[There is no science behind psychiatry and you cant learn it. If you read a few books you can become a very good psychiatrist. So that means its only a opinion of the psychiatric association, not a fact covered by science.
Gert Postel is a great example of a psychiatrist without proper education and nobody knew it.]
I dunno, maybe you should ask the specialist medical doctors and researchers who make the decisions? Or rather, tell them that they're full of shit, since you clearly seem to know better.
So by your logic, it was appropriate to give gays and lesbians electric shocks fifty years ago? Those were medical doctors and trained psychologists administering the shocks. So since they were trained professionals, it was the right thing to do... right?
You can't slice up a cock and call it a pussy, moron. All you have is a mutilated cock.
This was more a political thing than anything, because society decided homosexuality was a mental illness that needed treating.
So... you're saying that medical doctors shocking and lobotomizing homosexuals was just the result of a "political thing," but there's no chance in hell that medical doctors giving children hormones that will render them infertile and mutilating people's genitals could be the result of a "political thing?"
Considering that the medical community is fighting the general public on this, no. If they were to bend to political pressure from people like you, they'd stop giving desperate people a treatment which massively reduces their risk of suicide and a future of mental illness while allowing them to live comfortably.
Considering that the medical community is fighting the general public on this, no.
What in God's fucking name are you talking about. Time magazine has covers devoted to the "trans struggle." If you say that you even slightly doubt trans hysteria in public you get bitched out. When doctors argue that transgenderism is a mental illness based on their professional knowledge they're called "bigots."
they'd stop giving desperate people a treatment which massively reduces their risk of suicide and a future of mental illness while allowing them to live comfortably.
Thinking it's a mental illness just makes this more bizarre. You believe these people are unwell, we have a treatment that's been shown to significantly improve their lives, and you want to deny it to them because you don't like the sound of it?
So you're saying it's not a mental illness, it's just a situation where a person will kill themselves if they're not given radical cosmetic surgery. But it's not a mental illness.
Can you tell me any other disorder that we treat with plastic surgery?
especially when 70-80% of them will grow out of these feelings.
That's why permanent transition requires years worth of assessments, living as the adopted gender for a significant amount of time, and is all done by a doctor specialising in the condition.
You want to deny people medical care because you think you know better. I think treatment for trans people probably will be banned, just like we banned effective treatments for drug addiction 100 years ago - prosecuting the doctors who continued to treat their patients - and just like we banned effective medicines for various mental illnesses.
People who want to deny people medical care are scum. The treatment has side effects, just like most treatments, but it works better than anything else available, which is why it's given by doctors with extensive training and following carefully crafted procedures. You, or I, or fucking anyone except doctors and their patients should not be telling people they can and can't have particular treatments.
That's why permanent transition requires years worth of assessments, living as the adopted gender for a significant amount of time, and is all done by a doctor specialising in the condition.
So if a 9-year-old is given hormone therapy, you're saying it's a-okay as long as they've been living as their assumed gender since they were four or five? Do you still want the same things out of life that you did when you were four-years-old?
You want to deny people medical care because you think you know better.
I asked you before: What other disorder requires cosmetic surgery as a treatment? If you're a man who feels very feminine, then live your best feminine life. But be who you are. Don't become this over-the-top parody of womanhood with these big fake breasts and call it "medical treatment." It's not, it's cosmetic and its fashion. Lipstick and big boobs don't make a woman a woman, so in my estimation, they should be "treatment" for a man who thinks he's a woman.
People who want to deny people medical care are scum.
People who urge people, including children, to have radical and irreversible procedures because it's currently trendy are the real scum.
The treatment has side effects, just like most treatments, but it works better than anything else available, which is why it's given by doctors with extensive training and following carefully crafted procedures.
No it doesn't. The suicide risks aren't decreased after surgery. Furthermore, there's a rising number of people who seriously regret their transition. Those numbers are going to double in the years to come. You can slice open a penis and call it a pussy, but guess what, you can't put that shit back together when you realize you've made a horrible mistake.
You, or I, or fucking anyone except doctors and their patients should not be telling people they can and can't have particular treatments.
Don't slice up bussy and tell me it's gussy, period.
Do you still want the same things out of life that you did when you were four-years-old?
No, but I'm the same gender as I was when I was four years old. You do realise hormone therapy doesn't cause permanent changes? And people that young don't get surgery because it's recognised that condition can go away when reaching surgery?
What other disorder requires cosmetic surgery as a treatment?
Burns.
Not that it's really relevant. What illness other than cancer requires blasting your body with radiation and stuffing you up with poisons? Ban chemo!!!
so in my estimation, they shouldn't be "treatment" for a man who thinks he's a woman.
