Okay then, would you care to elaborate How the holmodor wasn't completely stalin's fault? I'm genuinely curious how the general secretary of the Soviet Union, the leader of the nation and the communist party, wasn't completely guilty of something he deliberately ordered.
Thank you for providing sources to your side of the argument. I'll be reading them when I get home, just out of respect of being "civil" in this discussion.
Two Curious questions:
1.) How do you feel about the well documented religious and ethnic persecution within the USSR?
The soviets murdered, deported, and persecuted a diverse group of ethnicities and religions.
The union of the militant atheists persecuted Christians, Jews, Muslims, even Siberian, Uralic, and central Asian tribal religions were suppressed.
The soviets deported Muslim Tartars from Crimea, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, and the Volga region.
They persecuted the Cossacks.
They deported and persecuted Germans from the Baltic, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the Volga region.
They deported hundreds of thousands of Chechens, Ingush, Koreans, Armenians, Poles, Lithuanians, Estonians, Finns, Latvians, Romanians, Kalymyks, Turks, Balkars, Greeks, Karachays, Qarapapaqs, Yaghnobis, Armenians, and Bulgarians.
What's your take on this historically accepted fact. Ones that have been formally and legally recognized as acts of genocide, similar to the holmodor's status in Europe.
2.) How do you feel about Wehrboos justifying the Holocaust with reports and responses stating the Schutzstaffel and the NSDAP didn't have resources to provide prisoners due to allied saturated bombing campaigns and how diseases killed off thousands upon thousands of prisoners?
I'm sad, I genuinely wanted to hear his point of view. I think I may have committed murder by words. Hopefully he responds to the civil discussion he asked about.
Lol, even biggest anti socialist bullshit ever produced by (yes american authors) had less fake news amd fairy tales than anything written by Douglas Tottle.
Fun plan to the summer: Go to Ukraine and tell people that Stalin was a good boy that made an honest mistake in regards to the Holodomor, like how Maury does to the girl when the guy is not the father.
Don't need to watch out for tankies they are open and proud about being retarded unlike closeted cuck nazi bois who are afraid to show the world their intellectual girth.
If they weren't interested in Olga, they would rape Olga's grandmother, look at Olga and be like "Haha hey I'm raping your grandmother!" It was all a good joke. Then they'd shoot Olga and her grandmother and be on their merry way after their moment of jest.
Unlike the Soviets (who encouraged it), Germans had rules forbidding rape and routinely punished soldiers, even on the eastern front.
There is no evidence in the records that rape was used as a 'war strategy', that is, as a means used by the [German] military leadership to humiliate the enemy civilian population.
Unlike the Soviets (who encouraged it), Germans had rules forbidding rape and routinely punished soldiers, even on the eastern front.
Look pretty much no army in WW2 had an official rape policy. Rape occurred in the orgy of celebration after victory when poorly trained and demoralized troops are let loose with total power over the conquered populace. If the officers and leadership enforced strict discipline, even at the risk of executing their own soldiers and causing grumbling or mutiny within their troops, it did not happen. If they turned a blind eye to it because they didn't want to bother, it did. Their willingness to enforce the laws that all had against rape depended on how human they found the enemy (shoot a German soldier for the sake of a Jew?!) and how shitty and poorly trained their troops were. The Soviets had garbage quality troops, and the Germans didn't view many of their enemies as human. The Germans enforced discipline in the West, they turned a blind eye in the east.
Here's the Wikipedia article on the subject, you can read the situations if you want, there seem to be quite a few historians who disagree with your assertion that the German officers are always good little boys who kept their dogs leashed:
Rapes were allowed in practice by the German military (officially forbidden, however) in eastern and southeastern Europe, while northern and western countries were relatively spared.[79][80] In Occupied Denmark, which initially agreed to collaborate with Nazi Germany, rapes were not widespread, and German officials promised to punish them.[79] By contrast thousands of Soviet female nurses, doctors and field medics fell victim to rape when captured, and were often murdered afterwards.[18]
German soldiers used to brand the bodies of captured partisan women – and other women as well – with the words "Whore for Hitler's troops" and rape them.[81] Following their capture some German soldiers vividly bragged about committing rape and rape-homicide.[82] Susan Brownmiller argues that rape played a pivotal role in Nazi aim to conquer and destroy people they considered inferior, such as Jews, Russians, and Poles.[83] An extensive list of rapes committed by German soldiers was compiled in the so called "Molotov Note" in 1942. Brownmiller points out that Nazis used rape as a weapon of terror.[84]
Examples of mass rapes in Soviet Union committed by German soldiers include:
Smolensk: German command opened a brothel for officers in which hundreds of women and girls were driven by force, often by arms and hair.[85]
Lviv: 32 women working in a garment factory were raped and murdered by German soldiers, in a public park. A priest trying to stop the atrocity was murdered.
