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is that ivanka the grandpa's new alt?

I'm just gonna assume that guy is a troll. If he's not a troll, he might actually be retarded.

Holy shit, where did you get that flair? Thought PK had finally returned.

Who knows.

You have been blessed as a leftist serious poster, your powers shouldn't be used lightly

Though P_K would be ashamed to see someone as moderate as yourself taking his stead, I, for one, am excited for what the future could bring.

How the hell am I a leftist.

flairs dont lie buddy, youre an anarchist now

American overton window is hilariously skewed to the right.

We need to stop letting woque teenagers in here.

um sweetie i read 3 jacobin articles this week you can call me a leftist

Being right of commies doesn’t make you right, because commies aren’t actual people.

Oh hey its the guy who was so retarded he lost a seriouspost match to /u/pizzashill

Nobody has ever lost any “match” to pizzashill.

TIL you're a nobody.

Says the guy whose idea of debate is sticking his fingers in his ears and posting Wikipedia links without reading them

Look, if you want to expend actual effort on /u/pizzashill, you go right ahead.

Fascism is the ultimate example of the individual shaped by the signifier. Fascism is an ideology seen only in mirror images; lost in a hall of mirrors he is a reflection of a reflection of a reflection. You start with the Historical Right – the wholesome all Italian political ideology. you reflect him to create the historic left – the same thing but slightly less. You invert that to create Italian Socialism – Italian historical left focused on the workers right– then you reflect the inversion in the reflection: you create a being who can only exist in reference to others. Fascism is the true nowhere ideology, without the other characters he reflects, inverts and parodies he has no reason to exist. Fascist identity only comes from what and who he isn’t – without a wider frame of reference he is nothing. He is not his own man. In a world where our identities are shaped by our warped relationships to brands and commerce we are all fascists.

Verbose, yet gay.

Ironic, yet not self aware

Ironic, but not self aware

BUT HILLARY SUPPORTS OBAMACARE SO DAT MAKES HER A COMMIE MUSLIM JJST LIKE OBUMMER!

Obamacare is unironically the most rightwing universal healthcare in the world.

besides a bottle of whiskey, a rubber tie-off, a rusty saw and a cd of lynyrd skynard

No you're speaking to my bootstrap roots.

This fucking meme.

You honestly have to be retarded not to see it, actual economic policy outside of reeing about brownies and abortion which is 95% of republican policy is bizzare trickle down economics.

Yet there are parts of Europe where abortion is illegal and marrying gay people. I can pick and choose too.

And what do you want to bet those countries still have universal healthcare?

What the fuck do I care? You are a retard if you think everything can be put on a nice clean left right axis and even more retarded if you think there is a binary test revolving around one point.

You are the retard equating abortion & LGBT with left vs right economic policy, the two are separate, not everything can be put on an axis but economic policy certainly can you dunce.

yeah, the shit parts.

Germany literally allowed gay marriage after America.

Not really. The party is a coalition with some center right and many center left/left elements.

Thats why i specified policy wise, they talk the talk but when it comes to writing the bills that they want to get passed they dont go very leftist at all.

It seems a mixed bag for a foreigner.

the same could be said of PK

NO BOOLY MY PK!

LMAO. Legit lol.

you think TD is full of idiots? I mean, that's all it takes now, innit?

Well, you hate women so you are at an advanced stage of male feminism.

Dude, stop responding to me. You are extremely mentally ill and do not have the mental capacity to defend yourself.

It's like beating up on a 6 year old.

extremely mentally pizzashill

We all patiently await for the day /u/prince_kropotkin comes back to us

I spoke to him on discord, he says that drama just wasn't for him anymore, had too many alt right idiots like the subject of this thread, and that he prefers hanging around on the chapi sub and discord server.

I just wish that the flair had gotten passed on to an actual leftist. /u/Frank_Tenpenny would have been a fine choice but he turner out to be a noodles larp.

good luck calling nazis nazis to their faces in a place that bans nazis. what's the fucking point? Its just a big leftist circle jer.... oh. I finally understand chapo.

Does PK mop the floors over there or just lick them clean?

I mean replying to the retards in every thread can be exhausting, they never get tired or change their opinions, and they will keep replying to every single post you make. I can see how PK can get tired.

there's a joy in that sort of work though. Its like being allowed to paint the walls with your own poops and no one can stop you. Just the freedom of it.

His new hobby is whiteknighting for communism and anarchism in /r/EnoughCommieSpam. He's in pretty much every thread there.

alt right idiots like the subject of this thread

I think alt-right generally is expected to include racism, so you are mistaken again.

