Jury clears deputy who shot an armed black man in the head awarding the dead man's family only $4 in damages. Straw-men explode like piñatas all over this r/news thread as people who didn't read the article shout at each other.

128  2018-06-01 by mohkohnsepicgun

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Only in America can police shoot you under loud music complaint.

It was Drake so I can sympathize partially but still, killing a man over loud music?

Come to think of it, my neighbour cuts grass after 3pm but I live in that cuckdom of Canada so, looks like I'll have to invest in noise cancelling equipment.

Not only was he shot over 4 dollars, they shot through a closed fucking garage door. You can see the bullet holes in the fucking door.

A guy was sitting in his own fucking garage listening to music and was then literally shot through the fucking door by police.

I'm getting sick of this and I'm getting sick of the apes that come out of the woodwork to defend this trash.

Yeah but who's to say if that garage door wasn't unarmed this whole thing might have been avoided.

Garage door was white.

Oh OK my garage door is black, so I get it.

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a garage door is a good guy with a garage door

"After Newman knocked on the doors, the garage door opened revealing Hill within the comfort of his own garage and home," the lawsuit alleged. "Upon information and belief, Deputy Lopez indicated loudly that Hill had a gun and then the garage door closed. Despite the door being closed, Newman fired his handgun approximately four times and killed Hill."

[x] Doubt

The cops came to the garage where loud noises were playing, it opened and showed the guy had a gun, and then they waited for it to close back up again before firing randomly in there and somehow managing to hit his head? What a weird story. The whole bit about the garage door opening and then closing seems like something the cops concocted after the fact when they realized he was carrying.

Also that tidbit

An unloaded gun was later found in Hill's back pocket.

Reminds me of a joke I once heard...

He just had a gun hanging out of his back pocket? Unloaded? Like why is anyone carrying around an unloaded gun? Some people say you shouldn't put a round in a gun until you're ready to aim for safety reasons, but if he's some hood thug carrying around a gun without a holster I doubt he's a stickler for gun safety. And one of the officers had eyes good enough to see it apparently, before they had finished calmly waiting for the garage door to close.

I don't think you got my joke reference...

Alright, Johnson. Sprinkle some unloaded gun in his back pocket and we're done here!

Like even if he had a gun, there's nothing wrong with that. Tons of people walk around their own home with a firearm. Like they were called on a fucking loud music complaint and decided to roll up like they were in a war zone.

Using this absurd logic, they have free reign to just shoot anyone in the comfort of their own home simply for legally owning a gun and carrying it.

Tons of people walk around their own home with a firearm.

gringos lol

Land of the free juan

I mean, can you blame them after reading this shit?

Police unions make these guys impervious

The unions aren't the reason they're next to automatically acquitted from any criminal charges.

I gotta agree with pizzashill over here. The whole ordeal is very fishy. If we let this one slide, next would be the cops doing drive-by shooting at neighborhoods.

If they had the time to get the garage door to close, it is likely not a threat.

next would be the cops doing drive-by shooting at neighborhoods

My memory and knowledge on that matter is pretty shit but isn't that what happened to the Black Panthers Party?

I know nothing about the BPP. From a quick Google search, it seems like there is a story like that before. Couldn't find a better source than pro-BPP websites, though.

How hard would it have been for them to ask him to set his gun down while he was talking to them?

Even if he had a gun, there's nothing wrong with that. Tons of people walk around their own home with a firearm. they were called on a fucking loud music complaint and decided to roll up like they were in a war zone.

Fucking exactly. And I'm going to admit I was totally wrong about something. All the articles telling white women to stop calling the cops on black men for stupid shit because it was killing them were spot on. Some stupid bitch had to call the cops on a guy listening to music with fuck and nigger in the lyrics. That's some first world white woman problems.

And then, the family has to put up with the debasement of their father's life being worth $4.00 because he was drunk in his own home?

I mean he was found accountable. He was held to be 1% responsible because he shot a black guy for playing his music too loud. Which is 4c responsible. Oh wait. The black guy was unable to drive which means he had more than two beers in the last hour. So he wasn't even 4c responsible.

