I love how feminists and experts cry about their unpaid jobs. Get your shit straight with your partner. Not my problem someone can’t balance household chores.
I encourage anyone who does "household chores" to actually bill their time. There is absolutely no way those menial tasks add up to 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. If you're a housewife, you've got it fucking made in terms of division of labor.
Yeah my mom went to walk the dogs, took a trip to the supermarket, and then expected everyone else to "contribute to the housework". Now that she's bought a roomba I'm really struggling to see when exactly all this intense labour is occurring.
Stop complaining and do it, though. Better for you to get used to it sooner rather than later, because one day you'll be living alone and it's better to know how to do your chores and be a clean individual than a fucking filthy one.
attaboy. Seriously, though. It's really not that hard. I worked 40 hours, got home and cooked/cleaned, had time for gaming, even to go out and chill. Why can men do it and not women?
This is really not a discussion about single people. The "problem" they're getting at is where in dual-income families, women with full time jobs do more housework than their partners. And yeah, that's probably not really the healthiest indicator, and bears some deeper examination.
I do and I have an 1800 annual minimum, which is ~85% of your time if you work 40 hours. But I usually work a lot more because, you're right, time very easily gets away from you.
I just bought a house. I have a dog but no roommates. As long as I clean every day for 20 minutes after I come home from work my house stays really clean.
You forget that in a workplace you will have a boss or manager to lead and designate. With roles already predetermined. A lot of housewives have to manage the house and organize and plan things out.
It's like saying the menial paperwork a whitecollar does isn't much. But it adds up.
Those housewives who are bored and write books or have weird hobbies are the ones who either have maids, no children, or are at level CEO in their household after years of finetuning a running household.
It is easy to say a mature housewife or a CEO just sit around doing nothing AFTER they have fine tuned their company.
In a workplace, you need a boss or manager because the jobs aren't ones that every normal functional adult just does in their spare time.
Single men do this shit all the time and have no issues with it.
B-but single men don't clean properly
OK so add an extra 20 mins a week to fold clothes properly etc. The single men who live like pigs don't save that much time by not cleaning shit properly, it's just personal preference (and very little difference in effort).
No, you need a boss or a manager to lead and keep the business running as efficiently and smoothly as possible. I have worked in a place with 'menial' tasks filled with high school kids and it ran awfully because they thought they didn't need management for such menial tasks. The job is just like any other job. A cleaning company is expensive for a reason.
It isn't about the single men not cleaning properly. Many can clean just fine. It is all the other small things that add up.
Firstly the workload doubles when it is two people. One has to manage the household. If we take your laundry for example. One has to make sure the supplies are constantly there. i.e. shopping. Then separate the colours and clean according to the material. I remember a couple where the girl got fucked because the guy put all her clothes at 60 degrees like he does with his. And they all shrunk. Sewing up holes in the clothes. Ironing.
Sorting into washer and turning machine on. 5min
Taking clothes out and hanging them. 15min
Ironing the clothes 30min.
Fixing, Sewing the clothes 5min (I only put 5 min because it happens so rarely, but takes more time when you have to do it.)
Folding the clothes 10min
Putting them back into closet 10min
Miscellaneous dead time, e.g. the walking, the small extra time it takes to read a new washing packet or opening and shutting the washer, cleaning the hair, reading the clothing label on a new piece of clothing etc. 10min
Totalling 1hr 25min to wash clothes. Twice a week that becomes nearly 3 hours. Or 1/3 of a work day. Just for laundry.
Now do that for every chore. Boom you have assigned tasks just like every other job that you need to manage and organize and juggle.
Out of laundry detergent. Fine. Get a new one. But you also need to get this and that too. So one has to organize the best time to get everything. Oh, now the boyfriend has sensitive skin and can only use this detergent which is slightly pricier. Look through stores finding the cheapest priced one and buy as many as you can within budget.
It isn't just a menial task. There is a lot of background planning which people don't see. Which increases a lot more when it becomes two.
Whereas a single person can just throw it in when they need to and adjust to themselves. It is a lot harder to keep things running smoothly when it is two.
I am not a housewife. But I have seen them and been in awe at how well they keep things running. It is all very easy when you are single to do shit. But add more people and it becomes a mess. Got that experience first hand when I lived with 3 other roommates who would clean whenever they felt like it. (as if they were doing their own single life). And yes this results in a lot more mess. We all had our spurts where we would try and clean the whole amounts that would accumulate from all of us, but it would take too much time and energy. It was only when we all sat down and organized a set work plan with chores and designated people to different tasks that things went running smoothly.
Just because they have down time and seem to be chilling. Doesn't mean they are not working. Just because they watch tv while sewing that shirt, doesn't mean they have some luxury life.
Single men and women do this all the time. But if it was really that menial, why wouldn't men do this all the time instead of allowing for housewives?
B-but I am tired from working all day to fund this household.
Well it is easy, menial and every normal functional adult does it right?
If that's the case? Why do people have maids and butlers and so on?
A good worker always finds work. I would assume a good house wife would spend that free time to make meals at a higher level quality that people who work will make for themselves. That she would put in the research for wholesome healthy meals. That she would get groceries as cheap as possible through well thought out budgets and planning. The house would be decorated at a higher level with research on how to give peace of mind through the atmosphere.
I am not the type of person who would ever want to be a housewife. But I assume the guys who want that and ask the wife to stay at home. Are doing so for a reason.
Sure you have gold diggers and losers who just leech off others.
But there are also those who take their jobs seriously. Women who try to make a good home and do a good job with their time.
A lot of jobs are menial, dumb, and any person can do them. But I don't see why housewives should get less respect than them due to not making the money. They are indirectly helping the guy make money by giving him more free time after work.
The whole issue with the article I assume. Are the women who are expected to do both. Work, and take care of the household and kids at a higher level than their SO.
Are all guys like this? Hell no. But there are probably quite a few. There are the older guys who are used to more conservative roles. The mamma's boys who went from house to wife and have never really taken care of themselves. So when asked to contribute, they do the halfassed job a child would do rather than an adult. There are the lazy ones, or the ignorant ones, or the manipulative ones. Or the ones who aren't even present nor take care of their children. I am assuming the women who married a man child are the ones being burnt out. Especially if they have children.
In Norway we have parental leave for both genders, both can choose whether to take the time out together or one by one. It promotes equality and shared responsibility. In America I don't even think they have parental leave. So yeah, a lot of women end up having to become housewives or work and take care of baby. Which is fucked up. Considering most people still see women as the main caretaker for children. It is no surprise that they are burned out.
My only guess is that the good guys won't see it. Because they aren't that lazy and assume that other guys can't be that shit. While the lazy guys, like the Dunning-Kruger effect, think they are amazing and their wife is a big nag and overreacting for not wanting to give their kid food with allergens. But they weren't at home reading for four hours about celliac disease like their wife did to know.
When it came to high school kids. My point was.. that it isn't only about washing the dishes or doing the laundry. It is also about managing all that. For two or more people. So yeah. Maybe she spends two hours on housework. Then 3 hours finding a better insurance company. Calling the plumber. Meeting the bank for a better loan.
Housewives are just glorified cleaning servants. They do a lot more.
If that's the case? Why do people have maids and butlers and so on?
Only a tiny number of people employ full-time servants, or if they can get dirt cheap workers (illegal immigrants in the US maybe?).
Isn't it odd that men who aren't in the top 1% want to sacrifice almost half their household income for a full-time maid?
A good worker always finds work.
Indeed.
I would assume a good house wife would spend that free time to make meals at a higher level quality that people who work will make for themselves. That she would put in the research for wholesome healthy meals. That she would get groceries as cheap as possible through well thought out budgets and planning. The house would be decorated at a higher level with research on how to give peace of mind through the atmosphere.
This all sounds like shit that women want, and makes men just roll their eyes. It's like saying "that full-time house husband is a real catch because he tinkers with the car, home wifi, and tool shed all day, their wife is so lucky". LoL.
I am not the type of person who would ever want to be a housewife. But I assume the guys who want that and ask the wife to stay at home. Are doing so for a reason.
Or women really want a pretty house, and want to spend time doing it.
How many guys will kick their wife to the curb if she extends maternity leave and eventually decides to just drop out of work entirely?
Sure you have gold diggers and losers who just leech off others.
So if a guy could just stay home playing games and maybe doing the washing up before the wife gets back, how many would? Obviously not 100% of guys are selfish dipshits. But maybe 10? What's the percent of women in modern countries who are "full time" housewives?
ah dude i tried to explain this to my ex so many times. she wouldn't do dishes after she ate, and she woudn't put things back where they belonged. i tried telling her that if she spent 5 mins a day just washing her dishes, and putting shit away, then once a week she just has to vaccuum and mop or w/e and it would take an hour or two tops. some house hold jobs don't need to be done weekly, so you keep track of how long till you've done them and do them once a month or something.
but no, her place was a fuckin sty. dishes everywhere with rotting food on them, couldn't walk on the floor without stomping on packages and containers that should be in the garbage, clothes everywhere. it took her an ENTIRE DAY once a week to clean all that shit up.
The best part, of course, is the primary driver for rhe necessity of the chores in the first place.
Like, you obsess over bullshit and then whine that you aren't getting enoigh credit for taking care of the bullshit that only you wanted to do in the first place. Nice racket, no?
Yeah, like I had a roommate in college that had a ridiculous standard when it came to whether things were clean. If you're the only one who cares about the dust behind the t.v. taking care of it doesn't count as a contribution to upkeep.
