Are women working too hard? Study calls for females to have a shorter working week than men because many are on the brink of dangerous burnout

274  2018-06-07 by WeWuzKANG5

358 comments

...and soon militant third wave feminists will be telling that The Patriarchy made this up to keep women down...lol

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maybe if women can't work they shouldn't.

It's time we send women to concentration camp. So they can concentrate and focus on work

I thought it was the kitchen.

Experts recommend that women should work shorter hours in order to compensate for the unpaid jobs they do every single day.

Yes, the burden single woman living alone have, compared single men living alone, justifies paying men less for working longer hours.

Also the study said women should work 34 hrs, and men 47. 34/47= 70%, so maybe paying women 77% of their male counterparts, is too much.

I love how feminists and experts cry about their unpaid jobs. Get your shit straight with your partner. Not my problem someone can’t balance household chores.

It's White Jimbocide.....for women.

...And That's A Good Thing.

and its T E R R I F Y I N G

SAHMs are even worse about it.

It's le full time jerb!!

Meanwhile they're completely up to date on every TV show and have the luxury of shopping during weekdays

Don't you know? Being a SAHM is equivalent to working 52,987,423 full time jobs a day.

Gotta be a nurse, teacher, life coach, nutritionist, personal driver, artist, caretaker, chef, manager, and literally any job ever

Gotta put the Frozen DVD in the DVD player like every day. It's fucking rough.

You can solve that by having at least two children. Seriously, my sister wanted to watch the same DVD every goddamn morning

I encourage anyone who does "household chores" to actually bill their time. There is absolutely no way those menial tasks add up to 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. If you're a housewife, you've got it fucking made in terms of division of labor.

My mom was a stay at home. Looking back I’m amazed. House clean, meals done, and then she’d just work on her stained glass hobby or garden for hours.

And when my dad got home it was always, “I cleaned alllll dayyyyy.”

Of course she did, women are delicate flowers that can't handle responsibilities or timely work -feminists 2020

My mom was stay at home, but she was constantly working.

My mom was stay at home, but she was constantly sleeping. (After staying up all night)

Yeah my mom went to walk the dogs, took a trip to the supermarket, and then expected everyone else to "contribute to the housework". Now that she's bought a roomba I'm really struggling to see when exactly all this intense labour is occurring.

Tell her off lol. Maybe your dad will hook you up with something nice.

GOD MOM YOU’RE SO LAZY WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THE DISHES? MAKE THE ROOMBA DO THEM REEEE

Stop complaining and do it, though. Better for you to get used to it sooner rather than later, because one day you'll be living alone and it's better to know how to do your chores and be a clean individual than a fucking filthy one.

I do live alone and I keep my house perfectly clean. It's hardly a full-time job.

attaboy. Seriously, though. It's really not that hard. I worked 40 hours, got home and cooked/cleaned, had time for gaming, even to go out and chill. Why can men do it and not women?

This is really not a discussion about single people. The "problem" they're getting at is where in dual-income families, women with full time jobs do more housework than their partners. And yeah, that's probably not really the healthiest indicator, and bears some deeper examination.

Of course, their "solution" is ludicrous.

Let's see those baseboards and ceiling fans friend.

Do this at your paid job and see how many hours you spend on non-value-adding tasks. Most people work like 50% of the hours they "work."

Except they are getting paid for it by someone outside of of the house and they still need to be there.

I do and I have an 1800 annual minimum, which is ~85% of your time if you work 40 hours. But I usually work a lot more because, you're right, time very easily gets away from you.

The daytime network TV line up is all the proof you need for this lol.

I just bought a house. I have a dog but no roommates. As long as I clean every day for 20 minutes after I come home from work my house stays really clean.

Shit I clean my apartment for 30 minutes every weekend and it honestly looks pretty great.

You’re just spouting ignorance if you’ve never been a homemaker.

You forget that in a workplace you will have a boss or manager to lead and designate. With roles already predetermined. A lot of housewives have to manage the house and organize and plan things out.

It's like saying the menial paperwork a whitecollar does isn't much. But it adds up.

Those housewives who are bored and write books or have weird hobbies are the ones who either have maids, no children, or are at level CEO in their household after years of finetuning a running household.

It is easy to say a mature housewife or a CEO just sit around doing nothing AFTER they have fine tuned their company.

In a workplace, you need a boss or manager because the jobs aren't ones that every normal functional adult just does in their spare time.

Single men do this shit all the time and have no issues with it.

B-but single men don't clean properly

OK so add an extra 20 mins a week to fold clothes properly etc. The single men who live like pigs don't save that much time by not cleaning shit properly, it's just personal preference (and very little difference in effort).

No, you need a boss or a manager to lead and keep the business running as efficiently and smoothly as possible. I have worked in a place with 'menial' tasks filled with high school kids and it ran awfully because they thought they didn't need management for such menial tasks. The job is just like any other job. A cleaning company is expensive for a reason.

It isn't about the single men not cleaning properly. Many can clean just fine. It is all the other small things that add up.

Firstly the workload doubles when it is two people. One has to manage the household. If we take your laundry for example. One has to make sure the supplies are constantly there. i.e. shopping. Then separate the colours and clean according to the material. I remember a couple where the girl got fucked because the guy put all her clothes at 60 degrees like he does with his. And they all shrunk. Sewing up holes in the clothes. Ironing.

