Fun fact: Lynx deodorant was famously invented by German engineers as a way of re-purposing the chemicals used to make Zyklon B (the gas used during the holocaust)
Anyone who uses lynx deodorant is unintentionally (or intentionally) an anti-Semite.
You'd have to be a BO hating right wing extremist to disagree! And that would mean a trip to the gulag that a class traitor like that would totally have coming.
Yeah, they rotate between "shitty", "gross", "creepy", and "problematic." "Gross" definitely isn't being used in its original definition, it just gets used to describe something being offensive.
That's because their ideology prevents from most insults since they're in some way or another problematic, its inherent to every insult and I think even gross soon be evaluated as politically incorrect.
I could see the reasoning being that the person wouldn't want to imply that not living up to society's notion of what is disgusting is wrong. Its the same dance with every swear word.
The sense of disgust is much more easily triggered in right wingers than left wingers.
I haven't read it because I'm a lazy cretin but Haidt covered that in the Righteous Mind. Essentially lib morality is mostly about harm/care, while right wingers care about a broader set of criteria including sanctity/disgust (while deprioritizing harm/care).
This is also one of the reasons why conservatives tend to understand liberal viewpoints even if they disagree with them, while lefties don't understand conservative viewpoints and just view them as mindlessly evil.
This is also one of the reasons why conservatives tend to understand liberal viewpoints even if they disagree with them, while lefties don't understand conservative viewpoints and just view them as mindlessly evil.
I think there's a caveat that neither side is particularly good at understanding the other, just that conservatives are better. Haidt's idea of the two sides having different bases for their morality seems like a pretty reasonable explanation as a whole.
In my experience it is. A lot of young labour voters I meet think Tories are subhuman scum with no regard for humanity. Very few on the right seem to reciprocate that, rather thinking that those on the left are misled or foolish.
I'm not sure people on the right "understand" lib viewpoints better than vice versa.
Though it depends a lot on whether you mean economically right/left or socially. Socially right/left people tend to consider the opposite immoral and not understand them no matter what "side" they're on whereas people on the economic right are more likely to view more left leaning people as stupid, naive or sentimental than disagree with them morally. Whereas fiscal conservatives are more often viewed as soulless and evil than insulted for their intelligence.
Traditionalists understand lib views. Most of us started off as libs, in fact, since traditionalist concepts like free speech used to BE liberal views.
More people become more conservative as they get a job grow up compared to people who are radical leftists and say in their portland coffee shops.
The latest Presidential election has forced many people to the right because calling people names in America just makes them say fuck you.
In fact most people say fuck you to being told they are Nazis unsurprisingly and even if they are largely leftist ( for a republican because they supported Trump over Cruz, Rubio, or defaulted to him after Ben Carson) they are never going to vote across partylines again even if it was common place.
TLDR: People who are okay with Abortion but really like the NRA are going to vote for what is more important to them.
Yea, but that's not only a Left Wing thing, a republican can become more of a "How would Jesus want me to vote" person and because of that want more taxes to help people or become less of a "welfare queens are stealing muh money" person.
In a study I did with Jesse Graham and Brian Nosek, we tested how well liberals and conservatives could understand each other. We asked more than two thousand American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Qyestionnaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out normally, answering as themselves. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a “typical liberal” would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a “typical conservative” would respond. This design allowed us to examine the stereotypes that each side held about the other. More important, it allowed us to assess how accurate they were by comparing people’s expectations about “typical” partisans to the actual responses from partisans on the left and the right)’ Who was best able to pretend to be the other?
The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.” The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the Care and Fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with questions such as “One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” or ”Justice is the most important requirement for a society,” liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree. If you have a moral matrix built primarily on intuitions about care and fairness (as equality), and you listen to the Reagan [i.e., conservative] narrative, what else could you think? Reagan seems completely unconcerned about the welfare of drug addicts, poor people, and gay people. He’s more interested in fighting wars and telling people how to run their sex lives.
Imagine how goddamn stupid you'd have to be to end up less informed and less discerning than an American conservative.
i think it sort of is. i wouldnt say the default attitude is that its "mindless" though, rather very purposefully and deliberately evil. its also giving a bit too much credit to conservatives imo, there are some left/liberal positions that i think they really cant comprehend, since they contradict very base level, essentially unconscious assumptions (trans rights is probably the best example of this). but as a general axiom, "libs think conservatives are evil, conservatives think libs are just stupid" has a fair amount of truth to it.