Lviv: Germans soldiers raped Jewish girls, who were murdered after getting pregnant.[86] It is estimated that over a million children were born to Russian women, fathered by German soldiers.[87]:56 [88]
Author Ursula Schele, estimated in the Journal "Zur Debatte um die Ausstellung Vernichtungskrieg. Verbrechen der Wehrmacht 1941-1944" that one in ten women raped by German soldiers would have become pregnant, and therefore it is probable, while not provable, that up to ten million women in the Soviet Union could have been raped by the Wehrmacht.[89]:9
Birgit Beck, in her work Rape: The Military Trials of Sexual Crimes Committed by Soldiers in the Wehrmacht, 1939–1944, describes the leniency in punishing sex crimes by German authorities in the East, at the same time pointing out heavy punishments applied in the West.[90] If a soldier who committed a rape was subsequently convicted by a court-martial, he would usually be sentenced to four years in prison[91] The German penal code was also valid for soldiers in war.[92] However, until 1944 only 5,349 soldiers of the Wehrmacht on all fronts were sentenced because of indecency offence "Sittlichkeitsvergehen" or rape "Notzucht".[93] Historian Mühlhäuser believed that sexual assault was not an exception but common, and that the actual number of rapes committed by German soldiers are without question much greater.[94]
Other sources estimate that rapes of Soviet women by the Wehrmacht range up to 10,000,000 incidents, with between 750,000 and 1,000,000 children being born as a result.[87][88][89][95]
In Soviet Russia rapes were only a concern if they undermined military discipline.[90] Since 1941, rape was theoretically punishable with the death sentence, although rapes were rarely prosecuted in practice and rapes by Germans of non-German women were not taken seriously, nor was it punishable by death, especially in the eastern European territories.[87]:288 In October 1940 the laws on rape were changed, making it a "petitioned crime" – that is a crime for which punishment had to be requested. Historian Christa Paul writes that this resulted in "a nearly complete absence of prosecution and punishment for rape".[87]:288 There were rape cases in the east where the perpetrators were sentenced if the rape was highly visible, damaging to the image of the German Army and the courts were willing to pass a condemning verdict against the accused.[87]:289
According to the historian Regina Mühlhäuser, the Wehrmacht also used sexual violence and undressing in numerous cases of interrogations.[96] Mühlhäuser adds that the number of illegitimate children born in the occupied regions did not exceed the prewar time. She comes to the conclusion that rapes on the Eastern front were not singular cases but has to admit that the state of source material is very poor.[97]
She comes to the conclusion that rapes on the Eastern front were not singular cases but has to admit that the state of source material is very poor.
Kind of the point right? Given the unbelievable levels of atrocity the Red Guard committed, by far the worst side in WWII, they had to push a lot of propaganda to distract from that.
In a universe (pokemon) where business and making yourself the best through self worth the people playing the game miss the point and are communist. FUCKING LOL
Why do Commies keep bringing retarded Douglas Tottle and his 'Fraud, Famine, and Fascism'?
There is a strong consensus that Communist's policies caused the famine. It's backed by information from archives, statistics on total crop and export size, data from climatologists, and even by eyewitness interviews.
the British were fully willing to team up with the Germans against the Red Army until they realised the full extent of the horror of the holocaust.
This is a literal lie tho
"No one has been a more consistent opponent of Communism for the last twenty-five years. I will unsay no word I have spoken about it. But all this fades away before the spectacle which is now unfolding. The past, with its crimes, its follies, its tragedies, flashes away.… The Russian danger is therefore our danger, and the danger of the United States, just as the cause of any Russian fighting for hearth and house is the cause of free men and free peoples in every quarter of the globe.”
You don't understand the 4D inter-dimensional chess at play here. Yes Britain may have sent the USSR 7000 planes, 5000 tanks and literally billions of dollars worth of aid in the years before the Holocaust was known. But they were actually sending them faulty equipment and sabotaged goods to help the Germans.
