"Calling me unedicated is the last straw, I played games with 4000 year old dragons since GameBoy Advance and I have studied the blade since I was 5 year old.
People should support females in vidya. They might actually have a chance of getting laid if more females were interested in the only topic they can have a conversation about.
I'm being called uneducated by a guy who made half the German army black, and the entire austro-hungarian army German speaking in his WW1 game, because I'd prefer him not to add disabled female soldiers to the front line ranks of the British and German armies of his WWII game on the basis of his daughter being able to play as a woman in a cartoon.
This is unreal.
He went out of his way to protect the canon of star wars, but not wanting history whitewashed by shoehorning modern conceptions of diversity into historical settings makes me uneducated.
I dare say that perhaps he is the one who lacks perpective, even education.
Edit: Since some people are attacking me personally, or things I did not say - Yes my phrasing was bad in the first sentence. No, I'm not horribly upset about the woman soldiers, although I think it is lame the way they did it, and there would have been better ways to include whichever group of people they wanted, if they wanted to. Mostly, I just think it is very silly and a stupid business move for the developer to call potential customers stupid for wanting a WWII game to look like WWII.
Calling jumping into planes like some action hero unrealistic is the last straw, I played jumping-into-planes games since the Nintendo64 and I have studied the art of plane-jumping since I was 2 years old.
That's sacrificing realism/historical accuracy for the sake of gameplay rather than for the aesthetics.
If you're going to have a huge important historical setting you should try to make it historically accurate, at least in the details every bumblefuck knows about, otherwise why bother?
That's sacrificing realism/historical accuracy for the sake of gameplay rather than for the aesthetics.
If you're going to have a huge important historical setting you should try to make it historically accurate, at least in the details every bumblefuck knows about, otherwise why bother?
Yes, the way Oddball was totally an accurate depiction of someone in the 1940s and not a concession to 1960s counter-culture anti (vietnam) war mores and values.
It isn't possible to have good gameplay without being able to jump into planes and shock people to death with defib pads?
Admit it, that shit's there because it looks cool, as is the woman with a prosthetic arm. It's basically Wolfenstein pretending to be a historical shooter.
This dwarfs the delusional mayo fragility of the OP in just 2 lines. Its almost artistic at how much victimization and lack of perspective is packed in that one comment.
To be fair "it's just a game" is the lamest cliche non argument you can make in this situation. If it's just a game why can't you be happy with/without women? It's as bad as the "current year" argument.
Also I think dog fighting and strip clubs are both lower forms of entertainment, off the top of my head.
I'm not even a gamer and I recognize the incredible potential for storytelling and art that games have. Being new doesn't make them low art nor is that a reason to accept shit.
EDIT: Yes, as many people have pointed out, I did lie about my background in this post. Please do not upvote. This post was an attempt to put pressure on EA and raise awareness to this issue.
in a world where they had to make an investor conference call because they missed targets by several million copies
this is how public companies work; it doesn’t matter that the last Jedi made a billion dollars or whatever, Disney and investors expected it to make 2 billion dollars and when it doesn’t there’s hard questions asked
With a production budget of $144 million, as well as a large amount spent on marketing, the studio stated that the film would need to gross at least $300 million to break even
As opening day approaches, Feig can’t help but think about the stakes of making a $150 million movie. “A movie like this has to at least get to like $500 million worldwide, and that’s probably low,” he says.
They wanted at least $500 million from the BO but it fell pretty short. We won't be getting a ghostbusters 2 for sure
daily reminder that falling short of expectations is what matters - The Last Jedi was a fucking bomb even though it made a billion at the BO or whatever
It turned a 417$ million dollar profit just from the box office. It was disliked but a monstrous BO success. The fans actually showed how much they disliked TLJ when it came to Solo. Now THAT was a fucking disaster
They couldn't expect much more from the box office considering it's a sequel but yeah the merch and Solo suffered for it big time. They deserve it for milking it so much tbh
most people making fun of you guys for being ridiculously outraged wouldn't even give a shit if they didn't decide to put women character models in the game. The outrage over this is like 100x bigger than if they didn't and it's hilarious.