Libs: "Rapists and murders are not deliberately evil. They are products of their environment and mental illnesses. There is no free will or personal responsibility."
Also libs: "Dad and grandpa are deliberately evil because they aren't communists, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Probably explains the respective reactions to the trans issue.
And previously (and still currently for many) the 'gay issue'. I also find that people who are conservative are much more rigid in their eating habits with little desire to try new foods.
Pretending that cutting off a dick and forming it into a bloody puss pocket magically transforms a man into a woman is a fairly offensive claim. It presupposes that woman are essentially nothing more than a wet hole.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-02-28
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1 fucknazimodzzz 2018-02-28
On point as usual snappy
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2018-02-28
didnt stepdaddy talk about hitlers obsession with cleanliness in one of his videos or something
repost this on r/jordanpeterson for free fake internet points m8
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-28
WHY SO YOU MAD LMAOOOOOOOO
1 ffbtaw 2018-02-28
He may have hated body odor but his farts were deadly.
1 shanewater 2018-02-28
Fun fact: Lynx deodorant was famously invented by German engineers as a way of re-purposing the chemicals used to make Zyklon B (the gas used during the holocaust)
Anyone who uses lynx deodorant is unintentionally (or intentionally) an anti-Semite.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Free Palestine by purchasing Lynx deodorant here! https://www.lynxformen.com/uk/products/deodorant-antiperspirant.html
Keep sea-air fresh AND drive the Jews into the sea - with AXE brand hygiene products
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-02-28
something something Bayer something Hugo Boss something Volkswagen.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-02-28
Lynx is "Axe" for you Amerifats out there.
1 nanonan 2018-02-28
Man can never be hot.
1 ModeratorAbuseSucks 2018-02-28
So cleaning my room is an alt-right dog whistle now? Wtf I hate personal hygiene
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-02-28
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/80uwif/hate_body_odour_youre_more_likely_to_have/
1 Odemdemz98 2018-02-28
Only thing I know about British Politics is from Mock The Week.
Which I would totally recommend, btw.
1 niexx 2018-02-28
no its bad. watch the thick of it instead.
1 bjt23 2018-02-28
What if I'm a leftwing authoritarian tankie? What smells do I hate then? Is it Chechens?
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-02-28
If it is you can be a mod of /r/Russia
1 PotatoePizza 2018-02-28
tfw when Putinism is authoritarian conservative.
1 sex_tourism 2018-02-28
Other leftists ofc.
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-02-28
Anything other than BO
1 EricTrumpIsMyWaifu 2018-02-28
You have been modded at /r/againsthatesubreddits
1 CanadianCartman 2018-02-28
The smell of food.
1 bjt23 2018-02-28
A good tankie has plenty of food, they just take it from Ukranians.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-02-28
doubleplusgood oxymoron there, comrade
1 bjt23 2018-02-28
You'd have to be a BO hating right wing extremist to disagree! And that would mean a trip to the gulag that a class traitor like that would totally have coming.
1 Gladbach10 2018-02-28
And Tatars, Cossacks, and kulaks.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Money
Gussy
Weed
1 hlary 2018-02-28
Homosexuals
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-02-28
everyone knows that deodorant was created by the nazis and taking a shower is an alt right dog whistle for the jews being gassed in the showers
1 OnSnowWhiteWings 2018-02-28
So subtle you could only pick it up with an AM radio.
1 ElGalloEnojado 2018-02-28
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
1 AJK64 2018-02-28
"Smelly lefties say that if you care about the smell of unwashed vag you are literally hitler'
1 wolfdreams01 2018-02-28
This explains why so many Antifa have such nasty hair.
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-02-28
bitch u stank
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-02-28
This is something I've long suspected. The sense of disgust is much more easily triggered in right wingers than left wingers.
Probably explains the respective reactions to the trans issue.
1 Chicup 2018-02-28
Take a shower stinky.
1 thetarget3 2018-02-28
Woah, calm down Hitler.
1 Chicup 2018-02-28
No thats ..
Take a shower (((stinky))).
