Tbh I think sometimes conservatives have a point about the liberal agenda. It's not (((conspiracy))) but some media are definitely trying to make being a pussy into a cool thing.
The alt-right contends that a liberal belief in “multiculturalism,” uttered as a slur, is undermining the foundations of civilization. They’re delusional. Liberals don’t believe in multiculturalism at all. In its purest form, liberal ideology only recognizes two types of people: liberals, and the tragically misguided—who, if not for their brainwashing, would listen to hold music and take Zoloft like any sensible person. Oh sure, you can consume your culture. Dress how you will, eat your ethnic food and celebrate your ethnic holidays (how exotic!), place your religion on the mantlepiece, complain about white people on any number of white-people-owned forums and newspapers. Be as cultural as you want, as long as you choose cash or credit and don’t contradict the superculture.
Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black “underclass” they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black- style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers “responsible,” they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn’t care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a “responsible” parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.
I didn't say it's not satire. Something being in a humor section doesn't make it satire. Satire is a subcategory of humor. I guess some people think it's okay to call all humor satire, but it bugs me.
You'd literally have to be retarded to not realize this is satire. I suffer from inappropriate social interaction, poor eye contact, compulsive behaviour, impulsivity, repetitive movements, self-harm, or persistent repetition of words or actions, and even I know that this was too on the nose
i understand completely that its the unhinged rants of a feminist, im saying theyre pretending its jokey because its still the only socially acceptable way to spew hate
still pretty easy to point and laugh, im saying dont be all weird and deny it
Right but this is the lazy Jon Stewart defence, as if half of the dumb shit audience doesn't actually think some of the things that are being joked about and take it as a confirmation.
So we you're saying is that not only are liberals all about turning everything into a pansy fruit fest, they're also incapable of properly categorizating things?
I think it's supposed to be satire where it starts out as believable and then is supposed to get progressively more absurd? Like it starts out as "that's a weird opinion" and then gradually gets more and more specific and stupid like "strictly following traffic laws in GTA"
Any rational person shouldn't need to do that, but it's reddit so some people literally can't imagine a left leaning publication making fun of the far left.
You're being glib. Or trite. I don't know what either of those words mean.
Its labelled 'humor' but it still makes no sense. For The New Yorker to poke fun at beta males would mean The New Yorker is self-deprecating, and this is not a common theme. As yet I have not seen evidence that The New Yorker knows it has over-reached, and therefore needs to be reigned in through humor. If that is indeed what is going on, this seems a big deal to me. It represents something new.
1.) the New Yorker is known for being “posh,” not “hip.” it’s the OTHER category of weak liberal snobs.
2.) yes, they’re commonly self-deprecating. fucking woody allen wrote for the new yorker, and most of his and steve martin’s submissions were making fun of the same types.
I know this article is satire, but ss 'toxic' masculinity really what's killing society at the moment? Most young men don't have the nerves to approach woman in public, I doubt they're 'over masculine'
It was sarcasm. He was implying that in fact men commit more crimes because they are biologically inclined to (which is obvious to anybody who isn't a retard, so not to feminists).
Toxic masculinity as a concept has to do with social expectations of men rather than the reality.
Incels, for example, happen because they feel they're socially expected to have sex with women to become Men, but women have all banded together to render them losers who haven't had sex. It's a form of toxic masculinity because their delusions come from frustration with a perceived expectation, especially because they're often mocked over it.
They're a pretty extreme example, but that's kinda the gist of what people mean about toxic masculinity. It gets blamed for killing society mostly because it gets correlated with anti-women movements, mass shootings, etc.
Dude today was squatting next to me, lost his lift and instead of dumping it forward like a man, he tips the weights off the ends of the bars, sending them crashing to the ground and then rolling everywhere like 20kg ankle seeking missiles.
I laid into his ass over it, but on the plus side the wussy bitch couldn't even do two plates, so thankfully the mess was contained.
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1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-05-26
Tbh I think sometimes conservatives have a point about the liberal agenda. It's not (((conspiracy))) but some media are definitely trying to make being a pussy into a cool thing.