/u/prince_kropotkin you just gonna sit there and take it while this mother fucker steals your flair?

No its /u/socialist_ephebophile, /u/biglordshiggot, figlord[something], cloaca_festival etc etc

I dont know if he keeps getting banned or just likes to change it up. Also, /u/chicup are these your alts?

Nah, /u/Chicup is his own special brand of retarded

figlord[something]

You're probably thinking of /u/BigLordFigot.

I dont know if he keeps getting banned or just likes to change it up

All three former accounts of his are suspended.

Actually, some faggot admin got so bussy blasted that he went through and banned every account I ever made. There were probably 30 of them.

lol rekt

What'd you do to get banned, though?

Chronic retardedness.

The admin message said something about trannyphobia. I was going particularly turbo on the trannies that day.

that's not an official content policy violation. your ban message would have said something like "harassment" or "posting confidential/personal information".

Actually, I think it might have just said "Fuck you". You know how tilted trannies get.

proof or gtfo

Well, the accounts are all deleted, you see.

I have insider information from the mod team, and he was suspended for advocating violence at least once. I'm assuming that the other suspensions were for the same reason.

Violent mayos, smfh

Mayocide now. Mayocide forever.

I was going particularly turbo

walk into traffic pls

Post surgical crotch-hole.

Well, all my accounts that weren't *already banned previously* got mass-murdered last week with a really triggered note from Reddit high command.

Mainly I make new ones so that I can post in trollx or SRS or something for a few days until the mods get wise.

The only alt I have is alt-right baby.

why are there so many weirdos on drama who get banned on sight by the admins?

In addition to being an environment that just naturally attracts weirdos, this is also one of the closest things to an actual, traditional internet community on reddit, which means that some of said weirdos get really attached to and/or emotionally invested in it, which can lead them to do strange things.

It's either this or GD but everyone there is 1000 years old and dying from alcoholism

Don't forget kamen

who?

get off my lawn

Because they don't get banned by the drama mods, so the triggered admins feel the need to do it.

Are all of these people the former pol_invictus? If so he's a 100% confirmed NEET.

nah I wish. pol_invictus had way better melt downs. It was like watching a robot have a power surge

RIP

No. Pol_Invictus did have one of the best usernames ever, though, and I try to live up to that standard from time to time.

This is what your average fascist thinks. I mean, say what you will about commie retards, but at least they read books.

At the very least tankies read your links THEN dismiss them as western imperialist propaganda instead of going straight to personal insults.

Why on earth would anyone waste time reading communist nonsense

why on earth would anyone waste time reading

You in the original thread

I stand by my statement

You're a retard. Rome grew massively as a republic and fell as a empire and I know that's a gross over simplification of the history of rome but you're too much of a retard to read the wiki page on rome so you can't call me out

Roman fascist republic, 400 years. Roman fascist empire, 1400 years.

kisses!

Getting owned by pizzashill must have deleted whatever cognitive capacity you had left

You are the shittiest Warhamster ever, Russ. The God-Emperor is ashamed of you.

Are you confusing the GEOM with a fat man who paid a porn star 130k to bang?

Silly Russ. You don’t pay the hooker to bang. You pay her to go away afterwards.

130k to leave

Clearly a God among men 🤣🤣🤣🤣

God-Emperor, actually

More like a retarded step daddy to mayo-americans

What is more retarded: a mayo Warhams guy that pretends not to be a mayo, or a non-mayo that is into Warhams

I'd say a mayor who appropriates 40k memes to recycle them for 2 years straight is the the most retarded of all.

Nobody cares what you'd say, Russ.

Which is why you keep talking to me? If you really didn't care you would have never responded. Pizzashill really fucked you senseless.

This is just the third stage of internet autism.

Stage 1: Post something retarded because you don't know better

Stage 2: Get angry when people call you retarded. Mommy says you're her smart special boy and they are saying otherwise!

Stage 3: Sperg out in every comment directed at you. Respond as much as you can.

Stage 4: Delete everything/Rage quit

Stage 5: Run back to a safe space to get virtual hugs and reassurance everything is okay and that mommy was right.

Repeat daily.

If you really didn't care you would have never responded.

This, but ironically.

Not even a good pornstar. She probably would have done it for $500 of coke.

The Art of the Deal.

He wasn't working with much to begin with

Roman fascist empire, 1400 years.

Are you seriously saying the empire lasted for 1400 years? Byzantium and Rome are not the same thing. When do these dates even make sense? At best the Roman empire can be said to have lasted 450 years.

