Spiders are no where near the danger of snakes

/u/ModernTarantula

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Worldwide there are 90000 fatal snakebites but perhaps 6 deaths in Brazil by spider and 3 "high risk" bites in Australia. That means need treatment for risk of death.

In the United States snakes are number 1 killer dogs #2. Spiders don't even rate because they don't kill and maybe 12 people need help

And this?

Sure I can edit

Your original post was a made up statistic, and now you're changing your defense. The facts are, my very rational fear of spider bites statistically backs my original argument, it's more likely I get bit by a spider more than once a year, and even more likely I die Source

Bit sure but die no. No deaths in nearly 50 years from the only spider in the US with a history of fatal bites.

Here is where I got stat

I wasn't going to reply since you used a blog to argue multiple scholarly articles with resources cited. And the only thing about no deaths from spider bites is specific to the black widow. I thought of you this morning as I walked into my shed and caught a brown recluse. Sitting in a jar right next to me rn. Still no snakes. Ps. I live in the game reserve and both are in abundance. The odds of being bit by a spider and brushing it off as a minor abrasion would be more likely than being bit by a snake and thinking that. Both bites, unless in a deadly location (above the heart), result In death by blood infection usually. The fact that more people die per year from spider bites than snakes, on top of their size, pain of bite, and heightened chance of contraction of sepsis, leads to a rational fear of death by arachnid. To argue something literally the size of a fingernail that leads to more death due to a variety of factors, such as, the population, variety, severity of original bite, and so on, is something that is not rational to be wary of? A spider bite can be confused with many insect bites and go unnoticed, which is why people are likely to contact sepsis, I assume. A snake, however, is almost undeniably going to register as something more than a ant or wasp, in relevance to pain. Unless bitten by a coral snake, both the spider and snake will lead to sepsis and eventually kill you if left untreated. Treated, both are not fatal, unless extreme circumstances are at play.

Venom act either as neurotoxin or hematoxin. Sepsis is incorrect. You chose Florida for info but neglected their page on Spiders. No "wildlife preserve" Recluse. And no mention of fatal. Thus scholarly article says 27 snakebite deaths in 5 years

I'm done. Now you're putting words in my mouth. I clearly stated that the venom of both the snake and spider are not lethal. Sepsis is infection of blood, which happens if both bites go untreated.

Which, as I said, and other research groups around the us, is why more people die from spiders in the us vs snakes. You're going to fucking know you're bit by a snake. Not always true with a spider that stings less than a wasp when bit.

Take time Read the scholarly article or perhaps give me more than a table. You've set up the impossible t prove. A mystery spider bit someone and they died of an infection. That is a no Spider involved story. People want reasons for skin infection but most mrsa and necrotizing fasciitis have no source. Definitely not snake or spiderbite.

I gave you, at least 2 very reliable sources. You gave me, blogs, made up statistics, constant misquotes, and irrelevant information. What even is your argument? I provided the fucking table because you're clearly not reading the sources associated.

The thing that bugs me about spiders is that they're meant to kill flies and other pests that can cause disease, but yet people will stick them in a glass tank in their own homes.

Like they're pretty much designed to be outside a clean house, so why would anyone keep their "spider bro" locked inside?

In Afghanistan, my buddy woke up to a camel spider halfway through the bottom of his foot, literally took like a half inch layer of skin from it.

lmao this never happened, u/doomhax you lying pussy

Your word against mine.

Lmao, another jackass lying about “muh service record” but he literally admits to being afraid of spiders

Well, I have records posted in my profile. I'm gonna leave it at this, who tf cares what you're scared of. I don't like surprises, spiders surprise me, if your actually read everything instead of one comment, you would have known that. I didn't argue with the people too ignorant to even research something and instead threw insults on the op, and I won't here. Enjoy your shit karma.

I-I’m not scared, I’m surprised! B-believe me, please!

Lmao weed really does make you retarded

Since you want to run your mouth, Proof, something you clearly aren't able to provide.

How did you lose the ends of those fingers? Snake or spider bite?

Lol

Learn to make inline replies, you jackanapes. I don’t get that glorious endorphin rush from seeing that (1) on my inbox icon if you start a new top-level comment.

I take it back, clearly you were in the army. I suspect you were in the elite Warehouse Sweeping Corps. Do you have any war stories about fighting back waves of arthropods with nothing but a broom and 10kg of the taxpayers’ plastique?

Bitch, read what I did.

It says you trained towelies to use walkie-talkies and unloaded crates from cargo planes.

Hey, look at that, again, you didn't read the entire thing. I also was on over 200 foot patrols and flew a puma during. I also was only with 20 Americans and over 500 locals imbedded in a village. I ran over 200 cas missions(close air support). You should get of the keyboard.

And yet here you are, trying to deflect from the fact that you’re afraid of spiders.

I'm also afraid of explosions, gunfire, large crowds, and getting bit by my snakes. What's your point. It's rational to fear things that can cause permanent damage to your health. You think you "got"me, but I have proof I've faced my fears, Do something with your life.

spiders are the same as being shot at

jfc mate it’s a bug

that's the best you can come up with? You quoted me with words I never said. You're literally making shit up, grasping for straws. Pathetic.

afraid of bugs

Another made up quote. Afraid of spider bites.

afraid of bugs 🕷🕷🕷

Lol, have a good day man. Better luck next time.

That's not what this argument is about. I was called a liar about my service. I don't keep medical records of other people. Who does. You're title isn't even directly related to the argument you just presented me. What part of my original argument suggest towards alpha male? I think you just don't like veterans and have no real experience so you think by making this a public matter it will prove your point. Not one person in the original post showed hatred towards veterans, except you, on a different sub. I didn't use my military experience to support my rational. I used facts and statistics, provided sources, and clearly separated my opinions. You are just talking shit. I even, on this post stated "it's your word against mine".

I edited my op to direct it toward the person it was meant. Also, I haven't once said I had proof, again, it's an experience. Tf I care if you believe me or not. On top of my experience, I provided statistical data to support my rational. That's what I stated Here, Here2, and Here 3

You're getting tied up on something I've said I had no proof of. You are claiming this is my sole argument, that is a damn lie. You either didn't fully read, or you have comprehension issues.

Alright, that was funny right there.

An entire sub dedicated to spiders, how the fuck do they not get plagued by spider man memes??

Lmao.