Actually, considering how poor most British tanks were, this might be true!
Gotta love tankies complaining about Britain and other western powers being too lenient on the nazis when the USSR themselves signed multiple treaties and economic deals that not only aided the German re armament but secretly planned the invasion of Poland and the Baltic states.
They also like to ignore that Stalin turned down food aid and made model villages to hide what was happening from media sources. Both are hallmarks of a completely accidental event.
mfw /u/Dead_Rendezvous says that the victims of brutal and often fatal gang-rapes deserved it. Cuz yknow, being in a country that commits war crimes means you deserve to be raped to death. I hope he's not American!
This is what pisses me off about whatever social group wants to cry about their families oppressive past. Newsflash dipshit, 99.999% of humanity has had it shit and tough throughout all of history. The amount of poverty, war, genocide, rape, etc, you name it.. Every race has had to go through some fucked up shit.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-03
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1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
Lol "quotes sources from known stalinist authors, denies holodomor as a genocide, wants to visit ussr". This penguin is just a pathetic tankie.
1 InternetPenguin 2018-06-03
Niet.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
You are a revisionist and proud of it. You are basically a weearaboo for Stalin.
1 InternetPenguin 2018-06-03
Better than a Wehrboo, no?
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
No, equally pathetic, uneducated brasilian tankie. I wonder if you'd had the balls to deny holodomor irl, especially in EE?
1 InternetPenguin 2018-06-03
Not denying it. Just saying it wasn't completely Stalin's fault.
I haven't denied the Holodomor once in the thread, you can check it.
(I'm not personally attacking you, so let's remain civil, shall we?)
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
Nah, honeybuns, you denied holodomor as a genocide multiple times in that thread. And calling you as pathetic as wehraboos is an insult to you? Good.
And btw, you can stop this at any moment by no longer answering comments. Cheers.
1 I_Dream_of_Outremer 2018-06-03
Is this what you're going to ask the political commissar as he's putting you on the train to the Gulag
1 El_Guerito_Grande 2018-06-03
Okay then, would you care to elaborate How the holmodor wasn't completely stalin's fault? I'm genuinely curious how the general secretary of the Soviet Union, the leader of the nation and the communist party, wasn't completely guilty of something he deliberately ordered.
1 InternetPenguin 2018-06-03
If you are genuinely curious, here are some readings:
The 1932 harvest and the 1933 famine
Fraud, famine and fascism
Natural disaster and human action in the Soviet Famine of 1931-1933
The years of hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931-1933
1 El_Guerito_Grande 2018-06-03
Thank you for providing sources to your side of the argument. I'll be reading them when I get home, just out of respect of being "civil" in this discussion.
Two Curious questions:
1.) How do you feel about the well documented religious and ethnic persecution within the USSR?
The soviets murdered, deported, and persecuted a diverse group of ethnicities and religions.
The union of the militant atheists persecuted Christians, Jews, Muslims, even Siberian, Uralic, and central Asian tribal religions were suppressed.
The soviets deported Muslim Tartars from Crimea, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, and the Volga region.
They persecuted the Cossacks.
They deported and persecuted Germans from the Baltic, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the Volga region.
They deported hundreds of thousands of Chechens, Ingush, Koreans, Armenians, Poles, Lithuanians, Estonians, Finns, Latvians, Romanians, Kalymyks, Turks, Balkars, Greeks, Karachays, Qarapapaqs, Yaghnobis, Armenians, and Bulgarians.
What's your take on this historically accepted fact. Ones that have been formally and legally recognized as acts of genocide, similar to the holmodor's status in Europe.
2.) How do you feel about Wehrboos justifying the Holocaust with reports and responses stating the Schutzstaffel and the NSDAP didn't have resources to provide prisoners due to allied saturated bombing campaigns and how diseases killed off thousands upon thousands of prisoners?
1 sevp 2018-06-03
Damn homeboy murdered the commie
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-06-03
/u/internetpenguin, it's been 2 hours, no answer to these questions. Tic tock
1 El_Guerito_Grande 2018-06-03
I'm sad, I genuinely wanted to hear his point of view. I think I may have committed murder by words. Hopefully he responds to the civil discussion he asked about.
1 goatsedotcx 2018-06-03
Lol give him a fucking second to reply...you can't just get salty he's not replying after 30 minutes when you write something that big my guy
1 shallowm 2018-06-03
autism
1 Kumdogmillionaire 2018-06-03
Brazilians are the worst race of all
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
He links to a book by Douglas Tottle😠
Lol, even biggest anti socialist bullshit ever produced by (yes american authors) had less fake news amd fairy tales than anything written by Douglas Tottle.
