This is a nice post and all, but I'm guessing that the only reason anyone is even arguing about this because these people believe 3D is superior to 2D.
Referring to what he called “ridiculous and unfair” tariffs on U.S. imports, Trump said, “It’s going to stop — or we’ll stop trading with them. And that’s a very profitable answer, if we have to do it.”
Fucking chess master. Not trading is more profitable than trading!
Trump's a literal retard whose political beliefs are just a reflection of the last person he talked to. He's been hanging out with Kim Jong Un, so of course he thinks that a complete cessation of trade is a good idea.
Not really, we could just import food from elsewhere as we already do with a lot of produce. The reason we need to maintain domestic agriculture is national security, not price.
Yeah, importing all your food is super cheap. That’s a very good idea you just had. You are very smart. We could just import enough food for 300 million people. Brilliant.
politiks. The same reason we had cigarette subsidies. the same reason nearly every business is subsidized to some extent. Because it's a capitalist government of by and for capitalists.
Europe and Canada subsidize and sell cheap food. Africa is poor and also sell food on the cheap. We import a million other things; I don't see why food is any different.
If we imported 100% of our food and allowed our farming industry to stagnate and vanish; well if everyone suddenly stopped trading with us we’d be straight fucked. Striking a balance between import and domestic growth is key.
Not quite. Sometimes you should buy something you can produce, if it's not worth the effort.
For example, suppose Lebron James buys a giant mansion, and it takes eight hours to mow the lawn. The problem is, Lebron needs to go to work to earn millions of dollars. The value Lebron gains from mowing his lawn is less than the value Lebron gains from playing basketball, so he pays some random dude to mow his lawn.
Similarly, the US is good at making software and tanks and banking. This earns the country a lot of money. Meanwhile, sewing underwear doesn't earn the country a lot of money. Thus, collectively, the citizens of America should overwhelmingly work on fields that make a lot of money, and let Vietnam sew their underwear.
It potentially is tbf. Well the posturing, at least. With many of these countries they have such a good deal
With us that they will come to the table sooner or later where the government isn’t a barrier to entry. Essentially we hold all of the cards, but previous presidents have been owned by big money and foreign interests so it want their place to renegotiate these types of deals. Shits common sense, but reactionary mayos with TDS aren’t ever going to like anything he does imho
This article is literally fake news. Do people really fall for this shit? He literally did not say he would end all trade with allies. Are you people fucking retards?
Like clockwork, this will die down once we realize everything is just fine and then something else will pop up so you can get magic internet points from other leftist zealots by posting more dumb histrionic shit like this.
because it's literally not. the only one being dramatic here is you, as usual. you could've at least posted to some people arguing or something but no, "DADDY DID A THING" and here you are to REEEEEEEEEEEEE like clockwork.
you see in him the same kind of retard that you, yourself, are. it's like looking in a mirror for you, two fat, balding, demented retards who can't see anything beyond their own delusional rambling.
Yes that's exactly it. Probably isn't the fact he's a learning disabled ape with a large cult following of like-minded retards that are a threat to the future of my country.
yeah i hate trump plenty, but i also have a kneejerk reaction to immediately disagree with pizzashill anytime i see him say anything. i like to rile him up.
Are you advocating mercantilism? Because if you are, you're an anti-American retard.
A) I don't support mercantalism.
B) I'm a retard because I support the system of economics whose only tenent is no matter what else the only form of legal and fungible currency is of first edition CDs of The Spin Doctors breakthrough self titled album.
Listen NEET, this is good to negotiate tariffs. The US has been getting screwed for years and Trump actually offered completely free trade at the summit and Italy and a few others were on board. It's unfair to be in a giant trade deficit when you are the number one consumer power in the world. I wouldn't expect you to grasp any economic ramifications because you can't even figure out to use your dick.
Oh boy, I sure love being called a NEET by economic illiterate morons that don't understand tariffs and think the US is somehow getting the short end of the stick.
Want to know how I know you're not smart enough, educated enough, or competent enough for this to be worth my time?
It's unfair to be in a giant trade deficit when you are the number one consumer power in the world.
Right here. You don't even know what a trade deficit is. You have no idea how trade works period.
You're just a moron, getting bamboozled by another moron.
I find it funny how many people on this subreddit throw around the term "NEET" and then reveal themselves to be completely ignorant on the subject at hand.
I do like the notion that being a NEET and economic literacy are somehow mutually exclusive, like knowing what a trade deficit is somehow a requirement to be gainfully employed.
Anyone who could properly explain a trade deficit and the purpose of tariffs without screaming about the president for one goddamn minute probably has excellent amount of social skills and knowledge.
Too bad no one of that caliber exists in /r/drama or in known media outlets
It's unfair to be in a giant trade deficit when you are the number one consumer power in the world.
If you're not just trolling, which I think you probably are, it's actually completely fair for the number one consumer power in the world to have a giant trade deficit. That's what happens when you buy more than you sell.
I love when people hate on trade deficits. Yes I too complain about basically free money so other countries have the benefits of selling to my fat ass.
Have you considered the possibility that Trump is trying to change that? It's not good for an economy to be based entirely on consumption for a long time. Germany and China, for instance, have tons of value added taxes that steer their economies towards investments, which means they have tons of surpluses instead of debts. Tons of people like to shit on Trump but I've never seen anyone answer me why exactly should America continue to be a completely consumption oriented economy as compared to a number of other successful countries?
why exactly should America continue to be a completely consumption oriented economy as compared to a number of other successful countries?
Germany and China, for instance, have tons of value added taxes that steer their economies towards investments, which means they have tons of surpluses instead of debts.
You answered your own question. If a US politician so much as utters the word "tax" half the country goes in to a reeeee'ing shitstorm like it's Stalin's second coming.
I'm not American so I don't care either way. I'm just saying that your country being oriented towards consumption forever is not a plan that will work. At one point or another the rest of the world will stop trusting your ability to pay your debts back, and when that happens it will be good for the US to be more oriented towards savings and investments than consumption.
If you guys think that it's fine to keep going this way forever then you'll suffer more in the future.
So the USA has lots of money. What they don't have is lots of goods. So because the USA has more money than goods, it benefits them to swap money for goods.
This is what you and Trump don't understand. A trade deficit is not inheritently bad. It reflects that you want to buy manufacturing capacity. Do you actually want to work in a sweatshop? Those are the jobs that are outsourced. So if you want those jobs back then you need to agree to work in sweatshop condition
The US has lots of money because it acts as the world's reserve currency. This was set up in 1971 so that money would flow as investments to 3rd world countries, then flow back into the US from those 3rd world countries as investments through the US (and UK's, for instance) financial system.
This setup works as long as the world believes that the US and the dollar are "safe". Any time you get any kind of instability in the world, people will flock the dollar because it's the safest currency, and this gives the US "a lot of money". The problem with this setup is that the US is increasing its national debt rapidly. Both Obama and Trump did this, and whoever comes after Trump will likely have to continue to do it as well (if things don't go south before then).
At some point, people will start questioning if the dollar really is a safe haven and if the US really has the ability to keep up with its debt burden. When this happens and people don't trust the dollar as much anymore, it will be good for America to not be entirely reliant on consumption and to have local industries that are able to produce all sorts of things, because the buying power of the average American citizen will be decreased in comparison to what it is today.
A trade deficit is not inheritently bad.
Yes, a trade deficit with any single country isn't inherently bad. But the case with the US is that it's buying more than it's producing with multiple countries. Like I said, its economy is mostly oriented towards consumption. In the long run this isn't good.
