/r/MensLib2

their tagline: twice the number of X-chromosomes!

/r/menslibbutgood

No my one is better

/r/MensLibs

/r/mensribs

That's a sub for traditionalist women actually.

don't worry they'll still make fun of incels though you make it sound like a bad thing. OP, are you an incel? don't worry, this subbie won't kinkshame.

ya hear that /u/aliceunknown /u/normie_girl /u/ladyvetinari

Jewish people aren't mayos.

I'm not mayo, I'm jewish. 😡

Potato potahto

What is a mayo anyways?

I am practically an incel and don't recommend it.

Well I am not a virgin but my lasat sexual and romantic relationship was in 2008. so yeah.

Well I never had anything to do with that community. It's merely just a fact that I am 10 years+ alone n shit.

I don't think I missed out on any community :^)

sounds like a swell dude

Wasn't the girl also like 15 too?

Jesus dude get your shit together

I am 2 months on a dry spell and I already feel like killing myself

Why 10 years?

hard to say.

After my last broke up with me because she cheated with her ex on me, I kinda just didn't met anyone I either wanted to be with or was single.

I fell in love a couple of times but they always had partners and so i was just forever alone.

Also i have a crippling panic disorder which makes it impossible for me to go out at night or be around large amounts of people.

Oh shit

Good luck fam, I dont think you should give up though

Why has it been so long?

I answered this to another person in this comment chain.

Sorry, I mostly skim threads on this sub lol.

it's fine Im just too lazy to explain it again lol

Hope things pick up for you :/

Don't associate with those guys. And for your own mental health stay away from the forum, it won't do you any good.

Associating with Gussy was the worst mistake of my life.

I've been kinkshamed on here. I should have reported him. :(

Asexual men should be like the men least offended by virgin shaming.

Yeah, the men who are preoccupied with it are the ones who don't want to be virgins. Asexual men aren't going to give a shit. Once again /r/menslib winds itself up over something that doesn't even matter. What a fucking shithole. Most of the regulars there should be banned from EVER giving life advice to men.

It's funny when you bring that sub up with TrollX and TwoXers, and watch them defend it.

I think most people don't see just how horrible it is until they visit. I've seen its praises sung on other non-political/sociocultural subs, and people do genuinely think that it's a place for men to discuss their issues without any redpill-type thought slipping in.

It is important in these cases to correct them, lest we end up with more /r/menslib victims.

I got banned from SRD for this comment chain, lol.

Well SRD's view of men is the same as TrollX/menslib/Ghazi.

Anyone not banned from SRD will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. Be glad.

[I mod menslib. The amount of sewage we bail out of the new submissions every week would fill a lake.

[...]

People accuse mods of curated communities of being some kind of tyrant overlords infringing on their free-speech and pitting users in arenas below to execute (ban) at will because we enjoy our mad, unchained power.

The reality is we're the people under the bleachers picking up the garbage before it starts to stink. We're the people patting people down for clubs and knives at the door. We're just trying to make the conversations better. We're frequently overworked and unpaid and get no perks, but at least we stopped taking the insults personally a long, long time ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/7xvt5t/a_user_is_not_happy_with_rmenslibs_new_moderation/dudbnvc/)

Yes, being an internet moderator is a lot like being a nightclub bouncer, isn't it.

Insults on the internet are literally the same as guns, you nigger faggot

u/bigangrydinosaur, do you often cry about not being paid for your internet volunteer position, and do you have any concept of how ridiculous this makes you sound?

Follow up question: are you aware of how much saying you totally aren't affected by insults makes you sound incredibly butthurt about insults?

unpaid and get no perks

And here I thought that being able to smugly wield your petty power over everyone else was enough payment

Ahhh, that whole thread was pretty jiggly. Make sure to use the Removeddit extension for the full monty.

Menslib/RedPill make one of those puzzles where you have to cross your eyes and then the answer pops out.

Now that's quite a radical view from a SubredditDrama mod, isn't it Miss Snally 😈 ........ ......

Lol

It's not radical to think that a place that makes people ashamed of being their gender is disgusting. What the regular posters are doing to the vulnerable men there is sick. It also doesn't help that they freely allow women to have an elevated voice there. Almost all of which seem to benefit deeply from 'traditional' gender roles as bored housewives.

Hey, I was just shitposting.

Honoured Miss Snallygaster,

I agree with you with regards to how modern patriarchal culture is rendering femininity extinct by way of causing women to abide "traditional" gender roles. When you think that there aren't differences between men and women, you commit violence against femininity. Rather than acknowledging it as being as good as masculinity, you shame them for it, forcing them into submissive positions or trying to imitate masculinity.

Sincerely, Miss Pitterpatterwater.

