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While I see your point, trans women and male cross dressers both exist. The existence of male cross dressers does not invalidate trans women.

Imagine thinking there’s a difference between men who dress like women, and men who dres like women.

Some men who dress like women have also castrated themselves. It's an important distinction to make and your attempt at invalidating their lived experience isn't helping anyone, mister!

I think you meant to say, “some men have recognized Darwin’s law and removed themselves from the pool, praise Allah.”

Modern liberals are way ahead of Nazis when it comes to eugenics programs.

lgbtq and pro-choice movements are socially acceptable eugenics. this is why i find it very weird the alt-right has problems with both. you're literally getting what you're asking for. effeminate men and women don't reproduce and niggershits abort their babies. who the fuck has a problem with this??

Half of the evangelicals who are rabidly pro-life are white trash whose own children are aborting their babies, that's why they have a problem with it.

Theres a difference between men who dress like women because they think they are women and men who dress like women to be cute uwu ~<3

Well, nobody would notice if woman would dress like a man.

Not in the age of soy

Not in Portland

I love the whole "invalidate" thing, yet another term which the looney leftballs have made meaningless, since they don't want to admit that people disagree with them.

It is a bit 1984 in a way. Change or alter words so that any who attack you are discredited automatically!

very much a trend on the left these days.

diversity = no white people invalidate = disagree nazi = anyone not far left transphobia = biology

and the beat goes on...

wew

words developing new or different meanings is LITERALLY big brother

please share more of your deep insights

1984 references are often overplayed, but it's not like these language changes are being done in a vacuum. Manipulating language is a political tool, and there's nothing wrong objecting to such a manipulation. The smarter move is to run your own manipulations, however.

are u saying they invalidated its use through exhaustion?

There is - crossdressers at least have the self-awareness to realize you can't become a woman by declaration.

I think you just defined varying levels of mental illness.

If a man dresses like a woman, there is no difference in the eyes of rational society.

I just realized that in many ways I agree with far too many gender critical users on this front.

I can't believe society has fallen so far I felt the need to clarify the difference between a transvestite tranny and a transsexual tranny.

I just realized that in many ways I agree with far too many gender critical users on this front.

Well, at least we still have suicide.

transvestites arent trannies by definition, thats sorta the whole point of the distinction

Can we not lump them all in as Transies and be done with it?

i thought “tranny” actually meant transvestite, and we just use it wrong because it upsets people and transvestites aren’t relevant

ooh, youre probably right actually, it is a pretty old slur

I've been found out!

yeah but this is an edge lord satire sub, you aren't supposed to be logical. but yeah, it's not hard to tell the difference between a dude who dresses in women's clothes as some kinda fetish, and a dude who believes he is a chick trapped in a dudes body.

but not if you saw one walking down the street, cause both of them just look like a dude wearing makeup and a dress.

most crossdressers are cis and hetero

otherwise there'd be way more transbians if they were the same lol

Aren't like half of trans women lesbians?

Yes, but I imagine there's far more crossdressers out there than transwomen. I get that impression when trying to find shoes in my size >_<

This is actually a hot-button issue in progressive circles, whether cis transvestites are basically transphobes engaged in a sort of queer blackface. "If you're a guy you can't wear dresses" is a message you hear not just from conservatives but from super-woke progressives nowadays.

I'm glad the trannies are bringing sexism back into vogue.

Man... trannies are so easy to kill. Makes it a non-challenge, really.

Just need to get more creative. Get them to kill each other.

*themselves

50 percent suicide rate, they already do.

Ban trannies. They are a threat to trannies.

FTM can't match men's muscles in those tiny frames

30%+ of muscle lost and collagen changes from six months HRT for MTF

but a garrotte works on anyone if you're quiet enough

Reddit isn't infiltrated by Russian bots it's infested with trannies

idk what this game is but it looks really fucking gay

How the fuck is it gay

fashion is totally a gay thing

Lol k sweetie whatever you say

and so is talking like that

doesn't mean there's anything WRONG with it, it's just super gay

I'm a female.

And the "sweetie" is called sarcasm.