God, same here. There are already days where I finish projects early and just hang out and play Dwarf Fortress until 5. If they let me stay in the office even longer to get paid for playing ASCII games I would be all over that.
If we get rid of the gender issue, would you agree that a primary caregiver of a minor or disabled adult would be more likely to experience burnouts (whether they be a male or female) and it's in their best interest to have a shorter work week?
I guess I'm wondering if people are upset about the idea itself OR if they're upset that it's only geared towards women (and therefore sexist af)?
If we get rid of the gender issue, would you agree that a primary caregiver of a minor or disabled adult would be more likely to experience burnouts (whether they be a male or female) and it's in their best interest to have a shorter work week?
Sure, get a flexible job where you can work less hours (and not be paid for )
I don't understand how the only meaningful solution is to promote equal division of labor in the home, and not this totally unworkable and bizarre scheme.
In reality, things will always work like that to some extent anyway - the person who cares more will do more work. But it helps not to normalize lopsided housework loads, etc, so that people aren't pushed into provider/homemaker roles by outside forces, and their career doesn't suffer by association.
I want to see mandatory maternity AND paternity leave for the same reasons. The age of single-income households is basically over, and we all have to adjust.
Oh, there is plenty to do aside from immediate recovery - and parents don't need to be forced to take them at the same time. Fathers benefit from bonding with their infants too, and setting aside some time to do that seems like a good idea. Professionally, it erases some of the disadvantages that come with hiring women, while giving us dudes an extra benefit.
I dont even know where all these women doing these chores come from. Quite literally every single woman Ive ever met is proud of how she cant iron or cook anything other than chicken nuggets.
even better when they start going on about 'emotional labour' as if they're the ones in the relationship that have to constantly bend over backwards to please the inane demands of an emotionally needy partner...
i actually agree with you. this is why i don't want kids, cause i don't want to be one of those whiney people who talk about how stressed they are and how they have no free time. they had kids on purpose, mostly cause they feel it's a generic milestone they have to achieve, like marriage. it's their fault and i wish they'd shut the fuck up about it.
you made a comment bitching about people with kids. i agreed with said comment. you are now engaging in a strange, pointless argument with the person who agreed with you, trying to win over who is more whiney.
Of course those are results. If women can only take 34 hours of work and men can take 50, 40 hour work weeks disadvantage women's health but not men's.
But you're probably one of those guys that believe academics are marxist shills, so idk why I'm even arguing with you 😊
So as an employer, why wouldn't I hire (or at least be willing to pay more for) employees that can actually manage a full-time work week without burning out?
The best part is the methodology. Think for a minute how they surveyed all those people, they did a face to face interview with each individual (correct me if I’m wrong), and gave them a mental health questionnaire. Look at how those questions are worded first off, I’m sure they could have created more appropriately worded questions than what they had. Then let’s think about the social differences between men and women when sharing their feelings. Men are less inclined to share how they actually feel than women are. Remember how it is an interview? If I were surveyed, I wouldn’t want to make myself look like a washed up idiot who can’t control their thoughts, so I may try to make myself look more favorable.
But aside from that, the biggest issues are: it’s an observational study, you cannot conclude causation from them; and this is representative of ONLY the population in Australia, not the US. Therefore I think that jumping to conclusions about work hours is a pretty shitty idea.
The study itself doesn't explicitly make policy recommendations*, because studies rarely do. They just observe phenomena and report how many hours aussies need to work before they get mental breakdowns. Which it turns out is different for men and women because of differing stuff men and women do.
Earlier today I was thinking, "You know what r/drama really needs? Another insufferable seriousposter." Then I came into this thread and you were here. It's like a miracle.
Wow, buddy. I thought everyone was on the same page here but I guess not. If you think anything I've ever said was representative of my genuine opinion, you're not cut out for /r/drama. Maybe a place like /r/the_donald would be a better fit. When they say women underperform at all jobs despite having the benefits of blowing the manager, they really mean it.
This study discriminates because it only studies men and women. What about all the trans people, in transition and who have already transitioned? If you transition to female, do you then reduce your hours? What if a person is half male and half female? As long as we ignore all people, we will never be inclusive...
Reminds me of the Canadian man who changed his legal gender to get a lower rate on health insurance.
If this goes into effect I'm telling the government I'm a multiple personality transwomyn with five headmates. I deserve 40 hours worth of pay for 5 hours of work.
Woman used to pay more for health insurance in the US until the ACA prevented insurers from charging more. Car and life insurance companies are still allowed to do it, but that's because they charge men more.
Also, daily reminder that killing yourself makes you a bitch and also means you're going to hell
Didn't that luther guy (Not the black one) change that? He was angry at the catholics for sending everyone to hell so he made his own church where everyone went to heaven.
LOL you mean the white guys that fought the Nazis but also didn't allow blacks to eat with them until the 60's? What a cute understanding of American history you have..
Haha everyone that was born before you was terrible why are they so not as woke as us? Yeah they were racist back then. Its not like I think all white people were great I just am trying to build a consensus about how little we expect. World War 2 is an example of how little we expect but we can't even agree on that. So dont act like you are better than me or better than anyone. You are actually pathetic.
I believe that's what's called equity. As opposed to equality being everyone gets the same shit, people get shit based on their personal needs. Idk I could be wrong, you are the Chad here
I feel like we need a more specific equity. All women don’t need shorter hours, people who are burning out need shorter work hours. I guarantee you there are millions of women who have it easier than some men, but they don’t need shorter hours because “they’re women”. I believe that we need specific needs for everyone
Wow buddy.. Sex is a pretty big deal for you huh? Someone not having sex is like, a massive issue for you. Why is that? Why is sex such a big thing to you? Is it because it's extremely rare for you? So rare that someone else not having it is like, something you would need to call them out for?
I remember back in high school when the biggest virgins were the most concerned with sex or the lack of it. Couldn't help but draw that parallel with /u/BigOleDawggo's immediate need to think about whether or not I get laid.
If man and women work, they must work up to the same outcome - in finances and in their mental status, so if man can work 8 hours and be moderately tired, but woman can only work 6 and tired the same way, she should stop. And also get the same money as the man working for 8 hours.
Did you actually read the article? It doesn’t say women don’t have the same stamina as men, but that we tend to burn out more easily because we often have to take on significantly more responsibility than men. Maintaining a home, caring for children, and working full time jobs on top of it. How is that equality?
Pandering to whom? As you’re a person who grew up on Earth, it’s pretty difficult not to assume you’re being disingenuous if you claim not to know that women are the primary caregivers in a household significantly more often than men. Bravo for your father, that rocks, but the fact that some men are primary caregivers doesn’t change the statistics.
I’m totally privileged in that regard—I don’t want to have children, I don’t put up with any bullshit from my partners when it comes to doing household work—and yet I still know what the reality is for a majority of women.
See the statistics from several industrialized countries, as well as worldwide statistics from the UN, that I posted as reply to another commenter. That’s seriously all you need to know.
So you feel like you understand the needs of the world's women based on your admittedly privileged life. Cool deal. As a non privileged woman with a five person family,two of those who have life shortening diseases and also works in a male dominated job,I think it's bullshit.
Yes, as a privileged woman, I recognize how lucky I am, and actually give a shit about others’ circumstances. It’s called empathy.
Also, there’s not much I can say if you choose not read or believe the stats I provided, but I think national and international census data is pretty much all the proof you need. If you’re not willing to at least debate the facts presented with alternative data, there’s not really anywhere to go from here.
Honey,your from a whole other world and you can only empathize so much. Reading about and being a underprivileged person are two completely different things. I've read about aveation but I'm not stupid enough to try and tell a pilot how to fly.
Yeah, I’m a high school dropout who has worked my ass off to build a career to support myself and put my little sister through college, while also doing my best to take care of my mother, who is a bipolar heroin addict. You don’t know me, and you’re assumptions are fucking offensive.
Unlike you who has made HUGE assumptions on behalf of the female gender based on reading a few articles and some stats,I've just used your own provided info.
Now, I've just finished my chores and I really must go lay down and recover lol
Wait a minute, you’re still going to try treat me like garbage now that you know how wrong you were about me? You’re the one who claimed you I “come from a whole other world” and have a lazy lifestyle. Decency doesn’t seem to be in your vocabulary.
And regarding the stats, that’s just some hard data to see how much more work women have to do raising families and running households than men. You think none of the women in my family or any of my friends go through this shit? Give me a break.
I wouldn't exactly call it treating you like garbage I'm just not agreeing with you. If that throws you into a fit that's not my problem. I'm not going to agree with you just because your getting hot about it.
Yeah, that’s not the issue—I provided you with more info that any decent person would see as an “oh shit, sorry about that” moment, but you just kept arguing instead.
I'll save my oh shit,I'm sorry about that's for times when I mean it. Again, I'm not going to tell you you're right,just because you seem to be having a breakdown about my disagreeing with you. I have three kids and I don't fold for their fits either. Deal with it.
Haha, you’re a little lost here—I’m not “getting hot”, just calling you out for being a jerk. We veered off of the original subject a while ago, and I don’t think you can really “disagree” with my situation. It is what it is, it’s hard as shit, and I deal with it. When I said I’m privileged, I didn’t mean I’m some fancy pants rich asshole (ok, I’ll grant you I’m kind of a fancy pants not-rich asshole ;) with no hardship in my life, just that I have some specific privileges that I’ve gain through hard work and certain life choices.