Dearest Pitterpatterwater,

By Miss Martindale, I must apologise- I must have let my emotions overcome me. I devalued sacred Femininity by erroneously suggesting that men who are rid of their masculinity aren't greater than they were before.

Best Wishes,
Snallygaster

I've fortunately missed that sub, what do the regular posters do to vulnerable men there?

Now that's quite a radical view from a SubredditDrama mod, isn't it Miss Snally 😈 ........ ......

Lol

The thing is, redpill are assholes, but at least they like men.

Men's lib is just for self-hating men who want to be women.

Do redpillers really like men, though? They all hate themselves and view other men as competition. I guess they like the concept of masculinity, tho.

It's like the reverse of modern-day nazis. They hate international jewry individual men but claim to be ok with individual jews who don't get too uppity masculinity.

They all hate themselves and view other men as competition

Not really.

The essence of Redpill is the idea that they are brilliant savants who have seen the "truth" and are now, like a group of modern Prometheuses, bringing this truth back for others to be enlightened thereof. If they saw other men as competition, why would they proselytize so hard?

preach it

They seem like a bunch of whingey bitches that are applying all of the lessons of feminism to whining about being a man. If you cant beat em, and all that

Nah, that's the MRA shtick. Menslibbers are just male feminists.

What does the good man project fall under?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-did-the-good-men-project-publish-a-blog-by-an-unrepentant-and-unconvicted-rapist-8406311.html

Male feminist it is, then.

the ones who don't want to be virgins.

so... incels

Didn't you know anything that could possibly be perceived as an insult is now no longer okay to even think, no matter what the target of that insult thinks about it?

They don't want to be asexual, they just call themselves that for the sake of social dignity.

"Asexual" = can't get laid (incel), but I'll pretend it's my sexual orientation.

I have a hard time believing that asexuality is a real thing. I could see it as a consequence of abuse of bad experience or coping but like legit asexuality?

I guess I am wrong but it seems sooooo counter to everything that it means to be human.

ON I also once saw a documentary about a dude who never hit puberty and is asexual, but mostly because the sex hormones never really got to his brain etc. Basically he is sexually developed like a child.

Actually counter to everything it means to be a living organism.

well except for all the asexual organisms which just do mitosis.

Mitosis is for incels

Gays and lesbians must not be real either. They’re rejecting all means of propagating their genes, they’re an evolutionary dead end. They must all be mentally ill abuse victims.

if i had to bet i would say that most asexual people did go for a shitty experience and werent born asexual

Didn't the mice in that "mouse utopia" experiment stop mating?

sounds interesting, can you link to anything related to this?

I only heard about an experiment where apes were given some tool to instantly get an orgasm and they would just constantly use it lol.

Sure, here you go: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/

quote:

“the beautiful ones” ... didn’t breed or fight or do anything but eat and groom and sleep. When the population started declining the beautiful ones were spared from violence and death, but had completely lost touch with social behaviors, including having sex or caring for their young.

The lesson is that it is possible for a "positive" environment (meaning, plenty of food and living space) to fuck up a mammal to the point where it stops caring about sex.

What I dont understand about this experiment is why these were utopias?

Anyone who has pet mice or rats (I have rats for example) basically offers their pets limitless food and incredibly secure and easy living conditions.

And yet still they fuck everything in sight.

they probably bad mouse video games and tons of porn that killed their sex drive

the only thing that kills my sex drive are the SSRI I take

That makes me curious if there are any studies where mice were shown mice porn.

they show Pandas Panda-Porn in captivity along with hormone injections when they try to get them to bump uglies so I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the same for other mammals

How would you define utopia?

I mean the real meaning of the word is "unreachable place" but usually it means "perfect place of bliss" for most people.

Given that any pet mouse usually has a much better life than any outside mouse they should all eventually become these super NEETs, but my rats fucked each other the moment they could.

Given that any pet mouse usually has a much better life than any outside mouse they should all eventually become these super NEETs

The claim that you're arguing against here is: "any time a mouse is given a 'good life' it becomes asexual"

That is not the claim that I made. The claim I made was, "there exists certain environmental conditions that cause some rats to become asexual"

See, my claim is in response to you saying that asexuality can't exist (presumably because the mating instinct is too powerful - and by the way, I agree that it is among the most powerful instincts evolution has devised). My response to you was not, "every time you do X, you get Y" (which you paraphrased as "all eventually become these super NEETs"). My response was more like, "asexuality can exist."

Here's an analogy. Imagine someone says, "I don't believe addiction is a real thing - if drugs are causing a problem in your life, you'll just stop taking drugs." So then I respond, "there exist processes in the brain that can cause cravings sufficiently strong that we would call that 'addiction.'"

