Well...about that...there's often an arguments that even 19 shadow writers can't help him overshadow his 2010 success......these arguments are known by even non rap/hip hop fans.
It is kinda funny how people will go out of their way to talk about Kendrick Lamar and Childish Gambino being the best things in rap today while Kanye has produced solid gold for every single one of his albums. He put 50 Cent on his ass, he put Jay-Z on his ass, he samples some really good tracks and produces some fantastic beats of his own.
If anything, Kanye has got BETTER the crazier he's got. Yeezus was great, The Life of Pablo was great and a few spins of this is really fucking dark but good. He's the best rapper in the world and knows it.
I did salvia and watched that fucking video with all the african shit in it and got super pissed off and started ranting to my roommate about one of the Kool Keith album covers
I like Kendrick Lamar and Kanye West, they're both pretty good at what they do. Kanye West was very transformative for the hip hop genre, when he started hip hop was mostly a genre of mindless dance tracks and stale edgy gangster rap (NWA was interesting when it came out, then we had a decade of cruddy imitators who just glorified the lifestyle without any of the social commentary). He opened the door to the more artistic, introspective hip hop acts we see today (like Frank Ocean and Kendrick Lamar). Graduation outselling that 50 Cent album nobody remembers marked a huge shift in the nature of the genre.
Childish Gambino, what can I say. I'm a fan of Donald Glover and obviously the visuals in the music video were great, but as a song it doens't compare to Kanye West at all.
He's the best rapper in the world and knows it.
Kanye West is the best producer in the world. He's an average MC, you can really tell on any sort of collaboration track the guest almost always totally blows him away. Kendrick Lamar is probably the best rap lyricist, and he's a great producer too with his Jazz fusion style... but damn, his vocal quality is something you really have to get used to. Frank Ocean is God.
My opinion of Kanye West the person remained exactly the same before and after he announced he was a Trump supporter... he is a massive douchebag. I'm not going to falsely claim he's not good because of that though. Likewise, Kendrick Lamar's music is not garbage that shames the Pullitzer because of a 30 second incident in one of his shows that made you mad.
I am so far from the loop in rap music. I know what some of these guys look like, but couldnt tell you which song is which now a days.
Are you saying West is ##woke? In the sense it doesnt matter if he supports literal Trump but still is talented? I remember feeling funny inside for liking Beck's tunes when we learned he was fucked in the head, but a pretty good artist regardless.
_@_/
Tbh what I listed there was pretty much the entire extent of my knowledge of rap music. The only rap albums I've listened to are from those three artists I mentioned, everything else I've heard is just singles. I linked it together in grandiose style and pretended to be knowledgable enough to develop a grand theory on the subject because of my intense narcissism, and ungodly amounts of adderall.
Are you saying West is ##woke?
West is slept. But he's a genius nonetheless. I'm not going to buy into the current political pillarization of society where people refuse to consume media from someone outside of their tribe.
Honestly, the vast majority of hip hop music is about singles, not albums, so it's probably as valid a way of consuming it as anything. I don't really know a lot of people that go out of their way to consume entire albums of artists they enjoy, outside of a few artists like Kayne, Kendrick, and J.Cole.
Kanye is nowhere near the best producer in the world. He’s not even the definitive best in hip hop, there are tons of other talented producers with more technical and musical knowledge, and more interesting experimentation, but Kanye is different cause he’s huge. He’s an influencer above all, that’s his biggest merit
I think they just operate off the assumption that Kayne is so crazy he meant literal slavery. Most likely because it makes them feel better if they assume he's just completely bugfuck crazy.
Not to the extent we see in the present day with things like the media refusing to acknowledge the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal alien
What the “listen to Kanye for music not politics” takes miss is that America is facing a crisis. If we want to keep moving forward, we can’t have celebs & companies with huge platforms supporting this dangerous President’s agenda. Some things are bigger than music, football, etc.
yes saying mean words and deporting people isn’t good but neither is bombing Muslims and killing our own citizens trump is like -1 on the list of problems he literally doesn’t matter
You know the funniest thing? Twitter is also "woke" if you change languages. You have the same uncultured idiots praising and hating Kanye West on portuguese. I didn't knew the mix of cultures would lead to the homogenization of opinions.