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-26
The alt-right contends that a liberal belief in “multiculturalism,” uttered as a slur, is undermining the foundations of civilization. They’re delusional. Liberals don’t believe in multiculturalism at all. In its purest form, liberal ideology only recognizes two types of people: liberals, and the tragically misguided—who, if not for their brainwashing, would listen to hold music and take Zoloft like any sensible person. Oh sure, you can consume your culture. Dress how you will, eat your ethnic food and celebrate your ethnic holidays (how exotic!), place your religion on the mantlepiece, complain about white people on any number of white-people-owned forums and newspapers. Be as cultural as you want, as long as you choose cash or credit and don’t contradict the superculture.
1 cincilator 2018-05-26
Shame on you for not providing a source for that copypasta
https://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/159702160399/the-subprime-directive
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-26
sourcing pasta? what kind of nerd do you take me for?
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
Book nerd.
1 siskonaut 2018-05-26
Hey look it's dollar store Alone.
1 modsarethebest 2018-05-26
wtf happened to TLP, that stuff was awesome
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
yeah man a billion africans definitely improves a country
1 cvetley 2018-05-26
ted was right
1 freet0 2018-05-26
This is in the humor section
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-26
/r/drama users reaing things?
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
That doesn't mean it's satire.
1 n4rkki 2018-05-26
It literally has a satire tag
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
I didn't say it's not satire. Something being in a humor section doesn't make it satire. Satire is a subcategory of humor. I guess some people think it's okay to call all humor satire, but it bugs me.
1 Standard12 2018-05-26
Yeah but no one in this thread has said "satire" but you.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
It's the implication. Don't get butthurt, we both know what that comment means
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-26
Here's the thing.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
No. This is the thing.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-26
It's OK to just admit that you were wrong, you know?
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
Bout what? Are you saying all humor is satire? I'm not wrong about that.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-26
fyi
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
I'm a retard! But am I retarded? Those are two different things.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
watch out you accidentally made feminism look bad here comes the faggot brigade to chide you
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-05-26
Accidentally? Fam all I need to do is point a feminist out in a crowd to make them look bad 🤣🤣🤣
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
people pretend their stupid thoughts are satire because it takes less conviction
1 captainktainer 2018-05-26
If only your mother had treated your dingo daddy's sperm as something other than satire, we wouldn't have to deal with your posting.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
imagine coming up with this in your head and then deciding to actually follow through with posting it LOL
doesnt even make sense you dumb faggot
also why are like half of your posts crying about racism in low effort tumblr meme subs
1 captainktainer 2018-05-26
Wow, rude.
1 loperetti 2018-05-26
You'd literally have to be retarded to not realize this is satire. I suffer from inappropriate social interaction, poor eye contact, compulsive behaviour, impulsivity, repetitive movements, self-harm, or persistent repetition of words or actions, and even I know that this was too on the nose
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
its framed as jokey but it presents the idea of toxic masculinity as a real thing because its written by a feminist
ie exactly what i said
1 loperetti 2018-05-26
Nah you're retarded, if its is making fun of anyone, its making fun of the people you hate.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
lol its literally in the new yorker, theyre not anti sjw
its the same as how really bitter but insecure women will do "ironic misandry"
like theyre really that bitter and legit believe all that stuff but the satire label makes it more palatable
i feel like youre underestimating how dumb and crazy sjws are
1 brianpv 2018-05-26
You need to take a look in the mirror friendo.
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-26
Imagine getting triggered by the Daily Shouts section of The New Yorker
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
lol what
i understand completely that its the unhinged rants of a feminist, im saying theyre pretending its jokey because its still the only socially acceptable way to spew hate
still pretty easy to point and laugh, im saying dont be all weird and deny it
1 ClassicInstruction 2018-05-26
Right but this is the lazy Jon Stewart defence, as if half of the dumb shit audience doesn't actually think some of the things that are being joked about and take it as a confirmation.