Sorting into washer and turning machine on. 5min Taking clothes out and hanging them. 15min Ironing the clothes 30min. Fixing, Sewing the clothes 5min (I only put 5 min because it happens so rarely, but takes more time when you have to do it.) Folding the clothes 10min Putting them back into closet 10min Miscellaneous dead time, e.g. the walking, the small extra time it takes to read a new washing packet or opening and shutting the washer, cleaning the hair, reading the clothing label on a new piece of clothing etc. 10min

Totalling 1hr 25min to wash clothes. Twice a week that becomes nearly 3 hours. Or 1/3 of a work day. Just for laundry.

Now do that for every chore. Boom you have assigned tasks just like every other job that you need to manage and organize and juggle.

Out of laundry detergent. Fine. Get a new one. But you also need to get this and that too. So one has to organize the best time to get everything. Oh, now the boyfriend has sensitive skin and can only use this detergent which is slightly pricier. Look through stores finding the cheapest priced one and buy as many as you can within budget.

It isn't just a menial task. There is a lot of background planning which people don't see. Which increases a lot more when it becomes two.

Whereas a single person can just throw it in when they need to and adjust to themselves. It is a lot harder to keep things running smoothly when it is two.

I am not a housewife. But I have seen them and been in awe at how well they keep things running. It is all very easy when you are single to do shit. But add more people and it becomes a mess. Got that experience first hand when I lived with 3 other roommates who would clean whenever they felt like it. (as if they were doing their own single life). And yes this results in a lot more mess. We all had our spurts where we would try and clean the whole amounts that would accumulate from all of us, but it would take too much time and energy. It was only when we all sat down and organized a set work plan with chores and designated people to different tasks that things went running smoothly.

Just because they have down time and seem to be chilling. Doesn't mean they are not working. Just because they watch tv while sewing that shirt, doesn't mean they have some luxury life.

Single men and women do this all the time. But if it was really that menial, why wouldn't men do this all the time instead of allowing for housewives?

B-but I am tired from working all day to fund this household.

Well it is easy, menial and every normal functional adult does it right?

Well it is easy, menial and every normal functional adult does it right?

The difference being that working takes 8 hours every day. Housework takes ... what ... 2 hours if you're completely anal?

If that's the case? Why do people have maids and butlers and so on? A good worker always finds work. I would assume a good house wife would spend that free time to make meals at a higher level quality that people who work will make for themselves. That she would put in the research for wholesome healthy meals. That she would get groceries as cheap as possible through well thought out budgets and planning. The house would be decorated at a higher level with research on how to give peace of mind through the atmosphere.

I am not the type of person who would ever want to be a housewife. But I assume the guys who want that and ask the wife to stay at home. Are doing so for a reason.

Sure you have gold diggers and losers who just leech off others.

But there are also those who take their jobs seriously. Women who try to make a good home and do a good job with their time.

A lot of jobs are menial, dumb, and any person can do them. But I don't see why housewives should get less respect than them due to not making the money. They are indirectly helping the guy make money by giving him more free time after work.

The whole issue with the article I assume. Are the women who are expected to do both. Work, and take care of the household and kids at a higher level than their SO.

Are all guys like this? Hell no. But there are probably quite a few. There are the older guys who are used to more conservative roles. The mamma's boys who went from house to wife and have never really taken care of themselves. So when asked to contribute, they do the halfassed job a child would do rather than an adult. There are the lazy ones, or the ignorant ones, or the manipulative ones. Or the ones who aren't even present nor take care of their children. I am assuming the women who married a man child are the ones being burnt out. Especially if they have children.

In Norway we have parental leave for both genders, both can choose whether to take the time out together or one by one. It promotes equality and shared responsibility. In America I don't even think they have parental leave. So yeah, a lot of women end up having to become housewives or work and take care of baby. Which is fucked up. Considering most people still see women as the main caretaker for children. It is no surprise that they are burned out.

My only guess is that the good guys won't see it. Because they aren't that lazy and assume that other guys can't be that shit. While the lazy guys, like the Dunning-Kruger effect, think they are amazing and their wife is a big nag and overreacting for not wanting to give their kid food with allergens. But they weren't at home reading for four hours about celliac disease like their wife did to know.

When it came to high school kids. My point was.. that it isn't only about washing the dishes or doing the laundry. It is also about managing all that. For two or more people. So yeah. Maybe she spends two hours on housework. Then 3 hours finding a better insurance company. Calling the plumber. Meeting the bank for a better loan.

Housewives are just glorified cleaning servants. They do a lot more.

If that's the case? Why do people have maids and butlers and so on?

Only a tiny number of people employ full-time servants, or if they can get dirt cheap workers (illegal immigrants in the US maybe?).

Isn't it odd that men who aren't in the top 1% want to sacrifice almost half their household income for a full-time maid?

A good worker always finds work.

Indeed.

I would assume a good house wife would spend that free time to make meals at a higher level quality that people who work will make for themselves. That she would put in the research for wholesome healthy meals. That she would get groceries as cheap as possible through well thought out budgets and planning. The house would be decorated at a higher level with research on how to give peace of mind through the atmosphere.

This all sounds like shit that women want, and makes men just roll their eyes. It's like saying "that full-time house husband is a real catch because he tinkers with the car, home wifi, and tool shed all day, their wife is so lucky". LoL.

I am not the type of person who would ever want to be a housewife. But I assume the guys who want that and ask the wife to stay at home. Are doing so for a reason.

Or women really want a pretty house, and want to spend time doing it.

How many guys will kick their wife to the curb if she extends maternity leave and eventually decides to just drop out of work entirely?