Well, now I don’t even know what you’re talking about, so I guess that’s wrap. Genuinely hope you get some low stress time to yourself if you need it, and that you have a good day.
I agree with equal pay for equal work, but are we going to include equal stress? Equal overtime demands? Equal time away from family? Equal workplace injuries and deaths?
lmao holy shit so women can fuck me up with a sexual harrassment accusation at work and on top of that now I have to compensate them for shit hey don't do at the office or just give them less hours? They are just becoming more and more employable!
I will say it again: if shit is so dire, why won't women start their own companies?
I'm not an incel. I gave up on dating awhile back and have decided to go my own way.
People are fucking boring to talk to. I would rather be working (day trading crypto), shitposting on reddit, watching Netflix, etc.
The only thing I ever got out of a relationship was sex and affection. I don't understand the hype. Your girlfriend is not a special snowflake. People chemically bond to people they are sexually attracted to. That's it. I can chemically bond with literally any decent looking woman who is nice to me. That's "love". Oxytocin and dopamine. If you want dopamine so bad, there's something called the dark net markets where you can buy drugs. There's something called cough syrup in an everyday pharmacy that will fuck you up in high doses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z09lYqdxqzo
You need food to survive. You don't need sex to survive. It's called jacking off my dude. Adults don't need affection to survive (apparently babies do or whatever). People with sexual market value don't give their affections freely. You have to be useful to them in some way. Men are pussy beggars so they give sex and affection out very freely. Women don't have to work for it. So women have all the leverage here. They can demand your resources. My last gf was not materialistic at the time that we dated (she started being materialistic after she dumped me because then I think she realized that simps were willing to buy her shit). But she was an emotional vampire with Borderline Personality Disorder (a lot of women have Cluster B personality disorders) who demanded a big chunk of my time and wanted me to give her attention to feed her narcissistic ego. And wanted me to treat her like she was the most beautiful woman on earth or something and that I couldn't live without her or whatever. If you want to be mentally intoxicated that bad, get fucked up on cough syrup. The world is not a Disney fairytale. You are not a special snowflake. Neither am I. You should see the things that my ex-girlfriend admitted to me about her new boyfriend while she was drunk. lmao. She admitted that she didn't love him even though he said he loved her. That's why you liberals virtue signal for starving homeless people from your child slave labour-made conflict mineral blood diamond iPhones while telling incels they are entitled for wanting sex. lmao. You need food, you don't need sex.
Women are so needy. They want you to text them regularly. Talk on the phone with them. Then once they have sex with Chad, they pretend like you never even existed and they never loved you. Women will chemically bond with you. And then when they find a genetically superior male who provides her with all this excitement and takes her on an adventure, she will no longer have those gina tingles for you anymore. It hurts me to remember how my last gf did me that way. But at the end of the day, it was just basic biology on both ends. She was the best I could looks-wise without paying for it, this is why my brain tricked me into thinking I loved the bitch. And women can get fucked by literal Chads on demand so they will never fucking love you. At least not for long.
If you're not Chad and you believe your wife/girlfriend loves you, yous a cuck. If this tall cocky successful Chad tatted low-inhibition badboy white rapper with a big cock approached her https://i.imgur.com/Udg5GYb.jpg, you think your girl would be faithful to you? ROFL There's nothing stopping your girl from having sex with Chad or Tyrone. And that's NEVER going to change. No matter how much you vote for Trump and think that is magically going to change the clock. Tradcon women never loved their husbands. They always wanted Chad. And with the sexual revolution, their sexuality is unleashed in free market sexual capitalism. Ancapistan but with genitals.
r/incels are complaining about nothing. Complaining about not being Chad is like complaining about not being a billionaire. Life is unfair. Life is an injustice. That's why most of the world is in poverty.
Fuck bitches, get money. Money is literally the most important thing in life. Other than health. Like my nigga Drake says, "All I care about is money and the city that I'm from".
You can use all the shaming language you want. You have nothing of value to offer me. The social contract that society hands over to men is fucking bullshit. Be a citizen-slave in exchange for what exactly? A couple warm wet holes, some affection and "social acceptance". Oh and possible divorce rape losing half your shit, paying out child support and paying out alimony for life. The terms of that trade aren't worth it. Normies are boring as shit. I don't receive any dopamine when I listen to some normie talk about his life and his problems. But I get a hit of dopamine when I trigger SJWs on reddit. So I have no incentive to honor that social contract.
After you normies wage slave for the man, you logon to reddit to make fun of people you think you are better than in order to feel better about your shit wage cuck life and the fact that you can't satisfy your wife/girlfriend the way her bull Tyrone can with your average penis.
my favorite part is the picture of the pretty boy fag lookin dude who they said was a "chad" lol. that isn't a chad, that is a numetal fan lookin soyboy.
oh shit women realise they cant compete with men at working just like they cant compete against men in sports. who knew. next u will tell me the only reason women succeeded in domains such as science, business, politics is because they were paired in teams with highly qualified men.
So according to this article men that are primary care takers can handle the stress but women that are primary caretakers can't? Also, if women are the primary care takers and deserve to work less, then that only makes sense to label men as the primary source of income and pay them more.
Feminists really just check-mated themselves with this one. They are claiming men are better and handling stress, AND they are making an argument men should be paid more than women since they should be expected to work more and support the family. Well done.
I dont know why we ever stopped believing that the best person at anything at all, in the entire world, even things like cooking and sucking cock (so Im told) will be a man.
Women can do the work a man does in 3/4 the time so it makes sense. They also don’t drool all over their keyboards while at work posting on r drama and r incel.
Lmao they legitimately can't compete and it's fucking embarrassing for all of us. Margaret Thatcher would set these bitches straight. That's a woman with a work ethic and drive.
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1 ShadowXPhoenixX 2018-06-07
...and soon militant third wave feminists will be telling that The Patriarchy made this up to keep women down...lol
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1 TheVman2 2018-06-07
maybe if women can't work they shouldn't.
It's time we send women to concentration camp. So they can concentrate and focus on work
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-06-07
I thought it was the kitchen.
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-06-07
Yes, the burden single woman living alone have, compared single men living alone, justifies paying men less for working longer hours.
Also the study said women should work 34 hrs, and men 47. 34/47= 70%, so maybe paying women 77% of their male counterparts, is too much.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-06-07
I love how feminists and experts cry about their unpaid jobs. Get your shit straight with your partner. Not my problem someone can’t balance household chores.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-07
It's White Jimbocide.....for women.
1 broden 2018-06-07
...And That's A Good Thing.
1 Frantiktakyon 2018-06-07
and its T E R R I F Y I N G
1 shannibearstar 2018-06-07
SAHMs are even worse about it.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-07
It's le full time jerb!!
Meanwhile they're completely up to date on every TV show and have the luxury of shopping during weekdays
1 Logios 2018-06-07
Don't you know? Being a SAHM is equivalent to working 52,987,423 full time jobs a day.
1 shannibearstar 2018-06-07
Gotta be a nurse, teacher, life coach, nutritionist, personal driver, artist, caretaker, chef, manager, and literally any job ever
1 DinosSuck 2018-06-07
Gotta put the Frozen DVD in the DVD player like every day. It's fucking rough.
1 MacAndShits 2018-06-07
You can solve that by having at least two children. Seriously, my sister wanted to watch the same DVD every goddamn morning
1 rokety_roket 2018-06-07
https://youtu.be/Hitc8haEu_g
1 DinosSuck 2018-06-07
I encourage anyone who does "household chores" to actually bill their time. There is absolutely no way those menial tasks add up to 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. If you're a housewife, you've got it fucking made in terms of division of labor.
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-06-07
My mom was a stay at home. Looking back I’m amazed. House clean, meals done, and then she’d just work on her stained glass hobby or garden for hours.
And when my dad got home it was always, “I cleaned alllll dayyyyy.”
1 telandrias 2018-06-07
Of course she did, women are delicate flowers that can't handle responsibilities or timely work -feminists 2020
1 G_reth 2018-06-07
My mom was stay at home, but she was constantly working.
1 Awayfone 2018-06-07
My mom was stay at home, but she was constantly sleeping. (After staying up all night)
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-06-07
Yeah my mom went to walk the dogs, took a trip to the supermarket, and then expected everyone else to "contribute to the housework". Now that she's bought a roomba I'm really struggling to see when exactly all this intense labour is occurring.
1 Called_U_A_Fag 2018-06-07
Tell her off lol. Maybe your dad will hook you up with something nice.
1 redmugofcoffee 2018-06-07
GOD MOM YOU’RE SO LAZY WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THE DISHES? MAKE THE ROOMBA DO THEM REEEE
1 Creiz 2018-06-07
Stop complaining and do it, though. Better for you to get used to it sooner rather than later, because one day you'll be living alone and it's better to know how to do your chores and be a clean individual than a fucking filthy one.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-06-07
I do live alone and I keep my house perfectly clean. It's hardly a full-time job.
1 Creiz 2018-06-07
attaboy. Seriously, though. It's really not that hard. I worked 40 hours, got home and cooked/cleaned, had time for gaming, even to go out and chill. Why can men do it and not women?
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-07
This is really not a discussion about single people. The "problem" they're getting at is where in dual-income families, women with full time jobs do more housework than their partners. And yeah, that's probably not really the healthiest indicator, and bears some deeper examination.
Of course, their "solution" is ludicrous.
1 ExilesReturn 2018-06-07
Let's see those baseboards and ceiling fans friend.