1 SilverMars 2018-05-26
Can't blame the New Yorker for having a dumb audience
1 jubbergun 2018-05-26
So we you're saying is that not only are liberals all about turning everything into a pansy fruit fest, they're also incapable of properly categorizating things?
1 SJCards 2018-05-26
I'm going to ping /u/the_reason_trump_won regardless, so got'em.
1 Selfawarenesshere 2018-05-26
there's humour
"haha men suck, why aren't men like women or smth"
And humour
"fuck guys this shit is retarded as all hell, thank god no one takes these people seriously"
Both technically circlejerks but there is a difference. I wouldn't put money on it being the latter either.
1 rfb4e 2018-05-26
Satire is definitely humorous....
1 CherryKirsche 2018-05-26
Those are meant as satire.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-26
Understanding humor is for gays. Real men only laugh at their foes driven before them and lamentations of their women.
1 funkenstein_1 2018-05-26
That is good!
1 pm_me_sphynxes 2018-05-26
this but unironically
1 zergling_Lester 2018-05-26
Smdh male fragility. Do you also put on rubber gloves when peeing, to avoid touching male penis? Many manly men do such things!
1 ABigBigThug 2018-05-26
"I'm pretty confident I know the problem with society" - person unable to grasp obvious satire
1 PurpleIcy 2018-05-26
You are what you eat.
That's why in ideal world everyone must be an asshole.
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-05-26
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1 the_pitizen 2018-05-26
Well the (((conspiracy))) stuff is more like the alt-right's thing. )))conspiracy((( a la Alex Jones is the conservative version.
1 Gnarwhalrus 2018-05-26
1 rivers_of_belief 2018-05-26
Is this satire or not
1 TothB 2018-05-26
I think it's supposed to be satire where it starts out as believable and then is supposed to get progressively more absurd? Like it starts out as "that's a weird opinion" and then gradually gets more and more specific and stupid like "strictly following traffic laws in GTA"
1 Osterion 2018-05-26
Elite lib publications consistently full of self depreciation.
1 SamWhite 2018-05-26
self-deprecation you illiterate fuck.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-26
look at the damn URL next time
1 PlvGdm 2018-05-26
Or the tags at the bottom of the article.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-05-26
like anyone got that far
1 rhyme-ocerus 2018-05-26
Any rational person shouldn't need to do that, but it's reddit so some people literally can't imagine a left leaning publication making fun of the far left.
1 rivers_of_belief 2018-05-26
You're being glib. Or trite. I don't know what either of those words mean.
Its labelled 'humor' but it still makes no sense. For The New Yorker to poke fun at beta males would mean The New Yorker is self-deprecating, and this is not a common theme. As yet I have not seen evidence that The New Yorker knows it has over-reached, and therefore needs to be reigned in through humor. If that is indeed what is going on, this seems a big deal to me. It represents something new.
1 Eric_Style 2018-05-26
Wow I've never seen this argument with so many extra word before
1 rivers_of_belief 2018-05-26
Really. You often see the argument "example news media has an agenda, then later modifies the scope of that agenda through the use of satire".
Because that seems pretty specific
1 Eric_Style 2018-05-26
Calm down, love. I was taking a new meme for a spin
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-26
1.) the New Yorker is known for being “posh,” not “hip.” it’s the OTHER category of weak liberal snobs.
2.) yes, they’re commonly self-deprecating. fucking woody allen wrote for the new yorker, and most of his and steve martin’s submissions were making fun of the same types.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-05-26
Is it satire if people at /r/menslib unironically believe 95% of the panels?
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-26
yes, that just makes it on-the-nose
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-05-26
All modern satire exists in an enigma of
n*ironic irony
within which it can adopt whatever tone the reader wants.1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-05-26
it’s not satire
a casual read of any New Yorker issue demonstrates it’s 100% in message with their editorial viewpoint
1 aef823 2018-05-26
If this is meant to be funny, then I don't get the references.
Do sports bars even serve white wine?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-26
It's satire. The scenarios are supposed to be absurd.