Byzantines called themselves Romans and were literally Romans living in the Eastern half of the Roman empire. Most historians will tell you that distinctions between the Byzantine Empire and Rome are largely spurious and applied after the fact.

The Roman emperor fell in Trebizond in 1453. But we, today, are their successors and Washington DC is built so as to make that visually apparent.

call themselves romans

don’t control Rome

🤔🤔🤔

they read books.

Not history books tbh

Yeah but books that don't have lots of colorful pictures still count.

I feel like knowing where your ideology comes from is literally the lowest standard, and some of these retarded fascists can't even do that. At the very least, commies can generally point to Marx. Tankies retardation comes in slightly later in the process of defining their ideology.

My ideology is literally to carry on the best of Roman, Western tradition. The only argument is over the appellation.

roman chads wouldve tossed your neckbeard ass in with the lions, foh

I disapprove of beards, except during long periods sleeping outdoors.

Many lawyers with ivy league degrees are known for being homeless, your story checks out

After /u/pizzashill destroyed his argument and his mind, /u/pizzashill took his wife and house, too.

The Left-Wing Bull

I have a wife and a house, and a girlfriend. The women are, it is true, more left-wing than I am, as People of Estrogen tend to be.

Usually soy-boys like you only give one woman to your bull, impressive that you got two to contribute to the mayocide

the mayocide

Well, the ladies are black, so this is more of a reverse-mayocide.

A trumptard with a black wife, that'll be the day.

Suspension of disbelief = broken

Black Americans are a primary origin of American-ness, friend. Without them, we'd just be a less homosexual version of Germany.

I disapprove of beards

lol soyboy

Genderbeard soyboys

So you don't have a real worldview, just a marketable emotion? You ideology is as deep as a Coca Cola commercial.

Islam must be destroyed

✔scapegoatism

Goat-fuckerism

✔ignorance as a virtue

You are ignorant of Western civilization, true. You will get no argument from me about that.

don't have a real worldview, just a marketable emotion

There it is.

Western civilization is a political and cultural tradition stretching back over 5000 years.

Marxism is literally just a meme for losers.

It's pretty impressive how you manage to consistently say nothing. No thoughts, no ideas.

Western civilization is an extensive constellation comprising the great ideas.

Marxism is just whining by a dude who was bad at economics.

Deep as a puddle.

Property is theft.

I like, instead of trying to defend your worldview, you devolve into memes. Bubblegum ideology right there.

It doesn't require a defense, and you certainly don't merit the effort.

It has been consistently mocked and so have your arguments. If it doesn't need defense, what does it mean? Another ass-kicking?

Like your incoherency and delusion have anything to do with western civilization or its values, lmao.

You can go find fascist imagery throughout the Washington DC monuments and other federal materials. That doesn't need a defense; it is just a fact.

The only place you will find communist imagery in the West is trash heaps. It is also where you will find the genitals of transexuals. This is not a coincidence.

Fascist imagery in DC LMAO

The fact that you call it "fascist imagery" is where your delusion lies.

I am speaking of literal fasces. We can ignore the laurels and eagles and such, for the moment.

How am I struggling with the appellation when you are the one equating fasces to fascism? It is just very clear that you are talking out of your ass.

You have already admitted the cultural and political tradition. You have already admitted the symbol.

You seem to be resisting connecting the two, almost as if you have some sort of learned avoidance of the term.

Or you're trying to equate two things that have nothing to do with each other.

Truly, for a lawyer with 3 degrees you have a real hard time making any cogent argument.

"Look, buddy, the Roman political ethos has NOTHING very little to do with the Roman symbol for political authority." - you

Wow, you have really trouble following your own argument. You called yourself a fascist. No one else did. Fascism is not the same as "the" roman political ethos (as if it was that unchanging during the entire roman republic and empire). Somehow you refuse to believe this or you don't want to admit that you were wrong.

This is like saying Nazism is buddhist because they used the swastika.

I align with the Roman ethos of the fasces. I have made that very clear🏥

Expect you didn't make it clear what that means. Which is why I called it as having the depth of a Coca Cola ad. Just a marketable feeling, no real though, no real expression. Basically "we wuz romanz"

no real expression

Except for the, you know, 5000 year old cultural tradition.

"maybe If I repeat it, it'll stop being superficial"

It is the deepest and best cultural tradition in human history. It is certainly superior to "social realism" Marxist agitprop, or just defacing shit by spraying words from the Koran all over the walls.