The US "has lots of money" because it acts as the world's reserve currency. This was set up in 1971 so that money would flow as investments to 3rd world countries, then flow back into the US from those 3rd world countries as investments through the US (and UK's, for instance) financial system.
This setup works as long as the world believes that the US and the dollar are "safe". Any time you get any kind of instability in the world, people will flock the dollar because it's the safest currency, and this gives the US "a lot of money". The problem with this setup is that the US is increasing its national debt rapidly. Both Obama and Trump did this, and whoever comes after Trump will likely have to continue to do it as well (if things don't go south before then).
At some point, people will start questioning if the dollar really is a safe haven and if the US really has the ability to keep up with its debt burden. When this happens and people don't trust the dollar as much anymore, it will be good for America to not be entirely reliant on consumption and to have local industries that are able to produce all sorts of things, because the buying power of the average American citizen will be decreased in comparison to what it is today.
A trade deficit is not inheritently bad.
Yes, a trade deficit with any single country isn't inherently bad. But the case with the US is that it's buying more than it's producing with multiple countries. Like I said, its economy is mostly oriented towards consumption. In the long run this isn't good.
The USA has lots of money because they have a large population and are an advanced economy.
The reserve currency helps but they're still the world's largest group of the richest consumers. That wouldn't change whether or not the USA is the world's reserve currency. That's also not related to trade deficits.
They have an overall trade deficit but that's more than made up for with domestic GDP. The USA has shit loads of money and don't want to do really shitty manufacturing jobs. So they use that money to pay other countries to do those horrible jobs.
The reserve currency helps but they're still the world's largest group of the richest consumers. That wouldn't change whether or not the USA is the world's reserve currency. That's also not related to trade deficits.
We just disagree. I don't think you understand economics enough to be having this discussion with me.
Feeling is pretty mutual. If we're talking about the standard understanding of economics then you agree with Trump. Any acceptable economist thinks he's a fucking moron. Which he is.
My argument in regards to your lack of understanding of economics, though, has to do with the fact that you don't seem to understand how money flows work, and not necessarily with the fact that you disagree with Trump.
The fact you're bringing up the world reserve currency without mentioning the word petrodollar is not impressing me.
Every single mainstream advocates for free trade. Trump is massively opposed to that. What are you talking about? There just isn't a school of economists that advocate for what Trump advocates for.
I'm talking rates not raw numbers, obviously the total imports would amount to a trade deficit. I'm saying as the number one consumer of goods we have the highest buying power. It doesn't make sense to be fucked over by high tariffs unless we reciprocate. Or we can just go total free trade.
So why should the EU put up with unreasonable tariffs that they have for years? How is that fair at all? We negotiate a fair or equal rate and the US retaliates that's retarded.
That's the only thing I ever went to that libcuck echo chamber. But that must mean constantly to you. What I said was true so not BTFO by anyone. Especially those Democucks
No you didn't you fucking mongoloid. You linked drivel cutting out the rest of the data and tried to frame it in a way that supported your pre-existing delusion.
Gen Z is more diverse than any generation. Frank N. Magid estimates that Gen Z is 55% Caucasian, 24% Hispanic, 14% African American, 4% Asian and 4% mixed race or other. He also states that Gen Z exhibits positive feelingsabout ethnic diversity in the U.S. and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions. This makes them more sympathetic to movements regarding racism, such as Black Lives Matter, and less tolerant for institutionalized discrimination against different religions, ethnic groups or immigrants.
Generation Z is more liberal in areas like marijuana legalization, and transgenderissues, according to a study done by The Gild. 56% of 13-to-20-year-olds said that they knew someone who went by gender neutral pronouns such as “they,” “them,” or “ze,” compared to 43% of people aged 28 to 34 years old, according to the results of the Innovation Group’s major new study. Over a third of Gen Z respondents also strongly agreed that gender did not define a person as much as it used to. This figure dropped to 23% among Millennials who were 28 and up.
75% of Gen Z support same sex marriage. They’re more likely to have grown up around same sex parents, and therefor don’t see this as unusual—or illegal.
76% are concerned about global warming. This makes sense considering the amount of environmental disasters they’ve witnessed so far, including the 2013 Colorado forest fires (most destructive wildfire in history,) tornado in Joplin, Missouri in 2011 (single deadliest tornado in US history since advent of modern weather forecasting,) the flooding devastating Mississippi river valley (one of largest and most damaging floods recorded in past century,) and much more.
It has been reported that Generation Z are, “the least likely to believe that there is such a thing as the American Dream.”
Having grown up bombarded by mass shootings in their own country, and terrorist attacks overseas, this generation more likely supports gun control.
Gen Z has nothing in common with the GOP. That's just a talking point they jumped on, something they fed to stupid people. Hint: that's you.
I conceded socially liberal yes but far more fiscally conservative. That was my argument. Imagine thinking gay marriage and weed riles up Republicans anymore.
Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. Most of the country is "fiscally conservative" including most Democrats.
The GOP is not the party of fiscal conservatism. They're the party of "spend a lot while also reducing revenue."
Hillary Clinton, for example, is a fiscal conservative. As is most of the democratic party. Claiming someone being "fiscally conservative" means they're a republican displays you just aren't very educated on the subject.
The only time you went and you managed to come off more fucking retarded sounding than some of the biggest pearl clutching morons on the entire site. You got owned, you’re a NEET, liberals live in your head rent free and you’re still purple-faced buttmad about it.
I know this is /r/drama, but damn dude, why in gods name do you even have a strong opinion before actually learning even the ABC's of international trade? You outed yourself as a near illiterate here.
Whats there to discuss with a dipshit who don't even comprehend high school level education?
I was just answering your question, the original link works fine for me. A few months ago every imgur link that wasn't direct was fucked for everyone on mobile and that's why the bot exists.
1.) It makes the improvement under Trump's administration look less impressive.
2.) Stock prices reflect contingent claims on the revenue of companies, which in aggregate should be expected to rise at the same rate of growth as the economy. This growth is compounding so log-linear best allows for inter-temporal comparison.
Even still, a 10% change in unemployment from 4% to 3.6% will look smaller than a 10% change in unemployment from 10% to 9%. Graphing unemployment in log would reflect the changes more clearly from year to year, just as that would for stocks
Long term evidence is that if you tell me GDP Y in period T I can tell you that in period T+t it will look something like Y*(1.04)t. There is no such relationship for unemployment. Changes in it do depend upon the absolute value in the last period, especially if near the Keynsian lower bound which I think is the case in the US, but not in such an explicit way and with reference to other structural figures.
What this boils down to is graphing them in their respective ways lets you draw straight lines most often.
If you find specialist discussion in the wild anywhere on Reddit it's more likely to be coming from a source of some authority. But /r/Economics is especially bad. Maybe the worst.
The joke was that the bad part of the bush years, not his whole two terms, was because of Obama according to trumptards, why would trumptards give credit for good years to obummer?
I mean if you're worried about the economy and you live in Mexico then youre probably doing bettering than everyone else who has to worry about their corpse being chopped up and hung from an overpass or which donkey to fuck.
Just Guatemalans. Not all of Central America is shitty, Costa Rica is a safe and developed country with a really vibrant culture and lotsa natural wonders.
Are you even going to try to defend this economic illiteracy? How's it feel to be so indoctrinated, so under the spell of tribalism that you'll pretend Trump isn't a moron.