Frankly, why should the medical community and people living with a condition give a fuck about your estimation?
who urge people
Christ, how fucking melodramatic. Nobody's urging anyone. People should be allowed medical care if they want it, and if they don't want it, they don't have to have it.
This really is the moral panic of our generation. Not too long ago, people said this same utter tripe about homosexuality. If you start letting them be gay, they'll turn all our kids gay! Think of the kids!
No it doesn't. The suicide risks aren't decreased after surgery.
You supplied one piece of evidence for this... from 2004. It's almost as if you either don't want to do any actual research, or don't know how, and probably shouldn't be telling medical bodies how to do their jobs.
After gender reassignment, in young adulthood, the GD was alleviated and psychological functioning had steadily improved. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population. Improvements in psychological functioning were positively correlated with postsurgical subjective well-being.
Very low quality evidence suggests that sex reassignment that includes hormonal interventions in individuals with GID likely improves gender dysphoria, psychological functioning and comorbidities, sexual function and overall quality of life.
You fucking retard. A burn isn't a disorder. It's a traumatic injury. Obviously if you injure yourself and it causes a disfigurement, you seek out reconstructive surgery.
I'll ask you a third time: Can you name a single disorder that we treat with cosmetic surgery?
This really is the moral panic of our generation.
I agree that "oh my God, suddenly thousands of kindergarteners are realizing that they have gender dysphoria, better let them transition!" is a moral panic.
This study is bunk. They followed fifty-five trans people until a year after their transition. That says nothing about long-term suicide risks. I have no doubt that after satisfying the whims of their mental illness that people experience short-term happiness. I'd urge these psychologists to check back in five years or a decade.
Anyways, you're a fucking soyboy numale douche, keep yourself safe.
I'll ask you a third time: Can you name a single disorder that we treat with cosmetic surgery?
I'll tell you again: it's utterly irrelevant you fucking mong. When a new treatment is developed do you think doctors say "oh, well, we can only use this to treat condition A if there's at least one more condition we can use it for too"? What sort of fucking reasoning is this?
"oh my God, suddenly thousands of kindergarteners are realizing that they have gender dysphoria, better let them transition!"
See? Panicking about something that's not even happening, and using it to justify doing awful things.
You conveniently ignored the systematic review. Nice.
Tell ya what. You show me that sweet bussy and I will never say or do another transphobic thing again.
Choose wisely here. Your failure to give me what I want could literally cause millions of trans people to keep themselves safe. Be better. Do the right thing. Post bussy.
So if a 9-year-old is given hormone therapy, you're saying it's a-okay as long as they've been living as their assumed gender since they were four or five? Do you still want the same things out of life that you did when you were four-years-old?
There are 2 distinct hormonal therapies for transgender people; The one that turns off their natural ( i.e undesired ) hormones, the one that injects hormones of the opposite sex into them. The one being discussed in the article is the first, which doesn't have too many ill effects, and certainly much fewer than undergoing a puberty of the wrong sex - which is what would happen without it.
Nobody is gonna trigger a female puberty in a 9 years old boy, you're strawmanning to the extreme here, the goal is to delay puberty in people claiming to be transgender so they have more time to know which gender they actually are, and then just have them undergo the puberty of the desired sex.
What other disorder requires cosmetic surgery as a treatment?
Depends on what you mean by disorder, but body image problems do lead fairly frequently to surgery, from people who are too fat, who have deformities, to people who think one of their limbs should be cut off - and you're not gonna tell me this is any less life-changing than sex reassignment.
If you're a man who feels very feminine, then live your best feminine life.
There is a very clear difference between feeling feminine and feeling woman, and it is one of the very first things you will be told when seeing a psychiatrist for transgenderism. In fact some transgenders don't plan on being particularly womanly/manly afterward.
Don't become this over-the-top parody of womanhood with these big fake breasts and call it "medical treatment." It's not, it's cosmetic and its fashion. Lipstick and big boobs don't make a woman a woman, so in my estimation, they shouldn't be "treatment" for a man who thinks he's a woman.
I'm not sure how much of this is just things you've heard probably transphobic people say, but there is a reason many transgender people "overdo" their feminity, it's because they need it. People won't think you're a woman if you don't show typically womanly attributes; For a natural woman, her natural body will be enough most of the time, but for transgenders, that won't be the case.
Take yourself as an example; Would you look like a woman with size A boobs, nothing in your pants and long hair ? No, you'd look like a man, maybe slightly androgynous, maybe a strange man, but a man.
People who urge people, including children, to have radical and irreversible procedures because it's currently trendy are the real scum.
