What if 9/11 wasn't an "inside job" as in hiring terrorists to do that but letting your guard down purposefully knowing that the would try to launch such an attack to capitalize on the international aftermath? đ€
Hot take: Reality is messy and sometimes bad things happen and they're completely out of anyones control.
The reason you see so many people claiming false flag anytime a tragic event happens is because of "compsenatory control" the same reason religion is so popular.
When Ted Goertzel and others measured paranoia, it was these kinds of everyday suspicions their questions were designed to assess. Doubts about peopleâs motives, distrust and defiance of authority, and the hostility and cynicism that go along with suspecting that you live in a world where people canât always be trusted are all fairly common feelings among perfectly ordinary people. Of course, some people are relatively more prone to these feelings than others. And itâs not hard to see how a relativelyâbut still only mildlyâparanoid disposition could lead to a penchant for conspiracy theories. When you suspect people, especially authorities, of being untrustworthy, youâre probably going to take âofficialâ explanations with a grain of salt. If you think most people have sinister motives then conspiracy theories can make perfect sense. Paranoia goes hand in hand with conspiracy theories, but conspiracy theories arenât exclusive to the fringe, because paranoia isnât exclusive to the fringe.
Likewise, thereâs an element of truth to the idea that conspiracy theorists tend to feel relatively alienated and powerless. But this, too, is a more universal experience than the stereotypes about Internet-dwelling loners would have us imagine. Psychologists have long understood the importance of feeling in control, and itâs not a desire exclusive to people on the fringes. We all want to believe that we understand our circumstances and are master of our own destiny. Yet the world has a nasty habit of reminding us that weâre at the mercy of randomness. From losing your job in a recession to stepping on a rusty nail, there are countless random sources of misfortune that are impossible to anticipate or control, and can change the course of your lifeâor at least screw up your dayâin an instant. We face constant challenges to our sense of control in less dramatic ways, too, in the form of shifting social alliances; discrimination; feeling left out, alienated, or unfairly disadvantaged; or just feeling that somebody has power over us.
And it is precisely when our sense of control is threatened that we are most likely to get a little paranoid. Realizing that the world is chaotic is, for most of us, deeply unsettling. The existential anxiety spurs us to find other ways to satisfy our need for order and control; when we canât be in control ourselves, weâll settle for thinking someone (or something) else is in the driverâs seat. Psychologists call this compensatory control.
We have a few options when it comes to finding compensatory control. A popular one is to believe we have a powerful ally. Religions based around the idea of a benevolent, controlling God assure believers that everything happens for a reason. Or, keeping things more down-to-earth, we can put our faith in institutions like the government. Psychological studies show that when peopleâs sense of personal control is eroded, they are more inclined to believe in an interventionist God (but not in a more hands-off deity) and to support increased governmental controls.
Another way to achieve compensatory control is to believe we have a powerful enemy. This might seem paradoxicalâwhat could be more troubling than imagining people scheming against you? But having enemies has its perks. Remember, the thing we want to avoid above all else is seeing the world as haphazard. If things happen to us because of pure chance, we have little hope of comprehending, predicting, and controlling our fate. Believing that someone somewhere is in controlâeven if they donât have your best interests at heartâis preferable to thinking that the course of your life is dictated by nothing more than chance. Unlike faceless randomness, identifiable enemies can potentially be thwarted, managed, or at the very least understood.
This isnât a conscious decision. Our brains do most of the work for us, without us necessarily even realizing why we feel anxious to begin with. Roderick Kramer, another social scientist specializing in paranoia, describes how threats to our sense of control spur our brain into action. We become hypervigilant, scrutinizing peopleâs behavior more carefully than usual and ruminating on the potential motives behind it, searching for clues to help restore order and understanding. Zealously gathering and dwelling on this ambiguous data makes us more likely to read sinister intent into innocuous events and to misinterpret innocent behavior as threatening. As a result, we can easily become fearful that somebody is untrustworthy or out to get us, which leads to even more heightened vigilance and rumination. Before we know it, our suspicions can run away from us, leading us to overestimate the degree to which other people or forces are in control and mean to do us harm.