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-06-07
Do this at your paid job and see how many hours you spend on non-value-adding tasks. Most people work like 50% of the hours they "work."
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
Except they are getting paid for it by someone outside of of the house and they still need to be there.
1 DinosSuck 2018-06-07
I do and I have an 1800 annual minimum, which is ~85% of your time if you work 40 hours. But I usually work a lot more because, you're right, time very easily gets away from you.
1 Called_U_A_Fag 2018-06-07
The daytime network TV line up is all the proof you need for this lol.
1 Ganymede31 2018-06-07
I just bought a house. I have a dog but no roommates. As long as I clean every day for 20 minutes after I come home from work my house stays really clean.
1 im-a-koala 2018-06-07
Shit I clean my apartment for 30 minutes every weekend and it honestly looks pretty great.
1 joie0867 2018-06-07
You’re just spouting ignorance if you’ve never been a homemaker.
1 msmurasaki 2018-06-07
You forget that in a workplace you will have a boss or manager to lead and designate. With roles already predetermined. A lot of housewives have to manage the house and organize and plan things out.
It's like saying the menial paperwork a whitecollar does isn't much. But it adds up.
Those housewives who are bored and write books or have weird hobbies are the ones who either have maids, no children, or are at level CEO in their household after years of finetuning a running household.
It is easy to say a mature housewife or a CEO just sit around doing nothing AFTER they have fine tuned their company.
1 wisty 2018-06-07
In a workplace, you need a boss or manager because the jobs aren't ones that every normal functional adult just does in their spare time.
Single men do this shit all the time and have no issues with it.
OK so add an extra 20 mins a week to fold clothes properly etc. The single men who live like pigs don't save that much time by not cleaning shit properly, it's just personal preference (and very little difference in effort).
1 msmurasaki 2018-06-07
No, you need a boss or a manager to lead and keep the business running as efficiently and smoothly as possible. I have worked in a place with 'menial' tasks filled with high school kids and it ran awfully because they thought they didn't need management for such menial tasks. The job is just like any other job. A cleaning company is expensive for a reason.
It isn't about the single men not cleaning properly. Many can clean just fine. It is all the other small things that add up.
Firstly the workload doubles when it is two people. One has to manage the household. If we take your laundry for example. One has to make sure the supplies are constantly there. i.e. shopping. Then separate the colours and clean according to the material. I remember a couple where the girl got fucked because the guy put all her clothes at 60 degrees like he does with his. And they all shrunk. Sewing up holes in the clothes. Ironing.
Sorting into washer and turning machine on. 5min Taking clothes out and hanging them. 15min Ironing the clothes 30min. Fixing, Sewing the clothes 5min (I only put 5 min because it happens so rarely, but takes more time when you have to do it.) Folding the clothes 10min Putting them back into closet 10min Miscellaneous dead time, e.g. the walking, the small extra time it takes to read a new washing packet or opening and shutting the washer, cleaning the hair, reading the clothing label on a new piece of clothing etc. 10min
Totalling 1hr 25min to wash clothes. Twice a week that becomes nearly 3 hours. Or 1/3 of a work day. Just for laundry.
Now do that for every chore. Boom you have assigned tasks just like every other job that you need to manage and organize and juggle.
Out of laundry detergent. Fine. Get a new one. But you also need to get this and that too. So one has to organize the best time to get everything. Oh, now the boyfriend has sensitive skin and can only use this detergent which is slightly pricier. Look through stores finding the cheapest priced one and buy as many as you can within budget.
It isn't just a menial task. There is a lot of background planning which people don't see. Which increases a lot more when it becomes two.
Whereas a single person can just throw it in when they need to and adjust to themselves. It is a lot harder to keep things running smoothly when it is two.
I am not a housewife. But I have seen them and been in awe at how well they keep things running. It is all very easy when you are single to do shit. But add more people and it becomes a mess. Got that experience first hand when I lived with 3 other roommates who would clean whenever they felt like it. (as if they were doing their own single life). And yes this results in a lot more mess. We all had our spurts where we would try and clean the whole amounts that would accumulate from all of us, but it would take too much time and energy. It was only when we all sat down and organized a set work plan with chores and designated people to different tasks that things went running smoothly.
Just because they have down time and seem to be chilling. Doesn't mean they are not working. Just because they watch tv while sewing that shirt, doesn't mean they have some luxury life.
Single men and women do this all the time. But if it was really that menial, why wouldn't men do this all the time instead of allowing for housewives?
Well it is easy, menial and every normal functional adult does it right?
1 wisty 2018-06-07
The difference being that working takes 8 hours every day. Housework takes ... what ... 2 hours if you're completely anal?
1 msmurasaki 2018-06-07
If that's the case? Why do people have maids and butlers and so on? A good worker always finds work. I would assume a good house wife would spend that free time to make meals at a higher level quality that people who work will make for themselves. That she would put in the research for wholesome healthy meals. That she would get groceries as cheap as possible through well thought out budgets and planning. The house would be decorated at a higher level with research on how to give peace of mind through the atmosphere.
I am not the type of person who would ever want to be a housewife. But I assume the guys who want that and ask the wife to stay at home. Are doing so for a reason.
Sure you have gold diggers and losers who just leech off others.
But there are also those who take their jobs seriously. Women who try to make a good home and do a good job with their time.
A lot of jobs are menial, dumb, and any person can do them. But I don't see why housewives should get less respect than them due to not making the money. They are indirectly helping the guy make money by giving him more free time after work.
The whole issue with the article I assume. Are the women who are expected to do both. Work, and take care of the household and kids at a higher level than their SO.
Are all guys like this? Hell no. But there are probably quite a few. There are the older guys who are used to more conservative roles. The mamma's boys who went from house to wife and have never really taken care of themselves. So when asked to contribute, they do the halfassed job a child would do rather than an adult. There are the lazy ones, or the ignorant ones, or the manipulative ones. Or the ones who aren't even present nor take care of their children. I am assuming the women who married a man child are the ones being burnt out. Especially if they have children.
In Norway we have parental leave for both genders, both can choose whether to take the time out together or one by one. It promotes equality and shared responsibility. In America I don't even think they have parental leave. So yeah, a lot of women end up having to become housewives or work and take care of baby. Which is fucked up. Considering most people still see women as the main caretaker for children. It is no surprise that they are burned out.
My only guess is that the good guys won't see it. Because they aren't that lazy and assume that other guys can't be that shit. While the lazy guys, like the Dunning-Kruger effect, think they are amazing and their wife is a big nag and overreacting for not wanting to give their kid food with allergens. But they weren't at home reading for four hours about celliac disease like their wife did to know.
When it came to high school kids. My point was.. that it isn't only about washing the dishes or doing the laundry. It is also about managing all that. For two or more people. So yeah. Maybe she spends two hours on housework. Then 3 hours finding a better insurance company. Calling the plumber. Meeting the bank for a better loan.
Housewives are just glorified cleaning servants. They do a lot more.
1 wisty 2018-06-07
Only a tiny number of people employ full-time servants, or if they can get dirt cheap workers (illegal immigrants in the US maybe?).
Isn't it odd that men who aren't in the top 1% want to sacrifice almost half their household income for a full-time maid?
Indeed.
This all sounds like shit that women want, and makes men just roll their eyes. It's like saying "that full-time house husband is a real catch because he tinkers with the car, home wifi, and tool shed all day, their wife is so lucky". LoL.
Or women really want a pretty house, and want to spend time doing it.
How many guys will kick their wife to the curb if she extends maternity leave and eventually decides to just drop out of work entirely?
So if a guy could just stay home playing games and maybe doing the washing up before the wife gets back, how many would? Obviously not 100% of guys are selfish dipshits. But maybe 10? What's the percent of women in modern countries who are "full time" housewives?
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
ah dude i tried to explain this to my ex so many times. she wouldn't do dishes after she ate, and she woudn't put things back where they belonged. i tried telling her that if she spent 5 mins a day just washing her dishes, and putting shit away, then once a week she just has to vaccuum and mop or w/e and it would take an hour or two tops. some house hold jobs don't need to be done weekly, so you keep track of how long till you've done them and do them once a month or something.
but no, her place was a fuckin sty. dishes everywhere with rotting food on them, couldn't walk on the floor without stomping on packages and containers that should be in the garbage, clothes everywhere. it took her an ENTIRE DAY once a week to clean all that shit up.
god she was a fucking retard.
1 telandrias 2018-06-07
I live out of my truck "chores" are a personal decision
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-07
The best part, of course, is the primary driver for rhe necessity of the chores in the first place.
Like, you obsess over bullshit and then whine that you aren't getting enoigh credit for taking care of the bullshit that only you wanted to do in the first place. Nice racket, no?
1 aqouta 2018-06-07
Yeah, like I had a roommate in college that had a ridiculous standard when it came to whether things were clean. If you're the only one who cares about the dust behind the t.v. taking care of it doesn't count as a contribution to upkeep.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-07
I spent a total of 6 days last year just raising and lowering the goddamn toilet seat. The struggle is real.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
As an hourly rate contractor, I would LOOOOOOOVE to work 47 hours a week. 20% pay raise? Yes, please!
1 TrailerParkBride 2018-06-07
God, same here. There are already days where I finish projects early and just hang out and play Dwarf Fortress until 5. If they let me stay in the office even longer to get paid for playing ASCII games I would be all over that.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
I would say that 35-39 hours of my work week is spent surfing reddit and shitposting in /r/drama.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
Livin' the dream.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
Seems like it until you're on reddit enough to realize it's all the same recycled bullshit over and over and over.