1 godofdae 2018-06-03
Fun plan to the summer: Go to Ukraine and tell people that Stalin was a good boy that made an honest mistake in regards to the Holodomor, like how Maury does to the girl when the guy is not the father.
1 El_Guerito_Grande 2018-06-03
No your not. You're a tankie, a Stalinist wehrboo.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-03
Holy shit lmao. Who the fuck realizes they are scum of the earth and responds with at least I am not amoeba for a comeback? You are shit.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-03
Brazilian tankie, lol. Dude, you would get a tire necklace on day one of the revolution .
1 watermark02 2018-06-03
Haha because there are black people in Brazil right? Hilarious and v/ironic.
1 PresidentialSophist 2018-06-03
Wait, are there no black people in Brazil?
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-03
Not in communist Brazil.
1 headasplodes 2018-06-03
The fuck are you saying nigga?
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-06-03
Where you think those big Brazilian booties come from?
1 imissyouseattle 2018-06-03
Bundas!
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-06-03
It's a thing there too - they call it "micro-ondas" (apparently it translates to something to do with a microwave oven).
Google tells me a journalist called Tim Lopes suffered from it there. ):
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-03
the last laugh
1 jaja10 2018-06-03
i can't imagine hitler would be fond of the worryingly common nazi furries either
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-03
#SoTrue
1 FrogHitler 2018-06-03
почему не работаете товарищ?
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-06-03
+1
Dear drama: stop downvoting the lolcow.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-03
Is there some watchdog for communists that scans reddit for any time something about tankies is posted and immediately brigades it? Lol
1 rhyme-ocerus 2018-06-03
They don't have jobs...
1 spookyguy109 2018-06-03
Yeah it's called /r/CTH
1 Fat_Black_Chick 2018-06-03
BURN
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-03
Well there are bots which
1 allendrio 2018-06-03
Don't need to watch out for tankies they are open and proud about being retarded unlike closeted cuck nazi bois who are afraid to show the world their intellectual girth.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-03
https://i.imgur.com/tafngOt.gif
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-03
I sitll can't believe he got away with that
1 siskonaut 2018-06-03
That was a good bit of bantz for a republican.
1 drvgyn2 2018-06-03
they had to rape slav women in too, just to make sure they didnt become nazis
1 TheSolarian 2018-06-03
Red Army was by far the worse group in WWII. No wonder Patton wanted to have a crack at them.
1 raindrenchedcat2 2018-06-03
Fucking np link
1 Honk4Tits 2018-06-03
Probably the Soviets I mean the Nazi's had higher standards than to rape Olga the potato farmer. The real answer though is the Japanese.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-03
https://i.imgur.com/aks7kxV.png
also reply to me on telegram, i have bad news :(
1 Honk4Tits 2018-06-03
I did man what's up?
1 watermark02 2018-06-03
If they weren't interested in Olga, they would rape Olga's grandmother, look at Olga and be like "Haha hey I'm raping your grandmother!" It was all a good joke. Then they'd shoot Olga and her grandmother and be on their merry way after their moment of jest.
1 I_Dream_of_Outremer 2018-06-03
Just in case anyone is curious, and to bring more drama to this thread, that was way more the style of the Soviets.
Unlike the Soviets (who encouraged it), Germans had rules forbidding rape and routinely punished soldiers, even on the eastern front.
O. Bartov, "Hitler's Army", pg 268
1 watermark02 2018-06-03
I imagine it depends on the historian you cite.
Look pretty much no army in WW2 had an official rape policy. Rape occurred in the orgy of celebration after victory when poorly trained and demoralized troops are let loose with total power over the conquered populace. If the officers and leadership enforced strict discipline, even at the risk of executing their own soldiers and causing grumbling or mutiny within their troops, it did not happen. If they turned a blind eye to it because they didn't want to bother, it did. Their willingness to enforce the laws that all had against rape depended on how human they found the enemy (shoot a German soldier for the sake of a Jew?!) and how shitty and poorly trained their troops were. The Soviets had garbage quality troops, and the Germans didn't view many of their enemies as human. The Germans enforced discipline in the West, they turned a blind eye in the east.