A handful of recent experiments show how easy it is to set this process in motion. Psychologist Daniel Sullivan and colleagues, for instance, designed a series of experiments in which unsuspecting participants had their sense of control toyed with. In one study, the researchers asked people to rate how much control they have over things like âwhether I am exposed to a disease,â or âwhether my family members suffer or not.â A different group rated more innocuous statements, such as âI have control over how much TV I watch.â The first groupâthe ones who had been subtly reminded of uncontrollable existential threatsâwere significantly more likely to buy into a made-up conspiracy theory about a rigged election.
The reason is too many unexplained events... Mossad agents on a roof of a van high diving each other... WTC11 defying laws of physics... coincidence of âexerciseâ on the same day... cellphones working at 30K feet... passports of âterroristsâ surviving steel melting conditipins.. etc etc etc
Are you under the impression that one of the most sophisticated intelligence agencies on the planet carried out a terror attack on a massive scale on an ally, and then blew the entire op by dancing around and "high fiving each other" in a van?
Then, after all of these, these operatives from one of the most sophisticated intelligence agencies on the planet kept said van and allowed themselves to be arrested?
There likely was a few Israeli intelligence operatives in the area, but it had nothing to do with 9/11.
Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said.
But to give you an example of how dumb and gullible you are:
From this morning's New York Times: "According to industry experts, it is possible to use cell phones with varying success during the ascent and descent of commercial airline flights, although the difficulty of maintaining a signal appears to increase as planes gain altitude. Some older phones, which have stronger transmitters and operate on analog networks, can be used at a maximum altitude of 10 miles, while phones on newer digital systems can work at altitudes of 5 to 6 miles. A typical airline cruising altitude would be 35,000 feet, or about 6.6 miles."
0% relevant. And had you read anything that was linked, you would have had your answer.
But because you're an illiterate, mentally ill 9/11 truther that will believe literally anything he reads that reaffirms his pre-existing delusion, any further discussion is pointless.
I insult you because there's nothing else to do other than mock you.
Food for thought:
Thanks to this self-insulating logic, attempting to refute a conspiracy theory is like nailing jelly to a wall. Since conspiracy theories are inherently unproven, the theory is always a work in progress, able to dodge refutation by inventing new twists and turns. Each debunking can be construed as disinformation designed to throw truth seekers off the scent, while the conspiracy theoristsâ continued failure to blow the lid off the conspiracy merely testifies to the power of their enemy (and the gullibility of the masses). Conspiracy theories arenât just immune to refutationâthey thrive on it. If it looks like a conspiracy, it was a conspiracy. If it doesnât look like a conspiracy, it was definitely a conspiracy. Evidence against the conspiracy theory becomes evidence of conspiracy. Heads I win, tails you lose.
Why don't you start researching Jewish crimes to understand people who criticise Jews. Do you know there are many Jews who criticise Israel for doing 911?
Many Jews speak about them. For example, Alan Sabrosky, a Jew, claims Jews did 911.
You can see a comparison showing the NBC footage showing no plane was digitally altered to show a plane (as well as adjust the colors to make the buildings appeared white and sky blue for increased psychological impact):
The cutting charges were planted by Israeli Mossad posing as art students who rented a whole floor and got construction permits at the site, and made a temporary balcony. They even made a book about their "art" - which showed them standing next to boxes and boxes of explosives fuses in the WTC!
Mossad agents filmed the missile impacts/explosions (to add CG planes later and pass on to media) and later went up to the roof to plant radio jamming devices. They were arrested and this is documented by the FBI. There was traces of explosives in their van and they were set up filming BEFORE the attack:
Let me stress that again, the FBI arrested dancing Israelis on 911, not muslims. They refused to take lie detector tests for months, and when they did, they failed. So much of that FBI report is redacted, proof positive of guilt.