If there’s ever no hope for the situation, just sit back and watch them collapse into their dependent minds when its truly shown how fucked over we’ve become due to his negligence. Stop warning your idiot friends and family members about dangers like “Nigerian princes” and “free credit scores” and let natural selection weed out the bad seeds. They need to fall a few times before they’ll learn anything
You know I keep hearing how bad this is, but no one is saying why. Countries protect their industries but expect ours to bend over. Fuck that. Either we have really free trade or we play tit for tat.
Because there's no point. It's like trying tot each a rat physics or something.
I've been down this road with you enough times to know it's a waste of my time trying to tell you anything because you're a walking dunning kruger effect.
So when a country has subsidies they are literally giving you money. This is free money. If fucking over the working class wasn't a winning move then Republicans never would have won an election.
God I wish I was being paid to make fun of the most prolific lolcow in recent years, quite possibly in all of American history!
Wait, you know what, I thought of something sad: we never were able to see the impulsive thoughts of powerful lolcows throughout history. They lived and died able to maintain the illusion that they weren't complete idiots, with a few exceptions like Nero and that one lady in Pompeii who learned publicly that she was so unlikable that she lost her boyfriend to bussy.
It's comforting that Trump is out there being loud and shit because he just attracts the absolute dumbest people on the planet who seem to think they're intelligent for mocking him. It's the easy joke that every idiot can make, Durrr I'm smarter than the prezidin. u don't understand trade!!!! EPIC
Yes indeed, because everyone know being rich means you understand macro economics.
Sure, the economists, you know, the actual people that do in fact understand this say he's wrong, but dude, Trump is rich!
I honestly can't even imagine being this fucking stupid. Like how do you even tie your own shoes if you think being wealthy means you understand economics?
This is awesome. It's like you care, but you don't. I can see why r/drama values your insight so much. You voting Chuck E. Cheese in 2020? There may be game tokens in it for you.
I honestly want you to get help. You're either literally insane or you're a senile old person. I don't even think you're intelligent enough to comprehend how stupid you are.
Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
Looks like he got a few pointers on diplomacy from Kim Kong In.
Seriously though why haven't I woken up from this dream yet? I've been stuck in this absurd and logically impossible nightmare timeline for like 16 months now and still haven't woken up so I can laugh and say "thank god literally none of that happened."
Are there any defenses of this statement anywhere beyond the trite “triggering the Europeans” crap? Do trump supporters on Reddit actually think it’s realistic to stop trading with Europe if they don’t do what trump says?
I’m just trying serious post and cut through the shit. I’d imagine that it’s all uniform delusion out tin the trumposphere but I’m curious if there’s any real thought about it.
Trump refused to release his tax returns and lost a libel suit against a reporter who said he was worth $250 because he refused to actually prove he was a billionaire.
Q: Now Mr. Trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties?
A: I try.
Q: Have you ever been not truthful?
A: My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and feelings, even my own feelings but I try.
Q: Let me just understand that a little bit. Let's talk about that for a second. You said that the net worth goes up and down based on your own feelings?
A: Yes ....[29]
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I know pizzashill can't help being pizzashill but you fuckers could definitely choose not to upvote this shit. Content vote ranking systems were a mistake.
fyi, if anyone else complained about this they would immediately be called a daddy supporter by /u/Ed_ButteredToast and his ilk. i've seen it happen way too many times.
I think they alternated between calling me a reactionary racist and an SRS posting SJW enough that I've reached a point where I get to claim true centrism.
It's almost the plot of MW2: where the US loses to Russia until the player stops them, and MW3: where the EU loses to Russia until the player stops them.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-10
This is a nice post and all, but I'm guessing that the only reason anyone is even arguing about this because these people believe 3D is superior to 2D.
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1 RyuunDragon 2018-06-10
Either this bot is programmed to respond to certain words with certain copypasta or this is really someone's alt
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-10
This is 24d chess he's playing, of course you wouldn't understand it
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Fucking chess master. Not trading is more profitable than trading!
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-10
You've got to stop obsessing about the tangerine man, it's really not healthy and get you nowhere
1 gilmore606 2018-06-10
wow this
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
A) Baiting Trumptards into arguments they can't win is not obsessing.
B) It gets me everywhere. It's like turning on a deer feeder and sitting up in my tower waiting for the magatards to show up.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-10
Whatever you have to tell yourself, I prefer the femoid hating pizzashill tbh
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
It's ok to make fun of 70 yr twatter spergIng retards
1 KittehDragoon 2018-06-10
Fake news.
Daddy is 71.
1 error404brain 2018-06-10
>Imagine liking someone because of their political positions.
You need to ensure your personnal safety posthaste.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-10
Do you mean his persAnal safety?
1 grungebot5000 2018-06-10
it’s literally the same seriousposting style either way though
pizzashill is one of our most consistent posters
1 FirearmThrowaway 2018-06-10
I think you are legit special needs bro.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Really, or am I just so far above your head it looks that way?
1 UmmahSultan 2018-06-10
Trump's a literal retard whose political beliefs are just a reflection of the last person he talked to. He's been hanging out with Kim Jong Un, so of course he thinks that a complete cessation of trade is a good idea.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
Hopefully Kim can get Trump to see the innate beauty and power of Jauche.
1 MacAndShits 2018-06-10
Which is German for liquid cattle shit
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-10
The word is juche
1 MacAndShits 2018-06-10
Close enough then
1 tunicaintima 2018-06-10
The world is jauche
1 cherryreddit 2018-06-10
Why does German have a word for liquid cattle shit???
1 cannem420 2018-06-10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapric
1 MacAndShits 2018-06-10
Not just one, but multiple depending on where you are
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-10
Trump is literally turning into a spiritual chink.
1 BrotherToaster 2018-06-10
The yellow fever claims another victim.
1 rhiehn 2018-06-10
JUCHE GANG
1 TruthPains 2018-06-10
I want him to stop. I want him to show just how much of a genius he really is. The farmers and manufactures will praise him for the move.
1 Bigwooddeck 2018-06-10
American farmers are, by and large, welfare queens
1 ErictheRedding 2018-06-10
It’s the American people that are all welfare queens. Without farm subsidies food prices would be higher.
1 Bigwooddeck 2018-06-10
Not really, we could just import food from elsewhere as we already do with a lot of produce. The reason we need to maintain domestic agriculture is national security, not price.
1 ErictheRedding 2018-06-10
Yeah, importing all your food is super cheap. That’s a very good idea you just had. You are very smart. We could just import enough food for 300 million people. Brilliant.
It’s price, not national security.
1 solastsummer 2018-06-10
Why do you think we have farming subsidies?
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-10
politiks. The same reason we had cigarette subsidies. the same reason nearly every business is subsidized to some extent. Because it's a capitalist government of by and for capitalists.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
I'm sure if the agriculture industry was owned by the workers, they would suddenly decide to stop extorting the people.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
Europe and Canada subsidize and sell cheap food. Africa is poor and also sell food on the cheap. We import a million other things; I don't see why food is any different.
1 shirtboxers 2018-06-10
If we imported 100% of our food and allowed our farming industry to stagnate and vanish; well if everyone suddenly stopped trading with us we’d be straight fucked. Striking a balance between import and domestic growth is key.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
good
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-10
You can't run a country on IT workers and college students shit posting exclusively.