1 ason 2018-06-07
I don't believe anyone has posted a tasteful shot of your gaping boyhole yet. Be the change you want to see in the world.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
Fuck off, JWG.
1 michgot 2018-06-07
That's why I play MMOs. No raiding though because impromptu meetings are a thing.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
I would if they'd let me work from home. That's what I used to did with WoW many years ago.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
Im ok with recycled drama.
1 telandrias 2018-06-07
Five years of redditing at an office job. It's always drama.
1 jimmahdean 2018-06-07
Same, I have ~3 hours of work every day starting at 6, done by 9 but reddit until 4.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
fukn, what job, i want it.
1 niczar 2018-06-07
You too??
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-06-07
#MeToo
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-06-07
"""(((experts)))"""
1 aqouta 2018-06-07
"""Experts"""
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-06-07
"We've determined that we deserve to get paid more for fewer hours" ~Unbiased Expert
1 JustAntha 2018-06-07
If we get rid of the gender issue, would you agree that a primary caregiver of a minor or disabled adult would be more likely to experience burnouts (whether they be a male or female) and it's in their best interest to have a shorter work week?
I guess I'm wondering if people are upset about the idea itself OR if they're upset that it's only geared towards women (and therefore sexist af)?
1 poeandfinn 2018-06-07
I'm totally fine with them having a shorter base workweek, but they should be payed a lower salary to compensate
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-06-07
I don't think if I had an employee, that I had to pay them for doing their own chores.
1 JustAntha 2018-06-07
I'm not talking about that at all.
1 Awayfone 2018-06-07
Sure, get a flexible job where you can work less hours (and not be paid for )
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-07
I don't understand how the only meaningful solution is to promote equal division of labor in the home, and not this totally unworkable and bizarre scheme.
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
Why would you promote equal division if men and women might value state of their house differently so they have different motivation to do housework?
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-07
In reality, things will always work like that to some extent anyway - the person who cares more will do more work. But it helps not to normalize lopsided housework loads, etc, so that people aren't pushed into provider/homemaker roles by outside forces, and their career doesn't suffer by association.
I want to see mandatory maternity AND paternity leave for the same reasons. The age of single-income households is basically over, and we all have to adjust.
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
Why mandatory? Dad didn’t went into labour and doesn’t have a tity for toddler to suck.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-07
Oh, there is plenty to do aside from immediate recovery - and parents don't need to be forced to take them at the same time. Fathers benefit from bonding with their infants too, and setting aside some time to do that seems like a good idea. Professionally, it erases some of the disadvantages that come with hiring women, while giving us dudes an extra benefit.
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
When will you learn that modern “equality” is anything for you but extra benifits?
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-07
Having time to spend with your newborn is a pretty good benefit, yeah.
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
Who do you think is going to pay for it?
1 Aivias 2018-06-07
I dont even know where all these women doing these chores come from. Quite literally every single woman Ive ever met is proud of how she cant iron or cook anything other than chicken nuggets.
1 dirtysundae 2018-06-07
even better when they start going on about 'emotional labour' as if they're the ones in the relationship that have to constantly bend over backwards to please the inane demands of an emotionally needy partner...
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
Just say that arguing about this is also an emotional labour and they should have some emotional rest.
1 The_DHC 2018-06-07
This rare juggling skill is also known as "being an adult".
uggggg adulting, amirite ladies?
sips wine
1 0987654231 2018-06-07
For centuries the only career women could go into was baby making
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-06-07
fuckin' bankers hours
1 TheEnglishman28 2018-06-07
Are banker hours misogynist and further proof of the patriarchy?
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-06-07
bankerette, how bout dat
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-06-07
And they routinely fucked it up too
1 MacAndShits 2018-06-07
Fucking is surprisingly easy to fuck up
1 Oooch 2018-06-07
Literally one job for most of human history and not even that good at it on average
1 AegisValyrian 2018-06-07
jesus
1 DontBanMeBaby 2018-06-07
I'd rather raise a child in the 1500th century rather than working the plows in the field or going to a fucking war
1 better_bot 2018-06-07
Yeah, but then you have to fuck 15th century men.
1 DontBanMeBaby 2018-06-07
Who doesnt
1 BassKozak 2018-06-07
Getting plowed by a 15th century man doesn't sound bad. ;)
1 AegisValyrian 2018-06-07
enjoy that infected dick
1 aef823 2018-06-07
And the smegma
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-06-07
Not if you go for superior Muhammad cock
1 SoulLess-1 2018-06-07
It's not like the women smelled much better.
1 error404brain 2018-06-07
Women in the 15th century worked the plow too, tho.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-06-07
Yes, about 70 percent as effectively.
1 error404brain 2018-06-07
I am sure you know all about being plowed and thus are perfectly able to determine this, down to the percent.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-06-07
Not sounding centrist enough over there, I smell an agenda!
1 error404brain 2018-06-07
Broke : Not having an agenda.
W👁️KE : Having simultaneously all the agendas.
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-07
Yeah everyone has to eat shit as an adult.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
Having a full life is suddenly eating shit?
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
responsibility can feel like shit
1 DontBanMeBaby 2018-06-07
I think he's saying that nobody is excused from responsibility
1 AegisValyrian 2018-06-07
responsibility is excused by nobody
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-06-07
Did you try it? It definitely is.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
Nobody holds a gun against your head and tells you to have kids
1 Re_LE_Vant_UN 2018-06-07
You don't know my kinks
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
i actually agree with you. this is why i don't want kids, cause i don't want to be one of those whiney people who talk about how stressed they are and how they have no free time. they had kids on purpose, mostly cause they feel it's a generic milestone they have to achieve, like marriage. it's their fault and i wish they'd shut the fuck up about it.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
I don’t give a shit, also you’re whining right here
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
so are you by your own logic i guess.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
You literally just prefaced a whine by saying you weren’t whining
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
dude, you're whining RIGHT NOW. just stop posting lol.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
Lol, are you that assmad that I pointed out you’re whiny?
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
you made a comment bitching about people with kids. i agreed with said comment. you are now engaging in a strange, pointless argument with the person who agreed with you, trying to win over who is more whiney.
what mental illness is this?
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
I wasn’t even bitching about people with kids, lol. Maybe it’s literacy you’re thinking of?
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
idk dude, but i've never seen someone on reddit start attacking the only person in the thread who agreed with their stupid opinion.
i'd just like to know what kind of mental illness you have.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
Literacy, it’s when you see words and they translate into thoughts. Thoughts are those things that are like headaches, but with pictures
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
ok sweety.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-07
Sweaty*
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-07
No but, some responsibilities are never fun. Being an adult isn't a cakewalk.
1 Goatiusmaximus 2018-06-07
Mu equity
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-07
Muh oppression.
1 AegisValyrian 2018-06-07
muh boobs
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-07
Press em ahaist the glass!!! We smoke as we flip the bird.
1 SageKnows 2018-06-07
Some never become one
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-07
Being an adult is obsolete and oppressive
1 123allthekidsbullyme 2018-06-07
Lets all just identify at 6 year old girls
1 disgruntled_chode 2018-06-07
r/anime_irl
1 Creiz 2018-06-07
N-no... Sempai! Baka! I cannot hold hands with you I'm too young!
1 theivoryserf 2018-06-07
This but unironically
1 supernonsense 2018-06-07
[score hidden]
1 AegisValyrian 2018-06-07
fingerbang
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-07
E Q U A L I T Y
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2018-06-07
Lol Dailymail is good at baiting their retard rightwing readers
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
The retarded study is real though:
Hour-glass ceilings: Work-hour thresholds, gendered health inequities
1 supadik 2018-06-07
As someone who identifies as an aquatic ape who despises right wing retards:
division of labor is good. Reproduction is no exception.
1 Leftist_Degenerate 2018-06-07
ok
1 Kaladin_MemeBlessed 2018-06-07
keep yourself extra safe seriousposter
1 Leftist_Degenerate 2018-06-07
Hammer is down and holster is closed. Thanks for the heads up.
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
It's not retarded. It concludes that women can't deal with as much work as men. The OP journalist just intepreted it a bit more woke.
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
It is oh so very retarded:
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
What's retarded about that? That's the result of their research. Do you not like facts?
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
hahahaha
that's not a result.
that's not a result.
do you know what facts are LMFAO
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
Of course those are results. If women can only take 34 hours of work and men can take 50, 40 hour work weeks disadvantage women's health but not men's.
But you're probably one of those guys that believe academics are marxist shills, so idk why I'm even arguing with you 😊
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
I don't believe that.
I know it!
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
When your feelings can't deal with facts, you become a social scientist.
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
Or you invent conspiracy theories how the people whose literal job is to find out facts are actually evily lefty shills 🤔
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
like the patriarchy conspiracy LMFAO
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
I'm a scientist btw so better behave or I will send you to the gulag.
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
sad for you: your power is limited to college tribunals
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
For now. But our time will come, we've already brainwashed the youth.
Soon you will bow before your Marxist overlords.
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
Too late, this is Generation Zyklon, they're already revolting against your ideology.
so you're not intentionally lying about the social sciences, you just don't know how they do their "research"
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
yaaaaawn
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-06-07
So as an employer, why wouldn't I hire (or at least be willing to pay more for) employees that can actually manage a full-time work week without burning out?
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
I'd think you would.
1 ricksansmorty 2018-06-07
Working (((part-time))) is a globalist conspiracy.
