Hello, I am a high-functioning autistic gal. This means that I'm functional in work and school, able to socialize and live my life. Few people guess that I'm autistic when they meet me. Occasionally I'm slated as rude or b-tchy when I'm just 100% oblivious. I was not diagnosed as autistic until recently and it put many small things into place.
Despite being high-functioning and not having any day-to-day problems in my general life, I have several of the classic symptoms including trouble with eye contact, getting easily overwhelmed and angry by too much noise and chaos, and, of course, sensory issues. The sensory issues are relevant here.
As a child I had the classic autistic difficulty with clothing. Couldn't stand when things felt too tight or too loose, couldn't tolerate certain fabrics, definitely had tantrums and lost my shit because of the feel of certain clothing. I generally had issues with things touching me in certain ways. I still can basically only cope with cotton as a clothing fabric.
As I was a kid I didn't know about my sexual issues of course. But this sensory issue did turn out to apply to sexual contact as well.
I CANNOT STAND having my breasts or the outside of my genitals be touched. It does not feel good to me, it feels BAD. People don't understand this. They imagine that since it feels good to them, it must feel good to everyone. It doesn't. The feeling to me is like the equivalent of screeching nails on a chalkboard to you. Imagine if someone kept making that noise and wouldn't stop, would you feel kind of frustrated and pissed off? That's how I feel when someone touches me there. Especially when they are reluctant to stop after I say so, I feel super pissed off.
How do I discuss this with new guys? I actually have very few issues in relationships surprisingly, this sexual issue is my biggest problem in relationships. I CAN have intercourse and I like intercourse, it's just the OUTSIDE of my genitals (and my breasts) that is a big problem for me. I have no problems touching someone else and getting them off either. And I'm fine with a lot of fetishes and even fine with ass stuff, even though I don't really like it I don't have sensory issues with it. I'm happy to give oral but let's not even talk about someone doing oral on me, it's truly one of the most disgusting slimy sensations I can think of, like having a slug or worm crawling around in my underwear.
I'm hesitant to come straight out of the closet about being autistic right before I even go on a first date with someone, because I think that will give an impression of who I am in general that I don't think is very accurate.
At the same time, I've run into quite a few situation where I kiss someone on a second or third date, and they IMMEDIATELY start pawing at my breasts. I move their hand and say "I'd rather you not do that," and they just put their hand straight back. That makes me really angry and I've had to abruptly end several dates with real anger, which is so stressful.
I've also had problems when I tell people about this, they say things like, "Oh you would like it if I did it." "Oh you just have to get used to it." "Oh you just need therapy, your sexual issues are just psychological and can be fixed." No, actually it's the structure of my brain and it's permanent, and I am not going to go to therapy to force myself into doing something that feels HORRIBLE to me. And I'm not going to accept being told there's something wrong with me because I don't believe autism is wrong or a disease, it is a difference. I cannot be with someone who thinks I can/should change it, or who will pressure me about it AT ALL instead of just accepting it, because it's that stressful to me.
What do I do about this though? I don't want to risk not telling someone soon enough and having my breasts be grabbed at, and I don't want to be "explained" to about what would "fix" me. Changing this is NOT an option and I don't mind being alone if there's nobody compatible, but I just need to figure out how to tell people.
But I feel like coming straight out of the closet and laying out this whole thing on a first date or even before would give an impression of being a way more low-functioning person than I am in the entire rest of my life. And so far I feel like the only way I can truly explain it is to give a whole speech, like I did in this post. But if I spoke all the information in this post it would be a 5 minute monologue. That seems like too much for a first date.
tl;dr: [28/F] High functioning autistic gal with sensory issues that create MAJOR sexual restrictions. How do I bring this up with new guys?
