Did you know that Nazis (national socialists) were apparently leftists?

73  2018-06-07 by YameteOniichanItai

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this but of the 20th century German edition

Duh, they identified as socialists, which makes them left-wing regardless of any actual policies (lol) they advocated or implemented. Anyone who tries to miswing Adolf as a right-winger is a transideologyphobic shitlord.

NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES NEVER HAPPENED

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HITLER VV GUD BOI HE DINDU NUFFIN.

Actually, class massacres happen in every communist country

You just ackshualleed. Wow. I didn't think the meme was real.

Actually, hes just retarded

It’s ok to kill the Jews so long as you call them kulaks

Whataboutism lol. Both the Soviets and Nazis killed many people, but their ideologies were completely different.

Don't invalidate his experience, he has "Leftist" in his username so clearly he knows more about leftism than your bigoted ass. I bet the swastika is there to be more inclusive towards Hindus and Buddhists.

He's actually an alt-right agendaposter.

Pfft. If endlessly shitting on muzzies, leftists, le evil globalists, "degenerates" and rapefugees while dickriding Daddy Trump makes one alt righr, then everyone is altright.

Bruv. You can‘t compare the holocaust to the soviets starving people. Apart from that you also have to consider the lebensborn program by the nazis which planned to kill more than half of all Slavs and replace them with germans.

If you wish to compare the deaths caused by a regime then capitalism would be number one by a big margin as all deaths caused by capitalism are over 200 million.

You can't compare holocaust to holodomor.

Imagine being this much of a tankie.

I‘m not a tankie and you downvoting me won‘t change that haha.

I‘m not saying the USSR hasn‘t done bad stuff because the obviously have. It‘s just that what the nazis did is a lot worse you fucking wehraboo. If the USSR or the West has done more shit is up for debate.

Kulakisation was not just starving people. It involved the systematic murder of millions of "bourgeois" peasants who's crime was simply having accrued enough resources to be able to hire laborers.

Like I said I don't want to defend the USSR. I just think that, independently of why they chose their victims, that a concentration cap was definitely a worse place than a gulag. Apart from that the nazis had a lot more fucked up programs planning to kill millions of people. Look at the "Lebensborn" program for example.

So one regime's successful malicious and intentional genocide was worse than another, even though the one that's supposedly not as bad actually killed more. How can you even say that one method of mass murder was somehow worse than another? Diminishing the severity of a genocide is defending it.

Btw, the gulags were an entirely different way from the dekulakization where the USSR committed genocide against their own people.

Wrong

Nice rebuttal there mate. You sure got me.

all deaths caused by capitalism are over 200 million

I wanna see your breakdown since everytime I see something that attempts to do this, it's full of random horseshit and floaty fart logic. Then again based on your post above, that is probably what I should be expecting.

Basically any war fought against communism(fe. Vietnam) or in the middle east for oil, the workers in the third world who die at their workplace and the support of fascist regimes all over the world. You could also add ISIS and Al Quaida to that list as the US supplied them with weapons.

i could elaborate on these points, but then i'd be seriousposting, and would have to harm myself to regain the favor of the /r/drama gods.

Basically any war fought against communism(fe. Vietnam)

takes two to tango, bitch. simplistic views of a very complex time are not helpful.

or in the middle east for oil

There have been exactly zero wars in the Middle East for oil, that's a lazy catchphrase sort of political idea.

the workers in the third world who die at their workplace

Can be laid at the door of the political jurisdictions involved, as well as the economic entities who enabled or created such conditions. This statement is also so vague to not even be intelligible. Does hazy reasoning run in your family?

And boy, talk about a combination of White Savior and Noble Savage memes here -- assigning all responsibility to the US necessarily removes all agency from any and all people in the countries you're discussing. Invisibilize brown bodies much?

support of fascist regimes all over the world

There really weren't too many fascist regimes at all after WWII. Oh wait you're using the term in the current retarded sense of "regimes I consider scary and right-wing" Pretty much the only actual fascists who survived the WWII era were Franco and Salazar, neither of whom would be considered US clients. If you wanted to say "military dictatorships" then sure, but on the flip side, the alternatives were often worse, as in garden spots like Romania and Cambodia. Compare and contrast the post-WWII era in Greece (military dictatorship) and Albania (communist dictatorship).