Again, children aren't urged to undergo surgery, they go through a long process to assess if they are indeed transgender. Maybe the USA is a different matter because health is more of a private sector matter there, but in some European countries, less than 5% of operated transgenders regret the decision.
No it doesn't. The suicide risks aren't decreased after surgery. Furthermore, there's a rising number of people who seriously regret their transition. Those numbers are going to double in the years to come. You can slice open a penis and call it a pussy, but guess what, you can't put that shit back together when you realize you've made a horrible mistake.
This is a very misleading argument because it doesn't consider that the reasons of those suicides aren't the same. Some people do regret their decision - less in countries with stricter, often publicly settled procedures for transgender people - but most suicide because the life of an operated transgender just isn't easy.
You're talking like surgery would suddenly erase all problems in a "true transgender"'s life, but it just won't. A transgender, even operated, will never live a normal life, and some transgenders are, I'm sorry to say, lost causes, and will never have a decent life.
And this isn't about the surgery, it's about transgenderism being a catch 22 situation; Either you have a normal body and feel bad in it, or you have a botched up body that might be more in accordance with what you would want it to look like, but most of the time, it won't be much better.
Transgenderism isn't a condition with a perfect solution, and for most transgender people, not anywhere near a decent solution at all. That's why people want young people's claims of transgenderism not only to be taken seriously, but also to be followed up on, and not by surgery, but by delaying their puberty; Someone who doesn't undergo puberty of their undesired sex have MUCH better chances, and as explained earlier, it doesn't actually take much to do that, it only takes delaying puberty, both puberties, to be exact, until it can be safely ascertained which gender they should live in.
Considering that the medical community is fighting the general public on this, no. If they were to bend to political pressure from people like you, they'd stop giving desperate people a treatment which massively reduces their risk of suicide and a future of mental illness while allowing them to live comfortably.
There are many people in the medical community in total disagreement with this. Ideologically the trannys won when the got the DSM changed with their campaigning, but it never changed their obvious derangement.
and now it decided that it isn't a mental illness. whether or not it is one is irrelevant, though, but psychologists are and always have been pseudoscientists who are too stupid to be in real scientific fields so we won't get a good answer ever
queers used to be considered ""mentally ill"" because they were deviant and unnatural, therefore trannies are ""mentally ill"" because i think theyre deviant and unnatural
Gay people aren't mutilating their fucking bodies. Besides, they're not claiming anything delusional. But somehow I shouldn't agree with an anorexic that he's fat or with a schizophrenic that the Post Office is out to kill him, yet I'm supposed to go with the delusion of a man who thinks he's a woman?
Hmm, maybe you should consult literally any medical journal or DSM prior to the tranny takeover?
What's this even meant to mean? Look at an early enough medical journal and you'll find that homosexuality is a mental illness, look even further back and you'll find you can cure just about any illness by draining the humours. Maybe we should base all our medical practice on the writings of fucking Aristotle.
That's why decisions are made based on the most up to date evidence you utter fucking moron.
That's why decisions are made based on the most up to date evidence you utter fucking moron.
The most up to date evidence belies their claims though, trannys commit suicide too frequently, and the changing of mental illness or not doesn't negate the obvious symptoms of mental illness related to gender transition. Also, you seem upset.
There's no evidence, they decided being gay wasn't a mental illness because it hurt gay people's feelings. Psychiatry doesn't use the scientific method, they aren't finding physiological abnormalities that lead to illness, they decide by vote whether or not something is an illness despite no physical evidence that a disorder is taking place. We're going to see internet addiction disorder in the next dsm
being gay probably technically is a mental disorder, but on a scale of harmful shit that can go wrong with you it's so far down on the list that it's a literally who gives a shit problem
I think homosexuality technically isn't a mental illness because it doesn't cause significant distress or impairment in daily functioning, which is a requirement.
I'm starting to get the impression that r/Drama doesn't like feminine penis. Do you know what's behind that penis? A sweet, fresh bussy. Consider yourself woke-afied.
Mostly because we can't actually treat it. If we come up with a gender-alignment pill it would be classified like that. But as is people have to live with it and they don't want to be called mentally ill. Similar to BIID, but that one lacks a movement.
If someone puts the head of a superman Lego figure on the body of batman, which is seems to be misplaced? The head or the body? Body mass wise, the body is like 85% batman but it's the head that gives a lot of personality and in this case, of superman (basically like how brains determine your "self" state)
This problem has a "chicken or the egg came first?" kind of vibe to it. Brains are susceptible to not being in line with the physical body. There's body integrity identity disorder too which is some weird shit.
It is an illness? Yes. The problem that has existed for centuries is that "mental problems" carry a strong social stigma which negatively impacts the "curing process". With what we have, changing your name you identify, the way you cloth, some cosmetic surgery and hormonal therapy (in adults' case) is the "cure". Reminding them every instant of their lives that they are mentally ill (even when the dysphoria isn't there) negatively impact their mental well being. All the hardwork can go to shit.
It's going to be entertaining total reversing the entire conservative revolution and resigning Trumpism and Reaganism to the dustbin of history too. We will destroy everything you know and love. We will annihilate your culture and history. We will destroy the resentful, useless, imperialist flyover regions that seek to control and destroy us because they're jealous of our success and angry at their own self-imposed failures.
Go back to CA and keep yourself safe Nazi tard. Your people are a cancer upon us, you are literally useless, if I could I would've changed my major to chemistry to create and spread as much fentanyl as possible to depopulate the entirety of middle America. White genocide cannot come soon enough. You're seething resentment of our success and our immense superiority, and your desire to impose your fascism upon us, will backfire tremendously. We will destroy your family, your culture, your history, all your values. We will annihilate everything you believe in. We would've left you alone to swim around in your own shit and piss over in buttfuck Mississippi, but then you had to initiate a coup and impose Trump upon us. Now you have made us angry. White genocide just got one century sooner.
I know people are visual and curious. If you're wondering what I look like, I'm not an ultra feminine person, and usually dress rather butch in my day-to-day life. Here's me, cheers: https://i.imgur.com/WzjSGEC.jpg
What do you think about gaining all of the attention that you have? Do you think that some of the criticisms against you have any merit, or not so much? Why do you think that you've attracted so much attention compared to others from similar backgrounds?
What do you think about gaining all of the attention that you have?
Whatever. There's more to come. It's at least done some good though: Vegas had to confront the issue of trans people in bathrooms last year, and MGM retrained all of their employees about the incident. Now no one gives anyone shit, which is nice.
Also, after the TSA incident I think they may have updated their software to account for the possibility that women can have a penis. I've simply asked to be scanned as a woman ever since then, and never had a problem afterwards.
Do you think that some of the criticisms against you have any merit, or not so much?
Female puberty is hard. Instances of actual discrimination and prejudice mixed with a volatile cocktail of new emotions is going to produce some interesting results.
Why do you think that you've attracted so much attention compared to others from similar backgrounds?
Selling my two bitcoin(roughly) at 16k was the best choice of my life. Sure I could have milked a couple extra thousand out of that cunt but I'm not a psychic. I've been writing free of stress and without needing to work for 6 months now. If I died today i'd be happy. I thank crypto for that.
That being said, crypto is a fucking scam, and is hilariously easy to manipulate by the powers that be, making it proof that libertarianism is non-functionable in its current form.
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1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-05-05
If you inhale hard enough you can catch all kinds of pseudoscience in the air of that post.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
/u/dom-0 is a fucking hero as far as I'm concerned
1 LedinToke 2018-05-05
Doing God's work
1 dom-0 2018-05-05
Haha just seeing the reality. Good thing is, now my post isnt downvoted to hell anymore.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-05
I see that it's terminal.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-05-05
How the hell can thinking you 're a woman trapped in a male body not considered mentally ill.
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
I dunno, maybe you should ask the specialist medical doctors and researchers who make the decisions? Or rather, tell them that they're full of shit, since you clearly seem to know better.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
So by your logic, it was appropriate to give gays and lesbians electric shocks fifty years ago? Those were medical doctors and trained psychologists administering the shocks. So since they were trained professionals, it was the right thing to do... right?
You can't slice up a cock and call it a pussy, moron. All you have is a mutilated cock.
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
This was more a political thing than anything, because society decided homosexuality was a mental illness that needed treating.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
So... you're saying that medical doctors shocking and lobotomizing homosexuals was just the result of a "political thing," but there's no chance in hell that medical doctors giving children hormones that will render them infertile and mutilating people's genitals could be the result of a "political thing?"
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-05-05
This is an interesting article about the dsm https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/the-real-problems-with-psychiatry/275371/
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
Considering that the medical community is fighting the general public on this, no. If they were to bend to political pressure from people like you, they'd stop giving desperate people a treatment which massively reduces their risk of suicide and a future of mental illness while allowing them to live comfortably.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
What in God's fucking name are you talking about. Time magazine has covers devoted to the "trans struggle." If you say that you even slightly doubt trans hysteria in public you get bitched out. When doctors argue that transgenderism is a mental illness based on their professional knowledge they're called "bigots."
Transitioning does not reduce the risk of suicide.
I'm against making children infertile due to the whims of a society going through a phase, especially when 70-80% of them will grow out of these feelings.
So you're saying it's not a mental illness, it's just a situation where a person will kill themselves if they're not given radical cosmetic surgery. But it's not a mental illness.
Can you tell me any other disorder that we treat with plastic surgery?
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
That's why permanent transition requires years worth of assessments, living as the adopted gender for a significant amount of time, and is all done by a doctor specialising in the condition.
You want to deny people medical care because you think you know better. I think treatment for trans people probably will be banned, just like we banned effective treatments for drug addiction 100 years ago - prosecuting the doctors who continued to treat their patients - and just like we banned effective medicines for various mental illnesses.
People who want to deny people medical care are scum. The treatment has side effects, just like most treatments, but it works better than anything else available, which is why it's given by doctors with extensive training and following carefully crafted procedures. You, or I, or fucking anyone except doctors and their patients should not be telling people they can and can't have particular treatments.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
So if a 9-year-old is given hormone therapy, you're saying it's a-okay as long as they've been living as their assumed gender since they were four or five? Do you still want the same things out of life that you did when you were four-years-old?
I asked you before: What other disorder requires cosmetic surgery as a treatment? If you're a man who feels very feminine, then live your best feminine life. But be who you are. Don't become this over-the-top parody of womanhood with these big fake breasts and call it "medical treatment." It's not, it's cosmetic and its fashion. Lipstick and big boobs don't make a woman a woman, so in my estimation, they should be "treatment" for a man who thinks he's a woman.
People who urge people, including children, to have radical and irreversible procedures because it's currently trendy are the real scum.
No it doesn't. The suicide risks aren't decreased after surgery. Furthermore, there's a rising number of people who seriously regret their transition. Those numbers are going to double in the years to come. You can slice open a penis and call it a pussy, but guess what, you can't put that shit back together when you realize you've made a horrible mistake.
Don't slice up bussy and tell me it's gussy, period.
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
No, but I'm the same gender as I was when I was four years old. You do realise hormone therapy doesn't cause permanent changes? And people that young don't get surgery because it's recognised that condition can go away when reaching surgery?
Burns.
Not that it's really relevant. What illness other than cancer requires blasting your body with radiation and stuffing you up with poisons? Ban chemo!!!
Frankly, why should the medical community and people living with a condition give a fuck about your estimation?
Christ, how fucking melodramatic. Nobody's urging anyone. People should be allowed medical care if they want it, and if they don't want it, they don't have to have it.
This really is the moral panic of our generation. Not too long ago, people said this same utter tripe about homosexuality. If you start letting them be gay, they'll turn all our kids gay! Think of the kids!
You supplied one piece of evidence for this... from 2004. It's almost as if you either don't want to do any actual research, or don't know how, and probably shouldn't be telling medical bodies how to do their jobs.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696.short
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
Even the extremely pro-trans BuzzFeed acknowledges that transition "therapy" can cause infertility.
You fucking retard. A burn isn't a disorder. It's a traumatic injury. Obviously if you injure yourself and it causes a disfigurement, you seek out reconstructive surgery.
I'll ask you a third time: Can you name a single disorder that we treat with cosmetic surgery?
I agree that "oh my God, suddenly thousands of kindergarteners are realizing that they have gender dysphoria, better let them transition!" is a moral panic.
This study is bunk. They followed fifty-five trans people until a year after their transition. That says nothing about long-term suicide risks. I have no doubt that after satisfying the whims of their mental illness that people experience short-term happiness. I'd urge these psychologists to check back in five years or a decade.
Anyways, you're a fucking soyboy numale douche, keep yourself safe.
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
I'll tell you again: it's utterly irrelevant you fucking mong. When a new treatment is developed do you think doctors say "oh, well, we can only use this to treat condition A if there's at least one more condition we can use it for too"? What sort of fucking reasoning is this?
See? Panicking about something that's not even happening, and using it to justify doing awful things.
You conveniently ignored the systematic review. Nice.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
Tell ya what. You show me that sweet bussy and I will never say or do another transphobic thing again.
Choose wisely here. Your failure to give me what I want could literally cause millions of trans people to keep themselves safe. Be better. Do the right thing. Post bussy.
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
Lol seconded
Do it or I'll simulatole an Earth, and then destroy it
1 michgot 2018-05-05
Just asking if you've posted bussy yet and if you have please post it publicly instead of just PMing it thanks
1 Nadare3 2018-05-05
There are 2 distinct hormonal therapies for transgender people; The one that turns off their natural ( i.e undesired ) hormones, the one that injects hormones of the opposite sex into them. The one being discussed in the article is the first, which doesn't have too many ill effects, and certainly much fewer than undergoing a puberty of the wrong sex - which is what would happen without it.
Nobody is gonna trigger a female puberty in a 9 years old boy, you're strawmanning to the extreme here, the goal is to delay puberty in people claiming to be transgender so they have more time to know which gender they actually are, and then just have them undergo the puberty of the desired sex.
Depends on what you mean by disorder, but body image problems do lead fairly frequently to surgery, from people who are too fat, who have deformities, to people who think one of their limbs should be cut off - and you're not gonna tell me this is any less life-changing than sex reassignment.
There is a very clear difference between feeling feminine and feeling woman, and it is one of the very first things you will be told when seeing a psychiatrist for transgenderism. In fact some transgenders don't plan on being particularly womanly/manly afterward.
I'm not sure how much of this is just things you've heard probably transphobic people say, but there is a reason many transgender people "overdo" their feminity, it's because they need it. People won't think you're a woman if you don't show typically womanly attributes; For a natural woman, her natural body will be enough most of the time, but for transgenders, that won't be the case.
Take yourself as an example; Would you look like a woman with size A boobs, nothing in your pants and long hair ? No, you'd look like a man, maybe slightly androgynous, maybe a strange man, but a man.
Again, children aren't urged to undergo surgery, they go through a long process to assess if they are indeed transgender. Maybe the USA is a different matter because health is more of a private sector matter there, but in some European countries, less than 5% of operated transgenders regret the decision.
This is a very misleading argument because it doesn't consider that the reasons of those suicides aren't the same. Some people do regret their decision - less in countries with stricter, often publicly settled procedures for transgender people - but most suicide because the life of an operated transgender just isn't easy.
You're talking like surgery would suddenly erase all problems in a "true transgender"'s life, but it just won't. A transgender, even operated, will never live a normal life, and some transgenders are, I'm sorry to say, lost causes, and will never have a decent life.
And this isn't about the surgery, it's about transgenderism being a catch 22 situation; Either you have a normal body and feel bad in it, or you have a botched up body that might be more in accordance with what you would want it to look like, but most of the time, it won't be much better.
Transgenderism isn't a condition with a perfect solution, and for most transgender people, not anywhere near a decent solution at all. That's why people want young people's claims of transgenderism not only to be taken seriously, but also to be followed up on, and not by surgery, but by delaying their puberty; Someone who doesn't undergo puberty of their undesired sex have MUCH better chances, and as explained earlier, it doesn't actually take much to do that, it only takes delaying puberty, both puberties, to be exact, until it can be safely ascertained which gender they should live in.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
tl;dr. I've reached my maximum limit on serious posting for the evening. Now STFU and post bussy.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-05-05
You are retarded.
1 Intelligent_Delay 2018-05-05
Narcissism.
1 freet0 2018-05-05
Body Dysmorphic Disorder
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-05-05
There are many people in the medical community in total disagreement with this. Ideologically the trannys won when the got the DSM changed with their campaigning, but it never changed their obvious derangement.
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-05-05
I love our modern Lysenkoism
1 cvetley 2018-05-05
and now it decided that it isn't a mental illness. whether or not it is one is irrelevant, though, but psychologists are and always have been pseudoscientists who are too stupid to be in real scientific fields so we won't get a good answer ever
1 RollBread 2018-05-05
That is exactly what is happenning with trannies. Corrective surgery and hormone therapy don't lower the suicide rates in people with this illness.
It doesn't work.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2018-05-05
Damn son that's a good line of attack.
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-05
1 necrocannibal2 2018-05-05
Gay people aren't mutilating their fucking bodies. Besides, they're not claiming anything delusional. But somehow I shouldn't agree with an anorexic that he's fat or with a schizophrenic that the Post Office is out to kill him, yet I'm supposed to go with the delusion of a man who thinks he's a woman?
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-05
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-05-05
Well being psychiatry is a pseudoscience as is evident in the New dsm classifying depression as a mental illness but not a dude who larps as a woman.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-05-05
Hmm, maybe you should consult literally any medical journal or DSM prior to the tranny takeover?
You should look up the dilation threads on 4chan if your stomach is strong enough, these people are severely mentally ill.
1 nausk1 2018-05-05
What's this even meant to mean? Look at an early enough medical journal and you'll find that homosexuality is a mental illness, look even further back and you'll find you can cure just about any illness by draining the humours. Maybe we should base all our medical practice on the writings of fucking Aristotle.
That's why decisions are made based on the most up to date evidence you utter fucking moron.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-05-05
The most up to date evidence belies their claims though, trannys commit suicide too frequently, and the changing of mental illness or not doesn't negate the obvious symptoms of mental illness related to gender transition. Also, you seem upset.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-05-05
There's no evidence, they decided being gay wasn't a mental illness because it hurt gay people's feelings. Psychiatry doesn't use the scientific method, they aren't finding physiological abnormalities that lead to illness, they decide by vote whether or not something is an illness despite no physical evidence that a disorder is taking place. We're going to see internet addiction disorder in the next dsm
1 LedinToke 2018-05-05
being gay probably technically is a mental disorder, but on a scale of harmful shit that can go wrong with you it's so far down on the list that it's a literally who gives a shit problem
1 ahbslldud 2018-05-05
I think homosexuality technically isn't a mental illness because it doesn't cause significant distress or impairment in daily functioning, which is a requirement.
Trannies can obviously make no such argument.
1 LedinToke 2018-05-05
yeah that was kinda my point
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
I'm starting to get the impression that r/Drama doesn't like feminine penis. Do you know what's behind that penis? A sweet, fresh bussy. Consider yourself woke-afied.
1 Thulean-Dragon 2018-05-05
Bussy > frankengussy
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Pre op bby, the freshest of bussies.
1 freet0 2018-05-05
Mostly because we can't actually treat it. If we come up with a gender-alignment pill it would be classified like that. But as is people have to live with it and they don't want to be called mentally ill. Similar to BIID, but that one lacks a movement.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-05
If someone puts the head of a superman Lego figure on the body of batman, which is seems to be misplaced? The head or the body? Body mass wise, the body is like 85% batman but it's the head that gives a lot of personality and in this case, of superman (basically like how brains determine your "self" state)
This problem has a "chicken or the egg came first?" kind of vibe to it. Brains are susceptible to not being in line with the physical body. There's body integrity identity disorder too which is some weird shit.
It is an illness? Yes. The problem that has existed for centuries is that "mental problems" carry a strong social stigma which negatively impacts the "curing process". With what we have, changing your name you identify, the way you cloth, some cosmetic surgery and hormonal therapy (in adults' case) is the "cure". Reminding them every instant of their lives that they are mentally ill (even when the dysphoria isn't there) negatively impact their mental well being. All the hardwork can go to shit.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
/u/katiecharm Nice try, but everyone knows chicks don't give a fuck about autism bucks. Coinsperg = dudebro confirmed.
1 InferiorShortage 2018-05-05
Oh hey it's Katiecharm. Really mentally ill tranny. Long known lolcow. Has a thread on 🥝 farms iirc.
1 TayTaysMayoGussy 2018-05-05
/u/katiecharm Sir, would you care to comment on these allegations?
1 Neon_needles 2018-05-05
Nigga look like lloyd Christmas
1 Quality-Post 2018-05-05
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-05
We should just mod /u/katiecharm at this point and give her free reign to power-trip and ban users, would make for excellent drama.
1 LedinToke 2018-05-05
Underrated
1 ticktockwarrior 2018-05-05
You can just say kiwi farms. Hell some people here even link it. The sidebar says not to but the mods dont really give a shit.
1 InferiorShortage 2018-05-05
I was going to say it but my phone wanted me to put a kiwi emoji so I obliged
1 larrydocsportello 2018-05-05
Genius fuckin logic right there buddy
1 Keep_Yourself_Safe 2018-05-05
lol mad
1 larrydocsportello 2018-05-05
Great fuckin story man. Where do you find your source material?
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
Are you so triggered you had to reply to this post twice?
1 larrydocsportello 2018-05-05
Are you such a loser that you’re rotating alts to reply to me?
1 Ranilen 2018-05-05
🥝🥝🥝
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
Lol, I don't know what you're talking about everybody thinks you're a stupid lolcow
1 larrydocsportello 2018-05-05
I really just think U/InferiorShortage is a shit fucker. I don’t give a shit about kiwis.
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-05
you seem upset
1 InferiorShortage 2018-05-05
He's super upset.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-05
I'm on your side tbh, ur right about almost everything, keep fighting the good fight!
1 InferiorShortage 2018-05-05
Yeah he's following me around and sending me messages to eat a dick and shit. I'll make a post about it lmao
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
He is accusing me of being your alt via PM
1 InferiorShortage 2018-05-05
What a cock-knocker lole
1 TinyJibble 2018-05-05
All 4 of you are the same person tbh
1 comebepc 2018-05-05
Can I be your alt too?
1 michgot 2018-05-05
Back of the line.
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
It's going to be entertaining total reversing the entire conservative revolution and resigning Trumpism and Reaganism to the dustbin of history too. We will destroy everything you know and love. We will annihilate your culture and history. We will destroy the resentful, useless, imperialist flyover regions that seek to control and destroy us because they're jealous of our success and angry at their own self-imposed failures.
