Nationalism in my /r/Anarchism?! It's likelier than you think.

68  2018-03-21 by CultOfCuck

59 comments

Well there's a difference between nationalism and kurdistan when the kurds have been oppressed for so long and never had a safe place of their own

Wtf i love Blut und Boden now!

Well there's a difference between nationalism and Israel when the Jews have been oppressed for so long and never had a safe place of their own

I would be interested in their response to this version.

The difference here is Palestinians also have the same right to that piece of land.

Arabs and Turks don't have the same right to those lands. Check mate nationalists.

Funny thing is that the Kurds ethnically cleansed the Armenians and Greeks from those same lands like a hundred years ago.

Duh, it was there in the thread already. Lol, missed that initially.

Lol and yet these people hate Israel. /u/tniuQ the Buddhist people have been oppressed and ethnically and religiously cleansed from Afghanistan, most of Northern India and Bangladesh by Muslims. Do the Burmese not have a right to preserve their sanctuary?

The reason for all the rojava support is that rojava is a in the middle of a socialist revolution. Maybe you didn't know that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but burmese are not socialist.

israel was a socialist country at the beginning

Yeah right.... Well it ain't anymore.

collective farms and ruled by people who were members of european communist and socialist parties? their army and intelligence services run by jews from the soviet union or with ties to it? pretty commie to me fam

Yeah okay. But not right now is what I'm saying.

so what's to stop rojava from doing exactly the same thing?

Burma was on the Burmese Way to Socialism program from 1962-1988, it managed to turn one of Asia's richest countries into one of its poorest

Weird how horseshoe theory leads us to both advocate for the mass execution of anarchists.

It really feels like they just want to play dictator themselves. I was astonished that they turned into tankies when Venezuela was cracking down on protesters.

Every commie wants to be on the politburo.

Was it Mussolini who said 'every anarchist is a failed dictator'?

yes

His dad was an anarchist.

Maybe the whole origin of fascism is daddy issues.

Benny himself used to be a commie. God knows what issues he really had.

And he was an Italian, thus enbodying the complete trifecta of failure.

Apparently he worked very hard himself, which is highly unusual for an Italian.

I've heard it as "every anarchist is a baffled dictator" which works a lot better because failing at things requires trying and I think we all know most of these anarkiddies aren't likely to try anything beyond bitch about things on the internet.

Every commie knows they'll be on the politburo.

Fixed

It feels like? Each and every one of them thinks they'll be someone of great importance. Delusions of grandeur are a core part of anarchism and Communism.

The best part in this whole thing for me? The eldest basement dwelling son of a close family. Went real anarchist / socialist. He went and worked in South Asia for about half a year and got recruited by the Kurds to fight for anarchism and help nation building. He went to fight for his political ideals. His announcement came on Facebook when he was already there with a picture in which he was in full military fatigues and holding a rifle. Looking like some operator.

Well he came back early this month (hadn’t completed 3/4 of a year) , disillusioned by what’s happening there. Now reading all the stuff you guys are saying. Lol twice the man those anarcho kiddies are yet came to the same conclusion as the people calling it nationalist.

Property is robbery necessary to secure the existence of our people and a future for Kurdish Children!

Anarchism is the political spectrum for the mentally ill.

Don't exclude communists and Nazis like that! They're all for the mentally ill.

And children. And those with the critical thinking skills of children.

If only the Erdoğan bots weren't, somehow, even worse.

Haukur Hilmarsson on the right was a well known protester in Iceland. His most famous act was to climb unto the Parliament building during a protest to hang a ‘Bónus’ grocery bag on top of the flag pole, Bónus being the largest supermarket chain in Iceland.

/r/madlads

Lmao why the supermarket chain? Are they going out there with 18 year old store clerks, armed with butcher’s machetes, and killing children?

Fucking Iceland? What is there to protest besides the weather?

I was never big on the Kurdistan Meme.

Yeah the Kurds do good fucking up IS. But as an anarchist I try to at least not have a strong opinion on the existence of a kurdish state.

but as a retard I try to at least not have a strong opinion on the existence of a Kurdish state.

And we wish you wouldn’t have an opinion on anything tbqh

But as an anarchist

I wondered what smelled so bad.

i shower every day

Do you shower in piss or horse semen?

