‘King of Kong’ Star Stripped of High Scores, Banned From Competition

174  2018-04-12 by Zachums

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I wonder how many hours it takes to get 1 million points on that thing

how many

Way too many.

Imagine not keeping yourself safe after you achieve such a feat.

Nobody would have challenged his vid if he were dead

anywhere between 2-3 hours usually. Most of Mitchell's submitted scores were about 2 hours. Wiebe's games are longer as he seems to play more conservatively, his are usually as long as 3hrs.

Some of the speed runs to a million are as little as 80 min!

Its that pesky kill screen!

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Summoning Salt did a whole video about the IRL behind-the-scenes stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQ2vEHq2N4

I absolutely love this guy's channel. Really well thought out and informative. He's got a nice voice too

This video is a good detailed look at it too.

https://youtu.be/234Y76_3YPE

He also had a great video exposing Todd Rogers.

Funny I would watch him to better myself inn punch out. Now he has juicy Twin Galaxies stuff.

I will never understand the hordes of people who spend their free time watching other people play video games, or those "reaction" videos - watching someone watch a video that you already watched. And they're so popular! Can someone explain the appeal? I honestly can't figure it out.

You like the personality who makes the videos. The issue is most people are not game grumps so they have none and they can't be arsed to edit out minutes of dead air.

And people who are successful without a personality have skill. Prime example: Shroud. Guy has the personality of a cum stained cardboard box but people watch him because he's really good at video games.

Speedruns are interesting as they're usually displays of high skill.

I can think of many inane things that take a lot of skill at high speed

You don’t have to like what others like, it’s okay

True. I feel like I'd be betraying the human race if I didn't make fun of them for it though.

speed running thing is really interesting the first couple of times you see it, but i have no idea how so many folks just kinda watch it all the time

Some games are more interesting to watch a speedrun of than others. A lot of games have a speedrun that's like a really fast let's play - it's kind of boring to watch. At least a let's player would have dialogue and let you read the text in game and such. Games like OOT are broken beyond all fuck though with a thousand techniques that are all combined by the speedrunners, it can be an interesting experience. Still I only generally watch a new speedrun of OOT when a new technique comes out.

Well film some of it and put it on Youtube and cash in.

people watch videos of people stacking cups

I have to admit, watching videos of competitive Rubik's Cube races is entertaining in its own weird way.

i agree! i love certain speedruns, but i am a nerd so there's that.

Fuck off, nerd.

well, what you’re talking about is like five different kinds of videos

a speedrunner like this is like an athlete, except lame. you’re supposed to marvel at their skill and depth of game knowledge as they go for the world record. some speedrunners are funny and charming, but that’s exceedingly rare.

critics make videos to illustrate why they thought a game sucked or didn’t suck, using carefully selected footage to support their points. people watch them mainly to find out if a game’s good, but an entertaining critic will have audiences watching reviews of games they aren’t interested in.

a video game “comedian” usually edits their gameplay to their wackiest moments, usually incorporating sketch comedy or reviews into their videos. people watch them for the same reason they watch jackass or big bang theory

a let’s player is like a comedian except they don’t edit their videos or write jokes. there’s presumably some appeal to their personality, and the viewer also gets to vicariously experience the feedback from successfully playing the game, which is usually meant to appeal to addicts. there are also longplayers who only cater to the second crowd, as well as curious people with nostalgia.

a streamer is like a let’s player but even worse. people watch them to feel like they have friends.

and literally all of them are completely and utterly worthless

Eh, I'd argue that critics and let's plays have importance, because a critic can give you a summarized perspective on why you may like or dislike a potential purchase, and a let's play shows how the game actually handles, what gameplay is like, etc.

maybe they have some use but saying they have 'importance' is laughable. they're just random assholes giving opinions (critics) or random assholes playing the game (let's plays) and generally their input is no more or less informed than Joe Shmoe.

but hey i'm biased anyways, i think modern reviewers are way overblown and people put way too much stock into some youtuber's opinion and treat it as gospel.