You could also add ISIS and Al Quaida to that list as the US supplied them with weapons.

You could also add Hershey's to the US list as they supplied the US Army with chocolate.

If you're referring to supplying weapons to insurgents, and them ending up in wrong hands, sure. Happens all the time, warsare messy bitches.

Still waiting for the list btw -- I'm sure it will be enlightening. I hope you're counting the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918, since man, if the US had used its super science to cure that one, instead of hoarding it and only treating white cishet AmeriKKKans, there's another 20-50 million deaths you can lay at the door of Ronald Reagan, that reactionary bourgoise capitalist pig-dog.

You forgot to mention USSR supporting maoist China and North Korea. And supplying weapons to Vietcong which also made their way into the Khmer rouge.

the crimes of Communism are legion, and no mere mortal can meme them all

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Actually, the nazis didn't kill by class but by political leanings during the knight of the long knives/

The identified as anti-socialist and proclaimed themselves a "third way" to restore the Ancien Regimes of Europe and were far-right by every possible definition of the word, going back to the 17th century, but I guess if you want you can be a stereotypical retard american who gets his politics from satellite radio and church meetings.

North Korea is entirely democratic (hint: it's in the name.)

Trans women are women (it’s in the name)

the terms right and left wing are retarded

the concept[s] of a right and left wing is [are] retarded

FTFY

look at this and tell me there aren't left and right wings, dumb ass.

Damn it really do be like that.

Got 'em.

Yah but the left wing flaps and the other one just punches the eagle in the face

I see port and starboard wings.

DICK AND BALLS

The left: Just because National Socialism has socialism in the name doesn't mean they are socialists, you utter buffoon

Also the left: How can you call antifa violent thugs? All they do is oppose fascism. Its right in the name, you shitbag.

That's homophobic.

no u

shut up

White nationalist groups are far larger, more powerful, and influential but all anyone can talk about is a few exit teenagers who disappeared once Facebook and reddit stopped allowing them to organize on their platforms.

remem all those mayo left wing antifas who went on shooting sprees? breed of peace

Literally 0 antifa members have gone on shooting sprees.

thats 1 one to many, ban antifa

Baseball guy. He almost killed Steve scalise. Can't think of a single other one, but it's happened

Thought baseball guy was a Bernout?

I think both

Baseball guy wasn't antifa lol.

Baseball guy tried shooting up a bunch of senators. Antifa just can't aim for shit.

Lefties usually leave their murder sprees to their Uslamic servants

Chad leftist use their slave muslims to commit terror plot vs virgin right winger that need to do it themselves.

leftist use their slave muslims to commit terror plot

Yes.

Another way in which leftist are truly superior.

Do the right wing have a slave race ? Checkmat, libtard.

The left wing are a slave race

Imagine being this autistic lmao

White nationalist groups are far larger, more powerful, and influential

lol fuck off. How many times have we had riots at Berkeley, and how many tiki torch marches have we had?

Tiki torch marches got someone killed and berkely riots didn't, so white nationalists are definititely in the lead here.

Dude that was one of many. They legit kill more people yearly than any one group in the US.

Like you realize nobody other than retarded American conservatives thinks antifa is a relevant problem, right?

Go look at any FBI report on domestic terrorist threat.

Hint: White nationalists are at the top. Look at any police report in general.

They all fear white nationalists/right wing domestic terrorists.

Right-wing domestic terrorists kill more people in the US yearly than anyone else.

https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_ECDB_IslamistFarRightHomicidesUS_Infographic_Feb2017.pdf

it's kind of embarassing for antifa that literally no one who matters is afraid of them tbh

The only thing they do is feed delusional conservatives propaganda material so they can keep up the 30 year long narrative that "both sides are the same."

ok but why downvote me i mean you're big powerful famous pizzashill and i'm just that guy who replies wow this

it's pretty hurtful, like more hurtful than antifa even

What makes you think I downvoted you or care enough to downvote you?

The Reddit algorithm. 1 gets fudged to 0 or 2 all the time

ok but why downvote me

Get off the cross you fucking fag.

Antifa aren’t a problem only because they are weak ineffective faggots.

Can you please go back to MDE, the_Daddy or where ever you come from?

Can you please go back to TransPassing

What the fuck is transpassing? I'm not an SJW you retard.