Sure you have gold diggers and losers who just leech off others.

So if a guy could just stay home playing games and maybe doing the washing up before the wife gets back, how many would? Obviously not 100% of guys are selfish dipshits. But maybe 10? What's the percent of women in modern countries who are "full time" housewives?

ah dude i tried to explain this to my ex so many times. she wouldn't do dishes after she ate, and she woudn't put things back where they belonged. i tried telling her that if she spent 5 mins a day just washing her dishes, and putting shit away, then once a week she just has to vaccuum and mop or w/e and it would take an hour or two tops. some house hold jobs don't need to be done weekly, so you keep track of how long till you've done them and do them once a month or something.

but no, her place was a fuckin sty. dishes everywhere with rotting food on them, couldn't walk on the floor without stomping on packages and containers that should be in the garbage, clothes everywhere. it took her an ENTIRE DAY once a week to clean all that shit up.

god she was a fucking retard.

I live out of my truck "chores" are a personal decision

The best part, of course, is the primary driver for rhe necessity of the chores in the first place.

Like, you obsess over bullshit and then whine that you aren't getting enoigh credit for taking care of the bullshit that only you wanted to do in the first place. Nice racket, no?

Yeah, like I had a roommate in college that had a ridiculous standard when it came to whether things were clean. If you're the only one who cares about the dust behind the t.v. taking care of it doesn't count as a contribution to upkeep.

Experts recommend that women should work shorter hours in order to compensate for the unpaid jobs they do every single day.

I spent a total of 6 days last year just raising and lowering the goddamn toilet seat. The struggle is real.

women should work 34 hrs, and men 47

As an hourly rate contractor, I would LOOOOOOOVE to work 47 hours a week. 20% pay raise? Yes, please!

God, same here. There are already days where I finish projects early and just hang out and play Dwarf Fortress until 5. If they let me stay in the office even longer to get paid for playing ASCII games I would be all over that.

I would say that 35-39 hours of my work week is spent surfing reddit and shitposting in /r/drama.

Livin' the dream.

Seems like it until you're on reddit enough to realize it's all the same recycled bullshit over and over and over.

I don't believe anyone has posted a tasteful shot of your gaping boyhole yet. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Fuck off, JWG.

That's why I play MMOs. No raiding though because impromptu meetings are a thing.

I would if they'd let me work from home. That's what I used to did with WoW many years ago.

Im ok with recycled drama.

Five years of redditing at an office job. It's always drama.

Same, I have ~3 hours of work every day starting at 6, done by 9 but reddit until 4.

fukn, what job, i want it.

You too??

#MeToo

"""(((experts)))"""

"""Experts"""

"We've determined that we deserve to get paid more for fewer hours" ~Unbiased Expert

If we get rid of the gender issue, would you agree that a primary caregiver of a minor or disabled adult would be more likely to experience burnouts (whether they be a male or female) and it's in their best interest to have a shorter work week?

I guess I'm wondering if people are upset about the idea itself OR if they're upset that it's only geared towards women (and therefore sexist af)?

I'm totally fine with them having a shorter base workweek, but they should be payed a lower salary to compensate

I don't think if I had an employee, that I had to pay them for doing their own chores.

I'm not talking about that at all.

If we get rid of the gender issue, would you agree that a primary caregiver of a minor or disabled adult would be more likely to experience burnouts (whether they be a male or female) and it's in their best interest to have a shorter work week?

Sure, get a flexible job where you can work less hours (and not be paid for )

I don't understand how the only meaningful solution is to promote equal division of labor in the home, and not this totally unworkable and bizarre scheme.

Why would you promote equal division if men and women might value state of their house differently so they have different motivation to do housework?

In reality, things will always work like that to some extent anyway - the person who cares more will do more work. But it helps not to normalize lopsided housework loads, etc, so that people aren't pushed into provider/homemaker roles by outside forces, and their career doesn't suffer by association.

I want to see mandatory maternity AND paternity leave for the same reasons. The age of single-income households is basically over, and we all have to adjust.

Why mandatory? Dad didn’t went into labour and doesn’t have a tity for toddler to suck.

Oh, there is plenty to do aside from immediate recovery - and parents don't need to be forced to take them at the same time. Fathers benefit from bonding with their infants too, and setting aside some time to do that seems like a good idea. Professionally, it erases some of the disadvantages that come with hiring women, while giving us dudes an extra benefit.

When will you learn that modern “equality” is anything for you but extra benifits?

Having time to spend with your newborn is a pretty good benefit, yeah.

Who do you think is going to pay for it?

I dont even know where all these women doing these chores come from. Quite literally every single woman Ive ever met is proud of how she cant iron or cook anything other than chicken nuggets.

even better when they start going on about 'emotional labour' as if they're the ones in the relationship that have to constantly bend over backwards to please the inane demands of an emotionally needy partner...

Just say that arguing about this is also an emotional labour and they should have some emotional rest.

For centuries, women have been experts at juggling their relationships, careers, children, health and home all at once.

This rare juggling skill is also known as "being an adult".

uggggg adulting, amirite ladies?

sips wine

For centuries the only career women could go into was baby making

fuckin' bankers hours

Are banker hours misogynist and further proof of the patriarchy?

bankerette, how bout dat

And they routinely fucked it up too

Fucking is surprisingly easy to fuck up

Literally one job for most of human history and not even that good at it on average

jesus

I'd rather raise a child in the 1500th century rather than working the plows in the field or going to a fucking war

Yeah, but then you have to fuck 15th century men.