1 allwordsaredust 2018-02-28
Idk a lot of Internet lefties in the current age seem to find everything "gross". Something something horseshoe theory.
1 DayOfTheRake 2018-02-28
That's just because if you're being woke, all the good insults are off the table.
1 Magehunter_Skassi 2018-02-28
Yeah, they rotate between "shitty", "gross", "creepy", and "problematic." "Gross" definitely isn't being used in its original definition, it just gets used to describe something being offensive.
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-02-28
I'm actually convinced that most of the SJW reactions to things are LARPs- learned responses that are not innate.
1 ManifestationOfSelf 2018-02-28
That's because their ideology prevents from most insults since they're in some way or another problematic, its inherent to every insult and I think even gross soon be evaluated as politically incorrect.
I could see the reasoning being that the person wouldn't want to imply that not living up to society's notion of what is disgusting is wrong. Its the same dance with every swear word.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2018-02-28
I haven't read it
because I'm a lazy cretinbut Haidt covered that in the Righteous Mind. Essentially lib morality is mostly about harm/care, while right wingers care about a broader set of criteria including sanctity/disgust (while deprioritizing harm/care).This is also one of the reasons why conservatives tend to understand liberal viewpoints even if they disagree with them, while lefties don't understand conservative viewpoints and just view them as mindlessly evil.
1 siskonaut 2018-02-28
This is a thing?
1 pepperouchau 2018-02-28
Lol nah
1 Prometherion13 2018-02-28
It's in the Haidt book, learn to read.
1 pepperouchau 2018-02-28
What do these squiggles mean?
1 Prometherion13 2018-02-28
Forgot to mention, it's written in wingdings.
1 Average2520 2018-02-28
Wait, just because something is in a book now that makes it true?
So communism is the ultimate form of government then! After all, it was in the Marx book.
1 thetarget3 2018-02-28
Well, it's based on peer reviewed research. Then again it's psychology so it's probably bullshit.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2018-02-28
Haidt is a mild liberal. I'm not sure how replicable his work is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html
I think there's a caveat that neither side is particularly good at understanding the other, just that conservatives are better. Haidt's idea of the two sides having different bases for their morality seems like a pretty reasonable explanation as a whole.
1 Dukkerz 2018-02-28
In my experience it is. A lot of young labour voters I meet think Tories are subhuman scum with no regard for humanity. Very few on the right seem to reciprocate that, rather thinking that those on the left are misled or foolish.
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-28
this is objectively true though
1 Dukkerz 2018-02-28
This but ironically.
1 allwordsaredust 2018-02-28
I'm not sure people on the right "understand" lib viewpoints better than vice versa.
Though it depends a lot on whether you mean economically right/left or socially. Socially right/left people tend to consider the opposite immoral and not understand them no matter what "side" they're on whereas people on the economic right are more likely to view more left leaning people as stupid, naive or sentimental than disagree with them morally. Whereas fiscal conservatives are more often viewed as soulless and evil than insulted for their intelligence.
1 Dukkerz 2018-02-28
What about the true intellectuals of this age: Radical Centrists?
1 allwordsaredust 2018-02-28
Obviously towering above them all with the greatest intellectual might and understanding.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
I've been a lib for most of my life, but now I am an Augustan fascist. So, yes, I do understand lib views. And moved beyond them.
1 allwordsaredust 2018-02-28
That's nice for you. I don't see how that contradicts my point.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Traditionalists understand lib views. Most of us started off as libs, in fact, since traditionalist concepts like free speech used to BE liberal views.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2018-02-28
More people become more conservative as they
get a jobgrow up compared to people who are radical leftists and say in their portland coffee shops.The latest Presidential election has forced many people to the right because calling people names in America just makes them say fuck you.
In fact most people say fuck you to being told they are Nazis unsurprisingly and even if they are largely leftist ( for a republican because they supported Trump over Cruz, Rubio, or defaulted to him after Ben Carson) they are never going to vote across partylines again even if it was common place.
TLDR: People who are okay with Abortion but really like the NRA are going to vote for what is more important to them.
