Hmmm it's almost like one has a lot more negative stereotypes than the other. TBH the "poor white people" pack would work just as easily for black people if you switched out the people/names.
simply the existence of the IQ remark makes it pretty clear they made the image for the sole purpose of baiting out downvotes so they could harvest their good boy sympathy points karma
I don't hate pitbulls. The dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people like dogfighting. But pitbulls are pretty cool dogs, and owning one doesn't mean you want to use it to fight.
Maybe it's regional. Where I'm from, it's a stereotype. The shelters here are filled with pit mixes and nobody wants them bc of the negative associations.
I think the dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people don't pay large amounts for purebred dogs and the majority of the free dogs at the shelter are pit mixes.
Negative black stereotypes|Negative white stereotypes
Low iq ahead|bad grades in school
Welfare|trailer park
Fancy rims|shitty chrysler
Fried chicken|McDonalds
Sagging pants|wife beater shirt and exposed pregnant belly
Loud|chain smoking
Pitbulls|*you got me there*
A bunch of phrases black people use|A bunch of stereotypical names white people use
Your desire to overlook negative stereotypes of one group, while criticizing stereotypes of the other group makes you a racist.
Negative poor people stereotypes on one/both:
You are so full of shit. When a "poor people stereotype" was on the black side, you placed it on your "negative black stereotype" list. For example, you listed "welfare" as "ZOMG THAT'S A BLACK STEREOTYPE STAP DOING THAT!!"
Welfare is a poor people stereotype, but because it happened to be on the black side, you claimed it was a stereotype of black people. The trailer park is only on the white side, but you claim it's not a white person stereotype, it's a poor people stereotype.
Why is it necessary for you to lie like this in order to maintain your worldview?
an obese woman gobbling up 7-11 hot dogs while clenching WIC vouchers and screaming at her kids that they can't have milk since Hostess Cupcakes are on sale?
Yes white people are on welfare, but that's not the stereotype. As for the trailer park, I didn't look too closely and just thought it was shitty houses. You are right that trailer parks are a poor white people stereotype.
Bad grades do not compare to "low IQ". Bad grades can be for any multitude of reasons (poor kids tend to have worse outcomes due to problems at home, etc.), while low IQ is race realism bullshit.
You really mean to tell me that poor black people don't also eat at McDonald's? It's cheap fast food, so poor people in general eat there.
I already addressed the poor white family. If you switched out the skin color, it would work just as easily for black people.
Smoking/drugs is a poor people stereotype.
Trash names are a poor people stereotype. Poor white people and poor black people give their children stupid names.
You're deluded if you think those two images have the same tone and content.
Yes white people are on welfare, but that's not the stereotype.
It is intensely dishonest the way you make subtle changes to the topic at hand in an attempt to slip a fallacious argument through. It's the same tactic Snopes uses, by the way.
This thread is not about white people or black people. It's about poor white people and poor black people.
And what you just said, if I remove your dishonest change from "poor white people" to just "white people" is a lie - being on welfare is a stereotype of poor white people.
Bad grades do not compare to "low IQ".
Wrong again. Bad grades either imply low IQ, or imply laziness. Either way, what's on the "poor white" started pack is worse than what's on the poor black side. But once again, you twist it around in your head because you're a racist.
You really mean to tell me that poor black people don't also eat at McDonald's?
...you really mean to tell me that poor white people aren't in welfare? You can't have it both ways.
You're deluded if you think those two images have the same tone and content.
Nope. You're deluded if you think the one about poor black people is worse. You're a racist - the kind of racist who thinks blacks need to be coddled and deserve special protection from criticism.
thinking black people were better off during the Jim Crowe era
And I'm the racist here?
Poor white people are definitely on welfare, but the stereotype of the "welfare queen" is invariably a black woman (and no it isn't racist to point out that this is a common bias). Even though poor white people use welfare just as much because - surprise - welfare is for poor people. The harmful stereotype comes from the fact that while poor people of all races use welfare, poor blacks are unfairly perceived to use it more.
Come off it there're a reason the poor white people starter pack had things that implied poor whites were dumb and bad with money while the poor black people starterpack just came out and said welfare and low iq. It lets people disingenuously defend the images with false equivalencies.