It is a relevant problem, because just the other day we had more people arrested in my city because they assaulted a demonstration since they have no god damned clue what white supremacists actually are. The fact they just assault people and are too weak to follow through with it doesn't matter to me, when I actually interact with it in my life.

And nobody but retarded Dem party shills think there's a massive cabal of white supremacists

By retarded dem party, do you mean law enforcement and FBI?

As far as I can tell, the only time that problems happen in Berkeley is when the fascists—oh sorry, whatever name you prefer, like "white identitarians"—show up. At all other times, it's just a peaceful community of smelly hippies.

Look dude if we're going to pretend Milo or Shapiro are fascists we're not going to go very far.

Both of those Jews certainly promote boot-licking.

Both of those Jews certainly promote the boot-licking of authoritarian personalities.

wew lad

You don't think Jews can be authoritarians?

What numbers are you basing that on? Seems like antifa organizations are more numerous with more members globally than WN groups.

The “it’s right in the name” is the response to “Antifa are the real fascists” not when anyone says Antifa are a bunch of violent thugs. Antifa are pretty openly violent thugs, just they are supposed to only be violent thugs towards fascists. They are dumb as hell though so they are terrible at spotting fascists and mostly bash trash cans and yell at anyone who comes near Berkeley wearing a collared shirt.

It still applies to this istance.

1: Nazis weren't socialists.

2: It's literally in their name, faggot.


2: Antifa are fascists

1: It's literally in their name, sauerkraut.

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Topical!

The identified as anti-socialist and proclaimed themselves a "third way" to restore the Ancien Regimes of Europe and were far-right by every possible definition of the word, going back to the 17th century, but I guess if you want you can be a stereotypical retard american who gets his politics from satellite radio and church meetings you can.

If restoring Western Civilization is right, I don’t wanna be wrong.

Western civilization is the historical novelty of an atheistic and tolerant society based on science, individualism, and the sacrifice of tradition on the alter of progress.

Fascists were so anti-western that they loved Islam.

That is the dumbest thing I have heard today. Congratulations.

The Nazis loving Islam is historical fact you retard.

liberals = nazis confirmed

And tankies = nazis by the horseshoe theorem, so liberals = tankies. QED

tfw when liberalism died in the 00s and what we are left with is two shades of far-right.

Liberalism is gayer than aids sweetie, fascism is the one true path

You should start talking to yourself, you would be hearing completely retarded shit all the time!

That would be a duplication of effort

Their economics were left, their social policies were right. By modern standards, the state seizing control of the means of production to redistribute amongst the population, in addition to emphasis on uniform public education (as opposed to individual family ideals) are left wing. Restoring "traditional values" through social purification are right wing ideals.

That's why both the left and the right call each other nazis. It's silly to call the Nazis completely left OR completely right. Literally no right-winger wants the government to take over businesses, over-print currency to solve debt issues, or attempt use public education to replace the family (Hitler youth).

Tonnes of right wingers support economically ‘collectivist’ (or redistributive) policies, American “”””fiscal conservatism”””” is also known in most of the world as economic liberalism, supported by the liberals of the 19th century who believed in open markets and free trade. Reactionaries have always opposed this.

Economic liberalism is in no way a collectivist/redistributive system, it's the exact opppsite. Reactionaries have always opposed it because it isn't collectivist.

Yes, that’s exactly what I just said.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought you were disagreeing with me

You should continue arguing anyways for the drama

Quit trying to spray me with your mayo

Lmao aasuming im a mayo, nice try soyboy

now make up and kiss, you two deserve it.

But many rightwingers favor some bussinesses, some don't care about the debt and many would try to shape families and culture to their favourite religion or nationalist nonsense via public education.

One is regulatory capture (a market failure), and 'crony capitalism' (either a market failure or a feature of the right depending on where you're standing). One is nationalization, a leftist position. The first stays inside the law, the second disregards property rights in the name of the people.

Fascism borrowed it, like it borrows other left positions like land reform, to create a 'third way' that was neither a liberal democracy or Bolshevik communism.

My point is that the economic points of fascism are a lesser aspect to the project; instead, the national cult, the strongman cult, and the concentration between government, bussiness and (some parts of) labor are way more important.

Is there a lot of difference between the government overtaking a bussiness or the bussiness overtaking the government if it gets bad enough?