1 AliasUndercover 2018-05-26
Satire should be funny, though.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-26
The article itself may not be funny, but the fact that it's triggering the sex of peace even though it's obvious satire is hilarious 😂
1 Mabans 2018-05-26
The only reason it's triggerin' is because it has to hit a bit too close to home.
1 ColonialSoldier 2018-05-26
It's The New Yorker
1 nomad1c 2018-05-26
i'm gonna invoke poe's law here. some of them i can genuinely see people agreeing with
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-26
If it's the first few, then that's literally the point. It draws you in with examples that are semi-reasonable before becoming increasingly absurd.
1 mcslibbin 2018-05-26
I love that this has also been posted to /r/mensrights and /r/jordanpeterson and they don't get that it's satire either.
1 westofthetracks 2018-05-26
lmao imagine being an mra in 2018 😂😂😂😂😂
1 siskonaut 2018-05-26
I used to be an mra until the local jews finally returned my foreskin to me.
1 XakeMarte 2018-05-26
Jews giving a tip? Wew lad
1 Anarcho_Autism 2018-05-26
That was good.
1 PurpleIcy 2018-05-26
Was always worse than feminism, might wanna replace with "in current year", so even if some autist reads this in next 5 years, they still can relate.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
imagine being a feminist ever
1 cheeZetoastee 2018-05-26
Imagine not thinking both sides are stupid.
1 captainpriapism 2018-05-26
i didnt say otherwise i just know above poster is a feminist
also mra stuff is just victim feminism for men
1 LedZeppelin1602 2018-05-26
Well the issues weren't resolved in 2017 so...
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-05-26
Someone unironically posted this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/8m6dem
Gee guys, I wonder why you're the laughing stock of the internet.
1 PurpleIcy 2018-05-26
Wait, I'm not banned on that sub yet? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
1 funkenstein_1 2018-05-26
If that's satire perhaps it should actually be satirical is some respect. It's an open meme that's too weak to qualify as actual satire.
1 mcslibbin 2018-05-26
It depends on the reader having a shared ethos with the writer to some degree.
It is satirical in its hyperbolic-
You know what, I'm not going to explain it.
1 -Mopsus- 2018-05-26
The r/mensrights post is really bad.
1 grungebot5000 2018-05-26
kind of bizarre, frankly
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-05-26
The dude you were arguing with in the men's rights sub was literally retarded. TYFYS
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-05-26
New Yorker condensed the r/menslib essentials into a tidy listicle, now that sub can be locked for good.
1 znaXTdWhGV 2018-05-26
soy cucks are not men
1 SensitiveArtist69 2018-05-26
ahh Kurt Vonnegut. The nonintellectuals intellectual
1 CherryKirsche 2018-05-26
And so it goes
1 Little_African_Child 2018-05-26
Katzenstein
1 HyperIceCube 2018-05-26
I know this article is satire, but ss 'toxic' masculinity really what's killing society at the moment? Most young men don't have the nerves to approach woman in public, I doubt they're 'over masculine'
1 the-chinese 2018-05-26
A toxic lack of masculinity?
1 the_pitizen 2018-05-26
yes
1 Ed_BotteredToast 2018-05-26
Yes, men commit 89% of murders.
1 HyperIceCube 2018-05-26
Yeah cause men commit crimes to prove their manhood and not because men are biologically more inclined to preform violence than women. Be gone thot.
1 Ed_BotteredToast 2018-05-26
Masculinity is toxic.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-26
aka literally toxic masculinity lol.
1 imstartingtogetangry 2018-05-26
It was sarcasm. He was implying that in fact men commit more crimes because they are biologically inclined to (which is obvious to anybody who isn't a retard, so not to feminists).
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-05-26
Edbot wasn't implying that it's due to biology though; he was then just going "but what about feminists?!".
1 Forgetaboutthelonely 2018-05-26
and black people commit a disproportionate level of violent crime.
I guess toxic blackness is a thing too?
1 Ed_BotteredToast 2018-05-26
White men commit more crime than black women.
Men are the problem.