I still don't see how dress up games are gay, tho. This game is female oriented, so if girls play it, I don't see how it's gay.

I'm a female.

I know lol

And the "sweetie" is called sarcasm.

but it's a form of sarcasm appropriated from the LGBT community. an excellent one, mind you, but quite gay nonetheless

Umm it's not sarcasm appropriated to the LGBT community? Idk how you've established this connection or your background on the LGBT community, but as far as I know it's not.

Honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around your standards of what is gay and what isn't. This is literally just a simple game, and you call it gay just because it revolves around fashion. Fashion, in my opinion, is not gay. Anyone, regardless of gender, can enjoy it and participate in it. It's just another art form that deals with clothing.

Fashion, in my opinion, is not gay. Anyone, regardless of gender, can enjoy it and participate in it. It's just another art form that deals with clothing.

Anyone, regardless of gender, can be gay, I'm not following your reasoning sweetie.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Anyone can be gay. It's not specifically fashion itself that makes someone gay.

Women are gay.

It's a dress up doll game...

How the fuck is it gay? It's a dress-up game with a player base of mostly girls and women. And that's the demographic it's aimed at.

How the fuck is it gay? It's a dress-up game

http://got.vg/files/guest/260317_727026030.jpg

it may seem like an innocent game, but the more you play it the more you want to be the girls you dress up.

next thing you know you're cross dressing and taking hormones.

this is part of the japanese gay agenda.

You clearly didn't read the comment that you replied to because they just said that it was female oriented.

If you want to be the girl that dresses up and you're a girl, I can't see how that's gay in any way.

Plus you haven't played the game. There are plenty of male outfits in it too.

you sounds like a fag lol

you sounds ignorant lol

Don't judge others based off of their comments on the internet. I'm a straight female, and using the term "fag" is rather offensive.

fuck off roastie pig dog

Oh, and now you have nothing intelligent to respond with.

At least the OP in this comment thread is respectful to those who debate their view. If you can't be like them, then you should drop out.

Lol roastie pig dog? Gotta save that one for future reference...

If you can't be like them, then you should drop out.

I'll drop you you fucking cow

Wow, a pig, dog, and now a cow? Am i just a whole farm? What's next, a horse? Chicken?

send tiddy

Lmao well now I'm bored of your brainless insults so I'll stop replying. It was fun to see what you tried to come up with though.

look at this woman thinking she could possible be smarter than me

run along now sweetie

I know I am.

Bye!

did i win this argument

https://medium.com/athena-talks/trans-murder-rates-the-data-120b60b19cb4

Male murder rate: 6.6 per 100,000

Female murder rate: 1.8 per 100,000

Trans murder rate: 1.4 per 100,000

It's almost like most trannies are severely mentally ill SJWs with huge victim complexes. They do everything they can to make themselves intolerable.

All the inflated statistics concerning the murder of transgender people I've seen assume that someone was trans because they "acted sorta weird" prior to death.

Besides, being seen as male can't be too much of a detriment for trans people right? No need to confront the fact that they're largely attacked for being perceived as male and breaking out of the, far more rigid than the opposite sex mind you, role set by society. You might have to admit it's not so great being a man. Maybe even worse than being a woman!

let's not forget they also include those the one who decided it would be a good idea to steal a car and then ram through the gates of the NSA headquarters. surprisingly, lead injections were liberally dispensed.

Aren't a bunch of the legit ones also sex workers, a population that has a higher homicide rate independent of trans people?

maybe?

I can't really be assed to look it up, that just seems to be a common theme in the various "local tranny murdered" stories that get circulated around social media.

Anecdotally they also seem disproportionately more likely to be black and live in bad neighborhoods, which is why I chuckle a little when the pasty white agoraphobes that make up internet trans spaces clutch their pearls about it.

I stopped reading at medium.com

smallboy detected

shit I didn’t even notice that

Medium is like Tumblr for seriousposts only

Is that 1.4 per 100,000 trans persons or average persons? Cause trans makes up a fairly small portion of the population.

Did you even open the article?

First I need to know an estimate of the size of the trans population. According to this New York Times article, which is reporting on research done by the Williams institute of law at UCLA, there are approximately 1.4 million trans identified adults in the USA.