Would be a lot of difference between national capitalism and national socialism at the end? It'd be naive to say something is not fascism just because it didn't behave 100% like Italy or Germany did. The worst parts of the nationalist right are not so different at the end.

Yes, there would be a difference. You can compare the 'national capitalist' Gilded Age USA and Nazi Germany.

For example, during the Gilded Age, Esso exerted a massive amount of political influence to stifle regulation, competition, and unions in pursuit of maximum profit. IG Farben, when nationalized by the Nazis, produced breakthroughs in synthetic oil and rubber, and chemical weapons in pursuit of the Nazi government's goals (war and autarky).

The social aspects are typically more right wing. The right does enjoy its strong, forceful actors and flag waving. They are not unique to the right, however. While Obama was not a particularly 'forceful' strongman, he did have a large following due to his charisma, and told Congress he would go over their head with his Executive Orders (I've got a pen, and I've got a phone.). A more traditional one would be Lenin and his Vanguardism.

The big difference between the American right and Fascism is the end goal. A Fascist regime seeks to use a mix of left and right policies to bind the People to the State, and use them to do the State's will. Even in Trump's wildest dreams, he's not going to shackle the American people to go full 100 Million Hearts Beating As One.

For example, during the Gilded Age, Esso exerted a massive amount of political influence to stifle regulation, competition, and unions in pursuit of maximum profit. IG Farben, when nationalized by the Nazis, produced breakthroughs in synthetic oil and rubber, and chemical weapons in pursuit of the Nazi government's goals (war and autarky).

I'm not talking about the gilded age right, I'm talking about the nationalist right (see Trump for a prototype of how could that go). If there are enough bussiness interests that think beyond maximizing some profits and more about an ultranationalist ideology is not too farfetched (see the media of the US right and its promiscuous relationship with the state to have an idea of how that could work).

The social aspects are typically more right wing. The right does enjoy its strong, forceful actors and flag waving. They are not unique to the right, however. While Obama was not a particularly 'forceful' strongman, he did have a large following due to his charisma, and told Congress he would go over their head with his Executive Orders (I've got a pen, and I've got a phone.). A more traditional one would be Lenin and his Vanguardism.

Without offense, but that's a laughable comparison. There is one difference between a leader being popular and charismatic and an ideology promoting blind acceptation of whatever the leader says (see Trump and how there is a system around him so people accept his bullshit). It's easier to find criticism of Obama on the left than criticism of Trump on the right by an order of magnitude.

Let's not even talk too much about the executive orders, because it's fairly evident that they weren't "abused" so much compared to other administrations and it was a fairly extreme circumstance. And again, it's not like he wasn't criticized by the left for doing that.

The big difference between the American right and Fascism is the end goal. A Fascist regime seeks to use a mix of left and right policies to bind the People to the State, and use them to do the State's will. Even in Trump's wildest dreams, he's not going to shackle the American people to go full 100 Million Hearts Beating As One.

No, the big difference is how overt are about using violence. Trump would want to bind people to his will and have absolute powers (see his tweet about having powers of pardoning himself), but he is too blatantly stupid to achieve it.

The nationalist right deteriorates institutions until there is no independence nor fairness, the fascists would take government by force without hesitating.

The economics are just a mere detail when considering this.

Literally no right-winger wants the government to take over businesses, over-print currency to solve debt issues, or attempt use public education to replace the family (Hitler youth). These are things associated with the extreme left.

The first right-wingers were literal monarchists and most monarchist parties in Europe support all of these things. Take your dumbass Americuck political science somewhere else.

IMO a lot of the ideological weirdness comes from the facts that A. Hitler was actually a bit lazy in terms of substance rather than being a rabid ideologue like Stalin and B. European conservatives (going back to Bismarck) were monarchists/statists rather than the allegedly anti-statist American conservatism of today and thus were often willing to do "socialist" things.

I'd argue that the best description (sacrificing for the sake of simplicity) of Hitler and the Nazis would be that they were an attempt at a modernist reboot of imperial Germany. Getting weirder, I'd argue that in spite of Stalin being much more of a Marxist ideologue the Soviet Union wound up being the bigger "success" story in terms of being a modernist reboot of the old order.

History can be weird. Ask a turn-of-the century observer and they'd have told you that Russia was destined for Jew-hating fascism and that Germany would wind up communist/socialist.