They needed to fake plane impacts because a real plane would be shredded by the WTC like cheese through a grater. That's why when the Transasia plane collided with a taxi, the wing broke off, and the taxi wasn't sliced in half at all:
According to a WTC architect in a 80s interview, the impact of a plane (300 tonnes) is nothing compared to the 13,000 tonnes of force trying to push the WTC over simply because of its enormous surface area.
Essentially the media got punked by Israel, because journalists just report what they're told. You can see another example of newscasters being fooled by a movie set into thinking it's a real plane accident. At the 7 minute mark in this video:
The larger 911 plan required the destruction of the Washington bridge and Lincoln tunnel. That would take out the fiber optic cables linked to stock market/banking, markets would have crashed and there would be martial law introduced. You can see this TV report on the other Israeli vans that were intercepted, one of them exploded:
I mean, i thought israel told their saudi puppets to do 9/11. It makes more sense and you can still blame jews without the windowless jet cruise missiles
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1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-19
What if 9/11 wasn't an "inside job" as in hiring terrorists to do that but letting your guard down purposefully knowing that the would try to launch such an attack to capitalize on the international aftermath? đ€
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
Hot take: Reality is messy and sometimes bad things happen and they're completely out of anyones control.
The reason you see so many people claiming false flag anytime a tragic event happens is because of "compsenatory control" the same reason religion is so popular.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
No.
The reason is too many unexplained events... Mossad agents on a roof of a van high diving each other... WTC11 defying laws of physics... coincidence of âexerciseâ on the same day... cellphones working at 30K feet... passports of âterroristsâ surviving steel melting conditipins.. etc etc etc
You should shill your brain sometimes.
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
Holy shit imagine being this retarded.
Lmao.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
They were detained and it was established few of them were indeed member said of Mossad. Former, of course lol
There was even a 20/20 episode dedicated to them.
You are an abysmal human being or 12 year old.
Abysmal, either way.
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
I want you to think long and hard about this.
Are you under the impression that one of the most sophisticated intelligence agencies on the planet carried out a terror attack on a massive scale on an ally, and then blew the entire op by dancing around and "high fiving each other" in a van?
Then, after all of these, these operatives from one of the most sophisticated intelligence agencies on the planet kept said van and allowed themselves to be arrested?
There likely was a few Israeli intelligence operatives in the area, but it had nothing to do with 9/11.
As the original article talked about:
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
But to give you an example of how dumb and gullible you are:
http://www.911myths.com/html/mobiles_at_altitude.html
Cell phones can and do work at high altitudes.
1 Bot_Metric 2018-05-19
35000.0 feet = 10668.0 metres.
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1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
Do you acknowledge 20/20 episode in which these guys were profile and in which a few were identified as "former" members of Moss's ?
Simple yes or no?
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
0% relevant. And had you read anything that was linked, you would have had your answer.
But because you're an illiterate, mentally ill 9/11 truther that will believe literally anything he reads that reaffirms his pre-existing delusion, any further discussion is pointless.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
You think that more insults you throw at people, that much your argument becomes relevant?
Go watch Nickelodeon or something and stop wetting the bed.
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
I insult you because there's nothing else to do other than mock you.
Food for thought:
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
(((They))) were there because.... Hamas
1 backltrack 2018-05-19
Link to 20/20 episode or name and date?
1 LightUmbra 2018-05-19
Didn't work too well. Did it?
1 backltrack 2018-05-19
Welcome back again, buddy
1 rhyme-ocerus 2018-05-19
uhhh
i feel like you're usually a normal person, is this a troll
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-19
mmmm tip m'tinfoil
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
Tip it back further, my friend...
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-05-19
Welcome back, and remember, https://i.imgur.com/Cbb23uH.jpg
1 shallowm 2018-05-19
Why don't you start researching Jewish crimes to understand people who criticise Jews. Do you know there are many Jews who criticise Israel for doing 911?
Many Jews speak about them. For example, Alan Sabrosky, a Jew, claims Jews did 911.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0v7_O53J0k
Many 911 witness statements say it was a bomb, a missile, a drone, a jet aircraft with no windows etc.
We have raw footage showing the planes were faked. All footage from NIST shows no planes. Only Jewish owned media shows fake plane footage.