You know you're lying when you can't even quote something I actually said. I cited a source for the claim I actually made, and you know it dismantles you're entire worldview and you have absolutely no rational response to it.
You know what you should do. Whenever you find yourself in a situation like this, where you're about to intentionally misquote someone because you have no response to what they actually said, consider changing your position. Because people who are right about shit don't get into the situation you're in now.
Change the things you believe. They're wrong. Change them. Be a better person. Stop fucking up the world you live in.
Imagine being this buttmad that someone on /r/Drama didn't want to watch your fucking video link. This isn't /r/news or /r/changemyview, and I'm not going to go through your "citations".
My shitty and lazy arguing skills don't change the fact that one starterpack is more racist and meanspirtied than the other. I stand by that assessment.
the standard of living, wealth, and general situation of blacks was improving all throughout the 30's, 40's, and 50's (during Jim Crowe), it has barely improved or gotten worse since
"wtf i didnt say jim crowe was good for black people stop lying youre fucking up the world reeeee reeeeeee"
Maybe English just isn't your first language. The bit you quoted references jim crowe BECAUSE Jim crowe was bad. It points out (and the linked source confirms) that blacks improved during this time in spite of the bad thing.
If it wasn't bad, then I wouldn't have referenced it. If it wasn't bad, then it wouldn't have supported by point. My point is, things got better in spite of this unambiguous example of racism. It's like complementing someone who finished college despite being homeless. Only a complete fucking retard twists that up inside his own head and then shits it out in the thread as, "he's saying homelessness is good!"
That you managed to completely misunderstand that is pretty pathetic.
i dunno how youve convinced yourself that saying "things were getting better for the darkies until a racist institutional framework keeping them subservient and oppressed was removed" somehow isnt racist just because you tack on "but uh obviously racism is bad tho! im just pointing out facts! youre the real racist!" after getting called out on it, but that isnt how it actually works. it's like saying "man, this homeless guy was doing great in college until he was given a place to live, his grades went to shit after that" and then insisting youre not implying theres any sort of motivational value to the brutality of homelessness.
1) low IQ is a more harmful stereotype than bad grades because it implies a genetic aspect.
2) A cheap car vs spending a lot of money on tacky shit isn't a fair comparison. A lifted pickup would be more apt comparison
3) Yes, the most ubiquitous fast food joint in the country is analogous to blacks eating fried chicken. retard
I dunno. I've shopped at both Walmart and Whole Foods and would honestly be fine if I was never allowed to shop at a Whole Foods again. Sure some stuff at Walmart is lower quality, but it's nice to not ring up 6 things and have your total come out to $70.
(I don't know if Whole Foods takes SNAP, but if they do, it wouldn't go very far there)
I just read three threads in this subreddit and you were the one to trigger me enough to respond in all three threads. I declare you my arch-nemesis and I will destroy you.
Eh, black people do have a lower IQ. It's not genetic tho, but rather linked to education.
Much like white trash, black have access to only shit school (due to coming from poorer famillies), which ensure that they are never able to become the genius they might be.
And now, I am serious posting on r/drama. Noose me daddy.
The implication from your statement seems to be that as blacks "have lower IQ" as a group, it's sensible to avoid hiring them and everything else.
Once again, you show the failure of public education.
Black and mayo (or any race) with similar level of education are just as intelligent (on average). The thing is that black have disproportionnally lower education because they are born from poorer famillies.
It's the same thing, on the opposite side that happen to jew. They are born to relativelly rich and well educated famillies. This ensure that they are more intelligent in average than other races, not because they are innatelly more intelligent but because they have access to better education.
It's literally true. You just think that IQ is some magic genetic number that determines how smart someone is when in reality IQ depends mostly on education.
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1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
Negative black stereotypes
Negative white stereotypes
Negative poor people stereotypes on one/both:
Hmmm it's almost like one has a lot more negative stereotypes than the other. TBH the "poor white people" pack would work just as easily for black people if you switched out the people/names.
1 kainoasmith 2018-04-02
simply the existence of the IQ remark makes it pretty clear they made the image for the sole purpose of baiting out downvotes so they could harvest their
good boy sympathy pointskarma1 MarlaMaplesIsMyWaifu 2018-04-02
incest for poor whites and whites in general basically trumps all the black stereotypes imo. mayos are fucking disgusting.