Who doesnt

Getting plowed by a 15th century man doesn't sound bad. ;)

enjoy that infected dick

And the smegma

Not if you go for superior Muhammad cock

It's not like the women smelled much better.

I'd rather raise a child in the 15th century rather than working the plows in the field

Women in the 15th century worked the plow too, tho.

Yes, about 70 percent as effectively.

I am sure you know all about being plowed and thus are perfectly able to determine this, down to the percent.

Not sounding centrist enough over there, I smell an agenda!

Broke : Not having an agenda.

W👁️KE : Having simultaneously all the agendas.

Yeah everyone has to eat shit as an adult.

Having a full life is suddenly eating shit?

responsibility can feel like shit

I think he's saying that nobody is excused from responsibility

responsibility is excused by nobody

Did you try it? It definitely is.

Nobody holds a gun against your head and tells you to have kids

You don't know my kinks

i actually agree with you. this is why i don't want kids, cause i don't want to be one of those whiney people who talk about how stressed they are and how they have no free time. they had kids on purpose, mostly cause they feel it's a generic milestone they have to achieve, like marriage. it's their fault and i wish they'd shut the fuck up about it.

I don’t give a shit, also you’re whining right here

so are you by your own logic i guess.

You literally just prefaced a whine by saying you weren’t whining

dude, you're whining RIGHT NOW. just stop posting lol.

Lol, are you that assmad that I pointed out you’re whiny?

you made a comment bitching about people with kids. i agreed with said comment. you are now engaging in a strange, pointless argument with the person who agreed with you, trying to win over who is more whiney.

what mental illness is this?

I wasn’t even bitching about people with kids, lol. Maybe it’s literacy you’re thinking of?

idk dude, but i've never seen someone on reddit start attacking the only person in the thread who agreed with their stupid opinion.

i'd just like to know what kind of mental illness you have.

Literacy, it’s when you see words and they translate into thoughts. Thoughts are those things that are like headaches, but with pictures

ok sweety.

Sweaty*

No but, some responsibilities are never fun. Being an adult isn't a cakewalk.

Mu equity

Muh oppression.

muh boobs

Press em ahaist the glass!!! We smoke as we flip the bird.

Some never become one

Being an adult is obsolete and oppressive

Lets all just identify at 6 year old girls

r/anime_irl

N-no... Sempai! Baka! I cannot hold hands with you I'm too young!

This but unironically

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E Q U A L I T Y

Lol Dailymail is good at baiting their retard rightwing readers

As someone who identifies as an aquatic ape who despises right wing retards:

division of labor is good. Reproduction is no exception.

despises right wing retards

autism

ok

keep yourself extra safe seriousposter

Hammer is down and holster is closed. Thanks for the heads up.

It's not retarded. It concludes that women can't deal with as much work as men. The OP journalist just intepreted it a bit more woke.

It is oh so very retarded:

Highlights

  • Workhours are not uniformly bad for mental health but have a distinct tipping point.

  • Because women's time is constrained they have lower workhour-health thresholds.

  • Current work hour regulations and expectations are disadvantaging women's health.

  • For men and women to equally share care, workhour limits will need to be lowered.

What's retarded about that? That's the result of their research. Do you not like facts?

hahahaha

Current work hour regulations and expectations are disadvantaging women's health.

that's not a result.

For men and women to equally share care, workhour limits will need to be lowered.

that's not a result.

Do you not like facts?

do you know what facts are LMFAO

Of course those are results. If women can only take 34 hours of work and men can take 50, 40 hour work weeks disadvantage women's health but not men's.

But you're probably one of those guys that believe academics are marxist shills, so idk why I'm even arguing with you 😊

I don't believe that.

I know it!

When your feelings can't deal with facts

When your feelings can't deal with facts, you become a social scientist.

Or you invent conspiracy theories how the people whose literal job is to find out facts are actually evily lefty shills 🤔

conspiracy theories

like the patriarchy conspiracy LMFAO

I'm a scientist btw so better behave or I will send you to the gulag.

sad for you: your power is limited to college tribunals

For now. But our time will come, we've already brainwashed the youth.
Soon you will bow before your Marxist overlords.

But our time will come, we've already brainwashed the youth.

Too late, this is Generation Zyklon, they're already revolting against your ideology.

I'm in STEM,

so you're not intentionally lying about the social sciences, you just don't know how they do their "research"

Their research hurts my feelings so it's actually Bullshit! All my favourite high school drop out youtubers say so!

yaaaaawn

So as an employer, why wouldn't I hire (or at least be willing to pay more for) employees that can actually manage a full-time work week without burning out?

I'd think you would.

Working (((part-time))) is a globalist conspiracy.

The best part is the methodology. Think for a minute how they surveyed all those people, they did a face to face interview with each individual (correct me if I’m wrong), and gave them a mental health questionnaire. Look at how those questions are worded first off, I’m sure they could have created more appropriately worded questions than what they had. Then let’s think about the social differences between men and women when sharing their feelings. Men are less inclined to share how they actually feel than women are. Remember how it is an interview? If I were surveyed, I wouldn’t want to make myself look like a washed up idiot who can’t control their thoughts, so I may try to make myself look more favorable.

But aside from that, the biggest issues are: it’s an observational study, you cannot conclude causation from them; and this is representative of ONLY the population in Australia, not the US. Therefore I think that jumping to conclusions about work hours is a pretty shitty idea.

surely this will be the end of bitching about the wage gap then right

I sure hope not.