I mean, she says she's into dick-sucking and anal, so I could see some guys being OK with that. Assuming she was being legit- which I kinda suspect she was- she didn't seem to be obnoxious; it was the commenters who were crazy.
a normal red blooded male couldn't give a fuck as long as he gets to cum. also as if i'm giving one woman monogamy anyway, plenty of other titties to touch while i enjoy cumming in an autistic girls butthole.
i love the idea of monogamy man, it's just dead. sluts will just cheat on you, and if you're lucky, they'll tell you they want to fuck other men by floating the idea of an "open relationship". monogamy is long dead, you either enjoy the decline and use women for sex or go monk mode. i suppose i could also date uber religious women from asian countries but i hate religion and don't really like dating asian girls.
which leaves me hunting for unicorns among western women, who are either obese, or complete thots, OR as previously stated, i date foreign religious women from conservative countries, which i prefer not to do.
once again, leaving me with mgtow or being a womanizer.
looking for unicorns is swell, but one musn't expect to actually win the lottery and made life plans around it. MGTOW is gay, i date multiple women at once and dump them when i can no longer avoid the "are we exclusive, i want to be exclusive with you cause i'm bored of fucking 300 men a month, i'm totally capable of monogamy now !!" speech. it's just working just fine.
why do you keep saying the same thing over and over, are you trolling? i'm not settling, i don't care about monogamy, i like fucking girls in short flings. shut the fuck up already?
i'm capable of it, i had one for 7 years. most people i know and most people i talk to on reddit haven't been in a relationship that long. for various reasons now i don't want one, at least at the moment, and probably for a long while.
lol. Thread is locked already. But goddamn are there some delusional fucking morons in that thread.
Breasts are for the purpose of feeding babies, not for sexual gratification... It's a preference and probably one based more on socialization than actual biology.
Ahh, of course. Reddit loves this retarded argument. u/scumbagwife Is it biology that you hate, or sex, both?
You know that humans are the only animal that grows breasts at puberty? Why don't we do what every other species does, and only grow them if they get pregnant? How do breasts help a virgin? Why is the average cup size a D, when you can feed a baby fine with an A cup? Why do humans need by far the biggest breasts in the animal kingdom to feed a single offspring, when other animals feed litters of 6 and 8 with comparatively tiny breasts? Why do the nipple's nerves go to the genital sensory cortex, same as the clit, labia, etc?
Or was it "socialization" that caused all that stuff? (hint: no)
You know, I remember back when it was only the right wing that hated science- kinda depressing that it's coming from both sides, these days, huh?
Sexual selection is a mode of natural selection where members of one biological sex choose mates of the other sex to mate with (intersexual selection), and compete with members of the same sex for access to members of the opposite sex (intrasexual selection). These two forms of selection mean that some individuals have better reproductive success than others within a population, either from being more attractive or preferring more attractive partners to produce offspring. For instance in the breeding season sexual selection in frogs occurs with the males first gathering at the water's edge and making their mating calls: croaking. The females then arrive and choose the males with the deepest croaks and best territories.
I'm not the guy and I'm not sure I agree with him, that being said I think both GMOs and Nuclear Energy are opposed by major sections of the left, or have been historically. Some people would say the stuff wrt gender but I'm not qualified to speak on that lol. Pretty sure there's some antivac, homeopathy bullshit present in a lot of treehuggers as well.
Never anywhere near as much as the right, anyway. The right is still worse now (I was just trying for a rise out of the user I pinged), but the left is catching up.
I think you can probably chalk this up to selection bias preconditioned on your own personal taxonomy of "hot button issues".
Both groups are quite keen to use whatever means that they can to suppress any sort of research into various areas they consider taboo such as climate change (the right) or gender normative behavior being related to biology and not socialization (the left) and both groups use moral panic tactics to attack positions they don't like (2nd amendment rights, gay marriage, genetically modified foods, etc).
The difference, like I said, is probably just up to selection bias - We all have issues we are concerned about and issues we aren't. If our selection of these issues tends to line up in opposition to one of these groups, then we develop a bias based on our personal experience.