Here's the Wikipedia article on the subject, you can read the situations if you want, there seem to be quite a few historians who disagree with your assertion that the German officers are always good little boys who kept their dogs leashed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Rapes
Rapes were allowed in practice by the German military (officially forbidden, however) in eastern and southeastern Europe, while northern and western countries were relatively spared.[79][80] In Occupied Denmark, which initially agreed to collaborate with Nazi Germany, rapes were not widespread, and German officials promised to punish them.[79] By contrast thousands of Soviet female nurses, doctors and field medics fell victim to rape when captured, and were often murdered afterwards.[18]
German soldiers used to brand the bodies of captured partisan women – and other women as well – with the words "Whore for Hitler's troops" and rape them.[81] Following their capture some German soldiers vividly bragged about committing rape and rape-homicide.[82] Susan Brownmiller argues that rape played a pivotal role in Nazi aim to conquer and destroy people they considered inferior, such as Jews, Russians, and Poles.[83] An extensive list of rapes committed by German soldiers was compiled in the so called "Molotov Note" in 1942. Brownmiller points out that Nazis used rape as a weapon of terror.[84]
Examples of mass rapes in Soviet Union committed by German soldiers include:
Smolensk: German command opened a brothel for officers in which hundreds of women and girls were driven by force, often by arms and hair.[85] Lviv: 32 women working in a garment factory were raped and murdered by German soldiers, in a public park. A priest trying to stop the atrocity was murdered. Lviv: Germans soldiers raped Jewish girls, who were murdered after getting pregnant.[86] It is estimated that over a million children were born to Russian women, fathered by German soldiers.[87]:56 [88] Author Ursula Schele, estimated in the Journal "Zur Debatte um die Ausstellung Vernichtungskrieg. Verbrechen der Wehrmacht 1941-1944" that one in ten women raped by German soldiers would have become pregnant, and therefore it is probable, while not provable, that up to ten million women in the Soviet Union could have been raped by the Wehrmacht.[89]:9
Birgit Beck, in her work Rape: The Military Trials of Sexual Crimes Committed by Soldiers in the Wehrmacht, 1939–1944, describes the leniency in punishing sex crimes by German authorities in the East, at the same time pointing out heavy punishments applied in the West.[90] If a soldier who committed a rape was subsequently convicted by a court-martial, he would usually be sentenced to four years in prison[91] The German penal code was also valid for soldiers in war.[92] However, until 1944 only 5,349 soldiers of the Wehrmacht on all fronts were sentenced because of indecency offence "Sittlichkeitsvergehen" or rape "Notzucht".[93] Historian Mühlhäuser believed that sexual assault was not an exception but common, and that the actual number of rapes committed by German soldiers are without question much greater.[94]
Other sources estimate that rapes of Soviet women by the Wehrmacht range up to 10,000,000 incidents, with between 750,000 and 1,000,000 children being born as a result.[87][88][89][95]
In Soviet Russia rapes were only a concern if they undermined military discipline.[90] Since 1941, rape was theoretically punishable with the death sentence, although rapes were rarely prosecuted in practice and rapes by Germans of non-German women were not taken seriously, nor was it punishable by death, especially in the eastern European territories.[87]:288 In October 1940 the laws on rape were changed, making it a "petitioned crime" – that is a crime for which punishment had to be requested. Historian Christa Paul writes that this resulted in "a nearly complete absence of prosecution and punishment for rape".[87]:288 There were rape cases in the east where the perpetrators were sentenced if the rape was highly visible, damaging to the image of the German Army and the courts were willing to pass a condemning verdict against the accused.[87]:289
According to the historian Regina Mühlhäuser, the Wehrmacht also used sexual violence and undressing in numerous cases of interrogations.[96] Mühlhäuser adds that the number of illegitimate children born in the occupied regions did not exceed the prewar time. She comes to the conclusion that rapes on the Eastern front were not singular cases but has to admit that the state of source material is very poor.[97]
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-03
gender critical was right, men deserve to be wiped out.
1 TheSolarian 2018-06-03
Kind of the point right? Given the unbelievable levels of atrocity the Red Guard committed, by far the worst side in WWII, they had to push a lot of propaganda to distract from that.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-03
Except the japanese.
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-06-03
Shut up Japanese are most cultured people dindu nuffin
1 73696D756C6174696F6E 2018-06-03
/u/InternetPenguin, last 10 posts include /r/FULLCOMMUNISM, /r/communism101, /r/PokemonQuest and /r/FortNiteBR.