But nothing you have said has any semblance to it. You're just mewling and you know it.

No, you just don't like what I am saying. So, you keep asking "Why? Why? Why?" until you get the answer you want. It is weak.

No, because you don't actually say anything. I get that you think you say something profound, but in the end you simply say nothing. "Muh 5000 year of civilization" is a weak fucking etho unless you have no real knowledge about the last 5000 years of European civilization. Then it might sound clever.

I get that you are saying "nuh uh" in a really laborious fashion.

Only because you're saying "cuz it is" in a really laborious fashion.

It is the essence of the concept and inspiration for the term, so I go to the source. There is no other reasonable definition. Using a Marxist definition of fascism is simply wrong on its face.

It's not a marxist definition, you dolt. Many of the definitions use quotes from Mussolini and cohorts (unless you want to argue they were marxist too).

You really just throw around labels without knowing what they are, do you?

Pretty sure the person you are talking to is about 14 (though that might be flattering them and they'll get all happy, if they're 12).

Nah, he's been here for a long time. He's a /r/drama regular. I'm pretty sure he is in his late 30s or 40.

Many of the definitions are constructed by Marxists using quotes from Mussolini, a socialist

But they aren't.

I am not subscribing to a Marxist degenerate academic's definition of fascism. The view is historically limited and intended only to slander. I have no reason to give it any credence.

This explains so much.

A definition spoken about you by an enemy is not a clear definition. It is a slander.

Even when they use your words? That's bollocks. In any case, it is a clearer definition than the one you've given, a so-called fascist.

Even when they use your words?

Yes, obviously.

You're arguing for a definition so broad, it becomes meaningless. This only strengthens my initial point.

If it is "meaningless", then you have no reason to be so upset about it. Embrace fascism, friend.

Nah, Fascism isn't meaningless. What you are talking about is. Empty bravado blah blah blah.

I am literally talking about the ethos of Western civilization. That is obviously more meaningful than a socialism variant that was only relevant for a couple of decades.

No you aren't. You're mentioning it an awful lot, but you never get further than platitudes.

Ah. You want a detailed analysis.

You'll have to get your SAT score up so that you can get into my lectures next fall.

Ahaha give me a break.

Sorry, you will have to be more specific

I bet you can quit when you want. lol

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That's like saying "drink Coca Cola".

Also, ideas are not killed with those primitive means.

Islam must be destroyed

To be fair to the fascists, it's hard to define fascism as a traditional ideology.

It's better defined as a set of emotional traits, a movement. As Paxton said, there's no system builder. They kind of just say whatever they need to say at any given time.

This is why you see modern fascists trying to pretend they have some foundation to build on. Even more:

Fascist leaders made no secret of having no program. Mussolini exulted in that absence. “The Fasci di Combattimento,” Mussolini wrote in the “Postulates of the Fascist Program” of May 1920, “. . . do not feel tied to any particular doctrinal form.”73 A few months before he became prime minister of Italy, he replied truculently to a critic who demanded to know what his program was: “The democrats of Il Mondo want to know our program? It is to break the bones of the democrats of Il Mondo. And the sooner the better.”74 “The fist,” asserted a Fascist militant in 1920, “is the synthesis of our theory.”75 Mussolini liked to declare that he himself was the definition of Fascism. The will and leadership of a Duce was what a modern people needed, not a doctrine. Only in 1932, after he had been in power for ten years, and when he wanted to “normalize” his regime, did Mussolini expound Fascist doctrine, in an article (partly ghostwritten by the philosopher Giovanni Gentile) for the new Enciclopedia italiana.

Power came first, then doctrine. Hannah Arendt observed that Mussolini

“was probably the first party leader who consciously rejected a formal program and replaced it with inspired leadership and action alone.”77

Hitler did present a program (the 25 Points of February 1920), but he pronounced it immutable while ignoring many of its provisions. Though its anniversaries were celebrated, it was less a guide to action than a signal that debate had ceased within the party. In his first public address as chancellor, Hitler ridiculed those who say “show us the details of your program. I have refused ever to step before this Volk and make cheap promises.”

The anarchist cookbook does not count as "reading."

Say what you want about it, but at least you could gain some marketable skills reading it, if only to end in you accidentally blowing yourself up.

You have way too much faith in your average communist.

pseudo-intellectualism is what fueled the alt right. They watched a youtube video about a book which takes the stats of a study out of context from a social experiment performed in 1950s russia and act like they have a grasp on... well, anything because of it.

The whole thing is LARPing as someone who reads defunct studies.

