I am not sure which is more cringey, the litany of erroneous assumptions you splayed out or the act of calling upon the student archetype with the intent of derision. Anti-intellectualism, check. src
When people imply they want a white history month I'm always so confused. What history do we have that they're interested in celebrating? The part where we spread across the world like a virus claiming entitlement to other people's shit? What a noble and fearless act, cry everytim
That's like saying "what do black people need an entire month for, celebrating how in certain parts of Africa they practice female genital mutilation?" Every culture has things in it's past that are shitty, and every culture has something worth celebrating. You're just being an insufferable asshole.
There is no white culture. The only reason black culture is a thing in America is because white people shipped them over here and robbed them of their actual cultural identity. If you're white, you can probably trace your lineage back to a European country, which has its own culture. Black people from the US can rarely trace their lineage back to an African country, because nobody bothered to keep track of which country their slaves were from. That's why they have to celebrate black history as a whole, and why celebrating white history is just racist. There only thing most white cultures have in common is that they all fucked someone else over at some point. Am I saying we need to deride white people for that? No. But why celebrate it? Why celebrate the history of white people as a whole when your past isn't a mystery? Celebrate the country your ancestors came from, since you're probably lucky enough to actually know which country that was.
Laughably racist, disgusting opinions. I felt good about what you were saying until:
What history do we have that they're interested in celebrating? The part where we spread across the world like a virus claiming entitlement to other people's shit?
What fucking civilization/race/group didn't attempt to do that? You're mad "white people" were just efficient and effective about it.
And Oh gee, what to celebrate? I don't know... where to begin?
every race across time had slavery until a bunch of white people stood up and said it was immoral and wrong, literally fighting and killing their own families, brother against brother against father, in a brutal civil war to stop it. Why Is this never brought up by people like you? You're just so eager to cast hate and negativity towards white people but it's like you can't imagine saying a good word.
Black culture is fine but white culture is racist/wrong
pro tip: telling one group of people doing something is okay, even worth celebrating, then telling another group they're bad for doing the same thing, is generally nonsensical and makes you look like an asshole.
All white People fucked other people over
I guess you're going to somehow pretend all people, everywhere, did this for tens of thousands of years? Hello???
Ah, the classic "earth was a savage horrible place until white people came along and made it civilized" argument.
Also holy victim complex, batman. Who said I'm casting hate and negativity? I just wish other white people would look at things with an ounce of context, realize we're on top of the world, and stop getting pissed off at other people's attempts at representation. But of course, you view that as racist. You also completely ignored the content of what I said in favor of being angry. Give your keyboard a break, I can feel your adrenaline rushing more and more with every word. Have you ever considered the possibility that you only feel so strongly about pretending institutional racism doesn't exist because you have some kind of deeply embedded white guilt and would like to live in a world where everyone was always equal? Unfortunately that's not how things went down. Entire societies were displaced and treated as property because of white Christian imperialism. All we can do now is try to make up for it. We get the better end of the deal every single day, and yet people still find a reason to complain about representation. Why don't you go write a blog about it, you can title it "My Struggle".
When did I say anything even remotely like "white people are responsible for making the earth civilized"?
Point Me to that.
When did I get pissed off at other people's attempts at representation?
Point Me to that. Point me to these points of concede that you're putting words in my mouth to discredit me.
How did I "ignore the content of what you said?" I literally addressed you entirely and didn't diverge even a little bit from the conversation you started. How is that not addressing what you said?
What?
entire societies were displaced because of white Christian imperialism
Once again. When Was this not the case? Anywhere On earth? Name a single civilization that didn't attempt to expand into another's borders at some point.
all we can do now is try and make up for it
No, I'm good. I'm tired of being derided, talked down to and generally disrespected because I apparently have some magical "privilege" and because my skin happens to be a certain color. The irony of being judged based on my skin color, by people that are apparently upset about people being judged by their skin color, isn't lost on me. Nevermind that i live in abject poverty-I'm just so privileged right?
I have always treated people with respect and I have absolutely nothing to "make up for"
Here's the part where I get bored of having the same conversation yet again with yet another carbon copy redditor, stop responding, and you believe you won the argument
Thank you for admitting to being intentionally dishonest and trying to put words in my mouth/insult me because you can't back up your own illogical viewpoints.