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1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-01
Good at making music?
What palent am I on...
1 Accardi_Don 2018-06-01
A planet where hip hop is recognized as the highest art form you racist!
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-01
Oh, yes, I forgot… the art form where philosophical review of your personal morals and ethics is referred to as “dis track”.
1 Accardi_Don 2018-06-01
You're using big words man, Imma take them as a dis
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
Ok professor Memerson
1 Capital_Rope 2018-06-01
Kanye is one of the greats whether you like it or not.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-01
Entertain me... on that planet, who else is one of the greats?
1 Capital_Rope 2018-06-01
Hell if I know. I don't listen to darkie music outside of Kanye.
1 Shalabadoo 2018-06-01
literally no one else
1 shitpersonality 2018-06-01
Alexander
1 DramzLol 2018-06-01
I too enjoy nothing but basic bitch 4:4 and pop intervals only in D major or similar
ONE OF THE GREATS
fuck off
1 Capital_Rope 2018-06-01
mad
1 DramzLol 2018-06-01
Pretty triggered whenever I see this memelord tbqh yes
1 DerpHerp 2018-06-01
dead @ thinking using more time signatures makes music better, bet you are a tool fan
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
unironically his new album is his worst, easily
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-06-01
Unironically your opinions are shit and you should KYS
1 YameteOniichanItai 2018-06-01
I keep saying it, it's all been downhill since the Americans killed Webern on a beautiful late autumn day back in 1945.
1 SJCards 2018-06-01
Maybe divorce artist from political considerations.
1 EmotionalInjury 2018-06-01
we'd have to throw out the last entire 5 years of pop culture
1 vtesterlwg 2018-06-01
this is bad tho
1 YameteOniichanItai 2018-06-01
Exactly, that's why I can still call Hitler's prose beautiful without condoning his acts.
1 Matthew94 2018-06-01
Or enjoy Wagner
1 YameteOniichanItai 2018-06-01
yeah but I thought we were talking about great artists
jk_Wagner's_the_best
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-06-01
In $CURRENT_YEAR? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-01
Like it's good for drama, but it exhausting about how everything has to relate back to politics now.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 Accardi_Don 2018-06-01
Sheeeeeiiit man that track is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He doesn't even have to use real words and that beat is the very definition of earworm
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
https://i.imgur.com/aks7kxV.png
1 ComedicSans 2018-06-01
Nobody doubted his ability as a producer though.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-06-01
We’re all doubting Ed’s ability to function even within the parameters of this sub
1 DistortedLines 2018-06-01
BARS
1 cultish_alibi 2018-06-01
https://youtu.be/o1zWM7FgcGA?t=98 ed ur racist
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
Did you know that 72% of basketball Americans are born to single mothers, 66% of which has no father involvement at all
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-01
that was an awesome track and you know it
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHDv_7GHNBU
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fbyfDbi-MI
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
Ed bb 😘you of all people should appreciate the art of shitposting at that high a level
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
im sorry daddy!
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
Unconditional love means you never have to apologize😍😍
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-01
thank you daddy!
1 d-amazo 2018-06-01
"I hate being bi-polar it's awesome"
that's not how bi-polar disorder works fucking moron
1 the_psycho_watch 2018-06-01
ftfy. Let's not spreak fake news here
1 thats-why-i 2018-06-01
I think its kinda cute
1 Ultimatex 2018-06-01
Yes it is fucking moron
1 Plexipus 2018-06-01
Sounds like something you'd see on a Hot Topic t-shirt ten years ago
1 Shalabadoo 2018-06-01
DAMN YOU PROBLEMATIC KANYE
1 Accardi_Don 2018-06-01
I MISS THE OLD KANYE. WOKE KANYE. SAID BUSH DIDNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PPL KANYE
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-01
Well...about that...there's often an arguments that even 19 shadow writers can't help him overshadow his 2010 success......these arguments are known by even non rap/hip hop fans.