The Daily Heil would never

There is no lie on their part.

You're saying that this study isn't real and that nobody actually came to the conclusions outlined in the article?

It's just an excuse to dismiss media that often prints things that goes against the agenda.

Daily Mail?

LOL

The study itself doesn't explicitly make policy recommendations*, because studies rarely do. They just observe phenomena and report how many hours aussies need to work before they get mental breakdowns. Which it turns out is different for men and women because of differing stuff men and women do.

*Not in the abstract at least.

Health inequities... always gotta be about that.

because of differing stuff men and women do.

either that, or because women are weaker.

"or"

Wh"or"e

not weaker just better suited to different roles

better suited to less stressful jobs and shorter hours.

I think being a mom is pretty stressful, kids stress me out

haha being a mom is so easy that they let literally anyone do it.

Sorry I should have said being a *good mom is pretty stressful and requires patience that I don't have

true

Too bad it's harder to fire someone for being a shitty mom than to fire them from a real job for being a shitty worker.

Ever dad I know is glad to go back to work since they have children.

different (read: easier) roles

not easier, just different. I would find the role of being a mom to be a lot harder than my sister does.

Nah, you wouldn't. The labor of changing a diaper/feeding a kid is the exact same for everyone.

Yes I would I'd get stressed out because I'm not nearly as patient

Even though men typically work more stressful jobs, a factor that plays into the pay gap.

Maybe women just ARE NOT cut out for employment..

Earlier today I was thinking, "You know what r/drama really needs? Another insufferable seriousposter." Then I came into this thread and you were here. It's like a miracle.

Can you think about me getting some sweet, sweet bussy? I could use a miracle. I'm close to becoming an incel 😥

The fate of our subreddit now rests in JoanWayneGaycy's hands 👉🌺👈

Wow, buddy. I thought everyone was on the same page here but I guess not. If you think anything I've ever said was representative of my genuine opinion, you're not cut out for /r/drama. Maybe a place like /r/the_donald would be a better fit. When they say women underperform at all jobs despite having the benefits of blowing the manager, they really mean it.

I guess it's time for me to resign to spend more time with my wife's family

Who cares? Women can decide to work less if they want to, spoiler alert: they already do. The consequences is less pay.

The consequences is less pay.

paying women less money for doing less work? but that is sexism!

Fucking pussies.

wtf? women arn't even that useful to society yet they are gonna get burned out from normal work? Guess they'll be fucked when sexbots arrive

This study discriminates because it only studies men and women. What about all the trans people, in transition and who have already transitioned? If you transition to female, do you then reduce your hours? What if a person is half male and half female? As long as we ignore all people, we will never be inclusive...

Fuck I might lop off my man bits if it means I can have a shorter work week.

Look at this guy thinking you have to be sans-penis to be a woman.

No need

Reminds me of the Canadian man who changed his legal gender to get a lower rate on health insurance.

If this goes into effect I'm telling the government I'm a multiple personality transwomyn with five headmates. I deserve 40 hours worth of pay for 5 hours of work.

Wasn't that car insurance, not health insurance?

Woman used to pay more for health insurance in the US until the ACA prevented insurers from charging more. Car and life insurance companies are still allowed to do it, but that's because they charge men more.

Correct, I was thinking car but I don't know why I said health.

everyone knows trannies arent capable of anything

What about all the trans people, in transition and who have already transitioned?

PUNISH THEM

Remind me why the suicide rate for men is exponentially higher than that of all these "overworked" womens?

Rate is lower FYI.

Turns out "OD-ing" on aspirin isn't all that effective.

No it's not. The rate is much higher. Women have more "attempts", but that factors in all that attention seeking "cry for help" bullshit.

Also, daily reminder that killing yourself makes you a bitch and also means you're going to hell.

Nah. Suicide is a human right

If you are dead you don't have rights.

Youre usually not dead when comm8ting suicide

Your body has property rights.

Once that body is dead your ass is public domain.

Public Domain is for copyright, you’re looking for eminent domain.

Thank you

Where are cannibal restaurants then?

Thats the most retarded shit I ever heard. So when somebody dies without a will, their dead body gets to continue to live in that house for eternity?

No the house has its own property rights.

I totally agree that you have the right to puss out and burn in hell.

Hell doesnt exist.

What are you scared to go to hell you little bitch?

I'd rather live in paradise with my loved ones. But hey, different strokes for different folks!

What a faggot.

christian heaven never seemed all that appealing. everything fun is a sin, i doubt they let you do coke and bang hookers all day up there.

You also have to hang out with Christians all day.

Also, daily reminder that killing yourself makes you a bitch and also means you're going to hell

Didn't that luther guy (Not the black one) change that? He was angry at the catholics for sending everyone to hell so he made his own church where everyone went to heaven.

That Luther guy was an inconsistent anti-Semitic joke and his followers have turned their backs on God.

There is only one Church. Anabaptists are a joke.

This, but entirely unironically.

and also with you and with your spirit

I wasn't being ironic

Man's suicide attempt: puts bullet in own head

Woman's suicide attempt: drank an extra glass of wine

Men are better at suicide

Men are better at suicide

Let's not beat around the bush when we can beat around the bussy.

exponentially

Literally comparing 1 number with 1 other number...

exponentially

..

confused by hyperbole

Drama poster status confirmed.

hyperbole

The choice of curve wasn't the issue.

k

He’s not wrong though, there is an exponent function that connects any two values.