You: I wanna argue, until he beats me at my own game and calls out my dishonesty of course... then I'll disengage and pretend it's because I'm bored !
I donât think thatâs the case. This type of conversation really gets repetitive. It usually goes along the lines of something like this:
Person one goes: Non whites are trying to be represented and heard in a society that favors white people. The issue of white privilege must be addressed and erase, so that all races can finally be equal.
Person two: What?! How can there be white privilege if Iâm poor?! And besides, people are already equal. Slavery ended like billions of years ago. People should get over it.
Person one: Really?! Just talk to any black person for a second and youâll realize that thatâs not the case. Yes, it as come a long way from slavery, but thereâs still a lot to be done.
Person two: Meahh Itâs white genocide! I refuse to acknowledge that the color of my skin brings me advantages. Next youâre gunna say what?! Men and women arenât equal?!
It basically boils down to this. It gets boring eventually.
pro tip: telling one group of people doing something is okay, even worth celebrating, then telling another group they're bad for doing the same thing, is generally nonsensical and makes you look like an asshole.
imagine being this wacky
I guess you're going to somehow pretend all people, everywhere, didnt do this for tens of thousands of years?? Hello???
you know âBlack Historyâ covers a <500-year period where they didnât do any of that, right
There only thing most white cultures have in common is that they all fucked someone else over at some point.
Thanks for pointing this out. If we look at this scientifically, the only reasonable explanation is that lack of melanin in the skin is linked to increased aggression. More proof that mayocide needs to happen NOW.
Oh and btw, what are some cultures that haven't "fucked someone else over at some point"?
My lineage can be traced to Norway. I'm lucky to have the privilege of knowing that, because nobody in my family tree was ever forcibly removed from their home to do hard labor
Have you ever even tried to understand another person's perspective? Having sympathy really isn't that hard. I too used to be a cringy dickhead trolling ess jay double youz epic style, until I realized that if the biggest conceivable problem involving my race is that someone might call me racist, I can't have it that bad
I have no strong feelings about Black History Month and think white pride is stupid, Iâm just amused at watching you self-flagellate. You should think about what sub youâre in before you write a wall of text telling me what I apparently think.
"white" was originally meant for Anglo Saxons - ie British like colonists.
so it depends on what "white" culture you're looking at, ie British, French, German, Italian, Spanish etc
Its a very broad subject. Cant just distill it down to "muh white culture doesnt exist XD" if you are an american, you have "american" culture, and you dont really realize it since you are used to it everyday.
You just provided evidence for my point though? Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain are all actual areas with their own culture. A white person in America will know what country "their people" are from.
Similarly, there are tons of countries in Africa with their own cultures. Every black person in America today is descended from one of those countries. The problem is, they have no idea where "their people" are from, because nobody kept a record. So, left with no cultural identity to be proud of, they instead band together around their skin color, which is something they can be sure they have in common.
You hear white Americans all the time saying they're "25% German" or "part Irish" or whatever. But you never hear a black American say they're "25% Ugandan" or "part Ethiopian". Because they really have no idea. Their history was stolen from them, so they have to be proud of their general appearance instead. This is why being proud of the fact that you're white is racist, because anyone with "white pride" is failing to understand the reasons why "black pride" actually has to exist.
Please think about this, because when I first heard about it it was something I'd never even considered before, and it really helped me put perceived "white discrimination" into context.
meant that whatever you were trying to say, was pointless... but yeah lets focus on words
white pride is racist
wewlad
wow I talk to all sorts of people who are proud of their culture, but man I cant be proud of some of the heritage I do know, which is Southern Germany and general rural NW USA culture. how the fuck you got that im all for white pride is retarded lol
Oh, I don't know. How about the part where white people created western civilization and literally every scientific and technological discovery, or when whites ended slavery and essentially forced the rest of the world to stop slavery.
retards who still believe the âmen are heavily discriminated against in custody battlesâ myth are as bad as the people who still believe the âwomen only make 79 cents to a dollarâ myth. Both studies are really stupid and avoid mentioning a ton of factors that contribute way more to the result than sexism
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-03-08
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1 Why_TERFs_Are_Right 2018-03-08
That whole thread is just maximum butthurt all round.
u/R1zzles congrats on pissing off men, women, feminists, anti-feminists, and graph enthusiasts all in a single post. You have my deepest admiration.
