Starterpacks debates double standards

101  2018-04-02 by ThenTheGorursArrived

64 comments

Negative black stereotypes

Low iq ahead

Welfare

Fancy rims

Fried chicken

Sagging pants

Loud

Pitbulls

A bunch of phrases black people use

Negative white stereotypes

Trashy family picture

Negative poor people stereotypes on one/both:

Cheap shopping (walmart, mcdonald's, food lion)

Shitty houses

Cheap phone or broken expensive phone

Stereotypical names

Shitty cars (if you take away the rims)

Sad

Bad hair, nails, clothes

Smoking/drugs

Bad at managing finances

Social media

Hmmm it's almost like one has a lot more negative stereotypes than the other. TBH the "poor white people" pack would work just as easily for black people if you switched out the people/names.

simply the existence of the IQ remark makes it pretty clear they made the image for the sole purpose of baiting out downvotes so they could harvest their good boy sympathy points karma

incest for poor whites and whites in general basically trumps all the black stereotypes imo. mayos are fucking disgusting.

This but with more wh*te people stereotypes 🤢🤮😷

you're one of the whitest people here

Umm, what's wrong with pitbulls you hate animals?

I don't hate pitbulls. The dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people like dogfighting. But pitbulls are pretty cool dogs, and owning one doesn't mean you want to use it to fight.

is it though? i didn't make that connection anyway.

Maybe it's regional. Where I'm from, it's a stereotype. The shelters here are filled with pit mixes and nobody wants them bc of the negative associations.

I think the dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people don't pay large amounts for purebred dogs and the majority of the free dogs at the shelter are pit mixes.

Negative black stereotypes|Negative white stereotypes Low iq ahead|bad grades in school Welfare|trailer park Fancy rims|shitty chrysler Fried chicken|McDonalds Sagging pants|wife beater shirt and exposed pregnant belly Loud|chain smoking Pitbulls|*you got me there* A bunch of phrases black people use|A bunch of stereotypical names white people use

Your desire to overlook negative stereotypes of one group, while criticizing stereotypes of the other group makes you a racist.

Negative poor people stereotypes on one/both:

You are so full of shit. When a "poor people stereotype" was on the black side, you placed it on your "negative black stereotype" list. For example, you listed "welfare" as "ZOMG THAT'S A BLACK STEREOTYPE STAP DOING THAT!!"

Welfare is a poor people stereotype, but because it happened to be on the black side, you claimed it was a stereotype of black people. The trailer park is only on the white side, but you claim it's not a white person stereotype, it's a poor people stereotype.

Why is it necessary for you to lie like this in order to maintain your worldview?

Your desire to overlook negative stereotypes of one group, while criticizing stereotypes of the other group makes you a racist.

Maybe his point was too difficult for yiu to understand due to your "bad grades in school" 🤔

Welfare is absolutely a poor person thing but it absolutely is associated with black people as well

an obese woman gobbling up 7-11 hot dogs while clenching WIC vouchers and screaming at her kids that they can't have milk since Hostess Cupcakes are on sale?

Welfare is also related to white trash lmao. Hell I can tell you that us non-Ameriburgers welfare implies obese white people instead of black people.

The stereotype in America is the poor blacks are all on welfare.

The stereotype applies mainly to blacks, EVEN THO whites are a majority of welfare recipiants.

One guy is arguing that the stereotype is minly in reference to black people, and the other guy is arguing the stereotype can be applied to whites

So they basically yelling past each other.

Royalty

Yes white people are on welfare, but that's not the stereotype. As for the trailer park, I didn't look too closely and just thought it was shitty houses. You are right that trailer parks are a poor white people stereotype.

Bad grades do not compare to "low IQ". Bad grades can be for any multitude of reasons (poor kids tend to have worse outcomes due to problems at home, etc.), while low IQ is race realism bullshit.

You really mean to tell me that poor black people don't also eat at McDonald's? It's cheap fast food, so poor people in general eat there.

I already addressed the poor white family. If you switched out the skin color, it would work just as easily for black people.

Smoking/drugs is a poor people stereotype.

Trash names are a poor people stereotype. Poor white people and poor black people give their children stupid names.

You're deluded if you think those two images have the same tone and content.

Yes white people are on welfare, but that's not the stereotype.