I mean sure, in the grand scheme of things pretty much anyone posting videos on YouTube isn't "important." A better term would definitely be useful. I think on the critic side of it, it's useful if you know the critic and have a good feel for their tastes, where you agree, where you disagree. The let's plays I think of as less useful for the direct input of the player and more useful for the chance to see unfiltered gameplay in action.

but the only correct opinion is mine and everyone else is wrong

Oof forgot about that, tru

They're not important people but the fact that they exist as an alternative to faggot journos with no integrity is pretty important imo

critics do something

fuck let’s players, make the second one speedrunners. at least they do charity

Eh, it depends. I can watch a whole lot of reviews of a game, but at the end of the day I still will want to see how it actually operates outside of specially tailored promotional materials. I don't get people who watch let's plays all the way through and get invested in the personality of the player, but as far as pure gameplay they can be quite helpful.

that’s literally what longplays are for ya goof

and gameplay previews

Speaking of speedrunning charity, here's a fun fact: only about 20% of the Prevent Cancer Foundation's funding from AGDQ and other sources goes towards cancer research.

Let's keep the second one as Let's Players

ok, but what about the other 55% that goes to cancer prevention, detection and treatment programs?

ya fucknut

Let’s keep the second one as Let’s Players

no, any of the others above them. including nothing, there doesn’t need to be a second one

at least longplays don’t yell inane horseshit

You're absolutely right; it's just funny to see how many people donate to the PCF without understanding what the organization actually does.

Mixing up longplays and Let's Plays was my mistake. It's true that the disappearance of commentated LPs would be a net improvement for the world.

He just threw the rod into the water.

while making literally millions of dollars a year more than you.

a streamer is like a let’s player but even worse

Probably the smartest though, best money to effort ratio.

A lot of speedrunners stream their endless runs and practice sessions. Very valuable for them. So there's some overlap.

some people do several or all of these things

depends on how stupid and affluent your fans are

gah, a serious effort post in /r/drama! nasty!

YIKES!

it’s insulting enough to be worth it

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critics make videos to illustrate why they thought a game sucked or didn’t suck, using carefully selected footage to support their points. people watch them mainly to find out if a game’s good, but an entertaining critic will have audiences watching reviews of games they aren’t interested in.

Sometimes they do reviews for buyers, some are more into masturbatory analysis that spoils everything and is only useful after you've played they game though.

Like one in every three hundred lets plays is interesting.

I can talk about thing I did watch.

Minecraft art streamer. Those are really usefull if you care about how your house look like in minecraft, because they have a lot of interesting trick and advices.

Competitive game streamers. Those take match by pro gamer and comment them. It's usefull because you can see the different strats of the current meta and they help a lot learning how to play correctly a game.

usefull

It's usefull to your own goals, isn't it? The fact that it doesn't lead toward anything productive doesn't make it any less usefull.

usefull

usefull

I like l. Don't kinkshame me.

You disgust me to my core.

Thanks bby 😘

Those are really usefull if you care about how your house look like in minecraft

i suppose this is the caliber of poster this subreddit deserves

I was a very autistic kid.

No shit

As jesus said, the one who never watched a woman in her forties and a 15 year old build minecraft houses cast the first stone.

I love watching women in general, but I hate 15 year old boys

I love watching women in general

So how is your life, as a consummate stalker?

A lot better in every way, I assume, than someone who watches kids play minecraft

Hey, I was a kid at the times. I have a

I have not actually started physically stalking so I'm thinking I'm not gonna start

I have not actually started physically stalking

The fact that you are insisting on the physically part is worrying, tbh.

idk how to keep this larp going, im at the end of my rope here

Well, at least you don't kill women, like onitan.

i have also heard that /u/onitan killds women?

I will never understand the hordes of people who spend their free time watching other people play video games

proceeds to watch sports on TV

No nerd, videogames aren't sports.

prolly b8

Yeah, I don't know where someone would get off equivocating the two.

sports and videogames are completely different, i agree. Whats exactly the same is being a lardass and staring at a screen.

Oh, theres a ton of activity behind the sports watcher. A whole ton of drunk, angry activity.

football is dnd for jocks

More like LARPing for jocks. Which is pretty fun by the way, granted you do it with a bunch of jocks. No magic missiles, just bashing each other with sticks.

Your point? It's something you can't do on your own and at least there's community involvement with that. And I mean actual community, like in real life.

It's something you can't do on your own and at least there's community involvement with that.

I mean, not everyone can be a manlet who’s terrible at video games but uses his fanbase to publicly extol child porn—that’s why I watch /u/NeoDestiny.

This comment is why we need gamercide.