1 Ed__ButteredToast 2018-04-02
This but with more wh*te people stereotypes 🤢🤮😷
1 MarlaMaplesIsMyWaifu 2018-04-02
you're one of the whitest people here
1 Steamboating 2018-04-02
Umm, what's wrong with pitbulls you hate animals?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
I don't hate pitbulls. The dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people like dogfighting. But pitbulls are pretty cool dogs, and owning one doesn't mean you want to use it to fight.
1 Steamboating 2018-04-02
is it though? i didn't make that connection anyway.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
Maybe it's regional. Where I'm from, it's a stereotype. The shelters here are filled with pit mixes and nobody wants them bc of the negative associations.
1 DisposableDoc 2018-04-02
I think the dog in that image is feeding into the stereotype that black people don't pay large amounts for purebred dogs and the majority of the free dogs at the shelter are pit mixes.
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
Negative black stereotypes|Negative white stereotypes Low iq ahead|bad grades in school Welfare|trailer park Fancy rims|shitty chrysler Fried chicken|McDonalds Sagging pants|wife beater shirt and exposed pregnant belly Loud|chain smoking Pitbulls|*you got me there* A bunch of phrases black people use|A bunch of stereotypical names white people use
Your desire to overlook negative stereotypes of one group, while criticizing stereotypes of the other group makes you a racist.
You are so full of shit. When a "poor people stereotype" was on the black side, you placed it on your "negative black stereotype" list. For example, you listed "welfare" as "ZOMG THAT'S A BLACK STEREOTYPE STAP DOING THAT!!"
Welfare is a poor people stereotype, but because it happened to be on the black side, you claimed it was a stereotype of black people. The trailer park is only on the white side, but you claim it's not a white person stereotype, it's a poor people stereotype.
Why is it necessary for you to lie like this in order to maintain your worldview?
1 IsADragon 2018-04-02
Maybe his point was too difficult for yiu to understand due to your "bad grades in school" 🤔
1 COINTELPROxShareBlue 2018-04-02
Welfare is absolutely a poor person thing but it absolutely is associated with black people as well
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-04-02
an obese woman gobbling up 7-11 hot dogs while clenching WIC vouchers and screaming at her kids that they can't have milk since Hostess Cupcakes are on sale?
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-04-02
Welfare is also related to white trash lmao. Hell I can tell you that us non-Ameriburgers welfare implies obese white people instead of black people.
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-04-02
The stereotype in America is the poor blacks are all on welfare.
The stereotype applies mainly to blacks, EVEN THO whites are a majority of welfare recipiants.
One guy is arguing that the stereotype is minly in reference to black people, and the other guy is arguing the stereotype can be applied to whites
So they basically yelling past each other.
1 broden 2018-04-02
Royalty
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
Yes white people are on welfare, but that's not the stereotype. As for the trailer park, I didn't look too closely and just thought it was shitty houses. You are right that trailer parks are a poor white people stereotype.
Bad grades do not compare to "low IQ". Bad grades can be for any multitude of reasons (poor kids tend to have worse outcomes due to problems at home, etc.), while low IQ is race realism bullshit.
You really mean to tell me that poor black people don't also eat at McDonald's? It's cheap fast food, so poor people in general eat there.
I already addressed the poor white family. If you switched out the skin color, it would work just as easily for black people.
Smoking/drugs is a poor people stereotype.
Trash names are a poor people stereotype. Poor white people and poor black people give their children stupid names.
You're deluded if you think those two images have the same tone and content.
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
It is intensely dishonest the way you make subtle changes to the topic at hand in an attempt to slip a fallacious argument through. It's the same tactic Snopes uses, by the way.
This thread is not about white people or black people. It's about poor white people and poor black people.
And what you just said, if I remove your dishonest change from "poor white people" to just "white people" is a lie - being on welfare is a stereotype of poor white people.
Wrong again. Bad grades either imply low IQ, or imply laziness. Either way, what's on the "poor white" started pack is worse than what's on the poor black side. But once again, you twist it around in your head because you're a racist.
...you really mean to tell me that poor white people aren't in welfare? You can't have it both ways.
Nope. You're deluded if you think the one about poor black people is worse. You're a racist - the kind of racist who thinks blacks need to be coddled and deserve special protection from criticism.