1 ErictheRedding 2018-06-10
I’m sure you don’t.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
I'm pretty sure a continent doesn't have a uniform policy as well.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-10
the point of trade is to import shit you can't produce in bulk, not to expend your resources importing the stuff you can produce.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
Not quite. Sometimes you should buy something you can produce, if it's not worth the effort.
For example, suppose Lebron James buys a giant mansion, and it takes eight hours to mow the lawn. The problem is, Lebron needs to go to work to earn millions of dollars. The value Lebron gains from mowing his lawn is less than the value Lebron gains from playing basketball, so he pays some random dude to mow his lawn.
Similarly, the US is good at making software and tanks and banking. This earns the country a lot of money. Meanwhile, sewing underwear doesn't earn the country a lot of money. Thus, collectively, the citizens of America should overwhelmingly work on fields that make a lot of money, and let Vietnam sew their underwear.
The academic term is comparative advantage.
1 AntifaSarqueefian 2018-06-10
It's a matter of national security / stability AND price.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-10
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-10
Without Military spending comprising half the government budget, everything would be higher. And no coffee and bananas (or chocolate).
1 Wenge03 2018-06-10
Now you know why he's been bankrupt so many times.
1 Morgan-CR 2018-06-10
Not losing anything is better than losing but ok
1 nanonan 2018-06-10
It's worse for them.
1 Dropperneck 2018-06-10
It potentially is tbf. Well the posturing, at least. With many of these countries they have such a good deal With us that they will come to the table sooner or later where the government isn’t a barrier to entry. Essentially we hold all of the cards, but previous presidents have been owned by big money and foreign interests so it want their place to renegotiate these types of deals. Shits common sense, but reactionary mayos with TDS aren’t ever going to like anything he does imho
1 telandrias 2018-06-10
He's a global warming hero!
1 r4chan-cancer 2018-06-10
One color uno.
1 CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 2018-06-10
This article is literally fake news. Do people really fall for this shit? He literally did not say he would end all trade with allies. Are you people fucking retards?
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-10
Are you? How did you not realize that was a shitpost
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-10
1 Singulaire 2018-06-10
Is it any wonder /r/drama voted for him?
1 lickedTators 2018-06-10
Yes I come to r/drama to stay up to date on current events. I'm very upset when someone posts a fake news article. How dare he.
1 CulturalYogurt 2018-06-10
Yes, but consensually
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
1D tic tac toe.
1 headasplodes 2018-06-10
This isn't drama. Or are you planning ahead; did you know that you'd sperg out when people told you this isn't drama thus creating drama?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
How is a literal retard trying to start international trade wars not drama?
1 headasplodes 2018-06-10
Because it's boring.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
TIL a moron attacking allies and trying to start trade wars isn't drama and boring.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-10
It is tbh. Now if someone was sleeping with someone or someone called someone a racial slur it might be more interesting.
1 Helicoptersinpublic 2018-06-10
Like clockwork, this will die down once we realize everything is just fine and then something else will pop up so you can get magic internet points from other leftist zealots by posting more dumb histrionic shit like this.
1 nanonan 2018-06-10
The globalists are aligned against America though.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-06-10
Lets flood /r/drama's front page with furry pics then.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-10
Furries agreeing with each other isn't drama you retard.
1 automatic_chuck 2018-06-10
Go blow a mosque or something, pal.
1 SpotNL 2018-06-10
If it was boring, why click on the comments? Why not just click on a less boring post?
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
because it's literally not. the only one being dramatic here is you, as usual. you could've at least posted to some people arguing or something but no, "DADDY DID A THING" and here you are to REEEEEEEEEEEEE like clockwork.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Just an FYI, this is drama, actual drama. The leader of the united states being an economic illiterate out to start trade wars is drama.
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
just an fyi, no, no it isn't. some retard saying a thing might happen is not drama just because it makes you buttblasted.
you being a spastic retard in these comments? now, THAT'S drama.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
It's drama. You just don't know what drama is.
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
i think i know why you hate trump so much, pizza.
you see in him the same kind of retard that you, yourself, are. it's like looking in a mirror for you, two fat, balding, demented retards who can't see anything beyond their own delusional rambling.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Yes that's exactly it. Probably isn't the fact he's a learning disabled ape with a large cult following of like-minded retards that are a threat to the future of my country.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 rockidol 2018-06-10
Wait so the president threatening trade wars isn’t drama but pizzasill posting about is? Must be hard to talk with Trumps dick in your mouth
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
lol calling pizzashill a retard now means i'm a trump supporter
the absolute state of r/drama
1 rockidol 2018-06-10
No saying Trump threatening to cut off all trade ISNT drama but pizzashill IS makes you a Trump supporter, that or you don’t know what drama is
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
lol idiot
1 rockidol 2018-06-10
I missed that you called him an idiot. My bad. But still him making those threats is actual news.
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
yeah i hate trump plenty, but i also have a kneejerk reaction to immediately disagree with pizzashill anytime i see him say anything. i like to rile him up.
1 siskonaut 2018-06-10
Clearly he is the one being riled up here.
1 siskonaut 2018-06-10
It's literally a dramatic event that potentially holds consequences for people around the globe. Classic drama material.
1 wootfatigue 2018-06-10
It’s leader of the free world, not just the states.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-10
What other countries are the free world? Britganistan? Fransyria?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
Madagascar.
1 error404brain 2018-06-10
It's the french caliphate fam.
1 kippot 2018-06-10
1 wootfatigue 2018-06-10
1 kippot 2018-06-10
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
HAHA gotem!
1 wootfatigue 2018-06-10
No u.
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
Not clicking that. What now, cuck?
1 telandrias 2018-06-10
Someone call nute gunray. Has anyone gassed the ambassadors yet?
1 WorkRedditHooray 2018-06-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
1 shivering 2018-06-10
Holy shit lmao
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
Imagining fucking economic policy so badly you can't Mercantalism right?
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
Are you advocating mercantilism? Because if you are, you're an anti-American retard.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
A) I don't support mercantalism.
B) I'm a retard because I support the system of economics whose only tenent is no matter what else the only form of legal and fungible currency is of first edition CDs of The Spin Doctors breakthrough self titled album.
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
So you're like 30+? Ewwwww
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
https://i.imgur.com/DEkBaru_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-10
This is beautifully subtle bait.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
😈😈
1 Helicoptersinpublic 2018-06-10
No dude. You're drama.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
Not surprised you'd be this retarded. Lol.
1 d-amazo 2018-06-10
o i am laffin
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
https://i.imgur.com/zKSsExY.jpg
1 Matues49 2018-06-10
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/062/427/2f7.jpg
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-10
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
Dude the state of drama memes lmao
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
Post bussy
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
Dude Post bussy lmao
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
It's not a meme. Do it, queer.
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
Butt why
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
Otherwise you'll be banned
1 Yiin 2018-06-10
dude memebans lmao 😎
1 snallygaster 2018-06-10
A leader threatening to cut off all trade with their allies is pretty fucking dramatic tho.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
Or funny. Depends on perspective.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
DUDE NO U SPERG LMAO
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-10
IM NOT ANGRY!!!!! #YOU'RE ANGRY!!!!!!!!
1 OldOrder 2018-06-10
> This agenda post is bad because it's not my agenda
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
Oh no my guy is starting shit.
Move along folks nothing to see here.
