympic Games, competing in sprint events for below-knee amputees in Paralympic events, and in non-disabled sprint events.
After becoming a Paralympic champion, Pistorius attempted to enter non-disabled international competition, over persistent objections of the IAAF and charges that his artificial limbs gave an unfair advantage.
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1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-25
Or they could make both MtF and FtM compete in men's sports, where they have no disadvantage.
Or they could just create a third (or third and fourth) catagory, outside of "mens sport" and "women's sport"- wouldn't that be fairest, and most consistent with the "there are more than two genders" thing people are so keen on these days?
Or they could just have a 'doping league', where you don't even test for drugs, hormones, etc, and just breed a pool of super-athletes. Tht'd be pretty cool too.
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-02-25
I'm guessing the law exists to prevent MTFs (bigger frame and more bone density) from beating the shit out of women born female. (See: fallon fox).
Women wrestlers and MMA writers cannot win anymore. I guarantee you the folks over at gendercritical see this as some retarded conspiracy to keep regular women over wrestling. It's not a conspiracy, we just suck at figuring this shit out.
1 Mort_DeRire 2018-02-25
Indeed, but I think the answer is pretty clear: Let anybody who "identifies" as a male compete with males. Do not allow people who were born male to compete with women. I think that's a fairly straightforward and reasonable solution, the only complications of which might come from hermaphrodites or intersex people. But it would prevent Fallon Fox and this situation.
1 nanonan 2018-02-25
They've already got this shit sorted in Thailand. Let the ladyboys kickbox the other ladyboys. Simple.
1 froibo 2018-02-25
Kind of funny cause the same people bitch when MtF compete with women. Can't have your cake and eat it too I guess. Unless all trans are men or something.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-02-25
its loaded up on testosterone, that should mean it cant compete in any high school sports.
1 froibo 2018-02-25
Who gives a shit about high school sports?
1 clamdigger90 2018-02-25
A lot of colleges who are willing to pay. As retarded as the whole thing is you can't say that highschool sports don't matter
1 froibo 2018-02-25
They don't matter
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-02-25
stop it! you can't say that!
1 GoyaFrijoles 2018-02-25
A lot of athletes who compete in high school are black and rely on sports to get a higher education. The ones that turn pro can reap huge financial success, improving their lives, their families' lives, even the lives of the people in their community for the better.
Are you insinuating that black lives DON'T matter?
Mods can we get a ban on this nazi?
1 froibo 2018-02-25
All I see is mayos wrestling.
1 nanonan 2018-02-25
Perhaps he's insinuating that an education system predicated on sports scholarships is fucking retarded?
1 moush 2018-02-25
Yea I prefer the ones in Korea that rely on esports.
1 bareballzthebitch 2018-02-25
High school sports particularly football are a religion in Texas. High school stadiums fit 50,000 people.
1 froibo 2018-02-25
All you are pointing out is how retarded Texas is.
1 lihingokole 2018-02-25
Texans. I know a Texan who works for a newspaper as a high school sports reporter. It's actually weird cause Texas has pro teams and proper collegiate teams. My state sorta cares about high school sports because we are too small to have actual teams.
1 PracticalOnions 2018-02-25
I like the people saying they're booing the person is trans lol, its almost like they don't wanna accept that there's biological differences between men and women
1 froibo 2018-02-25
They were both born women.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2018-02-25
It's not "law". The UIL makes its own rules
1 Joman247 2018-02-25
I need some context here, is this a girls only league and both wrestlers are biologically female but the victor is trying to become male?
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-02-25
yeah, see Male-To-Females have higher bone density, so whenever they were wrestling women they'd fucking bodybag them. So Texas was like, "that's enough, leave them bitches alone, everyone now has to fight other people born with the same parts"
Of course, women of wrestling cannot catch a fucking break because along comes a female-to-male (a rarer pokemon) all juiced up on testosterone doses from hormone therapy making it much easier for him to build muscle mass and bodybag these bitches. This is the second year in a row of him bouncing brehettes and Texas is sad but it has no idea what to do cause they made the friggin rules.
I think they should be in their own league. Women born with male bone structure addled via estrogen vs super testosterone juiced guys who were born women. Now that's entertainment.
1 Joman247 2018-02-25
But what about leagues for the demiqueers and the queerfluidgenderkins?
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-02-25
Now that's what I'm talking about. I would pay good money to watch a couple tumblr roly polys choke each other out.
1 EricTrumpIsMyWaifu 2018-02-25
There was one for decades. It was called the circus freakshow.
Heeeeeyyyyooooo
1 incineratechicken 2018-02-25
More like, this chick was going to dope on test and steroids anyway, and found the perfect justification to dominate the league
1 EricTrumpIsMyWaifu 2018-02-25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t8xwpW8gJQ
1 captainpriapism 2018-02-25
yeah its all equal rights this and equal rights that but whenever i wrestle a woman people tell me "stop" and "get the fuck out of my store"
1 UmbellateSaxhorn 2018-02-25
Wait a second. You mean we can watch high school girls wrestling and it's totally legal?
1 incineratechicken 2018-02-25
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1 NotUPromeleeplayer 2018-02-25
Miss me with that 3DPD
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-02-25
I find the whole trans panic stuff pretty weird, as a transhumanist. Also somewhat worrying. After all, one must ask wether some people are going to try to stop me from getting my arm cut off to remplace them with shiny metal?