911 was a cheap magic trick - only bad magicians use CG. Want proof that CG footage was used?
A Pentagon employee crawled through the hole and saw no evidence of a plane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy9hjB3DGk
Major General Stubblebine confirms that the wreckage at the pentagon is consistent with a missile and not a plane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1ql4TfCZw
This WTC witness insists it was a bomb, no plane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1-BCeNcm0
These firemen said they counted 3 explosions. The Police/FBI are reported to have attributed this to vans with explosives in the WTC basement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxkcBmZfK0
You can also see raw footage (ie. not altered to show a CG plane) that shows the missile impacting the WTC (no plane):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wF74zTLjNg
You can see a comparison showing the NBC footage showing no plane was digitally altered to show a plane (as well as adjust the colors to make the buildings appeared white and sky blue for increased psychological impact):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPKq2K2dh6k
The altered footage in some cases is obviously fake, for example tiling smoke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzfKRe0gbc
But what wasn't CG was the explosions and the plane cutout shape they created. You can see those small explosions here (6 minute mark):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT1z90BB8E4&feature=endscreen&NR=1
The cutting charges were planted by Israeli Mossad posing as art students who rented a whole floor and got construction permits at the site, and made a temporary balcony. They even made a book about their "art" - which showed them standing next to boxes and boxes of explosives fuses in the WTC!
Mossad agents filmed the missile impacts/explosions (to add CG planes later and pass on to media) and later went up to the roof to plant radio jamming devices. They were arrested and this is documented by the FBI. There was traces of explosives in their van and they were set up filming BEFORE the attack:
Let me stress that again, the FBI arrested dancing Israelis on 911, not muslims. They refused to take lie detector tests for months, and when they did, they failed. So much of that FBI report is redacted, proof positive of guilt.
They needed to fake plane impacts because a real plane would be shredded by the WTC like cheese through a grater. That's why when the Transasia plane collided with a taxi, the wing broke off, and the taxi wasn't sliced in half at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ29Zr7wWnw
According to a WTC architect in a 80s interview, the impact of a plane (300 tonnes) is nothing compared to the 13,000 tonnes of force trying to push the WTC over simply because of its enormous surface area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15GbdVaV-Q
WTC project management engineer atttests the buildings could survive multiple plane impacts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fQlC2AIWrY
The WTC designers did a study for 600mph-1 impact which showed the towers would easily withstand the 911 attack.
Someone planted an engine (though wrong make) to further the plane deception:
/r/conspiracy/comments/34o4y0/911_engine_that_shot_out_of_the_south_tower_was/
Essentially the media got punked by Israel, because journalists just report what they're told. You can see another example of newscasters being fooled by a movie set into thinking it's a real plane accident. At the 7 minute mark in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wozTHxykDwQ
The larger 911 plan required the destruction of the Washington bridge and Lincoln tunnel. That would take out the fiber optic cables linked to stock market/banking, markets would have crashed and there would be martial law introduced. You can see this TV report on the other Israeli vans that were intercepted, one of them exploded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmpWe2Rhi_I
Israeli companies moved out of the building months before the attack. Israelis in America were warned in advance through an Israeli messaging service:
Hundreds of Israelis were flown out of America, despite a flight ban, to avoid them being arrested by the FBI, including the "art students":
Israel is the almost only country that benefited from the September 11 th attacks. In the words of Netanyahu, "it's good for Israel".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUbTe50UUgM
1 backltrack 2018-05-19
I mean, i thought israel told their saudi puppets to do 9/11. It makes more sense and you can still blame jews without the windowless jet cruise missiles
1 pizzashill 2018-05-19
I will not read a single thing you just linked. I do not engage 9/11 truthers, they are too mentally ill.
1 shallowm 2018-05-19
it's just pasta fam
1 newcomer_ts 2018-05-19
That's probably the most plausible of all theories.
Especially the coincidental exercise scheduled on the same day.
All three were in on it - Americans, Saudis and Israelis. No other nationals were arrested on that day but Saudis and Israelis.
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1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-05-19
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