Your worldview - the way you react to this issue, the way you make excuses based on race (because you're a racist) is the problem. You. You are the problem. You are the reason that, while the standard of living, wealth, and general situation of blacks was improving all throughout the 30's, 40's, and 50's (during Jim Crowe), it has barely improved or gotten worse since. It's because of you. It's because of the excuses you make and the policies you support. You're a racist, and it's your fault.
1 Coats_Unbuttoned 2018-04-02
Lmao being this much of a nigger 😂😂
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
And I'm the racist here?
Poor white people are definitely on welfare, but the stereotype of the "welfare queen" is invariably a black woman (and no it isn't racist to point out that this is a common bias). Even though poor white people use welfare just as much because - surprise - welfare is for poor people. The harmful stereotype comes from the fact that while poor people of all races use welfare, poor blacks are unfairly perceived to use it more.
Come off it there're a reason the poor white people starter pack had things that implied poor whites were dumb and bad with money while the poor black people starterpack just came out and said welfare and low iq. It lets people disingenuously defend the images with false equivalencies.
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
You know you're lying when you can't even quote something I actually said. I cited a source for the claim I actually made, and you know it dismantles you're entire worldview and you have absolutely no rational response to it.
You know what you should do. Whenever you find yourself in a situation like this, where you're about to intentionally misquote someone because you have no response to what they actually said, consider changing your position. Because people who are right about shit don't get into the situation you're in now.
Change the things you believe. They're wrong. Change them. Be a better person. Stop fucking up the world you live in.
Maybe start by examining the video I cited.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
Imagine being this buttmad that someone on /r/Drama didn't want to watch your fucking video link. This isn't /r/news or /r/changemyview, and I'm not going to go through your "citations".
Please maintain your safety
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
Imagine being this terrified of having your precious yet fragile worldview challenged.
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-04-02
I'm really not sure who's side to be on, I'm getting really mixed signals from both of y'all.
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
Would a starter pack help?
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-04-02
Only if it starts more fights
1 TothB 2018-04-02
Stop gas-lighting me!
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
My shitty and lazy arguing skills don't change the fact that one starterpack is more racist and meanspirtied than the other. I stand by that assessment.
1 TothB 2018-04-02
Imagine getting fucking annihilated to the point where you literally cannot think of a single valid counterargument on fucking /r/Drama
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
If you come here looking for nuanced and careful arguments about race, economics, you're in the wrong place.
1 westofthetracks 2018-04-02
"wtf i didnt say jim crowe was good for black people stop lying youre fucking up the world reeeee reeeeeee"
whats it like being this much of a sperg?
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
Maybe English just isn't your first language. The bit you quoted references jim crowe BECAUSE Jim crowe was bad. It points out (and the linked source confirms) that blacks improved during this time in spite of the bad thing.
If it wasn't bad, then I wouldn't have referenced it. If it wasn't bad, then it wouldn't have supported by point. My point is, things got better in spite of this unambiguous example of racism. It's like complementing someone who finished college despite being homeless. Only a complete fucking retard twists that up inside his own head and then shits it out in the thread as, "he's saying homelessness is good!"
That you managed to completely misunderstand that is pretty pathetic.
1 westofthetracks 2018-04-02
i dunno how youve convinced yourself that saying "things were getting better for the darkies until a racist institutional framework keeping them subservient and oppressed was removed" somehow isnt racist just because you tack on "but uh obviously racism is bad tho! im just pointing out facts! youre the real racist!" after getting called out on it, but that isnt how it actually works. it's like saying "man, this homeless guy was doing great in college until he was given a place to live, his grades went to shit after that" and then insisting youre not implying theres any sort of motivational value to the brutality of homelessness.
1 nicethingyoucanthave 2018-04-02
I posted a source that supports what I said. Maybe you should start there.
Did you understand the analogy to homelessness?
1 byconcept 2018-04-02
ah the plight of mayos and their overlooked stereotypes
1 iceybluesteel 2018-04-02
1) low IQ is a more harmful stereotype than bad grades because it implies a genetic aspect. 2) A cheap car vs spending a lot of money on tacky shit isn't a fair comparison. A lifted pickup would be more apt comparison 3) Yes, the most ubiquitous fast food joint in the country is analogous to blacks eating fried chicken. retard
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-04-02
If OP was actually trying they would've added some abused kids, fetal alcohol syndrome, inbreeding and fentanyl OD'ing on the whitey one.