1 InsaneHuckleberry 2018-03-08
/u/R1zzles has done more for drama than any of our mods. I say we mod him!
1 itoucheditforacookie 2018-03-08
... /u/xNotch
1 xNotch 2018-03-08
I'd be offended if I wasn't honored.
1 itoucheditforacookie 2018-03-08
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1 spritanium 2018-03-08
When people imply they want a white history month I'm always so confused. What history do we have that they're interested in celebrating? The part where we spread across the world like a virus claiming entitlement to other people's shit? What a noble and fearless act, cry everytim
1 onetruemod 2018-03-08
That's like saying "what do black people need an entire month for, celebrating how in certain parts of Africa they practice female genital mutilation?" Every culture has things in it's past that are shitty, and every culture has something worth celebrating. You're just being an insufferable asshole.
1 FloydTheChicken 2018-03-08
IIRC, Black History Month is a US thing only. Doesn't have a lot to do with Africa.
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
There is no white culture. The only reason black culture is a thing in America is because white people shipped them over here and robbed them of their actual cultural identity. If you're white, you can probably trace your lineage back to a European country, which has its own culture. Black people from the US can rarely trace their lineage back to an African country, because nobody bothered to keep track of which country their slaves were from. That's why they have to celebrate black history as a whole, and why celebrating white history is just racist. There only thing most white cultures have in common is that they all fucked someone else over at some point. Am I saying we need to deride white people for that? No. But why celebrate it? Why celebrate the history of white people as a whole when your past isn't a mystery? Celebrate the country your ancestors came from, since you're probably lucky enough to actually know which country that was.
1 JustOneProletariat 2018-03-08
Laughably racist, disgusting opinions. I felt good about what you were saying until:
What fucking civilization/race/group didn't attempt to do that? You're mad "white people" were just efficient and effective about it.
And Oh gee, what to celebrate? I don't know... where to begin?
every race across time had slavery until a bunch of white people stood up and said it was immoral and wrong, literally fighting and killing their own families, brother against brother against father, in a brutal civil war to stop it. Why Is this never brought up by people like you? You're just so eager to cast hate and negativity towards white people but it's like you can't imagine saying a good word.
pro tip: telling one group of people doing something is okay, even worth celebrating, then telling another group they're bad for doing the same thing, is generally nonsensical and makes you look like an asshole.
I guess you're going to somehow pretend all people, everywhere, did this for tens of thousands of years? Hello???
Hello??
1 pepperouchau 2018-03-08
You rn
1 JustOneProletariat 2018-03-08
Lol mkay then xD
This reminds me why do you never see light duty? Or ketchup that isn't "extra fancy?"
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
Ah, the classic "earth was a savage horrible place until white people came along and made it civilized" argument.
Also holy victim complex, batman. Who said I'm casting hate and negativity? I just wish other white people would look at things with an ounce of context, realize we're on top of the world, and stop getting pissed off at other people's attempts at representation. But of course, you view that as racist. You also completely ignored the content of what I said in favor of being angry. Give your keyboard a break, I can feel your adrenaline rushing more and more with every word. Have you ever considered the possibility that you only feel so strongly about pretending institutional racism doesn't exist because you have some kind of deeply embedded white guilt and would like to live in a world where everyone was always equal? Unfortunately that's not how things went down. Entire societies were displaced and treated as property because of white Christian imperialism. All we can do now is try to make up for it. We get the better end of the deal every single day, and yet people still find a reason to complain about representation. Why don't you go write a blog about it, you can title it "My Struggle".
1 JustOneProletariat 2018-03-08
When did I say anything even remotely like "white people are responsible for making the earth civilized"?
Point Me to that.
When did I get pissed off at other people's attempts at representation?
Point Me to that. Point me to these points of concede that you're putting words in my mouth to discredit me.