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
The real drama is in the comments
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
As W predicted. Subhannallah
1 Scummy_mofo 2018-06-10
omg my sides
1 automatic_chuck 2018-06-10
DADDY 😭😭😭
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
Listen NEET, this is good to negotiate tariffs. The US has been getting screwed for years and Trump actually offered completely free trade at the summit and Italy and a few others were on board. It's unfair to be in a giant trade deficit when you are the number one consumer power in the world. I wouldn't expect you to grasp any economic ramifications because you can't even figure out to use your dick.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Oh boy, I sure love being called a NEET by economic illiterate morons that don't understand tariffs and think the US is somehow getting the short end of the stick.
Want to know how I know you're not smart enough, educated enough, or competent enough for this to be worth my time?
Right here. You don't even know what a trade deficit is. You have no idea how trade works period.
You're just a moron, getting bamboozled by another moron.
1 telandrias 2018-06-10
/u/pizzashill resident neet expert
1 imaginarycreatures 2018-06-10
I do like the notion that being a NEET and economic literacy are somehow mutually exclusive, like knowing what a trade deficit is somehow a requirement to be gainfully employed.
1 telandrias 2018-06-10
Anyone who could properly explain a trade deficit and the purpose of tariffs without screaming about the president for one goddamn minute probably has excellent amount of social skills and knowledge.
Too bad no one of that caliber exists in /r/drama or in known media outlets
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-10
Team Pizza 🍕 🎺 🍕
1 absurdlivingghost 2018-06-10
But, dude, "trade deficit" has the word "deficit" in it, and I know that deficits are bad. Therefore, trade deficits are bad.
(/s)
1 shimmy_shimmy_ya 2018-06-10
If you're not just trolling, which I think you probably are, it's actually completely fair for the number one consumer power in the world to have a giant trade deficit. That's what happens when you buy more than you sell.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
I love when people hate on trade deficits. Yes I too complain about basically free money so other countries have the benefits of selling to my fat ass.
1 Ranilen 2018-06-10
I'm currently running a huge trade deficit with the grocery store, Amazon, AND several local restaurants.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
... I know you're joking but kinda?
You haven't been paying the full cost of imported goods for a long longggg time.
1 Ranilen 2018-06-10
I just meant I buy a lot more from them than they buy from me.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-06-10
I think you misunderstand the core concept honestly
1 Ranilen 2018-06-10
Impossible, I've taken college classes and very nearly passed them.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Well I think you should declare war on them.
1 Ranilen 2018-06-10
It'll be fast, easy, and profitable! The real question is, why wouldn't I?
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
I feel like Jeff Bezos would cut off all your skin and wear it.
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
Have you considered the possibility that Trump is trying to change that? It's not good for an economy to be based entirely on consumption for a long time. Germany and China, for instance, have tons of value added taxes that steer their economies towards investments, which means they have tons of surpluses instead of debts. Tons of people like to shit on Trump but I've never seen anyone answer me why exactly should America continue to be a completely consumption oriented economy as compared to a number of other successful countries?
1 shimmy_shimmy_ya 2018-06-10
Only 70% of U.S. GDP is consumption.
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
Singapore 37%, China 39%, Sweden 44%, Norway 45%, Denmark 47%, Iceland, South Korea 48%, Germany 53%, I could go on. There are no first world countries with a higher number on this than America. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.CON.PETC.ZS?year_high_desc=false
1 shimmy_shimmy_ya 2018-06-10
Fuck yeah, USA number one!
1 acct_118 2018-06-10
You answered your own question. If a US politician so much as utters the word "tax" half the country goes in to a reeeee'ing shitstorm like it's Stalin's second coming.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Trump may be intellectually disabled. Does it worry you that you base your understanding of international relations on what he wants?
Do you actually want to make iphones and breath carcinogenic chemicals for 50c an hour? Those are the jobs Trump wants back.
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1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
I'm not American so I don't care either way. I'm just saying that your country being oriented towards consumption forever is not a plan that will work. At one point or another the rest of the world will stop trusting your ability to pay your debts back, and when that happens it will be good for the US to be more oriented towards savings and investments than consumption.
If you guys think that it's fine to keep going this way forever then you'll suffer more in the future.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
I'm not American either.
So the USA has lots of money. What they don't have is lots of goods. So because the USA has more money than goods, it benefits them to swap money for goods.
This is what you and Trump don't understand. A trade deficit is not inheritently bad. It reflects that you want to buy manufacturing capacity. Do you actually want to work in a sweatshop? Those are the jobs that are outsourced. So if you want those jobs back then you need to agree to work in sweatshop condition
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
The US has lots of money because it acts as the world's reserve currency. This was set up in 1971 so that money would flow as investments to 3rd world countries, then flow back into the US from those 3rd world countries as investments through the US (and UK's, for instance) financial system.
This setup works as long as the world believes that the US and the dollar are "safe". Any time you get any kind of instability in the world, people will flock the dollar because it's the safest currency, and this gives the US "a lot of money". The problem with this setup is that the US is increasing its national debt rapidly. Both Obama and Trump did this, and whoever comes after Trump will likely have to continue to do it as well (if things don't go south before then).
At some point, people will start questioning if the dollar really is a safe haven and if the US really has the ability to keep up with its debt burden. When this happens and people don't trust the dollar as much anymore, it will be good for America to not be entirely reliant on consumption and to have local industries that are able to produce all sorts of things, because the buying power of the average American citizen will be decreased in comparison to what it is today.
Yes, a trade deficit with any single country isn't inherently bad. But the case with the US is that it's buying more than it's producing with multiple countries. Like I said, its economy is mostly oriented towards consumption. In the long run this isn't good.
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
The US "has lots of money" because it acts as the world's reserve currency. This was set up in 1971 so that money would flow as investments to 3rd world countries, then flow back into the US from those 3rd world countries as investments through the US (and UK's, for instance) financial system.
This setup works as long as the world believes that the US and the dollar are "safe". Any time you get any kind of instability in the world, people will flock the dollar because it's the safest currency, and this gives the US "a lot of money". The problem with this setup is that the US is increasing its national debt rapidly. Both Obama and Trump did this, and whoever comes after Trump will likely have to continue to do it as well (if things don't go south before then).
At some point, people will start questioning if the dollar really is a safe haven and if the US really has the ability to keep up with its debt burden. When this happens and people don't trust the dollar as much anymore, it will be good for America to not be entirely reliant on consumption and to have local industries that are able to produce all sorts of things, because the buying power of the average American citizen will be decreased in comparison to what it is today.
Yes, a trade deficit with any single country isn't inherently bad. But the case with the US is that it's buying more than it's producing with multiple countries. Like I said, its economy is mostly oriented towards consumption. In the long run this isn't good.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
The USA has lots of money because they have a large population and are an advanced economy.
The reserve currency helps but they're still the world's largest group of the richest consumers. That wouldn't change whether or not the USA is the world's reserve currency. That's also not related to trade deficits.
They have an overall trade deficit but that's more than made up for with domestic GDP. The USA has shit loads of money and don't want to do really shitty manufacturing jobs. So they use that money to pay other countries to do those horrible jobs.
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
We just disagree. I don't think you understand economics enough to be having this discussion with me.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Feeling is pretty mutual. If we're talking about the standard understanding of economics then you agree with Trump. Any acceptable economist thinks he's a fucking moron. Which he is.
1 adnzzzzZ 2018-06-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxWpvgTH9oI&t=21m58s Honestly just stop getting your information from reddit only because you'll only find opinions that generally agree with you here in regards to Trump.
My argument in regards to your lack of understanding of economics, though, has to do with the fact that you don't seem to understand how money flows work, and not necessarily with the fact that you disagree with Trump.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Really? Thiel?