We should also call North Korea a democratic country, it says so right in the name!

violent thugs

pretty sure rightoids reserve that one for black people. the correct term is "terrorists" or possibly "the real fascists," get your strawman right

lolberts are the dumbest people on the political spectrum.

Wait what's a lolbert? I think it has something to do with Dilbert but need some help here.

lolbert=lolbertarian aka libertarians.

We just call them pedophiles here.

It's a free market!

Gaming journalists?

Nah, the classic liberalism fags tend to be KiA. Male feminists are rapists but nto pedophiles.

Wew lad that is just some proud smug retardation on display.

What about Nazbol

Nazis who own an ushanka

No one gives a shit about nazbols.

But we're proud Trump nationalists and there's nothing wrong with that? No siree. No part of the National Socialist name that alludes to the glorious tradition of nationalism.

Read Wiki article on Nazism

“The majority of scholars identify Nazism in both theory and practice as a form of far-right politics.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Position_within_the_political_spectrum

democratic (((scholars)))

It's all a (((plot))) to get red-pilled white kids to convert to leftism.

Scholars are educated. Therefore, they're tankie SJW liberals and do nothing but lie.

But scholars also believe Jesus existed.

So they're definitely all at least retarded

(((scholars)))

So if the Jews know that Nazis will claim they're liars, and they claim Nazis are right-wing, does that makes this all a ploy to get them to convert to leftism?

Majority of commie faggots

The Jews were just trying to defend Capitalism and right-wing ideals, but comrade Hitler couldn't let that stand.

That is one way of putting it

r u mad?

I am both highly educated (double degree in computer science with all honors available, solo singing, composition, piano - currently learning the flute), and a fan of Prokofiev. I have been practicing his second piano concerto for over a year, almost every day. And while I'm no Yuja Wang, I can play it decently. If you disagree with what I have said there, you are free to read the rest of this thread where I have substantiated that claim for those that doubt it. Also, keep the abuse to yourself. It speaks very poorly of you, same as your spelling decisions and the lack of punctuation.

You sound like a dork

Perhaps you did not read the last paragraph. I repeat:

Also, keep the abuse to yourself. It speaks very poorly of you, same as your spelling decisions and the lack of punctuation.

You are right. I did not read it. Tant pis pour vous.

SJWs are influencing (negatively) many aspects of life, such as gaming.

Lmfao every time

Imagine gaming being your go to issue.

You joke but the number of now alt right spergs that got into politics after MUH VIDEYA gamergate is not accident. Bannon was WOW gold farmer, he knew the untapped potential of stinky basement virgins.

While playing Paladins.

(((Paladins)))

Gaming journalism is the most retarded shit in the world. Whether that's because of le SJWs or the fact that gaming journalists are basically untalented journalists who couldn't get a job in a normal news agency is another issue.

Yeah gaming journalism is trash cause it’s populated by so many trash writers and morons, it’s been like that for as long as I can remember

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When im playinv games I quite often how imagine much better my gaming experience could be of it weren't for SJWs spoiling it with their weird idea that women are as equal as men. I blame SJWs for the whole battlefront 2 mess. What are they thinking?

I stand by my statement about Wagner in the original thread

I want to start a political party that espouses hardcore communist and SJW positions. It will be called "The American Patriot Alt-Right Conservative Christian Wall Street Party." That should give us at least 50 years of drama involving people claiming that the Alt-Right was all about promoting tranny bathroom rights and communal toothbrushes.

You do that, cupcake

Socialists using class politics to put wealthy kulaks in gulags. Sounds like Nazis.

Sounds like Nazis.

Takes one to know one

I’m not a german nor a socialist

I’m not a german nor a socialist

I would never accuse you of being of European heritage. It is quite clear that you are a degenerate sister-raping centipedo

I’m not a german nor a socialist

I would never accuse you of being of European heritage.

Wow racist

Wow racist

Can't be racist to mouthbreathing mongoloids, try again

National Socialism is a very strange ideology--almost undeniably right-wing in its rhetoric on ideas such as the nation, the volk, power, etc. but also somewhat similar to socialism in regards to many of its economic practices. It will never cease to confuse lay people unversed in political science.

The existence of nations is good. If that is right wing, then normal citizens are right wing.

I believe strongly in the existence of nations. Practically everyone except for extreme globalists do. The point is not that the Nazis were nationalists but rather that they were extreme in some of their stances on nationalism, even compared to their counterparts in Europe and the Americas who would be very right-wing/nationalistic compared to their states today.