Glory to the beauty of the Roman Empire!

If it weren't for those meddling Communists, Rome would be the greatest world superpower of them all!!

those meddling Communists

They called themselves Nazarenes or something retarded like that back in the day.

They read too much Marx and ate too much soy, the next thing you know they're extolling the virtues of Bolshevism!

If it weren't for those pesky Ottomans surely Byzantium would still be ours!

Byzantium fell because they didn’t close the borders to the muzzies

Also because the Fourth Crusade sacked Constantinople and left it ripe for the Ottomans to take as the schism between the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox church were cemented

Image of siege of Constantinople Conquest of the Eastern Orthodox city of Constantinople by the Crusaders in 1204 Pope Innocent III also began preaching what became the Fourth Crusade in 1200, primarily in France but also in England and Germany.[84] After gathering in Venice, the Crusade was used by Doge Enrico Dandolo and Philip of Swabia to further their secular ambitions. Dandolo's aim was to expand Venice's power in the Eastern Mediterranean, and Philip intended to restore his exiled nephew, Alexios IV Angelos, along with Angelos's father, Isaac II Angelos, to the throne of Byzantium. This would require overthrowing the present ruler, Alexios III Angelos, the uncle of Alexios IV.[85] When an insufficient number of knights arrived in Venice, the Crusaders were unable to pay the Venetians for a fleet, so they agreed to divert to Constantinople and share what could be looted as payment. As collateral, the Crusaders seized the Christian city of Zara; Innocent was appalled, and promptly excommunicated them.[86] However, the French Crusaders eventually had their excommunications lifted. When the original purpose of the campaign was defeated by the assassination of Alexios IV Angelos, they conquered Constantinople, not once but twice. Following upon their initial success, the Crusaders captured Constantinople again and this time sacked it, pillaging churches and killing many citizens. The Fourth Crusade never came within 1,000 miles of its objective of Jerusalem.[87]

Fascism is a set of emotional traits.

I think you're confused with Antifa.

logically retarded > emotionallly retarded

is this what you’re suggesting?

Fascism is a set of recessive traits.

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so is white skin

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Islam is conservative 🤔 🤔 🤔

Conserving what?

ANTIFA REEE

wtf I love pizzashill now

People are really late to the game on this based serious poster. Game respects game.

I've always appreciated pizzashill because he does the job that nobody else has the energy to do. I think he should get therapy for his emotional baggage tho.

I don't want therapy to interfere with this MGTOW centrist hero arc that is developing still.

Exactly!

Do I pick and prod at Pizzashill occasionally, sure.

Do I respect his commitment to arguments, HELL YEAH!

He is up there on the recognizable names of r/drama.

He is up there on the recognizable names of r/drama.

His parents must be so proud.

TBH he hates them so he probably doesn't care.

who DOESN'T he hate

good point.

I am an attorney and patriot with three degrees.

😂 more like with third degree burns after getting this bussyblasted about pizzashill.

/u/leftist_degenerate

Did you know that Romans invented communism?

It comes from a [Latin word after all.](en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/communis)

So does fellatio, but that doesn't mean Rome is responsible for your mom.

So whoms your favorite fascist from history?

Octavian

Nero

Okay, got me there, even if you're still wrong on every point I gotta respect that bantz

Cheers. Make America Great Again.

Dude, gotta give you props for that god-tier trolling. Absolutely outstanding.

WE WUZ ROMANZ

We still are.

Who the hell claims to be a fascist. I though that was just something edgelords on pol did to troll lefties.

Every impulse to the beautiful, strong and worthy is fascism. It is inevitable, just as liberty and socialism and totalitarianism are also inevitable.

I’ll never understand why you cucks keep enabling ‘known’ posters like pizzafag and that ed cock gobbler.

You know, if I had to side with u/pizzashill, that means you are really wrong about something.

Because Roman fascism built Western civilization and everything good in the world.

u/Leftist_Degenerate, Rome became an influential republic in the peninsula without Fascism, so I wouldn't stretch that far. Also Fascism didn't help people build computer, so I will also deem your second part of the argument invalid.

u/Leftist_Degenerate, Rome became an influential republic in the peninsula without Fascism

Nothing is without fascism.

Elaborate.

Computers made everyone gay and dumb, and fascism is NOT to blame.

Speak for yourself. I didn't blame fascism for anything in my replies.

Right. We are agreeing. Fascism is not to blame for the internet.

I guess you could say /u/pizzashill is antifa with how he just bashed that fash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvVfgvHucRY