He still talks about it some. For how long has he been "working on a PhD" anyway? I imagine he must be super behind on it since he spends an obscene amount of time posting on Reddit.
I'm going to have to stick my neck out for u/prince_kropotkin here a bit, he certainly showed awareness of as much as that:
>Capitalism was a "nightmare", i.e. the fear of things that could possibly come if merchants were allowed to take over society. Not a precise, defined definition or expectation of what capitalism would actually be.
Thatās the crux of what Iām talking about. Certain Chinese emperors and the noble class had a real disgust for merchants, seeing it as ignoble peasant labor that was unworthy of their kingdoms.
Krapotkin then takes this fact and injects his own Marxist feelings āthey must have been afraid because or capitalismā, disregarding the fact that-
Nobody had a Marxist point of view until the 1840s, at this point not even the Europeans had any idea of what a true market economy was or how itās effects (bad or good) would play out even if they did.
There is a perfectly rational reason for the Chinese government of the time to feel this way about trade besides them being pro to communists- the nobles who though this why were Confucianists, who regarded labor that produced something (like farming or crafting) over that that produced nothing. (With the exception of scholars and priests, whose works they saw as the most important).
And abyway these people Krapotkin and I are talking about didnāt even end up stopping free trade like he said, that was the Qing dynasty almost 200 years later and they left no stated reasoning for doing so.
Anyway enough seriousposting on drama, Iāve got bussy to look at.
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1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-05-07
Prince used to tell everyone he was on his way to a PhD. Now he doesn't talk about it when anyone brings it up.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-07
https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/8h7371/discussion_thread/dyj3l9i/
He still talks about it some. For how long has he been "working on a PhD" anyway? I imagine he must be super behind on it since he spends an obscene amount of time posting on Reddit.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2018-05-07
What if his PhD is on the nature of posting to reddit? š¤
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-07
Well it's supposedly in econ, which means it'll probably be just as useless.
1 Awayfone 2018-05-07
Inst he a socialist?
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-05-07
5 years
1 Pepperglue 2018-05-07
5 years sounds about right, for humanities degree at least.
1 snowkarl 2018-05-07
In Prince's world, feudalism is more equal and fair than capitalism.
Btw who has time to write those 800 word essays twice an hour on reddit for several consecutive years? I mean jesus.
1 Thhueros 2018-05-07
Also in /u/prince_kropotkin ās world, ideology and government direct history, and capitalism is the result of whitey, not industrialization.
Anarchists are the reason why Leon Trotsky is the worlds greatest hero.
1 finbarrgalloway 2018-05-07
Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded, no one feared capitalism or free trade considering those concepts didnāt even exist yet
1 Zero5urvivers 2018-05-07
The raw number of people who unironically think that all economies throughout history were capitalist or communist makes me mad.
1 GaymasterNacelle 2018-05-07
I'm going to have to stick my neck out for u/prince_kropotkin here a bit, he certainly showed awareness of as much as that:
>Capitalism was a "nightmare", i.e. the fear of things that could possibly come if merchants were allowed to take over society. Not a precise, defined definition or expectation of what capitalism would actually be.
1 finbarrgalloway 2018-05-07
Thatās the crux of what Iām talking about. Certain Chinese emperors and the noble class had a real disgust for merchants, seeing it as ignoble peasant labor that was unworthy of their kingdoms.
Krapotkin then takes this fact and injects his own Marxist feelings āthey must have been afraid because or capitalismā, disregarding the fact that-
Nobody had a Marxist point of view until the 1840s, at this point not even the Europeans had any idea of what a true market economy was or how itās effects (bad or good) would play out even if they did.
There is a perfectly rational reason for the Chinese government of the time to feel this way about trade besides them being pro to communists- the nobles who though this why were Confucianists, who regarded labor that produced something (like farming or crafting) over that that produced nothing. (With the exception of scholars and priests, whose works they saw as the most important).
And abyway these people Krapotkin and I are talking about didnāt even end up stopping free trade like he said, that was the Qing dynasty almost 200 years later and they left no stated reasoning for doing so.
Anyway enough seriousposting on drama, Iāve got bussy to look at.
1 JoeFalchetto 2018-05-07
Fucking dumbass Europeans creating a system that lifted 800 million Chinese out of poverty.
1 LSDawson 2018-05-07
I thought PK was supposed to be one of the reasonable ones
1 Deity_Of_Death 2018-05-07
He's gotten more unhinged, mostly because Chapo keeps accusing him of being an 'evil liberal'.