Go back to CA and keep yourself safe Nazi tard. Your people are a cancer upon us, you are literally useless, if I could I would've changed my major to chemistry to create and spread as much fentanyl as possible to depopulate the entirety of middle America. White genocide cannot come soon enough. You're seething resentment of our success and our immense superiority, and your desire to impose your fascism upon us, will backfire tremendously. We will destroy your family, your culture, your history, all your values. We will annihilate everything you believe in. We would've left you alone to swim around in your own shit and piss over in buttfuck Mississippi, but then you had to initiate a coup and impose Trump upon us. Now you have made us angry. White genocide just got one century sooner.
1 michgot 2018-05-05
Me 2 thanks
1 DisposableDoc 2018-05-05
I just made a new thread for this friend, please go find it
1 orangetato 2018-05-05
🥝
1 Thulean-Dragon 2018-05-05
SEETHING
1 GadolBoobies 2018-05-05
It's automatically removed by Reddit if you do. Admins have bots looking out for it. Even extended links like (DOTCOM) and (NEW ZEALAND FARMS).
1 ticktockwarrior 2018-05-05
Really? Coulda sworn I've seen people post direct links to it recently. Here's an example. It's the "is cnn literally isis" hyperlink. It is just a link to a picture hosted their though.
best evidence i could find on short notice but I'm pretty sure there isn't bots.
1 michgot 2018-05-05
Ye, our bois in the reddit admin house nuke ED and KF pages. You can use link shorteners that aren't blocked tho
1 GadolBoobies 2018-05-05
An example of a png picture, not to the forums or any information source.
File links are not the same as links to the site itself.
1 Intelligent_Delay 2018-05-05
Sidebar also said this.....Fucking hell ban this sub now.
1 ticktockwarrior 2018-05-05
That rule is fucking ancient. I'm pretty sure it's over 5 years old, from when SRD was a passable sub instead of a shithole.
1 Intelligent_Delay 2018-05-05
TBH I never read sidebars so you could be right. I just shitpost everywhere.
1 Lostx22 2018-05-05
Shit if I would look like that I would be asking for my money back
1 Senator_Chickpea 2018-05-05
Found LaVar Ball's account
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-05
Ok sure
1 Death_Trolley 2018-05-05
Uhhhhh...
1 freet0 2018-05-05
I guess he had one wig's worth of BTC
1 KingWayneX 2018-05-05
Thats classic feminine beauty right there.
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2018-05-05
wish I could link katiecharms insta here smh
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
I'm sure there's not too many Katie Charms on Instagram. It ain't that damn hard to find.
1 snallygaster 2018-05-05
What do you think about gaining all of the attention that you have? Do you think that some of the criticisms against you have any merit, or not so much? Why do you think that you've attracted so much attention compared to others from similar backgrounds?
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2018-05-05
u can be mean since its not a ping
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-05
Calling her a retard isn't gonna do it. Plus stuff like kys is till off limits so you still gotta watch out 👀
🕒tick🕞tock🕦
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
What do you think about gaining all of the attention that you have?
Whatever. There's more to come. It's at least done some good though: Vegas had to confront the issue of trans people in bathrooms last year, and MGM retrained all of their employees about the incident. Now no one gives anyone shit, which is nice.
Also, after the TSA incident I think they may have updated their software to account for the possibility that women can have a penis. I've simply asked to be scanned as a woman ever since then, and never had a problem afterwards.
Do you think that some of the criticisms against you have any merit, or not so much?
Female puberty is hard. Instances of actual discrimination and prejudice mixed with a volatile cocktail of new emotions is going to produce some interesting results.
Why do you think that you've attracted so much attention compared to others from similar backgrounds?
I'm good at it.
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Let it be known, Katie charm approves of the sharing of personal information and having xer's bussy plowed.
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
https://media2.giphy.com/media/o41sT7HoSQbo4/giphy.gif
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Can we at least get bussy pics?
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
I'm always busy.
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Read, boi
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
No time. Too busy.
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Post. BUSSY.
1 katiecharm 2018-05-05
Ohhh, I see. 😊 I think I got what you want.
https://i.imgur.com/yA6kOSL.jpg
1 buttcoinbuttcoin 2018-05-05
Disgusting.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-05
Mod this woman.
1 regionalfire 2018-05-05
That's some shitty transition, after pic is literally the before pic but with a wig.
1 Kumdogmillionaire 2018-05-05
Selling my two bitcoin(roughly) at 16k was the best choice of my life. Sure I could have milked a couple extra thousand out of that cunt but I'm not a psychic. I've been writing free of stress and without needing to work for 6 months now. If I died today i'd be happy. I thank crypto for that.
That being said, crypto is a fucking scam, and is hilariously easy to manipulate by the powers that be, making it proof that libertarianism is non-functionable in its current form.