I shower in nice hot watcher with a well smelling shower gel and head and shoulders for my hair which I keep clean and combed.

I also try to dress well and wash my clothing regularly. I even have a job I attend to every day and pay my own bills and never got any government aid.

LOL wagecuck

I truly am. sucks tbh

Odds /u/battilocchio has a job?

With mindset as this:

You're someone who is supporting a nationalist movement. In order to do so you have to abandon class. Go join the ranks of bourgeois apologists.

Hmmmmm....

/u/spleeniator does it get difficult resolving the cognitive dissonance of being an “anarchist” that supports capitalist states?

Not really, no.

We can spend our entire lives chasing perfection and ignoring what is good. Kobane is good enough in my eyes, with commitees to make sure people are represented and what appears to be a genuine attempt to create a truly socialist state.

Pragmatism comes first.

I guess supporting the international brigades would also make me a hypocrite since some of them were fihhting for a free Catalonia! Up against the wall with everyone who is not my particular shade of red and black!

So yes. I give my full supoort to the aocualist revolution in Kurdistan and to my comrades who are dying dor a better future, even if the state they are dying for is not quite as perfect as i would like: its certainly better than its enemies.

Lol

Up against the wall with everyone who is not my particular shade of red and black!

tbf that's exactly what happened in Republican Spain. Also how come ethno-nationalism is alright with anarchists when it's done by "the oppressed"? You know they'll just turn into oppressors themselves, right?

Considering the focus they have on minority representation and workers councils I doubt it.

And i am not denying that in Spain there were plenty just as willing to shoot anarchists as fascists, its ome of the reasons the civil war went the way it did. But instead of re fighting decades old battles those of us who are genuinely left wing should support Rojava.

Back in my day anarchism and statism were antonyms

Thats a lot of words to say "I'm a bourgeois apologist"

Fair enough. Life is full of contradictions. I run a boardgame shop. That doesnt mean that overall i dont hate capitalism or wish for a more equitable way of running things, it simply means that right now i have no choice but to exist within the current paradigm and in order to exist i must survive.

Instead of holding out and refusing to support any revolution until it is global i think its perfectly acceptable to, in the short term, supoort genuine steps in the right direction (such as anti-capitalist socialist states with a major emphasis on minorities, feminism and anti-racism)

The world sucks. Some people are fighting, and dying, trying to make the world a better place. This aint even bullshit reformism, this is a genuine attempt at a socialist revolution.

Tldr: think what you like mate. Continue being a better anarchist than me. Have fun with that. But when push comes to shove i hope you join the rest of us om the barricades instead of sitting back and going 'well actually...'

As an annarco-communist who hates racism and America, I proudly support an ethnostate that was literally created to be a pentagon puppet.

You see, sometimes neoliberals bombing brown people can be a good thing.

blonde mayo can't lift 10 pounds with Stalin pin

WHAT A FREEDOM FIGHTER. Rest in piss.

Those are 2 very white people

You will find that this is most often the case with the modern far left.

Mayocide will fix the SJW problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism

i hate to say it, but i think the members of that subreddit dedicated to a broad, abstract political ideology might be tards

National-anarchism

National-anarchism is a radical, anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist and anti-statist ideology. First-wave national-anarchists advocate that different ethnic and racial groups should peacefully coexist by developing separately in their own confederations of autonomous tribal communes within a post-capitalist stateless society.

The term national-anarchism dates back as far as the 1920s. The few scholars who have studied national-anarchism conclude that it represents a further evolution in the thinking of the radical right rather than an entirely new dimension.


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Aren't they all ancoms?

seems like it, but ain’t on the sidebar

Lol Kurds got biji'd out of afrin as soon as uncle sam stopped providing them with air support, rly makes u think 🤔. Also I thought /r/@ was against us imperialism 🤔🇺🇸🤔

Someone should tell the idiots who are invoking Palestine to defend Rojava that Palestinians support Turkey

Thanks, currently new to marxism.

/u/LesComrades lol it's got a larpy username good start. Don't worry you'll fit in fine there you'll get used to the constant infighting.

Yeah, i admit the name is larpy. When i started this account i was some weird ussr apologist. Glad to admit i am no longer one.

Hey good for you.