We do, we have like 4836274 hoops to jump thru before even taking aim at someone lol

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The fucking army? Are you serious? As somebody who was once in the US military, but got the fuck out as soon as possible, let me tell you about how truly evil and depraved the military is. During Basic Training, we were forced to this chant before shooting at the rifle range : "If they're brown, shoot them down!" At the rifle range, we fired at both adult sized targets and child sized targets. Half the targets were painted as being armed, and half the targets we were supposed to shoot at were painted as innocent civilians holding flowers. We were supposed to shoot at any target, regardless of whether it was armed or unarmed, whether it was an adult or a child. The only time in Basic Training we were allowed to watch tv was when the news showed reports of Muslim civilians being "accidentally killed" in air strikes. We were forced to scream "yes!" every time the news mentioned an innocent brown person being killed. As soon as I saw how truly evil and depraved the US military was, I GOT THE FUCK OUT. I went straight to the Drill Sergeants and told them I didn't want to be part of their right wing terrorist organization. I told them that I REFUSED to kill innocent people of color, and take part in unjustified wars of aggression. The Drill Sergeants responded by tying me up and beating my with their machine guns for ten minutes straight. They told me that I wasn't leaving and that if I ever tried to speak up against their hate and bigotry again, they would murder me. I took matters into my own hands, and jumped out the window at night while the Drill sergeants were asleep. This was the second floor, and fortunately I landed in some bushes. I ran the fuck away from the base I was at, and have not returned to this day. Every Time any American expresses admiration for the military, I fucking VOMIT. I was in for long enough to see that the US military is a white supremacist terrorist organization, just as bad as Daesh

Not sure if satire or schizo

I think it's a pasta.

Copy pasta

Check my post history, you tell me. I know the truth

He's actually a Navy Seal with 300 confirmed kills.

Ahhh. So schizo it is.

he got a headshot through a closed garage door? that's pretty impressive tbh

Pretty easy when you can calmly line up your shot as the garage door closes

Apes? Triggered.

I'm getting sick of this and I'm getting sick of the apes that come out of the woodwork to defend this trash.

All of this would be solved if we just put expired mayo in the garbage

Imagine pizzashill's response if it was a woman.

If niggers would lower it after someone complained about noise, maybe cops shouldn't need to even come here to begin with.

Like, I don't even understand what must be going through your head when you're such a shithead and don't even care about your surroundings, blasting (most likely shitty) music.

Oh, I know, a bullet.

be American

get shot

What a lovely timeless story! 😍

Everyone has a gun

Expects to be treated as if they didn't have a gun

They showed up at his house because of loud music. They killed him because he had a gun and was so drunk that he was belligerent and uncooperative to the point of posing a danger to deputies.

Scary thing is that you think you are making a rational argument for what is really a State sanctioned murder.

The thing is, I really am, and your argument that he was killed over loud music is complete nonsense. All he had to do was cooperate and he'd be alive today. Instead he decided to escalate the situation until the deputies didn't have any choice except to shoot.

until the deputies didn't have any choice except to shoot.

It's easy to make that choice when it's the only option.

What was the alternative? Just leave? Just be like "well we can't do anything because he has a gun and closed his garage door, so if the neighbors have a problem with this drunk armed man playing loud music all night then they should take care of it"?

Being a drunk armed man and playing loud music is not cause to get shot through the fucking head. You do realize that he wasn't fucking threatening them, right?

Right? I don't know why "just leave" is off the fucking table? They can fine him, tell the complainant she is going to have to take civil action or tell the complainant it's between the hours of 7am to 11pm and a guy has the right to listen to music in his own home for a couple of hours. Do people not know how often cops don't do anything when they respond to a call?

What? Plenty of people get drunk and play loud music in their own house. And as long as he wasn't threatening anyone with his unloaded gun, it is his right to have it.

The police couldn't have known it was unloaded, but they definitiely did know it was in his back pocket and he wasn't threatening them with it.

What was the alternative?

Call swat, knock on his door and taser him when he answered. surround his house and wait him out. I can't believe I have to say this but cops shouldn't fire blindly into peoples homes because they have a gun in their pocket and told the police to fuck off

Even tasering would be a complete overreaction to a drunk dude in his own garage with an unloaded gun in his back pocket telling them to fuck off.

I can't even imagine what must be going through your mind when you tell cops to fuck off, I mean, are you retarded or something?