Good. Enforce the borders, illegals out, voter ID, rapefugees out, Build That Wall. End sanctuary cities, free Timmy Robinson and end globalist scheming. MAGA!

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Daddy is a miracle.

You can‘t make this shit up haha

Later: Wtf Trump supporters aren't Nazis.

A german politician once said that in a tweet. Yep.

Oh god, I had a recent discussion with someone else who thought this.

When you can start to say that Nazis, USSR, etc. were socialist the term simply ceases to mean anything as then everything can reasonably called socialism.

The only relevant definition of socialism is that it's the school of egalitarian economics. Meaning that there is democratic control over the economy.

Social programs and socialism have nothing to do with each other per se. Not even the slightest bit. Because social programs do not necessarily change nothing about the order of the economy.

Social programs who are meant to divert income inequality to strengthen the choice of the individual can be socialist (e.g. ubi)

Social programs, who are meant alleviate tensions are not (e.g. free grain allotments in rome).

Also, the NSDAP actually had socialist programmatic points (I.e. the 25 point program is often cited by guys like him/her) but those were only window dressing to appeal to the common worker, not actual things Hitler intended to do and were dropped long before he got in power. Those that remained served as window dressing to partly justify his attacks on actual socialist.

Hitler was enabled and funded by german capitalists like Krupp and Tyssen, which accurately shows that he did not in any way sought to combat these big cooperations.

after he got in power unions were banned, so was the social democratic party and socialist were put into jail.

But still the window dressing remained to ensure support by common people and stuff like worker's day were introduced.

/u/MostlyTiredUser 23 points 10 hours ago

They were so leftist they persecuted and sent marxists and communist to concentration camps.

Sounds a bit like the Moscow Trials.

So leftist they literally arrested and killed communist nazi party member during the night of long knives in 1934 after Hitler had risen to power.

Like what Stalin did to the Trots?

In the early 20s, Hitler will commonly refer to himself as a socialist. How ever, if you read his speeches from 22 onwards you'll notice a shift in discourse (it is almost as if socialism was popular during a time of capitalist crisis and the nazi party was trying to ride the wave and get as many people as possible to join them)

Some quotes, just so you know I ain't pulling this out of my ass:

"There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to dissociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! for it will lead us to complete destruction - to Bolshevism, or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power - that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago. Here, too, there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew."

  • Hitler, in a speech from 1922, denouncing leftist ideology.

"There are no such things as classes: they cannot be. Class means caste and caste means race."

  • Hitler, in the same speech, completely denying the core concept of the left, class struggle.

"What right do these people have to demand a share of property or even in administration?... The employer who accepts the responsibility for production also gives the workpeople their means of livelihood. Our greatest industrialists are not concerned with the acquisition of wealth or with good living, but, above all else, with responsibility and power. They have worked their way to the top by their own abilities, and this proof of their capacity – a capacity only displayed by a higher race – gives them the right to lead."

  • Hitler to Max Amann, defending the right of business owners to keep the means of production... you know... the thing socialists fight against.

And, I'd to remind you, Hitler's definition of socialis is not the common academic definition:

"Socialist' I define from the word 'social; meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false."

-Hitler, in 1938, defining his brand of socialism... that is surprisingly anti socialist.

god imagine being this uneducated.

Left and right are concepts that came form the french revolution

Right = pro monarchy, aristocracy/conservatism

Left = pro poor people/change

This translates into all major early 20th century politics where the leftists usually sat left in a parliament and were usually pro working class and poor people, generally anti authoritarian or social hierarchy, while the right were pro hierarchy and old norms.

These days left and right refers to both social progressivism vs social conservatism and economically socialist vs economically capitalist

I am both highly educated (double degree in computer science with all honors available, solo singing, composition, piano - currently learning the flute), and a fan of Prokofiev. I have been practicing his second piano concerto for over a year, almost every day. And while I'm no Yuja Wang, I can play it decently.

If you disagree with what I have said there, you are free to read the rest of this thread where I have substantiated that claim for those that doubt it.

Also, keep the abuse to yourself. It speaks very poorly of you, same as your spelling decisions and the lack of punctuation.

Is this fresh pasta???

To be fair, historically leftists were most likely to be killed by other leftists.