<...>

To find out the number of trans people killed in the USA in 2015 I looked at the Wikipedia page, List of Unlawfully Killed Transgender People. There is even a specific section for the United States for 2015. There are 19 people on this list. HRC has already published data for 2016 and in 2016 20 trans people were murdered, so this figure, like the general population murder rates seems reasonably stable.

100,000 * 19 / 1,400,000 = 1.4

Yes and I didn't feel like reading it.

My man

Neither did I, but skipping over it for a couple of seconds was enough to answer your question.

That other random internet guy says the number is closer to six. Clearly there is still a acedemic dispute among the console of random internet guys.

they get into problems here, since trans activists have two claims that are intrinsically related:

1) Trannies are slaughtered wholesale at insane rates 2) Trannies are a larger proportion of the population that anyone thinks.

Unfortunately they can't seem to do basic math and realize that if #2 is true, #1 is even smaller than people calculate -- and it's already quite small. The total number of trannies wacked in the US each year is something like the number of murders in Chicago alone in a single week.

Whoever updates this wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people is fucking committed to the cause, that I'll say.

I really don't care.

yep, oppressed minority of the week and all that.

granted, i am against murder in general, and yeah it sucks to have anyone chopped up and burnt to ashes, but it's not some rallying cry that certain activists make it out to be.

once on facebook i responded with similar calculations (in a nicer way of course) to some shrieking activist and was immediately accused of nazi transphobia. was pretty hilarious, but expected.

facebook

no one to blame but yourself. get off my sub

so true, so true

and fuck you, my sub, bitch. let's step outside and fight.

But Kat Wlliams is a basic bitch. Why bother

Meh, I can see a simple explanation of your assume 1 & 2 are true. Claim that many trans murder victims are not out of the closet or passing fully. Of course, they wouldn't be being killed specifically for being trans then.

aka making shit up with zero evidence? well that does sound like activist tactics to me

This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it

based wiki!

Interesting.

Male rate is 6.6. Female rate is 1.6.

One study says trans is 1.4,other says closer to 6.

I wonder if the second study is only looking at MtF and seeing that the rates closely approximate the regular male rate.

So, turns out even cutting off your dick can't escape the male curse of DEATH.

u/Spinzessin Would you link to comment on this?

Those statistics only cover being killed by other people.

Other things that literally kill transgenders include:

• misgendering

• jokes & memes

• trigger words

• criticism of their AGDQ run

When "deadnaming" is far too accurate a tern then we ever realized.

Then = time

Than = comparison

Than is also happens to be the name of my Vietnamese houseboy.

Degenerate

Aznbussy hater, get out!

/r/drama is an inclusive place. Thinking degenerate is a bad thing is like calling someone gay to insult them. Reclaim your word! Feel your own Power!

Sorry dude, I wasn't thinking clearly. I'm all gacked out to yacht rock at the moment and Than's been playing with firecrackers.

I think the issue that catches the fuss is that a lot of trans murders don't get reported as being "trans" and the old gender/deadname is used for whatever reason, so the 'epidemic' goes unnoticed if you look at pure stats alone.

i’m pretty sure they had a higher murder rate like, 10, 15 years ago

the problem with memeifying stats is they never adjust em

thanks for sharing?

also gas all weebs

you just get better as time goes on

How do you tell when someone's a weeb?

We're fucked.

Hey, buddy, /u/Spinzessin, you do realize that crossdressers exist that don't want to cut their penises off, right?

https://i.imgur.com/a6PEwo5.jpg

fuck off amy

jesus what doesn't get trans people killed these days?

cats? murderbeasts.

chairs? omfg blunt trauma

clouds? suffocation

words? death by papercut

wow, those gay weebs really handled that diplomatically, gotta hand it to em

if dress-up doll games could kill trannies, id have 11,000 hours logged on them in steam

Seems everything gets trannys killed, even just looking at them.

Crossdressers are much more common than trans people. Crossdressers are not trans. Crossers just like to crossdress.

Where is all this trans murdering happening?

Time to impale all the weebs on a wooden stake.