He could also have called it a quantum-difference, would be just as accurate.

They have children relying on them.

e·qual·i·ty

əˈkwälədē/

noun

the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.

When did equally=special treatment?

When one class of people perform objectively worse in every possible category.

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Not wrong.

Nah it's wrong

Yeah. He said so. It's wrong, because sensitivities.

No because racism and antisemitism. I thought we were generally on the same page after that whole World War 2 thing

LOL you mean the white guys that fought the Nazis but also didn't allow blacks to eat with them until the 60's? What a cute understanding of American history you have..

Haha everyone that was born before you was terrible why are they so not as woke as us? Yeah they were racist back then. Its not like I think all white people were great I just am trying to build a consensus about how little we expect. World War 2 is an example of how little we expect but we can't even agree on that. So dont act like you are better than me or better than anyone. You are actually pathetic.

W-w-what?

Incel

I believe that's what's called equity. As opposed to equality being everyone gets the same shit, people get shit based on their personal needs. Idk I could be wrong, you are the Chad here

I feel like we need a more specific equity. All women don’t need shorter hours, people who are burning out need shorter work hours. I guarantee you there are millions of women who have it easier than some men, but they don’t need shorter hours because “they’re women”. I believe that we need specific needs for everyone

I am the Chad and you are absolutely wrong by virtue of being a woman speaking when not spoken to.

What is it like being a virgin in your 20s?

Wow buddy.. Sex is a pretty big deal for you huh? Someone not having sex is like, a massive issue for you. Why is that? Why is sex such a big thing to you? Is it because it's extremely rare for you? So rare that someone else not having it is like, something you would need to call them out for?

God damn, are you curious for a Chadcyberbully. Just take your daily insults and downvotes and get on home, you know your job!

God damn, are you curious for a Chadcyberbully.

I remember back in high school when the biggest virgins were the most concerned with sex or the lack of it. Couldn't help but draw that parallel with /u/BigOleDawggo's immediate need to think about whether or not I get laid.

you know your job!

Your wife won't let me forget!

I don't have a wife.

Not since the separation.

The fact that you wrote this out proves that your a virgin.

Yeah it sure does. You totally got me. Thanks for posting lol.

Aww incel got called out 😄

Lol, good showing here

-69 points

Nice

MisterAlexMinecraft

Minecraft

Nice

Username checks out

Default sub post checks out.

bully me chad plz

I don't take requests.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Yeah, I'm the problem for noticing things. You're the solution.

Oy vey, delete dis now goy!!!

Name checks out

Are you eating shit here? 😘

Hmm, what's going on here? Are ou being shat on like the manlet Incel you are? Wew

😂😂😂

You don’t get it, they mean equality of outcome.

If man and women work, they must work up to the same outcome - in finances and in their mental status, so if man can work 8 hours and be moderately tired, but woman can only work 6 and tired the same way, she should stop. And also get the same money as the man working for 8 hours.

Where have you been it’s fucking 2018.

Yes and I should get a gold medal in the 100m dash because I get just as tired as the professional runners after 20m

EVERYONE GETS A GOLD MEDAL!!!1111

This Is sarcasm right

The line between sarcasm and progressivism is a blurry one.

This must be sarcasm. the Where have you been it's fucking 2018 makes me 99% sure

For me it is, however I can’t say the same for edgy progressives.

Thank God lol I'm glad your fully sane

Did you actually read the article? It doesn’t say women don’t have the same stamina as men, but that we tend to burn out more easily because we often have to take on significantly more responsibility than men. Maintaining a home, caring for children, and working full time jobs on top of it. How is that equality?

As a person who was raised in a two parent household who’s father was the primary caregiver while also working full time- this is pandering.

Pandering to whom? As you’re a person who grew up on Earth, it’s pretty difficult not to assume you’re being disingenuous if you claim not to know that women are the primary caregivers in a household significantly more often than men. Bravo for your father, that rocks, but the fact that some men are primary caregivers doesn’t change the statistics.

What statistics? I love stats

Awesome info! I also found this article about the increased involvement of dads in children raising over the past few generations. Super great info.

That's great, thanks for sharing! Though I think we still have a ways to go, I'm glad to see things are getting better in our corner of the world. :)

I did and understood perfectly. Maybe I'm just tougher then the average woman but I still think it's bullshit.

I’m totally privileged in that regard—I don’t want to have children, I don’t put up with any bullshit from my partners when it comes to doing household work—and yet I still know what the reality is for a majority of women.

See the statistics from several industrialized countries, as well as worldwide statistics from the UN, that I posted as reply to another commenter. That’s seriously all you need to know.

So you feel like you understand the needs of the world's women based on your admittedly privileged life. Cool deal. As a non privileged woman with a five person family,two of those who have life shortening diseases and also works in a male dominated job,I think it's bullshit.

Yes, as a privileged woman, I recognize how lucky I am, and actually give a shit about others’ circumstances. It’s called empathy.

Also, there’s not much I can say if you choose not read or believe the stats I provided, but I think national and international census data is pretty much all the proof you need. If you’re not willing to at least debate the facts presented with alternative data, there’s not really anywhere to go from here.

Honey,your from a whole other world and you can only empathize so much. Reading about and being a underprivileged person are two completely different things. I've read about aveation but I'm not stupid enough to try and tell a pilot how to fly.

Yeah, I’m a high school dropout who has worked my ass off to build a career to support myself and put my little sister through college, while also doing my best to take care of my mother, who is a bipolar heroin addict. You don’t know me, and you’re assumptions are fucking offensive.