Can you be any more peak Reddit?
1 cimarafa 2018-06-03
The average redditeur is a liberal who wants glorified NEETbux/‘basic income’, not an actual commie tbqh.
1 The-idiots114 2018-06-03
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-03
not using greentext
1 theconceiver 2018-06-03
why are you so autistic
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-03
What is the conversation from good boy points to NEETbux?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-06-03
1:4.20
1 AggressionSsb 2018-06-03
In a universe (pokemon) where business and making yourself the best through self worth the people playing the game miss the point and are communist. FUCKING LOL
1 aiyooooo 2018-06-03
pokemon is just an elaborate dog fighting advertisement
1 Sasukefan99 2018-06-03
Of course they play Fortnite
1 Narsil098 2018-06-03
r/futurism and Elon shitposting.
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-06-03
Top kek.
1 watermark02 2018-06-03
Q: Who raped more, Nazis or Commies?
A: A lot
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-03
Alot of rape.
1 Rusond 2018-06-03
Why do Commies keep bringing retarded Douglas Tottle and his 'Fraud, Famine, and Fascism'?
There is a strong consensus that Communist's policies caused the famine. It's backed by information from archives, statistics on total crop and export size, data from climatologists, and even by eyewitness interviews.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-03
I don't care about the tankie vs nazi slapfights, what really bothered me was some dumb Burger saying that the modern day US Army is more badass.
If you don't nut to the sound of a PPSH-41 burst then you're scum.
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-06-03
I would respect antifa a lot more if they used those instead of bielocks
1 oss_spy 2018-06-03
So you've never shot a 249 or 240? Not to mention the .50....then again, your experience is limited by call of duty.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-03
Imagine being this fucking lame.
1 oss_spy 2018-06-03
Imagine being such a weak turd
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-03
Nothing forges men of steel like police calling brass.
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-06-03
This is a literal lie tho
"No one has been a more consistent opponent of Communism for the last twenty-five years. I will unsay no word I have spoken about it. But all this fades away before the spectacle which is now unfolding. The past, with its crimes, its follies, its tragedies, flashes away.… The Russian danger is therefore our danger, and the danger of the United States, just as the cause of any Russian fighting for hearth and house is the cause of free men and free peoples in every quarter of the globe.”
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-03
You don't understand the 4D inter-dimensional chess at play here. Yes Britain may have sent the USSR 7000 planes, 5000 tanks and literally billions of dollars worth of aid in the years before the Holocaust was known. But they were actually sending them faulty equipment and sabotaged goods to help the Germans.
Actually, considering how poor most British tanks were, this might be true!
1 tikimanify 2018-06-03
Gotta love tankies complaining about Britain and other western powers being too lenient on the nazis when the USSR themselves signed multiple treaties and economic deals that not only aided the German re armament but secretly planned the invasion of Poland and the Baltic states.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-03
/u/internetpenguin
Why do tankies always bring up bad harvests and not the deliberate theft of food from the polish to feed the party faithful?
1 yankeeinexile 2018-06-03
muh CIA propaganda
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-03
They also like to ignore that Stalin turned down food aid and made model villages to hide what was happening from media sources. Both are hallmarks of a completely accidental event.
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-06-03
Why did they delete all the comments by the pro-Wehrmacht guy but nit the tankie?
1 Raven0520 2018-06-03
Because Reddit.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-06-03
Redundancy. Communism is Nazism.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-03
Notice neither of them wanted to rape the British.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-06-03
The only people who care about this shit are Nazis and tankies. Which are you OP?
1 ahbslldud 2018-06-03
mfw /u/Dead_Rendezvous says that the victims of brutal and often fatal gang-rapes deserved it. Cuz yknow, being in a country that commits war crimes means you deserve to be raped to death. I hope he's not American!
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-06-03
This is like a bizarro oppression olympics where the winner get to think everyone else's war atrocities somehow absolve their own.
1 jaja10 2018-06-03
Gotta love the way the comment chain is just tankie - deleted comment - tankie - deleted comment - tankie - deleted comment. really makes you think
1 myg0dd 2018-06-03
This is what pisses me off about whatever social group wants to cry about their families oppressive past. Newsflash dipshit, 99.999% of humanity has had it shit and tough throughout all of history. The amount of poverty, war, genocide, rape, etc, you name it.. Every race has had to go through some fucked up shit.