If you take a step back for a minute, the idea that any single group of humans (let alone a political group) is actually more virtuous than another is just stupid talk. Sure, individually humans can be this way, but as a group we're all fucking retarded monsters. Given that observation and given demonstrative proof that both sides make healthy use of the same tactics, it's fair to conclude that in the broader sense of wanting to manipulate, suppress or control information to suit their own purposes, they'd both be ideologically the same.
Anyway.... I'd rather have a bussy with fake boobs than nasty gussy with real saggy boobs any day of the week, so there is that.
or gender normative behavior being related to biology and not socialization (the left)
Sure. But that's only a fairly recent thing for the left- at least in a way that starts denying orthodox, mainstream science.
The last decade or so the left is catching up on the right with science denial, no doubt. Like in the original comment- everything is """socialization""" now and biology doesn't exist.
But for majority of post WW2, between "keep evolution out of schools", young-earth creationism, global warming, sex ed, STD prevention, medical stuff like stem cells, environmentalism, the right has been at direct odds with mainstream science, far, far more than the left.
In fact, until trans shit got big in the mid 00s, I can't think of a major issue where the mainstream left had notable beef with mainstream science- GMO maybe? idk. And the GOP weren't anti-science on every issue (IIRC Nixon founded EPA- kinda ironic right now), but I think the general post WW2 trend was clear.
Not saying it's because the left is "more virtuous" though. guess I'm center-left-ish, but I have stuff I agree and disagree with each side about- just stuff like religion's influence on the right, academia (back when academia wasn't at war with itself over biology) had more links to the left, etc.
I especially don't hate sex. Damn I like having my boobs touched. And my husband loves touching them. I also love touching other women's boobs. I do find them sexually gratifying.
I just don't blame it on being hardwired to do so (unless only men can be? What about us non-males who are sexually attracted to breasts?). I blame it on boobs being awesome.
Do I hate biology? Yeah, no. Can't say I'm an expert, or anything, though.
Maybe men are hardwired to be all about the breasts. (And women, too, if that is their preference). Though a nipple's nerves has nothing to do with men, so I'm not sure what that has to do with being hardwired.
Anyway. Your arguments, while based in biological fact (I believe. Taking your word for it.) doesn't prove that the purpose of breasts are sexual gratification.
Attracting a mate? Perhaps, though plenty of A cups get action, too. Though I do think you're right on the attraction part. Large breasts indicate, along with wider hips, fertility. Which, gasp has to do with feeding babies. It's the indication of desirable reproduction that is the attraction and not the happy fun bags that get to be played with. On a biological level.
Sexual gratification to the owner of said boobs, yes. That makes sense in most cases. Though there are plenty of examples where fondling of the chest does very little to stimulate a woman (which is why there are other ways). Luckily this isn't true for me.
The sexualization of breasts is a socialization thing. Considering that it's taboo to flash them boobies in public, even whilist feeding a child, is a new concept.
So what would you say the purpose of breasts are? Sexual gratification for men? Feeding babies? Both? Neither? Biologically they are used to feed babies. It can be argued that biologically they are used to attract a mate in order to have said babies. I'd agree with that. (And it isn't what I said. Notice I said sexual gratification and not sexual attraction.)
I disagree that the biological purpose of breasts is the sexual gratification of the person who gets to touch them. I think that is a person's preference, rather than something in their brain that goes 'I must touch these in order to continue the human race!'
Does it mean it's not sexy and fun to touch them? Does it mean it isn't sexually gratifying? Of course not. But that's not the argument.
So maybe you're confusing what was said or misunderstood. Or I did. Or whatever. Not a big deal anyway.
Though it's funny to call someone out based on a partial quote and then not even argue against the actual quote. Unless your argument is that the biological purpose of breasts aren't to feed babies.
Never said it was the only purpose. I just said the purpose wasn't sexual gratification.
So /fsdghk is it babies you hate or women who disagree with you? Or maybe it's women who won't let you play with their boobs even though you are hardwired to have to touch boobs in order to be sexually satisfied?