1 shanewater 2018-06-01
It is kinda funny how people will go out of their way to talk about Kendrick Lamar and Childish Gambino being the best things in rap today while Kanye has produced solid gold for every single one of his albums. He put 50 Cent on his ass, he put Jay-Z on his ass, he samples some really good tracks and produces some fantastic beats of his own.
If anything, Kanye has got BETTER the crazier he's got. Yeezus was great, The Life of Pablo was great and a few spins of this is really fucking dark but good. He's the best rapper in the world and knows it.
1 RedditsAnti-American 2018-06-01
Word
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
Not to mention the yacoubian devil herself TayTay 🐍🐍🐍
1 SWIMsfriend 2018-06-01
Pretty much yeah, like does anyone really think anyone would know those French robots without Kanye?
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
808s and heartbreak was bullshit and you're a fake fan
uhhh ok
white people smh
1 shanewater 2018-06-01
I mean it's a surprisingly good breakup album but I don't suppose people like you are capable of being loved, let alone breaking up with someone.
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
yeah i just know you're bumpin "Love Lockdown" when your girl decides she's had enough
the fuck outta here
1 watermark02 2018-06-01
808s and Heartbreaks was a solid album, people just hated on it at the time because of autotune oversaturation.
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
Yes, and after releasing genre defining work it was sad to see Knaye follow a trendy artistic convention.
1 Zachums 2018-06-01
did you cry
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
I did salvia and watched that fucking video with all the african shit in it and got super pissed off and started ranting to my roommate about one of the Kool Keith album covers
and also cried, yes
1 Zachums 2018-06-01
Sounds rough, sorry I made that joke. Clearly I don't know your trials and tribulations.
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
dont lose the lesson
1 shallowm 2018-06-01
😞😢
1 CreepyButtPirate 2018-06-01
Kys for dissing a album that literally shaped so much of hip-hop now. You're an idiot
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
whats your favorite hip hop album
1 FedoraWearingNegus 2018-06-01
808s and TLOP are his two best albums though
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-01
wat is wrong with people
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
smfh
1 totalrandomperson 2018-06-01
Out of all the albums you can shit on, you pick 808?
1 maddestofcats 2018-06-01
This album is actually trash lol. Only the last two tracks are decent smh tbh.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-06-01
Indeed.
1 watermark02 2018-06-01
I like Kendrick Lamar and Kanye West, they're both pretty good at what they do. Kanye West was very transformative for the hip hop genre, when he started hip hop was mostly a genre of mindless dance tracks and stale edgy gangster rap (NWA was interesting when it came out, then we had a decade of cruddy imitators who just glorified the lifestyle without any of the social commentary). He opened the door to the more artistic, introspective hip hop acts we see today (like Frank Ocean and Kendrick Lamar). Graduation outselling that 50 Cent album nobody remembers marked a huge shift in the nature of the genre.
Childish Gambino, what can I say. I'm a fan of Donald Glover and obviously the visuals in the music video were great, but as a song it doens't compare to Kanye West at all.
Kanye West is the best producer in the world. He's an average MC, you can really tell on any sort of collaboration track the guest almost always totally blows him away. Kendrick Lamar is probably the best rap lyricist, and he's a great producer too with his Jazz fusion style... but damn, his vocal quality is something you really have to get used to. Frank Ocean is God.
My opinion of Kanye West the person remained exactly the same before and after he announced he was a Trump supporter... he is a massive douchebag. I'm not going to falsely claim he's not good because of that though. Likewise, Kendrick Lamar's music is not garbage that shames the Pullitzer because of a 30 second incident in one of his shows that made you mad.
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-06-01
I am so far from the loop in rap music. I know what some of these guys look like, but couldnt tell you which song is which now a days.