Oh right, a bullet, gotem.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

no ure trigggered.

Go cry somewhere else.

So you do agree that they couldn't have done anything else?

I also have only one option, to agree.

Didn't have any choice.

They shot him in the head through a closed garage door for being drunk and having an unloaded gun.

Instead he decided to escalate the situation until the deputies didn't have any choice except to shoot.

Police are trained to de-escalate.

Look at the Toronto Cop who didn't kill the incel in the Van. If he didn't shoot in that situation why the hell do these officers need to fire their weapon?

By closing the garage door he broke line of sight with the deputies. If they hadn't shot him at that moment then the only option was to get out a SWAT team, since he was drunk and running around in his home with a gun.

By closing the garage door he broke line of sight with the deputies

So the fuck what?

f they hadn't shot him at that moment then the only option was to get out a SWAT team

Yea that was totes their only option. Not like they coulda just gone in guns drawn. Also why the fuck didn't they call a swat team?

since he was drunk and running around in his home with a gun.

So...?

Its illegal to have a gun in your home while drunk now?

Why did they not call swat to throw tear gas into the house if it was such a critical situation?

Since they had no line of sight isn't that more reason not to fire? How do they know a kid didn't sneak into the garage when it closed?

By closing the garage door he broke line of sight with the deputies.

So they decided to fire blind into a suburban home with no idea if other people would go into the garage at that moment? Lmao.

If they hadn't shot him at that moment then the only option was to get out a SWAT team

How do you not think this is better than blindly firing into his garage lmao

Police are trained to de-escalate

This is only tangentially related, but I was watching the video of that streamer getting arrested yesterday and repeatedly telling the officer apprehending him "what are you doing bro, put the gun down" and thought "mfw some retarded streamer is better at de-escalating than some police officers".

All he had to do was cooperate and he'd be alive today

And so the fuck what? Last time I checked telling the cops to fuck off wasn't grounds for them to firing blindly into your home

until the deputies didn't have any choice except to shoot

Expect they coulda called in swat, or surrounded his house and waited him out, or just told him to turn it down and then leave.

Calling in entire swat team for a single nigger.

Or you can just dispose of worthless degenerates and move on.

Anyone with a gun and loud music should be shot in the head through a closed garage door by the police.

They killed him because he had a gun and was so drunk that he was belligerent and uncooperative to the point of posing a danger to deputies.

Imagine being such a pussy that you shoot a man for closing a door on you and say he was posing a danger to your life

Why the fuck 4 dollars?

It says that it was further reduced to $0.04 when they decided that officer was only 1% responsible. What a fucking gut punch to that family.

That's just a fucking insult. If it were my familly member I'd fucking eviscerate the judge.

Deserved

Tbh he was listening to Drake; I can support shooting him.

After it was reduced to 4c, they reduced it to 0c because the man was intoxicated to the point where he couldn't drive in his own house.

Good, next time they'll raise a faggot who doesn't tell people to fuck off once they are asked to turn the music down and won't need to get the cops called on them lmao.

Florida has no minimum standard of responsibility, so juries can make weird decisions like deciding that the defendant was 99% resonsible for their death but still award them a tiny amount of money. In most states if a the jury finds a person is mostly responsible they don't award anything.

dollar for each bullet in dead guy's body

It’s the jury’s way of saying yeah they were wrong but dude deserved it. Happened to my dad on a civil suit. Dad had to pay $1 to guy suing him for $500k.

Comparative Negligence (pure comparative negligence, in this case).

the jury ruled a dollar for the death and a dollar for each child for emotional trauma and a lack of a parent going forward. What a slap in the face

Literally awarding the family some pocket change. Way to salt the wound, Florida.

I'm not advocating this (okay maybe a little bit) but, for all the shit read about I'm a little surprised that you don't hear (more) stories about people that went and got revenge after something like this

Don't you remember 'can't corner the Dorner'?

I didn't. I do now, it's the one where they shot some random ladies because they drove in a truck that was the same model, not even the same color :'))))) Hilarious

or Micah Johnson. Shot 5 random cops, 1 turned out to be a white nationalist.

Wow. Literally. The irony.

Black guy kills cops b cause he feels cops are racist against blacks.