So, whats better- a girl who's tiddies and cooch are in play but no anal or head, or one who's into dick-sucking and bumsex but no ta-tas and no cha cha?
I'm sure /u/queeraspie is totally well adjusted and their opinions should be held in high value. Plus who wants to breed with a sperg? You run a higher risk of having to raise on of those little hellions, abortion when?
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1 Kyom 2018-02-28
For posterity:
Hello, I am a high-functioning autistic gal. This means that I'm functional in work and school, able to socialize and live my life. Few people guess that I'm autistic when they meet me. Occasionally I'm slated as rude or b-tchy when I'm just 100% oblivious. I was not diagnosed as autistic until recently and it put many small things into place.
Despite being high-functioning and not having any day-to-day problems in my general life, I have several of the classic symptoms including trouble with eye contact, getting easily overwhelmed and angry by too much noise and chaos, and, of course, sensory issues. The sensory issues are relevant here.
As a child I had the classic autistic difficulty with clothing. Couldn't stand when things felt too tight or too loose, couldn't tolerate certain fabrics, definitely had tantrums and lost my shit because of the feel of certain clothing. I generally had issues with things touching me in certain ways. I still can basically only cope with cotton as a clothing fabric.
As I was a kid I didn't know about my sexual issues of course. But this sensory issue did turn out to apply to sexual contact as well.
I CANNOT STAND having my breasts or the outside of my genitals be touched. It does not feel good to me, it feels BAD. People don't understand this. They imagine that since it feels good to them, it must feel good to everyone. It doesn't. The feeling to me is like the equivalent of screeching nails on a chalkboard to you. Imagine if someone kept making that noise and wouldn't stop, would you feel kind of frustrated and pissed off? That's how I feel when someone touches me there. Especially when they are reluctant to stop after I say so, I feel super pissed off.
How do I discuss this with new guys? I actually have very few issues in relationships surprisingly, this sexual issue is my biggest problem in relationships. I CAN have intercourse and I like intercourse, it's just the OUTSIDE of my genitals (and my breasts) that is a big problem for me. I have no problems touching someone else and getting them off either. And I'm fine with a lot of fetishes and even fine with ass stuff, even though I don't really like it I don't have sensory issues with it. I'm happy to give oral but let's not even talk about someone doing oral on me, it's truly one of the most disgusting slimy sensations I can think of, like having a slug or worm crawling around in my underwear.
I'm hesitant to come straight out of the closet about being autistic right before I even go on a first date with someone, because I think that will give an impression of who I am in general that I don't think is very accurate.
At the same time, I've run into quite a few situation where I kiss someone on a second or third date, and they IMMEDIATELY start pawing at my breasts. I move their hand and say "I'd rather you not do that," and they just put their hand straight back. That makes me really angry and I've had to abruptly end several dates with real anger, which is so stressful.
I've also had problems when I tell people about this, they say things like, "Oh you would like it if I did it." "Oh you just have to get used to it." "Oh you just need therapy, your sexual issues are just psychological and can be fixed." No, actually it's the structure of my brain and it's permanent, and I am not going to go to therapy to force myself into doing something that feels HORRIBLE to me. And I'm not going to accept being told there's something wrong with me because I don't believe autism is wrong or a disease, it is a difference. I cannot be with someone who thinks I can/should change it, or who will pressure me about it AT ALL instead of just accepting it, because it's that stressful to me.
What do I do about this though? I don't want to risk not telling someone soon enough and having my breasts be grabbed at, and I don't want to be "explained" to about what would "fix" me. Changing this is NOT an option and I don't mind being alone if there's nobody compatible, but I just need to figure out how to tell people.
But I feel like coming straight out of the closet and laying out this whole thing on a first date or even before would give an impression of being a way more low-functioning person than I am in the entire rest of my life. And so far I feel like the only way I can truly explain it is to give a whole speech, like I did in this post. But if I spoke all the information in this post it would be a 5 minute monologue. That seems like too much for a first date.
tl;dr: [28/F] High functioning autistic gal with sensory issues that create MAJOR sexual restrictions. How do I bring this up with new guys?