How did I "ignore the content of what you said?" I literally addressed you entirely and didn't diverge even a little bit from the conversation you started. How is that not addressing what you said?
What?
Once again. When Was this not the case? Anywhere On earth? Name a single civilization that didn't attempt to expand into another's borders at some point.
No, I'm good. I'm tired of being derided, talked down to and generally disrespected because I apparently have some magical "privilege" and because my skin happens to be a certain color. The irony of being judged based on my skin color, by people that are apparently upset about people being judged by their skin color, isn't lost on me. Nevermind that i live in abject poverty-I'm just so privileged right? I have always treated people with respect and I have absolutely nothing to "make up for"
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
Here's the part where I get bored of having the same conversation yet again with yet another carbon copy redditor, stop responding, and you believe you won the argument
1 JustOneProletariat 2018-03-08
Hahaha.
Thank you for admitting to being intentionally dishonest and trying to put words in my mouth/insult me because you can't back up your own illogical viewpoints.
You: I wanna argue, until he beats me at my own game and calls out my dishonesty of course... then I'll disengage and pretend it's because I'm bored !
1 FloydTheChicken 2018-03-08
I donât think thatâs the case. This type of conversation really gets repetitive. It usually goes along the lines of something like this:
Person one goes: Non whites are trying to be represented and heard in a society that favors white people. The issue of white privilege must be addressed and erase, so that all races can finally be equal.
Person two: What?! How can there be white privilege if Iâm poor?! And besides, people are already equal. Slavery ended like billions of years ago. People should get over it.
Person one: Really?! Just talk to any black person for a second and youâll realize that thatâs not the case. Yes, it as come a long way from slavery, but thereâs still a lot to be done.
Person two: Meahh Itâs white genocide! I refuse to acknowledge that the color of my skin brings me advantages. Next youâre gunna say what?! Men and women arenât equal?!
It basically boils down to this. It gets boring eventually.
1 FloydTheChicken 2018-03-08
Totally agree with you. Just listen to a black person speaking about their life to see the diferences.
1 grungebot5000 2018-03-08
imagine being this wacky
you know âBlack Historyâ covers a <500-year period where they didnât do any of that, right
1 shallowm 2018-03-08
Just LMAO @ "white culture"
1 -huitzilopochtli- 2018-03-08
So wh*tes needed a devastating war and two hundred years to figure out dark-skinned people were also human? Not exactly making a strong case here.
1 Redactor0 2018-03-08
Thanks for pointing this out. If we look at this scientifically, the only reasonable explanation is that lack of melanin in the skin is linked to increased aggression. More proof that mayocide needs to happen NOW.
Oh and btw, what are some cultures that haven't "fucked someone else over at some point"?
1 grungebot5000 2018-03-08
thereâs like three of em, I think the Moriori are the most famous
1 Redactor0 2018-03-08
Thanks fam. That was actually an interesting wikipedia read.
1 pm_me_jumbo_jets 2018-03-08
I hope for your own sake youâre not white
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
My lineage can be traced to Norway. I'm lucky to have the privilege of knowing that, because nobody in my family tree was ever forcibly removed from their home to do hard labor
Have you ever even tried to understand another person's perspective? Having sympathy really isn't that hard. I too used to be a cringy dickhead trolling ess jay double youz epic style, until I realized that if the biggest conceivable problem involving my race is that someone might call me racist, I can't have it that bad
1 pm_me_jumbo_jets 2018-03-08
I have no strong feelings about Black History Month and think white pride is stupid, Iâm just amused at watching you self-flagellate. You should think about what sub youâre in before you write a wall of text telling me what I apparently think.
1 Bastamourne 2018-03-08
Lol wtf. What have wytes ever done that is worth celebrating? Don't even bother answerin kid.....
1 onetruemod 2018-03-08
I'm going to choose to believe that you're being a parody of something.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-03-08
whites are not people. Itâs like celebrating the culture of a bunch of cows or wolves. Theyâre animals
1 onetruemod 2018-03-08
Gr8 b8 m8
1 ay_what_up2 2018-03-08
whatever you say, nerd
1 reptilia987 2018-03-08
Slavery
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-03-08
Sound like mayo apologism to me.