I doubt it will tank unless they do some stupid lootbox type of shit. No matter how much these dorks are acting like this is the end of the world they'll still buy the deluxe edition and put hundreds of hours into as long as progression appears fair.
ya they said the same thing about battlefront 2 and it tanked
Overwatch is loading up on hugbox stuff and it’s bombing as well
all the woke twitter hopes and dreams won’t change the fact that video games like sports are almost the exclusive pastime of straight men
As for me I couldn’t give a fuck, I haven’t paid to see a star war since tfa, didn’t watch GB2016 or Oceans 8, and haven’t bought a bf since bf2 (although I feel pretty dumb about trusting blizzard and giving them money for OW)
Battlefront 2 was poorly received because of the loot and progression system. If they avoid this with BF5 (which I'm pretty sure they did with the last BF) then the sales will be probably be fine. I think they've said it's not shipping with lootboxes, but who knows if they'll add it in later.
only 40m total sold by end of 2nd for an 85% dropoff in y/y sales
as for active players blizzard of course learned from wow and doesn’t publish numbers anymore, but anyone playing the game at any MMR can tell you their friends lists are dead and queue times are double what they were a year ago
dont even start on twitch viewership which is down almost 50% in the past two months as the new meta is aids for practically everyone, not only to play but to watch as well, with all but maybe 2 or 3 of the big streamers abandoning the game entirely
the game as is, is dead - blizzard might be able to turn it around but unlike WoW it has a ton of competition and frankly I think that ship has sailed
I used to re-enact the battle of kursk using nothing more than soggy cheerios and a rubber band. Plus, I read this one book by David Irving that says Hitler didn't really do anything wrong!
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-13
Your condescending, contradictory bullshit isn't attractive to anyone except your frothing, basement-dwelling, virgin army.
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1 Snowayne2 2018-06-13
SENTIENT
1 shitpost953 2018-06-13
removed.
here's the latest archive, with edit
http://archive.is/XbWnS
1 AquaNetwerk 2018-06-13
Man could you imagine having so little bussy in your life that you actually have to give a shit about a video game?
What's that life like /u/dasknackwurst?
1 ExpOriental 2018-06-13
Can you really blame him? He's from Minnesota. If I were stuck there I'd be LARPing all day too.
1 GandalftheChromatic 2018-06-13
/u/dasknackwurst Imagine getting this seethingly asspained about the yearly AAA FPS that gets shit out by the gaping asshole that is EA.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-13
"Calling me unedicated is the last straw, I played games with 4000 year old dragons since GameBoy Advance and I have studied the blade since I was 5 year old.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
Imagine thinking realism is important in a game where you jump into planes like some action hero.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-13
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FEEEMALES IN MY VIDYA???
1 lickedTators 2018-06-13
People should support females in vidya. They might actually have a chance of getting laid if more females were interested in the only topic they can have a conversation about.
1 canad1anbacon 2018-06-13
also Horizon was good shit
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-13
story was god-tier (I mean, for a video game), gameplay was decent until it got samey
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-13
You'd think these incels would be smart enough lol
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
I have several degrees in history.
I'm being called uneducated by a guy who made half the German army black, and the entire austro-hungarian army German speaking in his WW1 game, because I'd prefer him not to add disabled female soldiers to the front line ranks of the British and German armies of his WWII game on the basis of his daughter being able to play as a woman in a cartoon.
This is unreal.
He went out of his way to protect the canon of star wars, but not wanting history whitewashed by shoehorning modern conceptions of diversity into historical settings makes me uneducated.
I dare say that perhaps he is the one who lacks perpective, even education.
Edit: Since some people are attacking me personally, or things I did not say - Yes my phrasing was bad in the first sentence. No, I'm not horribly upset about the woman soldiers, although I think it is lame the way they did it, and there would have been better ways to include whichever group of people they wanted, if they wanted to. Mostly, I just think it is very silly and a stupid business move for the developer to call potential customers stupid for wanting a WWII game to look like WWII.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
Why?
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-06-13
This is pasta
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
I thought the edit made it pretty obvious
1 GoGo_Ratchet 2018-06-13
No ones forcing you to play a woman, and neither will the campaign.
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
I support females in vidya because it makes the nudemods more interesting.
1 CPT_Clarnence 2018-06-13
I support anything that makes self-described “gamers” unhappy, to be honest 家庭.
1 Singulaire 2018-06-13
I mean, it's worked out so well for male feminists.
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
Calling jumping into planes like some action hero unrealistic is the last straw, I played jumping-into-planes games since the Nintendo64 and I have studied the art of plane-jumping since I was 2 years old.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
While ohers were getting laid, this guy was studying the.....plane jump
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
Well I was not allowed to get laid at age 2. So planejumping it was.
1 drvgyn3 2018-06-13
the difference is that being able to do that improves the game
1 _Petronius 2018-06-13
Women are funny, get over it
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
Being able to kill people with defib pads and jump into airborne planes improves the game?
Okay, then perhaps realism isn't as important as you think it is, becuase tis perfectly possibel to have a good game without that shit.
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
That's sacrificing realism/historical accuracy for the sake of gameplay rather than for the aesthetics.
If you're going to have a huge important historical setting you should try to make it historically accurate, at least in the details every bumblefuck knows about, otherwise why bother?
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
But why are these "details everyone knows" always something on the lines of "women belong in the kitchen, not on the battlefield"?