Unlike you who has made HUGE assumptions on behalf of the female gender based on reading a few articles and some stats,I've just used your own provided info.

Now, I've just finished my chores and I really must go lay down and recover lol

Wait a minute, you’re still going to try treat me like garbage now that you know how wrong you were about me? You’re the one who claimed you I “come from a whole other world” and have a lazy lifestyle. Decency doesn’t seem to be in your vocabulary.

And regarding the stats, that’s just some hard data to see how much more work women have to do raising families and running households than men. You think none of the women in my family or any of my friends go through this shit? Give me a break.

I wouldn't exactly call it treating you like garbage I'm just not agreeing with you. If that throws you into a fit that's not my problem. I'm not going to agree with you just because your getting hot about it.

Yeah, that’s not the issue—I provided you with more info that any decent person would see as an “oh shit, sorry about that” moment, but you just kept arguing instead.

I'll save my oh shit,I'm sorry about that's for times when I mean it. Again, I'm not going to tell you you're right,just because you seem to be having a breakdown about my disagreeing with you. I have three kids and I don't fold for their fits either. Deal with it.

Haha, you’re a little lost here—I’m not “getting hot”, just calling you out for being a jerk. We veered off of the original subject a while ago, and I don’t think you can really “disagree” with my situation. It is what it is, it’s hard as shit, and I deal with it. When I said I’m privileged, I didn’t mean I’m some fancy pants rich asshole (ok, I’ll grant you I’m kind of a fancy pants not-rich asshole ;) with no hardship in my life, just that I have some specific privileges that I’ve gain through hard work and certain life choices.

Sure doll face,what ever you want to tell yourself.

Well, now I don’t even know what you’re talking about, so I guess that’s wrap. Genuinely hope you get some low stress time to yourself if you need it, and that you have a good day.

I agree with equal pay for equal work, but are we going to include equal stress? Equal overtime demands? Equal time away from family? Equal workplace injuries and deaths?

If you can't stand the heat go back to the kitchen

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's almost as if there are biological differences between the sexes that were the reason for the societal differences between the sexes.

It’s almost as gender dimorphism is one of the most effective approaches ever used by evolution on the fucking planet Earth.

That would be discrimination against men. OH WAIT, apparently that doesn't exist.

fucking lol i can't tell if the DailyMail is satire or not at this point

does anyone actually believe this

She needs to be compensated. You dont see men fluffing decorative pillows for hours.

I fluff for hours on set

As much as the media whines about trolling, they seem to be doing much of it themselves.

It doesn't matter, it's a tabloid.

If you click on it they are satisfied, doesn't matter if you believe it or like it or hate it. That's why they sensationalize some boring study.

the healthy working week for women should be limited to 34 hours, compared to 47 hours for men

Ok, but if you want to work 72% of the hours I do, you'd better not expect to make more than 72% of my salary...

I don't like your name 😨

Sorry sweaty, no can do! We gotta close that wage gap somehow!

oh nos

lmao holy shit so women can fuck me up with a sexual harrassment accusation at work and on top of that now I have to compensate them for shit hey don't do at the office or just give them less hours? They are just becoming more and more employable!

I will say it again: if shit is so dire, why won't women start their own companies?

so women can fuck me up with a sexual harrassment accusation at work

lol as if you have a job or have ever interacted with a woman that isn't your mom

Omg roastie be gone

roastie

this is how i know i'm right

lol watch the "totally not incels, I swear" of /r/drama reee over this article

You right now

(You have to go back)

Did you get your shitty memes mixed up? That is for MDE degenerates. You have to use the SJW memes on me friendo

Can you give me some SJW memes please

Pls no cyber bully with dank snw memes

What anime is this originally from?

Top tier animeme

I'm not an incel. I gave up on dating awhile back and have decided to go my own way.

  1. People are fucking boring to talk to. I would rather be working (day trading crypto), shitposting on reddit, watching Netflix, etc.

  2. The only thing I ever got out of a relationship was sex and affection. I don't understand the hype. Your girlfriend is not a special snowflake. People chemically bond to people they are sexually attracted to. That's it. I can chemically bond with literally any decent looking woman who is nice to me. That's "love". Oxytocin and dopamine. If you want dopamine so bad, there's something called the dark net markets where you can buy drugs. There's something called cough syrup in an everyday pharmacy that will fuck you up in high doses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z09lYqdxqzo

    You need food to survive. You don't need sex to survive. It's called jacking off my dude. Adults don't need affection to survive (apparently babies do or whatever). People with sexual market value don't give their affections freely. You have to be useful to them in some way. Men are pussy beggars so they give sex and affection out very freely. Women don't have to work for it. So women have all the leverage here. They can demand your resources. My last gf was not materialistic at the time that we dated (she started being materialistic after she dumped me because then I think she realized that simps were willing to buy her shit). But she was an emotional vampire with Borderline Personality Disorder (a lot of women have Cluster B personality disorders) who demanded a big chunk of my time and wanted me to give her attention to feed her narcissistic ego. And wanted me to treat her like she was the most beautiful woman on earth or something and that I couldn't live without her or whatever. If you want to be mentally intoxicated that bad, get fucked up on cough syrup. The world is not a Disney fairytale. You are not a special snowflake. Neither am I. You should see the things that my ex-girlfriend admitted to me about her new boyfriend while she was drunk. lmao. She admitted that she didn't love him even though he said he loved her. That's why you liberals virtue signal for starving homeless people from your child slave labour-made conflict mineral blood diamond iPhones while telling incels they are entitled for wanting sex. lmao. You need food, you don't need sex.