1 Zachums 2018-02-28
Personally, I've gotten much much more left leaning as I've gotten older and worked more professional jobs. Tax my shit up, fam.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2018-02-28
Yea, but that's not only a Left Wing thing, a republican can become more of a "How would Jesus want me to vote" person and because of that want more taxes to help people or become less of a "welfare queens are stealing muh money" person.
Dat Horseshoe
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-02-28
From Haidt:
Imagine how goddamn stupid you'd have to be to end up less informed and less discerning than an American conservative.
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-28
i think it sort of is. i wouldnt say the default attitude is that its "mindless" though, rather very purposefully and deliberately evil. its also giving a bit too much credit to conservatives imo, there are some left/liberal positions that i think they really cant comprehend, since they contradict very base level, essentially unconscious assumptions (trans rights is probably the best example of this). but as a general axiom, "libs think conservatives are evil, conservatives think libs are just stupid" has a fair amount of truth to it.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Libs: "Rapists and murders are not deliberately evil. They are products of their environment and mental illnesses. There is no free will or personal responsibility."
Also libs: "Dad and grandpa are deliberately evil because they aren't communists, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-02-28
Please don't taunt the children.
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-28
my dad is cool actually
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
See, oppressive male adult cisheteropatriarchs aren't out to get you. They are just more experienced at running the world.
1 thetarget3 2018-02-28
Haidt doesn't think right wingers deprioritise harm/care, they prioritise both all five aspects whereas left wingers only prioritise the two.
1 ConsoleWarCriminal 2018-02-28
Meant deprioritize versus the left which centralizes it. Poor choice of words.
1 bannana 2018-02-28
And previously (and still currently for many) the 'gay issue'. I also find that people who are conservative are much more rigid in their eating habits with little desire to try new foods.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
And by 'new foods' I mean 'semen milk mixed with the blood of infants on earthquake nights'
1 OdinSQL 2018-02-28
Pretending that cutting off a dick and forming it into a bloody puss pocket magically transforms a man into a woman is a fairly offensive claim. It presupposes that woman are essentially nothing more than a wet hole.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Imagine a person that combines the most disgusting aspects of a male and a female.
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-28
Leftists are disgusting
1 snoozeflu 2018-02-28
So this is why I see so many liberal females who don't bathe regularly and have hairy armpits.
1 SpotNL 2018-02-28
No, you just go to shit bars.
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-02-28
Going to bars that allow women in, even ironically
I feel sorry for you
1 Chicup 2018-02-28
Left wingers don't shower often enough? This didn't require a study.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-02-28
/r/drama btfo
1 ffbtaw 2018-02-28
Pathogens increase authoritarianism in general.
1 PotatoePizza 2018-02-28
The "parasite stress" hypothesis. What a pretty name.
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
Hippies stink.
1 respaaaaaj 2018-02-28
Get a job you dirty hippies
1 NardDogAndy 2018-02-28
Alternative headline "Liberals smell bad"
1 PM_ME_FREE_FOOD 2018-02-28
AlternativeCorrect headline "Liberals smell bad"1 dollaress 2018-02-28
Apparently right-wing is now synonymous with conservative/authoritarian.
1 DepressionHitsHard2 2018-02-28
If you do not like another mans sweet sweet man musk, you are literally a NAZI.
1 westofthetracks 2018-02-28
i have an extremely weak sense of smell, is this why im pinko slime?
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
prbs
1 SpotNL 2018-02-28
I thought right wing authoritarians were the hard working type. Guess they are as long as they don't break a sweat.
1 FreekyFreezer 2018-02-28
How can I join the NSDAP
1 SocialistEphebophile 2018-02-28
If you think it is OK to even type those words then you already have.
1 FreekyFreezer 2018-02-28
That's great!
1 homosexextra 2018-02-28
I need feminism because all roasties deserve oral sex, vaginosis or no
1 OdinSQL 2018-02-28
Does this mean that commies literally stink?
1 captainpriapism 2018-02-28
its literally just a smelly feminist calling people nazis isnt it
1 skeetsurfing1984 2018-02-28
Did they control for the confounding factor of "dirty, smelly hippies"?
1 wolfsktaag 2018-02-28
it was established years ago, in peer reviewed research, that leftists have a malformed sense of disgust
theyre evolutionary dead ends tbqh
1 -huitzilopochtli- 2018-02-28
WTF Indians are leftists?