1 Syconiimos 2018-06-07
The best part is the methodology. Think for a minute how they surveyed all those people, they did a face to face interview with each individual (correct me if I’m wrong), and gave them a mental health questionnaire. Look at how those questions are worded first off, I’m sure they could have created more appropriately worded questions than what they had. Then let’s think about the social differences between men and women when sharing their feelings. Men are less inclined to share how they actually feel than women are. Remember how it is an interview? If I were surveyed, I wouldn’t want to make myself look like a washed up idiot who can’t control their thoughts, so I may try to make myself look more favorable.
But aside from that, the biggest issues are: it’s an observational study, you cannot conclude causation from them; and this is representative of ONLY the population in Australia, not the US. Therefore I think that jumping to conclusions about work hours is a pretty shitty idea.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-07
surely this will be the end of bitching about the wage gap then right
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
I sure hope not.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-07
The Daily Heil would never
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
There is no lie on their part.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
You're saying that this study isn't real and that nobody actually came to the conclusions outlined in the article?
1 FreeThomasMair 2018-06-07
It's just an excuse to dismiss media that often prints things that goes against the agenda.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-07
Daily Mail?
LOL
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
The study is real though:
Hour-glass ceilings: Work-hour thresholds, gendered health inequities
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-06-07
The study itself doesn't explicitly make policy recommendations*, because studies rarely do. They just observe phenomena and report how many hours aussies need to work before they get mental breakdowns. Which it turns out is different for men and women because of differing stuff men and women do.
*Not in the abstract at least.
1 Chicup 2018-06-07
Health inequities... always gotta be about that.
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
either that, or because women are weaker.
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-06-07
"or"
1 LightUmbra 2018-06-07
Wh"or"e
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
not weaker just better suited to different roles
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
better suited to less stressful jobs and shorter hours.
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
I think being a mom is pretty stressful, kids stress me out
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
haha being a mom is so easy that they let literally anyone do it.
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
Sorry I should have said being a *good mom is pretty stressful and requires patience that I don't have
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
true
1 yourdeadwife 2018-06-07
Too bad it's harder to fire someone for being a shitty mom than to fire them from a real job for being a shitty worker.
1 SpotNL 2018-06-07
Ever dad I know is glad to go back to work since they have children.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
not easier, just different. I would find the role of being a mom to be a lot harder than my sister does.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Nah, you wouldn't. The labor of changing a diaper/feeding a kid is the exact same for everyone.
1 SpineEater 2018-06-07
Yes I would I'd get stressed out because I'm not nearly as patient
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Pro tip: Neither are women.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Even though men typically work more stressful jobs, a factor that plays into the pay gap.
Maybe women just ARE NOT cut out for employment..
1 Plexipus 2018-06-07
Earlier today I was thinking, "You know what r/drama really needs? Another insufferable seriousposter." Then I came into this thread and you were here. It's like a miracle.
1 lickedTators 2018-06-07
Can you think about me getting some sweet, sweet bussy? I could use a miracle. I'm close to becoming an incel 😥
1 Plexipus 2018-06-07
The fate of our subreddit now rests in JoanWayneGaycy's hands 👉🌺👈
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Wow, buddy. I thought everyone was on the same page here but I guess not. If you think anything I've ever said was representative of my genuine opinion, you're not cut out for /r/drama. Maybe a place like /r/the_donald would be a better fit. When they say women underperform at all jobs despite having the benefits of blowing the manager, they really mean it.
1 Plexipus 2018-06-07
I guess it's time for me to resign to spend more time with my wife's family
1 DontBanMeBaby 2018-06-07
Who cares? Women can decide to work less if they want to, spoiler alert: they already do. The consequences is less pay.
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-07
paying women less money for doing less work? but that is sexism!
1 orubyqncnyrubefr 2018-06-07
Fucking pussies.
1 Runecraft_TM 2018-06-07
wtf? women arn't even that useful to society yet they are gonna get burned out from normal work? Guess they'll be fucked when sexbots arrive
1 rnjbond 2018-06-07
This study discriminates because it only studies men and women. What about all the trans people, in transition and who have already transitioned? If you transition to female, do you then reduce your hours? What if a person is half male and half female? As long as we ignore all people, we will never be inclusive...
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
Fuck I might lop off my man bits if it means I can have a shorter work week.
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-07
Look at this guy thinking you have to be sans-penis to be a woman.
1 MrWalrusKing 2018-06-07
No need
1 SicSemperSocialists 2018-06-07
Reminds me of the Canadian man who changed his legal gender to get a lower rate on health insurance.
If this goes into effect I'm telling the government I'm a multiple personality transwomyn with five headmates. I deserve 40 hours worth of pay for 5 hours of work.
1 im-a-koala 2018-06-07
Wasn't that car insurance, not health insurance?
Woman used to pay more for health insurance in the US until the ACA prevented insurers from charging more. Car and life insurance companies are still allowed to do it, but that's because they charge men more.
1 SicSemperSocialists 2018-06-07
Correct, I was thinking car but I don't know why I said health.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-07
everyone knows trannies arent capable of anything
1 TRANSPHOBOS 2018-06-07
PUNISH THEM
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
Remind me why the suicide rate for men is exponentially higher than that of all these "overworked" womens?
1 mramisuzuki 2018-06-07
Rate is lower FYI.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-06-07
Turns out "OD-ing" on aspirin isn't all that effective.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-07
No it's not. The rate is much higher. Women have more "attempts", but that factors in all that attention seeking "cry for help" bullshit.
Also, daily reminder that killing yourself makes you a bitch and also means you're going to hell.
1 Saphric89 2018-06-07
Nah. Suicide is a human right
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
If you are dead you don't have rights.
1 Saphric89 2018-06-07
Youre usually not dead when comm8ting suicide
1 mramisuzuki 2018-06-07
Your body has property rights.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
Once that body is dead your ass is public domain.
1 mramisuzuki 2018-06-07
Public Domain is for copyright, you’re looking for eminent domain.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
Thank you
1 totalrandomperson 2018-06-07
Where are cannibal restaurants then?
1 Zizac 2018-06-07
Thats the most retarded shit I ever heard. So when somebody dies without a will, their dead body gets to continue to live in that house for eternity?
1 mramisuzuki 2018-06-07
No the house has its own property rights.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-07
I totally agree that you have the right to puss out and burn in hell.
1 Saphric89 2018-06-07
Hell doesnt exist.
1 froibo 2018-06-07
What are you scared to go to hell you little bitch?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-07
I'd rather live in paradise with my loved ones. But hey, different strokes for different folks!
1 froibo 2018-06-07
What a faggot.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
christian heaven never seemed all that appealing. everything fun is a sin, i doubt they let you do coke and bang hookers all day up there.
1 thetarget3 2018-06-07
You also have to hang out with Christians all day.
1 Baconlightning 2018-06-07
Didn't that luther guy (Not the black one) change that? He was angry at the catholics for sending everyone to hell so he made his own church where everyone went to heaven.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-07
That Luther guy was an inconsistent anti-Semitic joke and his followers have turned their backs on God.
There is only one Church. Anabaptists are a joke.
1 DannyLee90 2018-06-07
This, but entirely unironically.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-07
and also with youand with your spiritI wasn't being ironic
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-07
Man's suicide attempt: puts bullet in own head
Woman's suicide attempt: drank an extra glass of wine
1 Sojir 2018-06-07
Men are better at suicide
1 jubbergun 2018-06-07
Let's not beat around the bush when we can beat around the bussy.
1 ricksansmorty 2018-06-07
Literally comparing 1 number with 1 other number...
..
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
Drama poster status confirmed.
1 ricksansmorty 2018-06-07
The choice of curve wasn't the issue.
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-07
k
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
He’s not wrong though, there is an exponent function that connects any two values.
1 ricksansmorty 2018-06-07
He could also have called it a quantum-difference, would be just as accurate.
1 msmurasaki 2018-06-07
They have children relying on them.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
e·qual·i·ty
əˈkwälədē/
noun
the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.
When did equally=special treatment?
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
When one class of people perform objectively worse in every possible category.
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-07
OUT OUT OUT DIRTY IMMIGRANT
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1 siccoblue 2018-06-07
I love how you even counted the characters
1 Coleton_329 2018-06-07
Good bot
1 Ktmktmktm 2018-06-07
Not wrong.
1 ElegantHippo93 2018-06-07
Nah it's wrong
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Yeah. He said so. It's wrong, because sensitivities.
1 ElegantHippo93 2018-06-07
No because racism and antisemitism. I thought we were generally on the same page after that whole World War 2 thing
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
LOL you mean the white guys that fought the Nazis but also didn't allow blacks to eat with them until the 60's? What a cute understanding of American history you have..
1 ElegantHippo93 2018-06-07
Haha everyone that was born before you was terrible why are they so not as woke as us? Yeah they were racist back then. Its not like I think all white people were great I just am trying to build a consensus about how little we expect. World War 2 is an example of how little we expect but we can't even agree on that. So dont act like you are better than me or better than anyone. You are actually pathetic.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
W-w-what?
1 kippot 2018-06-07
Incel
1 AlyssaBuyWeedm9 2018-06-07
I believe that's what's called equity. As opposed to equality being everyone gets the same shit, people get shit based on their personal needs. Idk I could be wrong, you are the Chad here
1 ButteryChaos 2018-06-07
I feel like we need a more specific equity. All women don’t need shorter hours, people who are burning out need shorter work hours. I guarantee you there are millions of women who have it easier than some men, but they don’t need shorter hours because “they’re women”. I believe that we need specific needs for everyone
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
I am the Chad and you are absolutely wrong by virtue of being a woman speaking when not spoken to.