1 likearasputin 2018-02-28
Sad if true, but most likely troll.
1 Odemdemz98 2018-02-28
Yeah I'd actually feel real bad for her. That seems sucky. Imagine not being able to enjoy getting your dick sucked? 😂
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-28
/u/queeraspie can you tell us about some of the other stuff you find reasonable. Lol
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
ummm just don't date and accept life alone you fucking spazz.
1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-28
I mean, she says she's into dick-sucking and anal, so I could see some guys being OK with that. Assuming she was being legit- which I kinda suspect she was- she didn't seem to be obnoxious; it was the commenters who were crazy.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
the post was removed so i didn't read it all, all i knew was she didn't like her pussy touched.
but yeah, i'd date a girl who did blow jobs and anal if i couldn't touch her pussy, who cares.
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
Yeah.. you might. A normal red-blooded make likes to touch the titties.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
a normal red blooded male couldn't give a fuck as long as he gets to cum. also as if i'm giving one woman monogamy anyway, plenty of other titties to touch while i enjoy cumming in an autistic girls butthole.
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
Degeneracy folks.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
i love the idea of monogamy man, it's just dead. sluts will just cheat on you, and if you're lucky, they'll tell you they want to fuck other men by floating the idea of an "open relationship". monogamy is long dead, you either enjoy the decline and use women for sex or go monk mode. i suppose i could also date uber religious women from asian countries but i hate religion and don't really like dating asian girls.
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
Don't be a cuck. It reduces your chances of being cucked.
Find a girl that is not a hoe.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
which leaves me hunting for unicorns among western women, who are either obese, or complete thots, OR as previously stated, i date foreign religious women from conservative countries, which i prefer not to do.
once again, leaving me with mgtow or being a womanizer.
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
Then look for unicorns but realize you'll have to be one yourself.
If that isn't something you can manage, then settle for mgtow or something.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
looking for unicorns is swell, but one musn't expect to actually win the lottery and made life plans around it. MGTOW is gay, i date multiple women at once and dump them when i can no longer avoid the "are we exclusive, i want to be exclusive with you cause i'm bored of fucking 300 men a month, i'm totally capable of monogamy now !!" speech. it's just working just fine.
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
It is possible. If you can't put in the effort then you'll have to settle.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
why do you keep saying the same thing over and over, are you trolling? i'm not settling, i don't care about monogamy, i like fucking girls in short flings. shut the fuck up already?
1 Trajan_ 2018-02-28
Basically what I'm hearing is that you are a pathetic excuse for a man incapable of a lasting relationship.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-02-28
i'm capable of it, i had one for 7 years. most people i know and most people i talk to on reddit haven't been in a relationship that long. for various reasons now i don't want one, at least at the moment, and probably for a long while.
1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-28
lol. Thread is locked already. But goddamn are there some delusional fucking morons in that thread.
Ahh, of course. Reddit loves this retarded argument. u/scumbagwife Is it biology that you hate, or sex, both?
You know that humans are the only animal that grows breasts at puberty? Why don't we do what every other species does, and only grow them if they get pregnant? How do breasts help a virgin? Why is the average cup size a D, when you can feed a baby fine with an A cup? Why do humans need by far the biggest breasts in the animal kingdom to feed a single offspring, when other animals feed litters of 6 and 8 with comparatively tiny breasts? Why do the nipple's nerves go to the genital sensory cortex, same as the clit, labia, etc?
Or was it "socialization" that caused all that stuff? (hint: no)
You know, I remember back when it was only the right wing that hated science- kinda depressing that it's coming from both sides, these days, huh?