1 DisposableDoc 2018-04-02
I want to know why being thrifty when shopping for groceries is a negative stereotype. Does Whole Foods take SNAP?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
I dunno. I've shopped at both Walmart and Whole Foods and would honestly be fine if I was never allowed to shop at a Whole Foods again. Sure some stuff at Walmart is lower quality, but it's nice to not ring up 6 things and have your total come out to $70.
(I don't know if Whole Foods takes SNAP, but if they do, it wouldn't go very far there)
1 DisposableDoc 2018-04-02
I just read three threads in this subreddit and you were the one to trigger me enough to respond in all three threads. I declare you my arch-nemesis and I will destroy you.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-04-02
https://media.giphy.com/media/mbjdkD4mq3o1q/giphy.gif
1 seized_bread 2018-04-02
OP of that post is one salty mayo
1 Ed__ButteredToast 2018-04-02
Pretty sure he unironically complains about "white genocide" lol.
1 v_is_one_person 2018-04-02
Ooooooooh
1 seized_bread 2018-04-02
forgive me for this haram, mods
1 v_is_one_person 2018-04-02
I just wish whoever reported you would come smacktalk in person tbh.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-04-02
/u/nightman96 despite what you heard, it's really not ok to be hwite. Please keep yourself safe
1 v_is_one_person 2018-04-02
archive
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-04-02
What's wrong with Food Lion? Delhaize stores are mostly "fancy" stores over here.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-04-02
Poorfag detected
1 NH_NH_NH 2018-04-02
dang looks like its true that huwite mayos have a victim complex
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-04-02
Non-mayo: lol whitey can't dance Mayo: lol low IQ subhuman ape ~Wtfffff double standards~
Fuckin Mayos I swear.
1 marooncat1501 2018-04-02
Basketball Americans : dem Wypipo got small ass lips like chimps y’all
Regular Americans : black people have funny looking noses
Basketball Americans: LAWWWWWWD
1 broden 2018-04-02
White rural and suburban retard U.S khaki pants wearing boomers can't dance.
Wh*Te people are heavily represented in the best dancing competitions in just about every genre. So that's a myth.
And the idea that black people have low IQs is nonsense too.
African average IQ: 100
Black American average IQ: 100
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-04-02
Eh, black people do have a lower IQ. It's not genetic tho, but rather linked to education.
Much like white trash, black have access to only shit school (due to coming from poorer famillies), which ensure that they are never able to become the genius they might be.
And now, I am serious posting on r/drama. Noose me daddy.
1 broden 2018-04-02
If this was true I would be hearing about it on the news.
The implication from your statement seems to be that as blacks "have lower IQ" as a group, it's sensible to avoid hiring them and everything else.
Not a good look!
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-04-02
Once again, you show the failure of public education.
Black and mayo (or any race) with similar level of education are just as intelligent (on average). The thing is that black have disproportionnally lower education because they are born from poorer famillies.
It's the same thing, on the opposite side that happen to jew. They are born to relativelly rich and well educated famillies. This ensure that they are more intelligent in average than other races, not because they are innatelly more intelligent but because they have access to better education.
1 TothB 2018-04-02
It's literally true. You just think that IQ is some magic genetic number that determines how smart someone is when in reality IQ depends mostly on education.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-04-02
Clearly he did not receive a proper education.
1 MERCYLOVER163 2018-04-02
Ooooof.
1 KingWayneX 2018-04-02
mean of 98 vs mean of 100. Lets gas em all.
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-04-02
This but ironically
1 K-town- 2018-04-02
Also it’s been proven the stress from poverty changes a person’s brain over time and can effectively lower people’s IQ.
1 Shlapper 2018-04-02
The ones complaining about the double standards are probably mayos. The ones saying the double standards make sense are probably also mayos.
Praying for that inevitable mayocide any day now, Lord help me.
1 Invalid_Target 2018-04-02
Jesus, fucking niggers
1 Majestic_Sheepherder 2018-04-02
The richest person I've ever known was named Brad.
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-04-02
Show me, on this legal pad, where the memo touched you
1 broden 2018-04-02
Starter packs, hating blacks
A fair comparison that sub lacks
Peek further into, the logic cracks
the war was won, there were plaques
source