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
It's fairly common knowledge that the military letting women be footsoldiers (or whatever it's called) is a recent thing
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
Have a War Medal
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
Its also fairly common knowledge that you can't jump into flying planes in real life.
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
Yes you can https://youtu.be/M6Q1S0DlZrY
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
https://youtu.be/M6Q1S0DlZrY
1 julian_varga 2018-06-13
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
Yes, the way Oddball was totally an accurate depiction of someone in the 1940s and not a concession to 1960s counter-culture anti (vietnam) war mores and values.
LOL
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
Being able to jump into flying planes and killing people with defibrillator pads is excusable but women aren't?
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
Completely pointless breaks from reality in a historical setting aren’t the same as breaks from realism to serve the gameplay.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
It isn't possible to have good gameplay without being able to jump into planes and shock people to death with defib pads?
Admit it, that shit's there because it looks cool, as is the woman with a prosthetic arm. It's basically Wolfenstein pretending to be a historical shooter.
1 julian_varga 2018-06-13
TIL soviet female soldiers and snipers, Polish, Italian and French female resistance fighters and US, UK and Soviet female pilots don't real.
1 LambOfCod 2018-06-13
I'm just disgusted anytime anything reminds me that females exist tbh and would rather they keep their beef flaps away from my tank treads
1 AggressionSsb 2018-06-13
Its great
1 Dextro420x 2018-06-13
/r/ShitWehraboosSay
1 pvijay187 2018-06-13
This is like the antithesis of the Navy seal copy pasta
1 Zizac 2018-06-13
This dwarfs the delusional mayo fragility of the OP in just 2 lines. Its almost artistic at how much victimization and lack of perspective is packed in that one comment.
1 Snowayne2 2018-06-13
I have no idea what he's trying to say. It seems more like an argument in favour of diversity in games.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
Mein Krampf
1 zenicaone 2018-06-13
Mein Trump.
I win.
1 Plexipus 2018-06-13
When SJWWI happens people will point back at Battlefield V as Zoe Quinn's Beerhall Putsch
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
To be fair "it's just a game" is the lamest cliche non argument you can make in this situation. If it's just a game why can't you be happy with/without women? It's as bad as the "current year" argument.
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-13
I guarantee you the majority of people who are making fun of them would not be outraged if Battlefield didn't include female character models.
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
Complaining about women not being in a game is idiotic too. Complaining about the gender of video game characters is pretty sad in general
1 bugsbunnyinadress 2018-06-13
Spoken like someone who has never struggled to find a protag who looked like them
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
watch movies/read books
1 bugsbunnyinadress 2018-06-13
I expect more from my art, sue me
Also I think dog fighting and strip clubs are both lower forms of entertainment, off the top of my head.
I'm not even a gamer and I recognize the incredible potential for storytelling and art that games have. Being new doesn't make them low art nor is that a reason to accept shit.
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
There's plenty of good art out there that you could be immersing yourself into instead of blowing a gasket at AAA games for pandering to pre teens
1 bugsbunnyinadress 2018-06-13
No one is blowing a gasket
I just called out your myopic attitude
1 GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS 2018-06-13
Fucking gamers lmao
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-06-13
For the sake of my own sanity, I'm choosing to believe that this is a troll.
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
the "minor in German Studies" set off my troll alarm.
1 kippot 2018-06-13
He was just bullshitting about his "credentials" , check the edit
Seems genuine to me
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
also, just a quick hot take on wikipedia of all sources list women in the wermacht - mostly as auxiliaries - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Nazi_Germany
1 kippot 2018-06-13
i dont think anyone has disputed the historical facts here, its just a fucking game lol
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
the edit is fucking retarded
"I WAS MERELY TRYING TO START A DISCUSSION EEECKKSS DEEE"
1 kippot 2018-06-13
by lying about a bullshit education? like that is gonna earn him any extra points lol
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
That's so fucking pathetic tbh.
1 kippot 2018-06-13
what would you expect from someone typing that wall completely unironically? that guy has the potential to be a great pastamaker/incel one day
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
I mean Im an amateur WW1 and WW2 history buff, but Christ its a game that they want fun over realism.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-13
I mean, this is a game where you jump into flyinnplanes.
1 rhiehn 2018-06-13
the mayocide can wait. we need to erase gamers from this planet
1 lickedTators 2018-06-13
Those are the same tho
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-13
G A M E R S
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1 danklord9938437343 2018-06-13
this but unironically
1 GoGo_Ratchet 2018-06-13
OD
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infected
Dens.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-13
So is adding women to this game anything more than pandering to incels by letting them play as their Waffen-SS waifus?
1 kippot 2018-06-13
If that was their plan, they failed miserably judging by the incel REEEEEEEEEEEaction
1 julian_varga 2018-06-13
TIL soviet female soldiers and snipers, Polish, Italian and French female resistance fighters and US, UK and Soviet female pilots don't real.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-13
That's not why they're putting Waffen SS waifus in Battlefield.