It is intensely dishonest the way you make subtle changes to the topic at hand in an attempt to slip a fallacious argument through. It's the same tactic Snopes uses, by the way.

This thread is not about white people or black people. It's about poor white people and poor black people.

And what you just said, if I remove your dishonest change from "poor white people" to just "white people" is a lie - being on welfare is a stereotype of poor white people.

Bad grades do not compare to "low IQ".

Wrong again. Bad grades either imply low IQ, or imply laziness. Either way, what's on the "poor white" started pack is worse than what's on the poor black side. But once again, you twist it around in your head because you're a racist.

You really mean to tell me that poor black people don't also eat at McDonald's?

...you really mean to tell me that poor white people aren't in welfare? You can't have it both ways.

You're deluded if you think those two images have the same tone and content.

Nope. You're deluded if you think the one about poor black people is worse. You're a racist - the kind of racist who thinks blacks need to be coddled and deserve special protection from criticism.

Your worldview - the way you react to this issue, the way you make excuses based on race (because you're a racist) is the problem. You. You are the problem. You are the reason that, while the standard of living, wealth, and general situation of blacks was improving all throughout the 30's, 40's, and 50's (during Jim Crowe), it has barely improved or gotten worse since. It's because of you. It's because of the excuses you make and the policies you support. You're a racist, and it's your fault.

Lmao being this much of a nigger 😂😂

thinking black people were better off during the Jim Crowe era

And I'm the racist here?

Poor white people are definitely on welfare, but the stereotype of the "welfare queen" is invariably a black woman (and no it isn't racist to point out that this is a common bias). Even though poor white people use welfare just as much because - surprise - welfare is for poor people. The harmful stereotype comes from the fact that while poor people of all races use welfare, poor blacks are unfairly perceived to use it more.

Come off it there're a reason the poor white people starter pack had things that implied poor whites were dumb and bad with money while the poor black people starterpack just came out and said welfare and low iq. It lets people disingenuously defend the images with false equivalencies.

You know you're lying when you can't even quote something I actually said. I cited a source for the claim I actually made, and you know it dismantles you're entire worldview and you have absolutely no rational response to it.

You know what you should do. Whenever you find yourself in a situation like this, where you're about to intentionally misquote someone because you have no response to what they actually said, consider changing your position. Because people who are right about shit don't get into the situation you're in now.

Change the things you believe. They're wrong. Change them. Be a better person. Stop fucking up the world you live in.

Maybe start by examining the video I cited.

Imagine being this buttmad that someone on /r/Drama didn't want to watch your fucking video link. This isn't /r/news or /r/changemyview, and I'm not going to go through your "citations".

Please maintain your safety

Imagine being this terrified of having your precious yet fragile worldview challenged.

I'm really not sure who's side to be on, I'm getting really mixed signals from both of y'all.

Would a starter pack help?

Only if it starts more fights

Stop gas-lighting me!

My shitty and lazy arguing skills don't change the fact that one starterpack is more racist and meanspirtied than the other. I stand by that assessment.

Imagine getting fucking annihilated to the point where you literally cannot think of a single valid counterargument on fucking /r/Drama

valid counterargument on fucking /r/Drama

If you come here looking for nuanced and careful arguments about race, economics, you're in the wrong place.

the standard of living, wealth, and general situation of blacks was improving all throughout the 30's, 40's, and 50's (during Jim Crowe), it has barely improved or gotten worse since

"wtf i didnt say jim crowe was good for black people stop lying youre fucking up the world reeeee reeeeeee"

whats it like being this much of a sperg?

Maybe English just isn't your first language. The bit you quoted references jim crowe BECAUSE Jim crowe was bad. It points out (and the linked source confirms) that blacks improved during this time in spite of the bad thing.

If it wasn't bad, then I wouldn't have referenced it. If it wasn't bad, then it wouldn't have supported by point. My point is, things got better in spite of this unambiguous example of racism. It's like complementing someone who finished college despite being homeless. Only a complete fucking retard twists that up inside his own head and then shits it out in the thread as, "he's saying homelessness is good!"

That you managed to completely misunderstand that is pretty pathetic.

i dunno how youve convinced yourself that saying "things were getting better for the darkies until a racist institutional framework keeping them subservient and oppressed was removed" somehow isnt racist just because you tack on "but uh obviously racism is bad tho! im just pointing out facts! youre the real racist!" after getting called out on it, but that isnt how it actually works. it's like saying "man, this homeless guy was doing great in college until he was given a place to live, his grades went to shit after that" and then insisting youre not implying theres any sort of motivational value to the brutality of homelessness.