Are you saying West is ##woke? In the sense it doesnt matter if he supports literal Trump but still is talented? I remember feeling funny inside for liking Beck's tunes when we learned he was fucked in the head, but a pretty good artist regardless. _@_/
1 watermark02 2018-06-01
Tbh what I listed there was pretty much the entire extent of my knowledge of rap music. The only rap albums I've listened to are from those three artists I mentioned, everything else I've heard is just singles. I linked it together in grandiose style and pretended to be knowledgable enough to develop a grand theory on the subject because of my intense narcissism, and ungodly amounts of adderall.
West is slept. But he's a genius nonetheless. I'm not going to buy into the current political pillarization of society where people refuse to consume media from someone outside of their tribe.
1 imaginarycreatures 2018-06-01
Honestly, the vast majority of hip hop music is about singles, not albums, so it's probably as valid a way of consuming it as anything. I don't really know a lot of people that go out of their way to consume entire albums of artists they enjoy, outside of a few artists like Kayne, Kendrick, and J.Cole.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
Yeah that was pretty obvious
1 ComedicSans 2018-06-01
West literally raps about how he goes out of his way to make people who love him, hate him, and how he's rather be a dick than a swallower.
He's a giant troll. He's also unhinged and on pills, but there's definitely a deliberate choice to do what people don't want or expect him to do.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
Kanye is nowhere near the best producer in the world. He’s not even the definitive best in hip hop, there are tons of other talented producers with more technical and musical knowledge, and more interesting experimentation, but Kanye is different cause he’s huge. He’s an influencer above all, that’s his biggest merit
1 Matthew94 2018-06-01
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEKhAYRGFw
1 TimMemes 2018-06-01
Man you’re bugging none of his albums have topped college dropout.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
Wtf lol politics aside this new album is probably his worst. The beats aren’t even that great
1 higashiline 2018-06-01
if you refer to the production of a song as the "beat" your opinion is probably trash
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-01
Hahahahahahaha
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
Shaun king chiming in with the over compensation for his lack of melanin as usual
1 abraham_pimpin 2018-06-01
1 globalism_sucks 2018-06-01
Are these people so stupid that they think Kanye was talking about literal slavery and not mental slavery? Or are they just pretending?
1 imaginarycreatures 2018-06-01
I think they just operate off the assumption that Kayne is so crazy he meant literal slavery. Most likely because it makes them feel better if they assume he's just completely bugfuck crazy.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-01
Mostly pretending. Everything now is about cutting up and taking shit out of context and taking everything literally.
It all dates back to Trump's infamous "mexican rapists" quote.
1 shallowm 2018-06-01
Do you think people didn't twist each other's words before Trump?
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-01
Not to the extent we see in the present day with things like the media refusing to acknowledge the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal alien
1 Leftist_Degenerate 2018-06-01
What the “listen to Kanye for music not politics” takes miss is that America is facing a crisis. If we want to keep moving forward, we can’t have celebs & companies with huge platforms supporting this dangerous President’s agenda. Some things are bigger than music, football, etc.
1 vtesterlwg 2018-06-01
yes saying mean words and deporting people isn’t good but neither is bombing Muslims and killing our own citizens trump is like -1 on the list of problems he literally doesn’t matter
1 Leftist_Degenerate 2018-06-01
Bombing Muslims is a great name for a band
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-01
The Kanye West Prestige Theory
Imagine being this retarded
1 ThatLolMemer 2018-06-01
gay lol\
1 SonyXboxNintendo11 2018-06-01
You know the funniest thing? Twitter is also "woke" if you change languages. You have the same uncultured idiots praising and hating Kanye West on portuguese. I didn't knew the mix of cultures would lead to the homogenization of opinions.
1 michgot 2018-06-01
Imagine that
1 shallowm 2018-06-01
linking to the search result page for "kanye"
i know this is /r/drama but a teeny tiny bit of effort would be nice
1 Accardi_Don 2018-06-01
Let me fuck your mom's putrid cunt first and then I'll try to meet your standards you miserable excuse for an abortion.
1 potato4dawin 2018-06-01
They just got whoopity poop scooped