1 BigOleDawggo 2018-06-07
What is it like being a virgin in your 20s?
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Wow buddy.. Sex is a pretty big deal for you huh? Someone not having sex is like, a massive issue for you. Why is that? Why is sex such a big thing to you? Is it because it's extremely rare for you? So rare that someone else not having it is like, something you would need to call them out for?
1 Agent1790 2018-06-07
God damn, are you curious for a Chadcyberbully. Just take your daily insults and downvotes and get on home, you know your job!
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
I remember back in high school when the biggest virgins were the most concerned with sex or the lack of it. Couldn't help but draw that parallel with /u/BigOleDawggo's immediate need to think about whether or not I get laid.
Your wife won't let me forget!
1 Luminnn 2018-06-07
I don't have a wife.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Not since the separation.
1 skyguy25 2018-06-07
The fact that you wrote this out proves that your a virgin.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Yeah it sure does. You totally got me. Thanks for posting lol.
1 kippot 2018-06-07
Aww incel got called out 😄
1 kippot 2018-06-07
Lol, good showing here
1 MisterAlexMinecraft 2018-06-07
Nice
1 M3L0NM4N 2018-06-07
Nice
1 vickyz23 2018-06-07
Username checks out
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Default sub post checks out.
1 Spyblox007 2018-06-07
bully me chad plz
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
I don't take requests.
1 LasagneAlForno 2018-06-07
Wtf is wrong with you?
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-07
Yeah, I'm the problem for noticing things. You're the solution.
1 CowsHearMusic 2018-06-07
Oy vey, delete dis now goy!!!
1 c7336700 2018-06-07
Name checks out
1 kippot 2018-06-07
Are you eating shit here? 😘
1 kippot 2018-06-07
Hmm, what's going on here? Are ou being shat on like the manlet Incel you are? Wew
1 kippot 2018-06-07
😂😂😂
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
You don’t get it, they mean equality of outcome.
If man and women work, they must work up to the same outcome - in finances and in their mental status, so if man can work 8 hours and be moderately tired, but woman can only work 6 and tired the same way, she should stop. And also get the same money as the man working for 8 hours.
Where have you been it’s fucking 2018.
1 TheGerd44 2018-06-07
Yes and I should get a gold medal in the 100m dash because I get just as tired as the professional runners after 20m
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
EVERYONE GETS A GOLD MEDAL!!!1111
1 doobnerd 2018-06-07
This Is sarcasm right
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
The line between sarcasm and progressivism is a blurry one.
1 SunnySomeone 2018-06-07
This must be sarcasm. the Where have you been it's fucking 2018 makes me 99% sure
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
For me it is, however I can’t say the same for edgy progressives.
1 SunnySomeone 2018-06-07
Thank God lol I'm glad your fully sane
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Did you actually read the article? It doesn’t say women don’t have the same stamina as men, but that we tend to burn out more easily because we often have to take on significantly more responsibility than men. Maintaining a home, caring for children, and working full time jobs on top of it. How is that equality?
1 cowboykillerreds 2018-06-07
As a person who was raised in a two parent household who’s father was the primary caregiver while also working full time- this is pandering.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Pandering to whom? As you’re a person who grew up on Earth, it’s pretty difficult not to assume you’re being disingenuous if you claim not to know that women are the primary caregivers in a household significantly more often than men. Bravo for your father, that rocks, but the fact that some men are primary caregivers doesn’t change the statistics.
1 cowboykillerreds 2018-06-07
What statistics? I love stats
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Awesome! If you don’t know, now you know, as Biggie said:
https://www.bls.gov/tus/charts/household.htm
https://www.statista.com/statistics/521919/time-spent-housework-countries/
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/articles/womenshouldertheresponsibilityofunpaidwork/2016-11-10
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/cv.action
http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/pdf/oecd_1564_tusupdateportal-xwi1iuuuz8qklzpjsh2.xls (click the tab titled ‘Total’)
Is that enough for you?
1 cowboykillerreds 2018-06-07
Awesome info! I also found this article about the increased involvement of dads in children raising over the past few generations. Super great info.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
That's great, thanks for sharing! Though I think we still have a ways to go, I'm glad to see things are getting better in our corner of the world. :)
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
I did and understood perfectly. Maybe I'm just tougher then the average woman but I still think it's bullshit.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
I’m totally privileged in that regard—I don’t want to have children, I don’t put up with any bullshit from my partners when it comes to doing household work—and yet I still know what the reality is for a majority of women.
See the statistics from several industrialized countries, as well as worldwide statistics from the UN, that I posted as reply to another commenter. That’s seriously all you need to know.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
So you feel like you understand the needs of the world's women based on your admittedly privileged life. Cool deal. As a non privileged woman with a five person family,two of those who have life shortening diseases and also works in a male dominated job,I think it's bullshit.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Yes, as a privileged woman, I recognize how lucky I am, and actually give a shit about others’ circumstances. It’s called empathy.
Also, there’s not much I can say if you choose not read or believe the stats I provided, but I think national and international census data is pretty much all the proof you need. If you’re not willing to at least debate the facts presented with alternative data, there’s not really anywhere to go from here.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
Honey,your from a whole other world and you can only empathize so much. Reading about and being a underprivileged person are two completely different things. I've read about aveation but I'm not stupid enough to try and tell a pilot how to fly.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Yeah, I’m a high school dropout who has worked my ass off to build a career to support myself and put my little sister through college, while also doing my best to take care of my mother, who is a bipolar heroin addict. You don’t know me, and you’re assumptions are fucking offensive.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
Unlike you who has made HUGE assumptions on behalf of the female gender based on reading a few articles and some stats,I've just used your own provided info.
Now, I've just finished my chores and I really must go lay down and recover lol
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Wait a minute, you’re still going to try treat me like garbage now that you know how wrong you were about me? You’re the one who claimed you I “come from a whole other world” and have a lazy lifestyle. Decency doesn’t seem to be in your vocabulary.
And regarding the stats, that’s just some hard data to see how much more work women have to do raising families and running households than men. You think none of the women in my family or any of my friends go through this shit? Give me a break.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
I wouldn't exactly call it treating you like garbage I'm just not agreeing with you. If that throws you into a fit that's not my problem. I'm not going to agree with you just because your getting hot about it.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Yeah, that’s not the issue—I provided you with more info that any decent person would see as an “oh shit, sorry about that” moment, but you just kept arguing instead.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
I'll save my oh shit,I'm sorry about that's for times when I mean it. Again, I'm not going to tell you you're right,just because you seem to be having a breakdown about my disagreeing with you. I have three kids and I don't fold for their fits either. Deal with it.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Haha, you’re a little lost here—I’m not “getting hot”, just calling you out for being a jerk. We veered off of the original subject a while ago, and I don’t think you can really “disagree” with my situation. It is what it is, it’s hard as shit, and I deal with it. When I said I’m privileged, I didn’t mean I’m some fancy pants rich asshole (ok, I’ll grant you I’m kind of a fancy pants not-rich asshole ;) with no hardship in my life, just that I have some specific privileges that I’ve gain through hard work and certain life choices.
1 CantGetRight83 2018-06-07
Sure doll face,what ever you want to tell yourself.
1 BotoxTyrant 2018-06-07
Well, now I don’t even know what you’re talking about, so I guess that’s wrap. Genuinely hope you get some low stress time to yourself if you need it, and that you have a good day.
1 Dad-man 2018-06-07
I agree with equal pay for equal work, but are we going to include equal stress? Equal overtime demands? Equal time away from family? Equal workplace injuries and deaths?
1 CompetitiveLoiterer 2018-06-07
If you can't stand the heat go back to the kitchen
1 pointmanzero 2018-06-07
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
1 BoboOrbani55 2018-06-07
It's almost as if there are biological differences between the sexes that were the reason for the societal differences between the sexes.
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
It’s almost as gender dimorphism is one of the most effective approaches ever used by evolution on the fucking planet Earth.
1 SageKnows 2018-06-07
That would be discrimination against men. OH WAIT, apparently that doesn't exist.
1 BlindedbyOnanism 2018-06-07
Wait I thought we were supposed to work less in order to reduce the wage gap. Make up your fucking minds already.
1 Ikea_Man 2018-06-07
fucking lol i can't tell if the DailyMail is satire or not at this point
does anyone actually believe this
1 telandrias 2018-06-07
She needs to be compensated. You dont see men fluffing decorative pillows for hours.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-06-07
I fluff for hours on set
1 RelevantEmployment 2018-06-07
As much as the media whines about trolling, they seem to be doing much of it themselves.
1 ricksansmorty 2018-06-07
It doesn't matter, it's a tabloid.
If you click on it they are satisfied, doesn't matter if you believe it or like it or hate it. That's why they sensationalize some boring study.
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-06-07
It's a real study.
1 serial_crusher 2018-06-07
Ok, but if you want to work 72% of the hours I do, you'd better not expect to make more than 72% of my salary...
1 serialflamingo 2018-06-07
I don't like your name 😨
1 Crusader_1096 2018-06-07
Sorry sweaty, no can do! We gotta close that wage gap somehow!