Then you reply, "if that were true, then everyone who has ever done cocaine would be an addict!" No. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that everyone who tries coke becomes addicted. I'm saying that addiction is a real thing, and that there exist conditions to cause it.

Looking back at the original study, it appears that one of the important factors contributing to asexuality was the number of mice that an individual interacted with. In other words, it's more than what you're doing with your pets, when you give them free food. I don't necessarily know what the problem was, but it seems to be more than just the food.

That sounds like witch-talk to me.

After a certain point that stops working, kinda like how it took a while after vidya came to home consoles before NEETs became a thing

This behaviour was seen after multiple generations. The first few generations breed fine, they reached a peak then started declining.

I cant link you to anything but when I was younger I basically did the same thing starting from 2 mice to see how inbred they would get. Just put food in, no interaction with the outside world. I'm not sure if it would count as a success or not, but the black box of incest experiment wasn't methodologically sound and the results are probably unusable.

Still though, not every day you see a mouses teeth grow out sideways

I have a hard time believing that asexuality is a real thing.

Sex drive is chemical, if your body doesn't respond to those for some genetic/environmental reason, you won't want that sweet sweet sex hole.

Look at sex as an outside observer, its really pretty nasty.

Look at sex as an outside observer, its really pretty nasty.

I should ban you.

Ace here. I don't know how else to describe it, but sex just doesn't interest me. Maybe it should be named Apathetixuality?

Ace

You know it's a good thing your whole thing is not wanting sex, because when you self-apply something like "Ace" as a catchy label for yourself, you weren't going to be getting any anyway.

You might as well rename yourself Max Power.

#nolivesmatter

Every menslib poster with a penis needs to be put into a Marine boot camp until they stop acting like total pussies.

Only if the crayons are made with soy

I read this an all I can thing is.. how faggoty.

Michael Paramo is a gay aro ace

What the fug? Isn’t the whole thing contradictory?

I'm pretty sure it is contradictory. You can't be aro, ace, and gay all at the same time. Any combination of 2 would work (under their system of describing sexuality), but not all 3. How can someone who is aromantic AND asexual also be attracted to men when they claim to feel no sexual or romantic attractions?

Even asexuals can't resist the allure of bussy.

Why make the focus of this about asexual men? Why not men in general?

Look at /u/TheBookOfSeil over there "what about the menz?!"ing...

This entire post is about "the menz," so I don't see the point of your comment.

Do your part to keep our community healthy by blowing everything out of proportion and making literally everything as dramatic as possible.

It's in the sidebar fam.

Oh. I thought this comment was made on the original post in r/MensLib.

It doesn't matter anyway. They banned me for trying to "delegitimize asexual people." Whatever.

/r/MensLib is a fucking joke anyway. Go to /r/OneY.

I had no idea that it was basically the male safe-space equivalent of r/TwoXChromosomes. Oh well. Nothing was lost.

"asexuals" just need to see a doctor

So wait /u/breshark your justifications on focusing on asexual men is because social norms of virginity only place value on hetereosexual sex and even mention how gay people aren't included in this yet (because we have no formal or social norm in virginity and what constitutes losing it) continue to then exclude them, even pointing out this questioning is actually a form of mockery against homosexuality. So what we only exist as a tool for your benefit...wow how normative of you.

Like can you just not for once cry about how unfairly you have it, how much it sucks you don't face the brunt of homophobia or prejudice, without shitting on others? Is that part of your sexuality or something because it certainly seems that way lately.

/r/menslib users are probably the only people more pathetic than incels, at least they don't hate themselves.

Good job acknowledging that you’re an incel OP

Classic incel, always blaming others.

I mean, being a virgin is not a problem and nobody's business. Why is it even an issue? Why do you care for whether someone is a virgin or not?

Incels do deserve to get shamed though, because their whole shtick is being misogynistic and entitled and refusing to be better people because they want a partner while being shitty people. Aka refusing to learn what it actually takes to be a functional member of society.

I mean, they’re not celibate because of bad luck. They are consistently just really shitty people. They think women are cattle or sexual objects made for their pleasure and they think women should have sex with them because... reasons? How am I, as a woman, supposed to respect them when they don’t respect me? I don’t have any issues with celibacy or anything (being single and very happy with it, that’s a given), what I do have an issue with is men going on murder sprees and driving vans into crowds just because they won’t be good enough people that women will want to be around them. Incels are just shitty people who clearly think women are inferior, and I don’t owe them any respect, and definitely not my body or my affections. I don’t have to respect people who wouldn’t hesitate to murder me for saying no to them, which is entirely within my rights by the way. More on point, why are you comparing incels to asexuals when the two groups have literally nothing in common?

I’m sure there are other people like that (like TERFs), but I’m talking about incels because that’s the topic here.