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
The fact you're bringing up the world reserve currency without mentioning the word petrodollar is not impressing me.
Every single mainstream advocates for free trade. Trump is massively opposed to that. What are you talking about? There just isn't a school of economists that advocate for what Trump advocates for.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
all of my wuts. Do you just not understand what it means to be a consumer?
1 kippot 2018-06-10
its a centipedo, he cant even tie his own shoelaces, much like /u/chadcyberbully
1 Plexipus 2018-06-10
Why do I have all this credit card debt when I'm buying things all the time?!
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-10
What are corn subsidies?
1 SamWhite 2018-06-10
I'm thinking this might be a joke, but Poe's law strikes again.
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
I'm talking rates not raw numbers, obviously the total imports would amount to a trade deficit. I'm saying as the number one consumer of goods we have the highest buying power. It doesn't make sense to be fucked over by high tariffs unless we reciprocate. Or we can just go total free trade.
1 SamWhite 2018-06-10
So when you said trade deficit you meant something different?
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
So why should the US put up with unreasonable tariffs that they have for years? How is that fair at all?
1 SamWhite 2018-06-10
So why should the EU put up with unreasonable tariffs that they have for years? How is that fair at all? We negotiate a fair or equal rate and the US retaliates that's retarded.
1 kippot 2018-06-10
centipedos gonna centipedophile
1 blackmagic70 2018-06-10
Oh look, it's retarded.
1 PM_YOUR_TAN_TITS 2018-06-10
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8nglef/rdrama_neet_gets_btfo_in_rpolitics/?st=JI9CWQQ0&sh=d14d8a6a
Aren’t you the stupid faggot that gets BTFO by the galaxy brains at r/politics constantly?
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
That's the only thing I ever went to that libcuck echo chamber. But that must mean constantly to you. What I said was true so not BTFO by anyone. Especially those Democucks
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
You got destroyed. You tried to cherry pick a few statistics about gen Z while ignoring the rest.
Hint: They're more in line with left of center democrats. Not the GOP.
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
OK since I just graduated high school last week I think I know what my generation is like more than http://imgur.com/gallery/fSxPYJe
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
So to be clear here, you believe your anecdotal opinions are more credible than actual data we have on the subject?
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
I showed data that supported my article they attacked three sources , they showed an opinion piece I also shared my anecdotal opinions.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
No you didn't you fucking mongoloid. You linked drivel cutting out the rest of the data and tried to frame it in a way that supported your pre-existing delusion.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/conservative-or-liberal-its-not-that-simple-with_us_59ea34f7e4b034105edd4e32
Gen Z has nothing in common with the GOP. That's just a talking point they jumped on, something they fed to stupid people. Hint: that's you.
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
I conceded socially liberal yes but far more fiscally conservative. That was my argument. Imagine thinking gay marriage and weed riles up Republicans anymore.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. Most of the country is "fiscally conservative" including most Democrats.
The GOP is not the party of fiscal conservatism. They're the party of "spend a lot while also reducing revenue."
Hillary Clinton, for example, is a fiscal conservative. As is most of the democratic party. Claiming someone being "fiscally conservative" means they're a republican displays you just aren't very educated on the subject.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Someone gave you a piece of paper asserting you had knowledge?
1 PM_YOUR_TAN_TITS 2018-06-10
The only time you went and you managed to come off more fucking retarded sounding than some of the biggest pearl clutching morons on the entire site. You got owned, you’re a NEET, liberals live in your head rent free and you’re still purple-faced buttmad about it.
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
I'm not a neet I just graduated from HS and start college in the fall.
1 tritter211 2018-06-10
I know this is /r/drama, but damn dude, why in gods name do you even have a strong opinion before actually learning even the ABC's of international trade? You outed yourself as a near illiterate here.
Whats there to discuss with a dipshit who don't even comprehend high school level education?
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
You're at a deficit because you are the number one consumer power in the world. You want to buy more shit than you have to sell.
1 mrsuns10 2018-06-10
THat aint my daddy
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-06-10
#NOTMYDADDY
1 OnionBits 2018-06-10
Imagine my shock
Also 28D CHESS LMAO
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
Looks like the DDF is here
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1 SuperiorExcess 2018-06-10
What the fuck is the point of this bot even
1 carthoris26 2018-06-10
Un-fuck imgur on mobile.
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-06-10
Don't use a shit Reddit app then
1 carthoris26 2018-06-10
I was just answering your question, the original link works fine for me. A few months ago every imgur link that wasn't direct was fucked for everyone on mobile and that's why the bot exists.
1 hexane360 2018-06-10
ya'll have shitty mobile apps
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
Imgur is bloated and shitty and doesn't even load half the time if you use tor, but the images aren't bloated and always load
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-06-10
Use a better app bruv
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
I've not even using an app, I'm just using firefox on desktop
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-10
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-10
Why is the first image log and the second image linear
1 Elemesh 2018-06-10
1.) It makes the improvement under Trump's administration look less impressive.
2.) Stock prices reflect contingent claims on the revenue of companies, which in aggregate should be expected to rise at the same rate of growth as the economy. This growth is compounding so log-linear best allows for inter-temporal comparison.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-10
So why isn’t unemployment log?
1 Elemesh 2018-06-10
Unemployment is a percentage measure, and not compounding.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-10
Even still, a 10% change in unemployment from 4% to 3.6% will look smaller than a 10% change in unemployment from 10% to 9%. Graphing unemployment in log would reflect the changes more clearly from year to year, just as that would for stocks
1 Elemesh 2018-06-10
Long term evidence is that if you tell me GDP Y in period T I can tell you that in period T+t it will look something like Y*(1.04)t. There is no such relationship for unemployment. Changes in it do depend upon the absolute value in the last period, especially if near the Keynsian lower bound which I think is the case in the US, but not in such an explicit way and with reference to other structural figures.
What this boils down to is graphing them in their respective ways lets you draw straight lines most often.
1 db1923 2018-06-10
/r/drama econ discussion already better than /r/economics
1 Elemesh 2018-06-10
If you find specialist discussion in the wild anywhere on Reddit it's more likely to be coming from a source of some authority. But /r/Economics is especially bad. Maybe the worst.
1 shallowm 2018-06-10
It's probably because the website they were using had logarithmic scales as a default. Here's the same graph on a linear scale.
1 Lorevmaster 2018-06-10
so you are doing the same thing that trump supporters do...
1 r4chan-cancer 2018-06-10
The joke was that the bad part of the bush years, not his whole two terms, was because of Obama according to trumptards, why would trumptards give credit for good years to obummer?
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
Because he brought Sharia law, communism, and Pokemon Go to America.
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-10
As a mexican't I'm already fucking tired of this shitter threatening to tank our economy every second day.
Imagine if the value of your currency was dependent on whatever some elderly baboon saw on TV.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
Build the wall.
1 kippot 2018-06-10
keep safe.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
That's why we need a big beautiful wall.
1 kippot 2018-06-10
thats now what keep safe means, smartypants
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
I'll use a rubber.
1 kippot 2018-06-10
you can just cut it off, its not like it sees a lot of use anyway
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-10
Lol epic
1 MG87 2018-06-10
Annnnnnnnnnnmy day now
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
After the red tide in 2018 flushes a few rinos.
1 MG87 2018-06-10
I think we're going a split House and Congress
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
You thought Hillary would win.