1 Leftist_Degenerate 2018-06-07
oh nos
1 Pastelitomaracucho 2018-06-07
lmao holy shit so women can fuck me up with a sexual harrassment accusation at work and on top of that now I have to compensate them for shit hey don't do at the office or just give them less hours? They are just becoming more and more employable!
I will say it again: if shit is so dire, why won't women start their own companies?
1 d-amazo 2018-06-07
lol as if you have a job or have ever interacted with a woman that isn't your mom
1 Pastelitomaracucho 2018-06-07
Omg roastie be gone
1 d-amazo 2018-06-07
this is how i know i'm right
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-07
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
lol watch the "totally not incels, I swear" of /r/drama reee over this article
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-07
"Anyone who disagrees with me is an incel."
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
You right now
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-07
You right now
(You have to go back)
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
Did you get your shitty memes mixed up? That is for MDE degenerates. You have to use the SJW memes on me friendo
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-06-07
Can you give me some SJW memes please
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
Pls no cyber bully with dank snw memes
1 0192837465-TK1 2018-06-07
What anime is this originally from?
1 Kahina91 2018-06-07
Top tier animeme
1 shallowm 2018-06-07
I'm not an incel. I gave up on dating awhile back and have decided to go my own way.
People are fucking boring to talk to. I would rather be working (day trading crypto), shitposting on reddit, watching Netflix, etc.
The only thing I ever got out of a relationship was sex and affection. I don't understand the hype. Your girlfriend is not a special snowflake. People chemically bond to people they are sexually attracted to. That's it. I can chemically bond with literally any decent looking woman who is nice to me. That's "love". Oxytocin and dopamine. If you want dopamine so bad, there's something called the dark net markets where you can buy drugs. There's something called cough syrup in an everyday pharmacy that will fuck you up in high doses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z09lYqdxqzo
You need food to survive. You don't need sex to survive. It's called jacking off my dude. Adults don't need affection to survive (apparently babies do or whatever). People with sexual market value don't give their affections freely. You have to be useful to them in some way. Men are pussy beggars so they give sex and affection out very freely. Women don't have to work for it. So women have all the leverage here. They can demand your resources. My last gf was not materialistic at the time that we dated (she started being materialistic after she dumped me because then I think she realized that simps were willing to buy her shit). But she was an emotional vampire with Borderline Personality Disorder (a lot of women have Cluster B personality disorders) who demanded a big chunk of my time and wanted me to give her attention to feed her narcissistic ego. And wanted me to treat her like she was the most beautiful woman on earth or something and that I couldn't live without her or whatever. If you want to be mentally intoxicated that bad, get fucked up on cough syrup. The world is not a Disney fairytale. You are not a special snowflake. Neither am I. You should see the things that my ex-girlfriend admitted to me about her new boyfriend while she was drunk. lmao. She admitted that she didn't love him even though he said he loved her. That's why you liberals virtue signal for starving homeless people from your child slave labour-made conflict mineral blood diamond iPhones while telling incels they are entitled for wanting sex. lmao. You need food, you don't need sex.
Women are so needy. They want you to text them regularly. Talk on the phone with them. Then once they have sex with Chad, they pretend like you never even existed and they never loved you. Women will chemically bond with you. And then when they find a genetically superior male who provides her with all this excitement and takes her on an adventure, she will no longer have those gina tingles for you anymore. It hurts me to remember how my last gf did me that way. But at the end of the day, it was just basic biology on both ends. She was the best I could looks-wise without paying for it, this is why my brain tricked me into thinking I loved the bitch. And women can get fucked by literal Chads on demand so they will never fucking love you. At least not for long.
If you're not Chad and you believe your wife/girlfriend loves you, yous a cuck. If this tall cocky successful Chad tatted low-inhibition badboy white rapper with a big cock approached her https://i.imgur.com/Udg5GYb.jpg, you think your girl would be faithful to you? ROFL There's nothing stopping your girl from having sex with Chad or Tyrone. And that's NEVER going to change. No matter how much you vote for Trump and think that is magically going to change the clock. Tradcon women never loved their husbands. They always wanted Chad. And with the sexual revolution, their sexuality is unleashed in free market sexual capitalism. Ancapistan but with genitals.
r/incels are complaining about nothing. Complaining about not being Chad is like complaining about not being a billionaire. Life is unfair. Life is an injustice. That's why most of the world is in poverty.
Fuck bitches, get money. Money is literally the most important thing in life. Other than health. Like my nigga Drake says, "All I care about is money and the city that I'm from".
You can use all the shaming language you want. You have nothing of value to offer me. The social contract that society hands over to men is fucking bullshit. Be a citizen-slave in exchange for what exactly? A couple warm wet holes, some affection and "social acceptance". Oh and possible divorce rape losing half your shit, paying out child support and paying out alimony for life. The terms of that trade aren't worth it. Normies are boring as shit. I don't receive any dopamine when I listen to some normie talk about his life and his problems. But I get a hit of dopamine when I trigger SJWs on reddit. So I have no incentive to honor that social contract.
After you normies wage slave for the man, you logon to reddit to make fun of people you think you are better than in order to feel better about your shit wage cuck life and the fact that you can't satisfy your wife/girlfriend the way her bull Tyrone can with your average penis.
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
Inshallah
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-06-07
Fukken saved. Epic pasta is epic.
1 im-a-koala 2018-06-07
Do you think it's fresh?
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-06-07
My guess anywhere between 2 years and 2 months old. In 2018 that's considered old, but not decomposing yet.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
my favorite part is the picture of the pretty boy fag lookin dude who they said was a "chad" lol. that isn't a chad, that is a numetal fan lookin soyboy.
1 shallowm 2018-06-07
https://i.imgur.com/Og1PYhX.jpg
It's over.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-07
yeah, now those guys are chads.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
Watch the soy boy rapists complain about this study. I can do it too.
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
You can take my exceedingly low effort drama post and turn it around? Wow man that's pretty impressive.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
When I see low effort I make sure to undercut it.
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
You couldn't be doing a worse job. This sub is 90% low effort post. The other 10% is when you or pizzashill sperg out.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-06-07
Pizzashill predicted this.
1 OldOrder 2018-06-07
The one true prophet of the incels, pizzashill pbuh
1 NardDogAndy 2018-06-07
Let's reduce their hours back to zero and keep women out of the workplace
1 22333444455555666666 2018-06-07
i now identify as a woman
1 queerjihad 2018-06-07
From the comments on the article:
"Thise should not include the Tranys they say they are female to get shorter hours but they are not they are dudes with two balls"
1 lickedTators 2018-06-07
Really good quality post buddy keep em coming
1 ApacheFog 2018-06-07
Might be time for me to identify as female.
1 TRANSPHOBOS 2018-06-07
NO
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-06-07
Not now Transphobos, can't you see the obvious advantages?
1 notaltright10 2018-06-07
oh shit women realise they cant compete with men at working just like they cant compete against men in sports. who knew. next u will tell me the only reason women succeeded in domains such as science, business, politics is because they were paired in teams with highly qualified men.
1 4nurh86qn7ekybdd 2018-06-07
/r/pussypass
1 LSeww 2018-06-07
Women succeded because they were paired with men.
That’s how it been since Phanerozoic Eon.
1 LBCdaze 2018-06-07
So according to this article men that are primary care takers can handle the stress but women that are primary caretakers can't? Also, if women are the primary care takers and deserve to work less, then that only makes sense to label men as the primary source of income and pay them more.
Feminists really just check-mated themselves with this one. They are claiming men are better and handling stress, AND they are making an argument men should be paid more than women since they should be expected to work more and support the family. Well done.
1 Aivias 2018-06-07
I dont know why we ever stopped believing that the best person at anything at all, in the entire world, even things like cooking and sucking cock (so Im told) will be a man.
1 DoctorMort 2018-06-07
This is bad for the pay gap.
1 RueysSoulDiegosFight 2018-06-07
What the shit is going on with these comments.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
No u
1 Ghdust 2018-06-07
ur mom gay
1 22333444455555666666 2018-06-07
ban all the femoid posters
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-07
Roasties are welcome to post 70% as much as men are.
1 CaesarCzechReborn 2018-06-07
you have said."on your knees when you beg of me worm" i bet we would get some extra spicy drama Mein Fuder
1 imnotagayboy 2018-06-07
Bet it was a BLACK who wrote that, or worse a libcuck!
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-07
"DIS SUB IZ LIEK CRONGEANARCHY PLS B& PEEPUHL I DONT LIEK!!"
1 monaco_hodl 2018-06-07
fucking cry baby cunts !!! you wanted equality ? You got it bitches....now start working over time too !!!
1 my_lady_my_tuna 2018-06-07
Because often times women are also running the house and doing all the chores. Still.
1 FreeThomasMair 2018-06-07
Almost like they don't belong in the full time employment outside the household 🤔
1 Karlore473 2018-06-07
Women can do the work a man does in 3/4 the time so it makes sense. They also don’t drool all over their keyboards while at work posting on r drama and r incel.
1 SoulLess-1 2018-06-07
Nope, they drool over their phones while at work posting on facebook.
1 SunnySomeone 2018-06-07
I would like proof
1 onemancrimespree 2018-06-07
AWWWW! Poor sweeties! Do you gals need a wittle break? Need some help there?
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-07
Femininity so fragile.
1 aef823 2018-06-07
inb4 women get paid less study again.
1 parduscat 2018-06-07
Lmao they legitimately can't compete and it's fucking embarrassing for all of us. Margaret Thatcher would set these bitches straight. That's a woman with a work ethic and drive.