1 WikiTextBot 2018-02-28
Sexual selection
Sexual selection is a mode of natural selection where members of one biological sex choose mates of the other sex to mate with (intersexual selection), and compete with members of the same sex for access to members of the opposite sex (intrasexual selection). These two forms of selection mean that some individuals have better reproductive success than others within a population, either from being more attractive or preferring more attractive partners to produce offspring. For instance in the breeding season sexual selection in frogs occurs with the males first gathering at the water's edge and making their mating calls: croaking. The females then arrive and choose the males with the deepest croaks and best territories.
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1 mortygate 2018-02-28
Your memory is wrong. The left has always had problems with science
1 ashent2 2018-02-28
explain
1 JukkaSeriousTea 2018-02-28
I'm not the guy and I'm not sure I agree with him, that being said I think both GMOs and Nuclear Energy are opposed by major sections of the left, or have been historically. Some people would say the stuff wrt gender but I'm not qualified to speak on that lol. Pretty sure there's some antivac, homeopathy bullshit present in a lot of treehuggers as well.
1 _throawayplop_ 2018-02-28
Being against gmo or nuclear energy have nothing to do with being anti science
1 JukkaSeriousTea 2018-02-28
Really, can I enquire as to your reasons for opposing either of those things? Bonus points if you can do it without mentioning monsanto.
1 _throawayplop_ 2018-02-28
I'm not saying I'm against personnaly, I'm balanced.
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-02-28
Yeah they do
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-02-28
Nuclear is pretty easy though. If something goes tits up you're totally fucked.
t. Someone from a country that literally can't function without nuclear even though the reactors should have been shut down years ago for renovations
1 PotatoePizza 2018-02-28
Yeah it does you fucking cave man clown. What, lets burn oil and use old crop techniques to solve the worlds problems?
1 _throawayplop_ 2018-02-28
You manifestly don't really understand what is science. Tips: it's not a cargo cult
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-02-28
Nuclear is pretty easy though. If something goes tits up you're totally fucked.
t. Someone from a country that literally can't function without nuclear even though the reactors should have been shut down years ago for renovations
1 AntiLuke 2018-02-28
Antivax stuff and a lot of alternative medicine are more popular on the left than the right. Hippies, yo.
1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-28
lol. no.
Never anywhere near as much as the right, anyway. The right is still worse now (I was just trying for a rise out of the user I pinged), but the left is catching up.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-02-28
I think you can probably chalk this up to selection bias preconditioned on your own personal taxonomy of "hot button issues".
Both groups are quite keen to use whatever means that they can to suppress any sort of research into various areas they consider taboo such as climate change (the right) or gender normative behavior being related to biology and not socialization (the left) and both groups use moral panic tactics to attack positions they don't like (2nd amendment rights, gay marriage, genetically modified foods, etc).
The difference, like I said, is probably just up to selection bias - We all have issues we are concerned about and issues we aren't. If our selection of these issues tends to line up in opposition to one of these groups, then we develop a bias based on our personal experience.
If you take a step back for a minute, the idea that any single group of humans (let alone a political group) is actually more virtuous than another is just stupid talk. Sure, individually humans can be this way, but as a group we're all fucking retarded monsters. Given that observation and given demonstrative proof that both sides make healthy use of the same tactics, it's fair to conclude that in the broader sense of wanting to manipulate, suppress or control information to suit their own purposes, they'd both be ideologically the same.
Anyway.... I'd rather have a bussy with fake boobs than nasty gussy with real saggy boobs any day of the week, so there is that.
1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-28
Sure. But that's only a fairly recent thing for the left- at least in a way that starts denying orthodox, mainstream science.
The last decade or so the left is catching up on the right with science denial, no doubt. Like in the original comment- everything is """socialization""" now and biology doesn't exist.
But for majority of post WW2, between "keep evolution out of schools", young-earth creationism, global warming, sex ed, STD prevention, medical stuff like stem cells, environmentalism, the right has been at direct odds with mainstream science, far, far more than the left.