1 MG87 2018-06-10
Well nothing is certain anymore, aside from the Warriors deep dicking the Cavs
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
Amen
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
Only retards thought Trump would win. He like a 30% chance.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
No he had 100% chance. Only retards who thought overssmpled polls thought that they were correct.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
Imagine being this retarded
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
The day of voting his chance was 100%. The polls were horribly biased and wrong, they were what was in error. Elections are not dice rolls.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
No it was still 30%
Do you have any evidence of that?
1 tritter211 2018-06-10
Historically the opposition party is usually favored to win elections in large numbers.
So far, democrats have been winning lots of elections recently.
But then, they also gave in a chunks of red meat to the ruling party which is also making them energized.
So chances are, we are going to get a house majority republican, and house senate democrat split.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
They have? Hmmmm
1 Singulaire 2018-06-10
Well, communists do have a history of building walls.
1 PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2018-06-10
Hang yourself from it!
1 wtfuxlolwut 2018-06-10
Should extend all the way around the u.s wouldn't want any more Americans escaping.
1 shallowm 2018-06-10
why are you telling him to do it
1 EichmannsCat 2018-06-10
lol yeah how’s that wall building going so far, btw?
1 yourdeadwife 2018-06-10
I mean if you're worried about the economy and you live in Mexico then youre probably doing bettering than everyone else who has to worry about their corpse being chopped up and hung from an overpass or which donkey to fuck.
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-10
Something something school shooting cousin fucker mayos
1 grungebot5000 2018-06-10
europe
1 yourdeadwife 2018-06-10
It can't be so bad when Mexicans area willing to hide in spare tires for 6 hours just to pick grapes here
1 Currycell92 2018-06-10
Burn. That's gotta hurt.
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-10
Those are Central American guys. Mexicans just fly in and don't fly out.
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
Just Guatemalans. Not all of Central America is shitty, Costa Rica is a safe and developed country with a really vibrant culture and lotsa natural wonders.
1 preserved_fish 2018-06-10
Costa Rica is lovely, but Honduras, eg, is pretty rough.
1 Mexagon 2018-06-10
You don't have an economy anyway.
1 Ranilen 2018-06-10
I mean I live in America so...
1 PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2018-06-10
Look at the value of the USD. it's been trending downward ever since inauguration.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-06-10
USD shot up in 2017 and has been spiraling down ever since
1 nanonan 2018-06-10
Almost as if the Euro is recovering from an absolute walloping.
1 aenigme 2018-06-10
Except, when it's not. eg. The entire year of 2018.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
/u/pizzashill is always best after his shareblue check clears.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Are you even going to try to defend this economic illiteracy? How's it feel to be so indoctrinated, so under the spell of tribalism that you'll pretend Trump isn't a moron.
1 Mexagon 2018-06-10
Economy is only on the rise. Don't see the problem here.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Jesus Christ the public school system in this country needs massive reforms.
1 Kawaiiomnitron 2018-06-10
If there’s ever no hope for the situation, just sit back and watch them collapse into their dependent minds when its truly shown how fucked over we’ve become due to his negligence. Stop warning your idiot friends and family members about dangers like “Nigerian princes” and “free credit scores” and let natural selection weed out the bad seeds. They need to fall a few times before they’ll learn anything
1 acct_118 2018-06-10
lolno, it'll just be the blame game as usual
1 lebron181 2018-06-10
Implying that public schools were good
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-10
you work at mcdonald’s and are addicted to video games. thanks for the econ lesson champ!
1 rhiehn 2018-06-10
Surely this bull market will never end, and ending all trade with allies will have no effect on it.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
You know I keep hearing how bad this is, but no one is saying why. Countries protect their industries but expect ours to bend over. Fuck that. Either we have really free trade or we play tit for tat.
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
Well the main thing is that if your employer relies on transatlantic trade then you have no job now.
most industries do
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
Really no job now? Like they were just all fired?
1 Daxx46 2018-06-10
Typically economic activity takes longer than 2 seconds to play out
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
Well obviously it'd take a while, although you'd probably get mass panic selling on the stock market if he announced it which might speed it up a bit.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Yeah, we've established you don't understand trade or basic economics.
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-10
I mean most people don't? Not many people have majored in economics, I doubt many have taken a course.
Though I would love to know what's the benefit of a one way 150%+ tariff.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
Still no answer.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Because there's no point. It's like trying tot each a rat physics or something.
I've been down this road with you enough times to know it's a waste of my time trying to tell you anything because you're a walking dunning kruger effect.
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
Because you have no answer, which means a site like even Vox hasn't come up with a long yet wrong one for you to cut and paste.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
No, it's because I literally do not believe you are competent enough to understand trade, mainly because the way you framed the question.
You believe countries are in competition with each other, you believe trade deficits are somehow bad.
It's literally not worth any more of my time because as I said, you don't care about being right.
Anything linked to you will be dismissed. The economists will be wrong. You're a cultist, not a real person.
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
Wow, such a loss losing a bunch of dumb hicks without the brain capacity required for higher education.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-06-10
Because the American economy would collapse if America stopped all international trade
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
But we aren't? Don't be retarded.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
So when a country has subsidies they are literally giving you money. This is free money. If fucking over the working class wasn't a winning move then Republicans never would have won an election.
1 nanonan 2018-06-10
Read the Art of the Deal. He is negotiating.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-10
You mean that book Tony Schwartz wrote?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
FAKE NEWS!!!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
1 preserved_fish 2018-06-10
Your ancestor probably bought shares of the Brooklyn Bridge from Trump's grandfather.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
He can't read or write idiot. He literally got fucked over on the ghostwriting deal for that book.
1 nanonan 2018-06-10
Imagine thinking that paying someone to do tedious bullshit when you are a billionaire means you are illiterate. Sad!
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Imagine giving away the entire advance and 50% of the profits. That's unheard of. It may be the worst ghostwriting deal ever made.
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
Trump's just trolling le libcucks, fucking epic troll when he collapses the global economy and we have to live in nuclear mudhuts after WW3
1 tempTemp0001 2018-06-10
RACK EM KING
1 acct_118 2018-06-10
lmao this whole thread is a shitshow. Great work!
1 readythespaghetti 2018-06-10
You dumbass
1 Chicup 2018-06-10
For an obvious troll account... its really.. boring... step up your game man.
1 readythespaghetti 2018-06-10
Nah don't need to, just like calling you dipshit out nice and succinctly
1 ValiantPie 2018-06-10
God I wish I was being paid to make fun of the most prolific lolcow in recent years, quite possibly in all of American history!
Wait, you know what, I thought of something sad: we never were able to see the impulsive thoughts of powerful lolcows throughout history. They lived and died able to maintain the illusion that they weren't complete idiots, with a few exceptions like Nero and that one lady in Pompeii who learned publicly that she was so unlikable that she lost her boyfriend to bussy.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 PureGold07 2018-06-10
Trump is either bunkers or a genius we all just don't understand.
I'd go the latter.
1 bcat124 2018-06-10
You are the former
1 reptilia987 2018-06-10
agenda post 😴😴😴
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
tsk tsk tsk
Also lol at not getting any love from r/drama
1 reptilia987 2018-06-10
why you gotta expose me like that 😤
1 ForceableEntry 2018-06-10
It's comforting that Trump is out there being loud and shit because he just attracts the absolute dumbest people on the planet who seem to think they're intelligent for mocking him. It's the easy joke that every idiot can make, Durrr I'm smarter than the prezidin. u don't understand trade!!!! EPIC
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Trump literally doesn't comprehend Trade and your average person pulled from the street is more intelligent than Donald Trump.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
Indeed. I'll trust a pizzashill over a billionaire when it comes to economics. Papa John is going to be an awesome president in 2020.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Yes indeed, because everyone know being rich means you understand macro economics.