I'll spell it out for you:

One is a social event watching cool people (usually non-mayo) doing cool things.

The other is exclusively for social outcasts watching pussies (usually mayo) doing pussy things.

It's a social interaction simulator for spergy kids.

That's kinda what I assumed.

why do people watch movies with commentary tracks?

That comparison is bad and you should feel bad.

Some games are literally described as interactive movies and you think the comparison is bad....goddamn idiot

Some games have developer commentary tracks too. It's to gain additional insight from the people who made the game/movie, not from random nobodies who act goofy. That's why you and your comparison are retarded.

Wait you’ve never heard of all the popular commentary tracks for movies from random nobodies?

Check out https://redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/audio

Or how about mystery science theater 3000

I find it concerning you seemingly lack the ability to understand the appeal of an activity literally millions of people from all over he world enjoy just because you yourself do not.

Wait you’ve never heard of all the popular commentary tracks for movies from random nobodies?

No, and I'm sure 90%+ of the general population hasn't either.

Well better add it to the list of entertainment formats that confuses you.

Guess so. It's hard to keep up with all these new and super obscure "entertainment" formats nowadays.

Hell, a few months ago I found out about people who literally just livestream their daily life and people watch it. It's hard to get more pathetic than that but I have no doubt that humanity will come up with an even more pathetic hobby soon.

Real reality tv! sad ppl like to live vicariously.

I will never understand the hordes of people who spend their free time watching other people play video games, or those "reaction" videos - watching someone watch a video that you already watched. And they're so popular! Can someone explain the appeal? I honestly can't figure it out.

autism

EDIT: I sincerely had no idea this sub of all places was filled with turbo nerds who unironically enjoy watching other people play games and watch videos. TIL

autism

Wasn't there a video game high scorer whose friend was an admin at this site, so he could lie about his scores and get away with it. He could claim he got 1 million on the dot and the second place was around 50000. In one case, he posted some "evidence" of his score but claims the photo was coffee stained but they let him slide anyway.

Yeah, Todd Rogers.

This one’s mainly notable because they made a (very entertaining) movie about it

As /u/die_rattan said it was Rogers. That friend is a convicted could rapist.

It was the same website that banned this guy.

That Mitchell and Wiebe Look....

That’s abboying

Apparently he's also suing Apollo Legends, the Youtuber who collected the data that proved he was a fraud.

He said he was going to sue, but according to Apollo he hasn't actually filed anything.

There was that movie about this guy and donkey Kong and some other folks. This guy is pretty creepy..

Great film

King of Kong: Fist full of Quarters!

Also KILL SCREEN COMING UP

Its in the god damn title

At least he still has his hot sauce empire. Oh wait, I've never seen them in a single store ever.

Just think of all the pussy he's going to miss out on now.

I'm old enough to have played Donkey Kong when it was a new game as a wee lad.

I have all the possible nostalgia points possible.

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS GAME STILL A RELEVANT THING?

How autistic do you need to be to make mastering it your lifes great achievement?

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

USA

Holy fuck that website is cancer

Talk about a face for professional gaming, goddamn.

speed runners as a hobby is like the dumbest pathetic shit. its up there with being a "coupon-er" IMO

At least 10,000 rolls of free toilet paper is useful.

I actually thought this already happened. I thought Twin Galaxies panicked after the Todd Rodgers fiasco and purged all the bullshit peddling scumbags from the old guard. Guess not.

Either way that Apollo Legend dude is straight up bending these guys over the laundry sink, lifting up their skirts, and fucking them until they're humble.

And you know what? Good. Fuck them and their fraudulent revenue streams. I know speed running and video game scores aren't exactly Nobel Prize worthy endeavors, but it's satisfying to see lying douchebags get a dose of just desserts every once and awhile.

Also fuck him for suing Mordecai and Rigby. Asshole.

Fuck them and their fraudulent revenue streams

If I could get paid to cheat at video games I would do it.

The Donkey Kong community leaderboards had already removed Billy, but Twin Galaxies has a formal dispute process that had to be used before his scores were taken down.

That said, outside of his "fame", his DK scores aren't exactly top of the charts anymore, so it's mostly notable for its historical impact.

Old drama, NEXT!

Didn’t regular show do an episode featuring a character that was this guy?

yes

Billy sued them for it and lost.

Gotta let Garrett Bobby Ferguson win the galactic high score