1 onetruemod 2018-03-08
I should probably be offended, but that's honestly just fucking hilarious. Mayo is the best you could come up with? Seriously?
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-03-08
Do you know what sub you are in? And what goal we have?
Pro-tip, your kind isn't welcome here.
1 onetruemod 2018-03-08
Okay I get it, you're not being serious. There are easier ways to say so.
1 grungebot5000 2018-03-08
thatâs not history you dumb cac
1 saddertadder 2018-03-08
If the only thing you know about "white culture" was muh colonialism you've been brainwashed to fuckall and back
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
So what is white culture then? It seems funny nobody can actually answer this without sounding racist lmao
1 saddertadder 2018-03-08
"white" was originally meant for Anglo Saxons - ie British like colonists.
so it depends on what "white" culture you're looking at, ie British, French, German, Italian, Spanish etc
Its a very broad subject. Cant just distill it down to "muh white culture doesnt exist XD" if you are an american, you have "american" culture, and you dont really realize it since you are used to it everyday.
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
You just provided evidence for my point though? Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain are all actual areas with their own culture. A white person in America will know what country "their people" are from.
Similarly, there are tons of countries in Africa with their own cultures. Every black person in America today is descended from one of those countries. The problem is, they have no idea where "their people" are from, because nobody kept a record. So, left with no cultural identity to be proud of, they instead band together around their skin color, which is something they can be sure they have in common.
You hear white Americans all the time saying they're "25% German" or "part Irish" or whatever. But you never hear a black American say they're "25% Ugandan" or "part Ethiopian". Because they really have no idea. Their history was stolen from them, so they have to be proud of their general appearance instead. This is why being proud of the fact that you're white is racist, because anyone with "white pride" is failing to understand the reasons why "black pride" actually has to exist.
Please think about this, because when I first heard about it it was something I'd never even considered before, and it really helped me put perceived "white discrimination" into context.
1 saddertadder 2018-03-08
What an interesting tangential thought essay to a pointless point that ignores American culture
I could use that same point as the melting point of Americans that have a tough time tracing their lineage because of my dad is an orphan.
All those counties also have smaller regions with differing specific culture. for example, catalonia in Spain
All this is purity spiraling PC bullshit
Break the propaganda of being white guilted fed to you in HS - its bullshit
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
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1 saddertadder 2018-03-08
meant that whatever you were trying to say, was pointless... but yeah lets focus on words
wewlad
wow I talk to all sorts of people who are proud of their culture, but man I cant be proud of some of the heritage I do know, which is Southern Germany and general rural NW USA culture. how the fuck you got that im all for white pride is retarded lol
1 darth-milhouse 2018-03-08
Well, we did basically invent everything. Except for peanuts.
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
You haven't invented shit, you're a neckbeard who is too pathetic to even leave your name attached to this comment lol
1 LOLREDDIThahah 2018-03-08
Oh, I don't know. How about the part where white people created western civilization and literally every scientific and technological discovery, or when whites ended slavery and essentially forced the rest of the world to stop slavery.
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
Shitty troll or shitty person? I'm gonna say both
1 LOLREDDIThahah 2018-03-08
Slavery is still going on today in Africa. Abolition was founded in western countries. Don't know why you think I'm trolling here.
1 spritanium 2018-03-08
Ok so you're just racist then, cool
1 LOLREDDIThahah 2018-03-08
Yep. You would've criticized me if anything I said was false, but it is all basically true.
Remember: descriptive first, normative later.
1 Redactor0 2018-03-08
u/fungoid_sorcerer I'm gonna start a conspiracy theory about this. I bet the sovereign citizens would believe it.
1 KateUptonsCumback 2018-03-08
MAYOCIDE WHEN?
1 ay_what_up2 2018-03-08
retards who still believe the âmen are heavily discriminated against in custody battlesâ myth are as bad as the people who still believe the âwomen only make 79 cents to a dollarâ myth. Both studies are really stupid and avoid mentioning a ton of factors that contribute way more to the result than sexism
1 ztoundas 2018-03-08
This is why we need the mayocide.