Sure, the economists, you know, the actual people that do in fact understand this say he's wrong, but dude, Trump is rich!
I honestly can't even imagine being this fucking stupid. Like how do you even tie your own shoes if you think being wealthy means you understand economics?
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
You can afford shoes?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
I don't really care what you think as long as you admit to me that you understand your argument was absurdly fallacious.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
This is awesome. It's like you care, but you don't. I can see why r/drama values your insight so much. You voting Chuck E. Cheese in 2020? There may be game tokens in it for you.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
I honestly want you to get help. You're either literally insane or you're a senile old person. I don't even think you're intelligent enough to comprehend how stupid you are.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
Maybe Chuck E. Cheese and Papa John can reform mental health care.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
Maybe, because Reagan setting you tard apes loose did a number on America.
1 muck4doo 2018-06-10
Awwww, you do care. How sweet. I award you one "Atta Boy!" virtue signal. You can show it to your team mates at your next pizza party.
1 ay_what_up2 2018-06-10
Lmfao @ the billionaire meme this is america
1 trumplethinskins 2018-06-10
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-loses-libel-lawsuit-232923
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
He's a billionaire because his dad was a billionaire, and his dad before him.
If you think he's a "self made businessman" or whatever he's calling himself these days I have a bridge in Brooklyn up for sale.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-10
No one in his family was ever a billionaire you dumb fuck. Go away.
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
You know he inherited over $400 million and managed to get a worse rate of return than the real estate market he invested in?
1 ForceableEntry 2018-06-10
Drumpfty Stillskins is a BUFFEWN! I am the eternal enlightened hat tipper, Drumtp you bufoon.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-10
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
1 Illyana_Rasputin 2018-06-10
Why do you hate national security so much, u/pizzashill?
1 KillAllCentrists 2018-06-10
Someone should tell him that free trade will definitely trigger the libs so he can stop this shit.
1 mayocide-when 2018-06-10
downvoted .
1 ValiantPie 2018-06-10
Looks like he got a few pointers on diplomacy from Kim Kong In.
Seriously though why haven't I woken up from this dream yet? I've been stuck in this absurd and logically impossible nightmare timeline for like 16 months now and still haven't woken up so I can laugh and say "thank god literally none of that happened."
1 Mexagon 2018-06-10
If the post has "Daddy" in it it's guaranteed to be retarded.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-10
And yet here you are commenting on the post...
1 Nutritionisawesome 2018-06-10
Guess where confeve beans come from.
Hint: not America
1 grungebot5000 2018-06-10
at this point you have to consider the very real possibility that he’s not actually advocating this, and is just saying words
1 ErictheRedding 2018-06-10
Are there any defenses of this statement anywhere beyond the trite “triggering the Europeans” crap? Do trump supporters on Reddit actually think it’s realistic to stop trading with Europe if they don’t do what trump says?
1 tritter211 2018-06-10
You are asking serious questions at the perpetually "pretending to be retarded" crowd.
Keep in mind, if you shit in food and feed that to the trumplicans but say "lol librul tears lmao", they are going to eat it happily.
1 ErictheRedding 2018-06-10
I’m just trying serious post and cut through the shit. I’d imagine that it’s all uniform delusion out tin the trumposphere but I’m curious if there’s any real thought about it.
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-10
> trumposphere
> real thought
Pick one
1 reddit_survivor 2018-06-10
ECONOMICALLY ILLITERATE FAILED BILLIONAIRE PRESIDENT!
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
1 melokobeai 2018-06-10
Trump refused to release his tax returns and lost a libel suit against a reporter who said he was worth $250 because he refused to actually prove he was a billionaire.
But yeah, definitely a billionaire.
1 HumbertHumbertTekken 2018-06-10
these LIBERALS👹👿out here building🔨their own HOUSES🏡 with 4 WALLS😤😤when they won't even support ONE1️⃣WALL around the BORDER🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎😎😎😎the DemoCRAPS💩💩have ALWAYS been the party🎊👿of HATE😡😡😡😡😡I wonder🤔🤔if they're TRIGGERED😱😱‼️‼️because there's TWO2️⃣GENDERS✅🙋🏼♂️💁🏼what can you expect from 👦🏿👦🏿🚫OBUNGA🚫👦🏿👦🏿and the LEFT??!!⬅️⬅️Send this to all your ❌🚫👎🏽👎🏽LIBTARD👎🏽👎🏽🚫❌friends to totally ⚠️TRIGGER⚠️them and spread the WORD❤️❤️🔑🔑of CONSERVATISM😂😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽😎😎😎😎😎👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
1 noo--dles 2018-06-10
Did someone just out-Butteredtpast the original?
1 Singulaire 2018-06-10
This, but unironically. What America needs is more conserve-autism.
1 PresidentYe 2018-06-10
Mainstream media proves, for the 850,000th time, starting from the beginning of the election campaign, it doesn't understand Trump's methods.
1 Penguin_Party12345 2018-06-10
If I wanted a dipshit faggots opinion on economics, I would ask my gay inbred neighbor.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-10
Gateway pundit is the only authoritative source libfags!
1 pinoypepper 2018-06-10
Can't wait for the masses to turn on this idiot and give him the gaddafi treatment. They will fuck his whole family into oblivion as well.
1 geraldo42 2018-06-10
I know pizzashill can't help being pizzashill but you fuckers could definitely choose not to upvote this shit. Content vote ranking systems were a mistake.
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-06-10
Voting was a mistake. President Daddy proves it.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-10
👆👆👆
1 Hemingwavy 2018-06-10
Are you saying unreasonable people can rise to the top? I am fucking shocked.
1 Awayfone 2018-06-10
Dont look at me, did my part to foster qualitytm content
1 ticktockwarrior 2018-06-10
fyi, if anyone else complained about this they would immediately be called a daddy supporter by /u/Ed_ButteredToast and his ilk. i've seen it happen way too many times.
1 geraldo42 2018-06-10
I think they alternated between calling me a reactionary racist and an SRS posting SJW enough that I've reached a point where I get to claim true centrism.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-06-10
Depends on the month and current mood of the sub. Today though you are definitely Daddy Defense Force.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-10
Cry harder lol.
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-10
But look at all these free drama! The lolcows just come in walking by themselves!
1 Neronoah 2018-06-10
I upvote lolcows.
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-10
Big surprise there.
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
This is like the badly written preamble of a shitty COD game where Russia annexes the US and then goes to war with the UN.
1 KittehDragoon 2018-06-10
Is that where COD is at these days?
I know it isn't, because they would never made a COD where the USA loses, but they've fallen a long way from Modern Warfare 1 - Tom Clancy the Game.
1 Tetragrade 2018-06-10
It's almost the plot of MW2: where the US loses to Russia until the player stops them, and MW3: where the EU loses to Russia until the player stops them.
1 HansCool 2018-06-10
Pathetic
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-10
9th dimensional Pong.
1 tacitchav 2018-06-10
Perfect RETARD president to reflect our perfect RETARD country.
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1 acct_118 2018-06-10
low effort tbh
1 aliceunknown 2018-06-10
I keep expecting Penn to make a formal apology for not stamping the stupid out of him.