1 out of the 5 cops was indeed a through and through racist.

That's just hilariously ironic.

Wasn't that more about him getting fucked over by the LAPD as an officer instead of a civilian enacting vigilante justice on the police?

I remember reading about some guy who went out and killed 2 random nypd cops. I think revenge campaigns happen but very few are targeted.

Generally the dindus go after those weaker than themselves

They arent going to shoot a cop in his house when his or her colleagues know where you and your family live

You'll take any opportunity to fuck a horse won't you?

There now we've both said something stupid and unrelated.

Regardless of anything else, that was a pretty funny comeback.

New snappy quote

Juries literally allow cops to get away with murder. On the other hand, people scream "muh oppression" about completely justified use of force.

Why do people always turn their brains off as soon as cops are involved?

Because we give D students authority and power worship, while the ones who are good cops we shit on. We assume 100% people who are on the police force / in the military are the most noble creatures in existence, instead of our peers who we have entrusted to protect and serve.

Americans polarizing themselves around a legitimate issue as usual. All constructive discussion about police brutality has long been drowned out by a deafening cacophony from retards looking to use the issue to virtue signal to their chosen in-group. These people don't give a shit about cops nor about justice for legitimate victims like Eric Garner, Philando Castile, or Greg Hill because it would mean betraying their side of the short bus with an implicit admission that their side isn't 100% in the right.

Well said.

Awarding 4 dollars is even more insulting than nothing

It's funny to watch the /r/news crowd be hardcore into gun control until the firearm in question is an unregistered pistol in a dindu's pocket.

Double standards

Most guns in America are unregistered.

Lol because an unloaded gun in my pocket while I'm playing illegally loud music means that I should be shot int he head through a garage door.

getting legitimately upset over a /r/drama shitpost

le I was just pretending to be retarded.

unloaded gun

Sorry but nobody knows that until you took it out and clicked the trigger once, so you can stay silent, nobody will fucking come up to you, check how many rounds you have in your magazine, whether your gun is fucking loaded and etc, then back off 10 meters off you and start firing.

You have a gun, you're a threat.

Having a gun in my back pocket while I'm in the garage is not cause to shoot me. The man was not pointing his gun at or threatening the police.

If actually bothered to read shit, the police apparently opened the garage door, talked to him, then it closed and they started shooting. The man was not threatening them.

Being drunk and having a gun is not by itself worthy or deserving of murder.

Blasting music loudly after being asked to lower it down is tho.

I'm glad they are taking serious issues seriously, don't really care if it was a black guy or not, mayos should be shot if they do shit like this too.

Tbh you're right; Anyone listening to Drake should be shot.

Ed, did you forget you were supposed to be an Islamabad based Paki on this account?

You can be pro gun-control and anti-murder.

Gun control doesn't mean you round up gun owners and kill them all.

How is gun control even relevant

This is like right wing virtue signaling

I can think this guy had no business owning a gun at the same time as thinking the cops shouldn't have murdered him for closing a garage door.

Death 2 drake listeners

Bit of a slap in the face here, no? I mean, I'd rather the jury award them nothing, than to award them four bucks for the death of their father. It's like saying, "Fuck you. He deserved what he got".

Awarding a small amount in a lawsuit is usually a way to say the plaintiff was right, but the defendant can’t cough up the money.

usually, but the police force has insurance for these exact situations as does the city. This is a slap in the face to the kids who lost a father.

That's a bullshit justification, if courts will hand down multi million dollar judgements to defendants who will never be able to pay them over fucking WoW private servers they can certainly justify doing it for murder.

Sounds like the jury basically voted that they approve of the cops murdering this dude.

So, the jury agreed with the cops? That verdict was brutal! I feel bad for the lawyer; he was expecting a sweet settlement.

Can someone explain to me why people in this thread are crying 'aaaa they're killing all the black people' 'they're killing us all', when this happens once in a while

As a smol 👌🏿 black child 👶🏿 this testifies me😱. I always wear headphones 🎧 to protect 🛡my ears 👂🏿from creepy crawlies 🐛 but I never thought I need them to protect 🔫 my self from cops👮🏼.

Oh gee, how did I know before clicking that this took place in the Southeastern United States? Where I'm from we call that part of the country the "led paint chipper's club."