I posted a source that supports what I said. Maybe you should start there.

Did you understand the analogy to homelessness?

ah the plight of mayos and their overlooked stereotypes

1) low IQ is a more harmful stereotype than bad grades because it implies a genetic aspect. 2) A cheap car vs spending a lot of money on tacky shit isn't a fair comparison. A lifted pickup would be more apt comparison 3) Yes, the most ubiquitous fast food joint in the country is analogous to blacks eating fried chicken. retard

If OP was actually trying they would've added some abused kids, fetal alcohol syndrome, inbreeding and fentanyl OD'ing on the whitey one.

I want to know why being thrifty when shopping for groceries is a negative stereotype. Does Whole Foods take SNAP?

I dunno. I've shopped at both Walmart and Whole Foods and would honestly be fine if I was never allowed to shop at a Whole Foods again. Sure some stuff at Walmart is lower quality, but it's nice to not ring up 6 things and have your total come out to $70.

(I don't know if Whole Foods takes SNAP, but if they do, it wouldn't go very far there)

I just read three threads in this subreddit and you were the one to trigger me enough to respond in all three threads. I declare you my arch-nemesis and I will destroy you.

OP of that post is one salty mayo

Pretty sure he unironically complains about "white genocide" lol.

user reports:
1: funny coming from a guy seriousposting in news and libertarian

Ooooooooh

forgive me for this haram, mods

I just wish whoever reported you would come smacktalk in person tbh.

/u/nightman96 despite what you heard, it's really not ok to be hwite. Please keep yourself safe

What's wrong with Food Lion? Delhaize stores are mostly "fancy" stores over here.

Poorfag detected

dang looks like its true that huwite mayos have a victim complex

Non-mayo: lol whitey can't dance Mayo: lol low IQ subhuman ape ~Wtfffff double standards~

Fuckin Mayos I swear.

Basketball Americans : dem Wypipo got small ass lips like chimps y’all

Regular Americans : black people have funny looking noses

Basketball Americans: LAWWWWWWD

White rural and suburban retard U.S khaki pants wearing boomers can't dance.

Wh*Te people are heavily represented in the best dancing competitions in just about every genre. So that's a myth.

And the idea that black people have low IQs is nonsense too.

African average IQ: 100

Black American average IQ: 100

Eh, black people do have a lower IQ. It's not genetic tho, but rather linked to education.

Much like white trash, black have access to only shit school (due to coming from poorer famillies), which ensure that they are never able to become the genius they might be.

And now, I am serious posting on r/drama. Noose me daddy.

Eh, black people do have a lower IQ.

If this was true I would be hearing about it on the news.

The implication from your statement seems to be that as blacks "have lower IQ" as a group, it's sensible to avoid hiring them and everything else.

Not a good look!

The implication from your statement seems to be that as blacks "have lower IQ" as a group, it's sensible to avoid hiring them and everything else.

Once again, you show the failure of public education.

Black and mayo (or any race) with similar level of education are just as intelligent (on average). The thing is that black have disproportionnally lower education because they are born from poorer famillies.

It's the same thing, on the opposite side that happen to jew. They are born to relativelly rich and well educated famillies. This ensure that they are more intelligent in average than other races, not because they are innatelly more intelligent but because they have access to better education.

It's literally true. You just think that IQ is some magic genetic number that determines how smart someone is when in reality IQ depends mostly on education.

Clearly he did not receive a proper education.

if this was true I would be hearing about it in the news.

Ooooof.

mean of 98 vs mean of 100. Lets gas em all.

This but ironically

Also it’s been proven the stress from poverty changes a person’s brain over time and can effectively lower people’s IQ.

The ones complaining about the double standards are probably mayos. The ones saying the double standards make sense are probably also mayos.

Praying for that inevitable mayocide any day now, Lord help me.

Jesus, fucking niggers

The richest person I've ever known was named Brad.

You mean the guy who released a memo saying women and black people were inferior and was rightfully fired?

Show me, on this legal pad, where the memo touched you

Starter packs, hating blacks

A fair comparison that sub lacks

Peek further into, the logic cracks

the war was won, there were plaques

source