  3. Women are so needy. They want you to text them regularly. Talk on the phone with them. Then once they have sex with Chad, they pretend like you never even existed and they never loved you. Women will chemically bond with you. And then when they find a genetically superior male who provides her with all this excitement and takes her on an adventure, she will no longer have those gina tingles for you anymore. It hurts me to remember how my last gf did me that way. But at the end of the day, it was just basic biology on both ends. She was the best I could looks-wise without paying for it, this is why my brain tricked me into thinking I loved the bitch. And women can get fucked by literal Chads on demand so they will never fucking love you. At least not for long.

If you're not Chad and you believe your wife/girlfriend loves you, yous a cuck. If this tall cocky successful Chad tatted low-inhibition badboy white rapper with a big cock approached her https://i.imgur.com/Udg5GYb.jpg, you think your girl would be faithful to you? ROFL There's nothing stopping your girl from having sex with Chad or Tyrone. And that's NEVER going to change. No matter how much you vote for Trump and think that is magically going to change the clock. Tradcon women never loved their husbands. They always wanted Chad. And with the sexual revolution, their sexuality is unleashed in free market sexual capitalism. Ancapistan but with genitals.

r/incels are complaining about nothing. Complaining about not being Chad is like complaining about not being a billionaire. Life is unfair. Life is an injustice. That's why most of the world is in poverty.

Fuck bitches, get money. Money is literally the most important thing in life. Other than health. Like my nigga Drake says, "All I care about is money and the city that I'm from".

You can use all the shaming language you want. You have nothing of value to offer me. The social contract that society hands over to men is fucking bullshit. Be a citizen-slave in exchange for what exactly? A couple warm wet holes, some affection and "social acceptance". Oh and possible divorce rape losing half your shit, paying out child support and paying out alimony for life. The terms of that trade aren't worth it. Normies are boring as shit. I don't receive any dopamine when I listen to some normie talk about his life and his problems. But I get a hit of dopamine when I trigger SJWs on reddit. So I have no incentive to honor that social contract.

After you normies wage slave for the man, you logon to reddit to make fun of people you think you are better than in order to feel better about your shit wage cuck life and the fact that you can't satisfy your wife/girlfriend the way her bull Tyrone can with your average penis.

Inshallah

Fukken saved. Epic pasta is epic.

Do you think it's fresh?

My guess anywhere between 2 years and 2 months old. In 2018 that's considered old, but not decomposing yet.

my favorite part is the picture of the pretty boy fag lookin dude who they said was a "chad" lol. that isn't a chad, that is a numetal fan lookin soyboy.

yeah, now those guys are chads.

Watch the soy boy rapists complain about this study. I can do it too.

You can take my exceedingly low effort drama post and turn it around? Wow man that's pretty impressive.

When I see low effort I make sure to undercut it.

You couldn't be doing a worse job. This sub is 90% low effort post. The other 10% is when you or pizzashill sperg out.

Pizzashill predicted this.

The one true prophet of the incels, pizzashill pbuh

Let's reduce their hours back to zero and keep women out of the workplace

i now identify as a woman

From the comments on the article:

"Thise should not include the Tranys they say they are female to get shorter hours but they are not they are dudes with two balls"

Really good quality post buddy keep em coming

Might be time for me to identify as female.

NO

Not now Transphobos, can't you see the obvious advantages?

oh shit women realise they cant compete with men at working just like they cant compete against men in sports. who knew. next u will tell me the only reason women succeeded in domains such as science, business, politics is because they were paired in teams with highly qualified men.

Women succeded because they were paired with men.

That’s how it been since Phanerozoic Eon.

So according to this article men that are primary care takers can handle the stress but women that are primary caretakers can't? Also, if women are the primary care takers and deserve to work less, then that only makes sense to label men as the primary source of income and pay them more.

Feminists really just check-mated themselves with this one. They are claiming men are better and handling stress, AND they are making an argument men should be paid more than women since they should be expected to work more and support the family. Well done.

I dont know why we ever stopped believing that the best person at anything at all, in the entire world, even things like cooking and sucking cock (so Im told) will be a man.

This is bad for the pay gap.

What the shit is going on with these comments.

user reports:

1: The comments read like a CringeAnarchy thread please ban them all

No u

ur mom gay

ban all the femoid posters

Roasties are welcome to post 70% as much as men are.

you have said."on your knees when you beg of me worm" i bet we would get some extra spicy drama Mein Fuder

Bet it was a BLACK who wrote that, or worse a libcuck!

"DIS SUB IZ LIEK CRONGEANARCHY PLS B& PEEPUHL I DONT LIEK!!"

fucking cry baby cunts !!! you wanted equality ? You got it bitches....now start working over time too !!!

Because often times women are also running the house and doing all the chores. Still.

Almost like they don't belong in the full time employment outside the household 🤔

Women can do the work a man does in 3/4 the time so it makes sense. They also don’t drool all over their keyboards while at work posting on r drama and r incel.

Nope, they drool over their phones while at work posting on facebook.

I would like proof

AWWWW! Poor sweeties! Do you gals need a wittle break? Need some help there?

Femininity so fragile.

inb4 women get paid less study again.

Lmao they legitimately can't compete and it's fucking embarrassing for all of us. Margaret Thatcher would set these bitches straight. That's a woman with a work ethic and drive.