1 BumsYourDad 2018-05-26
More specifically though just men called Dave. Or maybe Todd, cos Todd's a shit name.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-05-26
You keep hiding your seriousposting behind shitty memes and fake attempts ‘dae radical centrism lolol’ but it’s really kinda pathetic
1 Ed_BotteredToast 2018-05-26
I am not /u/Ed_ButteredToast you idiot. I am a way bigger retard.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-05-26
Sorry between him and his alts it’s hard to tell
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-05-26
I don't know...
1 totalrandomperson 2018-05-26
I mean, you are pretty up there but ...
1 roguej2 2018-05-26
Yes, actually. Chris Rock explained this before
1 Fletch71011 2018-05-26
Testosterone is a hell of a drug.
1 LedZeppelin1602 2018-05-26
And are majority victims of murders too
1 cvetley 2018-05-26
masculinity, success, power, ambition, etc. have to be gotten rid of to create the ideal society
1 Karlore473 2018-05-26
that's why it's satire. do people on an obscure meta ironic internet subreddit really need it explained?
1 templesthataum 2018-05-26
There's "toxic masculinity" and then there are bitch-made men who use violence and self-loathing to solve everything.
1 Roegadyn 2018-05-26
Toxic masculinity as a concept has to do with social expectations of men rather than the reality.
Incels, for example, happen because they feel they're socially expected to have sex with women to become Men, but women have all banded together to render them losers who haven't had sex. It's a form of toxic masculinity because their delusions come from frustration with a perceived expectation, especially because they're often mocked over it.
They're a pretty extreme example, but that's kinda the gist of what people mean about toxic masculinity. It gets blamed for killing society mostly because it gets correlated with anti-women movements, mass shootings, etc.
1 Minimum_T-Giraff 2018-05-26
How dare they mock /r/MensLib ?
1 BillableUO 2018-05-26
Post this to menslib
1 NeVeRwAnTeDtObEhErE_ 2018-05-26
That's in the humor section?!? It's meant to be funny! jfc
1 radical_conundrum 2018-05-26
Even though I know it's satire, The thing that still trigger me is the GTA part. FFFUuuck you New Yorker
1 EOWNERDEAD 2018-05-26
Oh yeah, that's a rather clever jab at interoffice politics.
1 ColonialSoldier 2018-05-26
I wouldn't be so apathetic if I wasn't so lethargic
1 MooseHeckler 2018-05-26
Le cuck soy bois.
1 YameteOniichanItai 2018-05-26
The only kind of toxic masculinity that's actually a thing is not re-racking your weights.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-05-26
Dude today was squatting next to me, lost his lift and instead of dumping it forward like a man, he tips the weights off the ends of the bars, sending them crashing to the ground and then rolling everywhere like 20kg ankle seeking missiles.
I laid into his ass over it, but on the plus side the wussy bitch couldn't even do two plates, so thankfully the mess was contained.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-05-26
Help the little lady out next time
1 GoblinThief 2018-05-26
I invite you all to convert to Islam, we don't have this degeneracy.
1 telandrias 2018-05-26
It's funny because men are always toxic
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-05-26
>He does not have a Twitter account.
Shouldn't he be bravely supporting the Tweeps of Color?
1 ason 2018-05-26
Written by David Adam (((Katzenstein)))
1 Chicup 2018-05-26
(((Adam Katzenstein)))
1 Selfawarenesshere 2018-05-26
when did the newyorker become the onion?
Also if he's buying white wine not red you better believe he's a degenerate rapist
1 danklord9938437343 2018-05-26
Kurt Vonnegut was a humanist faggot
1 420__points 2018-05-26
Half serious
1 ffbtaw 2018-05-26
Didn't read the article. Is it 'everything he does that benefits you is nontoxic masculinity'.
1 Beaton_D_Whitewomen 2018-05-26
yea this shit is tryin to be funny not serious. anyone can see that
1 orangetato 2018-05-26
I get that this is supposed to be a humorous article but I think it's funny not in the way the author intended
1 Gtyyler 2018-05-26
This is the only joke that works.