In fact, until trans shit got big in the mid 00s, I can't think of a major issue where the mainstream left had notable beef with mainstream science- GMO maybe? idk. And the GOP weren't anti-science on every issue (IIRC Nixon founded EPA- kinda ironic right now), but I think the general post WW2 trend was clear.
Not saying it's because the left is "more virtuous" though. guess I'm center-left-ish, but I have stuff I agree and disagree with each side about- just stuff like religion's influence on the right, academia (back when academia wasn't at war with itself over biology) had more links to the left, etc.
1 ffbtaw 2018-02-28
Blank slatism has been around for a long time. Eugenics was a progressive position in the early 20th century.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-02-28
/r/relationships automatically locks threads and deletes the post when it's x-posted anywhere on reddit.
1 scumbagwife 2018-02-28
Oh, good gods.
Do I hate biology or sex? No.
I especially don't hate sex. Damn I like having my boobs touched. And my husband loves touching them. I also love touching other women's boobs. I do find them sexually gratifying.
I just don't blame it on being hardwired to do so (unless only men can be? What about us non-males who are sexually attracted to breasts?). I blame it on boobs being awesome.
Do I hate biology? Yeah, no. Can't say I'm an expert, or anything, though.
Maybe men are hardwired to be all about the breasts. (And women, too, if that is their preference). Though a nipple's nerves has nothing to do with men, so I'm not sure what that has to do with being hardwired.
Anyway. Your arguments, while based in biological fact (I believe. Taking your word for it.) doesn't prove that the purpose of breasts are sexual gratification.
Attracting a mate? Perhaps, though plenty of A cups get action, too. Though I do think you're right on the attraction part. Large breasts indicate, along with wider hips, fertility. Which, gasp has to do with feeding babies. It's the indication of desirable reproduction that is the attraction and not the happy fun bags that get to be played with. On a biological level.
Sexual gratification to the owner of said boobs, yes. That makes sense in most cases. Though there are plenty of examples where fondling of the chest does very little to stimulate a woman (which is why there are other ways). Luckily this isn't true for me.
The sexualization of breasts is a socialization thing. Considering that it's taboo to flash them boobies in public, even whilist feeding a child, is a new concept.
So what would you say the purpose of breasts are? Sexual gratification for men? Feeding babies? Both? Neither? Biologically they are used to feed babies. It can be argued that biologically they are used to attract a mate in order to have said babies. I'd agree with that. (And it isn't what I said. Notice I said sexual gratification and not sexual attraction.)
I disagree that the biological purpose of breasts is the sexual gratification of the person who gets to touch them. I think that is a person's preference, rather than something in their brain that goes 'I must touch these in order to continue the human race!'
Does it mean it's not sexy and fun to touch them? Does it mean it isn't sexually gratifying? Of course not. But that's not the argument.
So maybe you're confusing what was said or misunderstood. Or I did. Or whatever. Not a big deal anyway.
Though it's funny to call someone out based on a partial quote and then not even argue against the actual quote. Unless your argument is that the biological purpose of breasts aren't to feed babies.
Never said it was the only purpose. I just said the purpose wasn't sexual gratification.
So /fsdghk is it babies you hate or women who disagree with you? Or maybe it's women who won't let you play with their boobs even though you are hardwired to have to touch boobs in order to be sexually satisfied?
1 fsdgfhk 2018-02-28
So, whats better- a girl who's tiddies and cooch are in play but no anal or head, or one who's into dick-sucking and bumsex but no ta-tas and no cha cha?
1 SpotNL 2018-02-28
Both options are bad.
1 ashent2 2018-02-28
ya we gonna need it all cuz we're not spergs
1 SpotNL 2018-02-28
Excuse me? This is a Christian sub. Sex is the sign of the Devil.
1 JumbledFun 2018-02-28
I'm sure /u/queeraspie is totally well adjusted and their opinions should be held in high value. Plus who wants to breed with a sperg? You run a higher risk of having to raise on of those little hellions, abortion when?