1 HungerArtistatlunch 2018-06-13
Waaaaaah!!!! These pixels are arranged wrong!!!! Waaaah!!!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-13
/u/nmx179 would love this
1 Maggot_Pie 2018-06-13
What did he mean by this?
1 Plexipus 2018-06-13
He didn't start studying World War II until he was six
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2018-06-13
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1 Joeybada33 2018-06-13
I think he meant that he lied about wanting a historically accurate game and really is just an incel.
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
we live in a society where promiscuity is glorified and gamer's and straight white male's are the most opressed minoritie's...
1 kippot 2018-06-13
(unironic) /r/GamersRiseUp meets /r/Braincels or is that venn diagram just a big circle
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-13
the most oppressed group of all: GAMERS
1 DepletedMitochondria 2018-06-13
Not even good at the Oppression Olympics
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
it will be funny when this game tanks like star wars did and progressives still claim victory
1 rockidol 2018-06-13
How much it will tank will probably depend 100% on how much lootbox bullshit EA puts in.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
it’s EA
“a lot”
1 d-amazo 2018-06-13
in what universe is "selling nearly 10 million copies" considered 'tanking'?
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
in a world where they had to make an investor conference call because they missed targets by several million copies
this is how public companies work; it doesn’t matter that the last Jedi made a billion dollars or whatever, Disney and investors expected it to make 2 billion dollars and when it doesn’t there’s hard questions asked
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
i am now a tankie
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
daily reminder the all female shitty remake of ghostbusters fucking turned a profit (dunno if budget includes marketing) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters_(2016_film)
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
From the box office? No it didn't. They needed at least 500 million and they got half of that
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters_(2016_film)
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
But it only made $229 million so according to that figure it made a loss.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/paul-feig-ghostbusters-reboot-c-v-r.html
They wanted at least $500 million from the BO but it fell pretty short. We won't be getting a ghostbusters 2 for sure
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
holy fuck im retarded, I meant that they DIDNT turn a profit
too much reddit today.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
daily reminder that falling short of expectations is what matters - The Last Jedi was a fucking bomb even though it made a billion at the BO or whatever
1 saddertadder 2018-06-13
downvoting on r/drama and being a pedantic tard? wewlad, are you lost? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_office_bomb
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
It turned a 417$ million dollar profit just from the box office. It was disliked but a monstrous BO success. The fans actually showed how much they disliked TLJ when it came to Solo. Now THAT was a fucking disaster
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
don’t even look at the merch numbers unless you want to see a real disaster, or the knock-on for Solo
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-13
They couldn't expect much more from the box office considering it's a sequel but yeah the merch and Solo suffered for it big time. They deserve it for milking it so much tbh
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-06-13
"the fans showed how much they hated a movie by hating another movie"
I wonder what goes on inside the mind of a Star Wars fan
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-13
/rich Evans at-st dance
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-13
most people making fun of you guys for being ridiculously outraged wouldn't even give a shit if they didn't decide to put women character models in the game. The outrage over this is like 100x bigger than if they didn't and it's hilarious.
I doubt it will tank unless they do some stupid lootbox type of shit. No matter how much these dorks are acting like this is the end of the world they'll still buy the deluxe edition and put hundreds of hours into as long as progression appears fair.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
ya they said the same thing about battlefront 2 and it tanked
Overwatch is loading up on hugbox stuff and it’s bombing as well
all the woke twitter hopes and dreams won’t change the fact that video games like sports are almost the exclusive pastime of straight men
As for me I couldn’t give a fuck, I haven’t paid to see a star war since tfa, didn’t watch GB2016 or Oceans 8, and haven’t bought a bf since bf2 (although I feel pretty dumb about trusting blizzard and giving them money for OW)
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-13
Battlefront 2 was poorly received because of the loot and progression system. If they avoid this with BF5 (which I'm pretty sure they did with the last BF) then the sales will be probably be fine. I think they've said it's not shipping with lootboxes, but who knows if they'll add it in later.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
ya I mean it’s ea so odds of them not fucking up a franchise decrease over time to zero
1 Karlore473 2018-06-13
OW had like 50 million players. It’s not tanking. Or did they have a investor call which seems to be tanking to u
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
OW had 35m copies sold at end of 1st year
only 40m total sold by end of 2nd for an 85% dropoff in y/y sales
as for active players blizzard of course learned from wow and doesn’t publish numbers anymore, but anyone playing the game at any MMR can tell you their friends lists are dead and queue times are double what they were a year ago
dont even start on twitch viewership which is down almost 50% in the past two months as the new meta is aids for practically everyone, not only to play but to watch as well, with all but maybe 2 or 3 of the big streamers abandoning the game entirely
the game as is, is dead - blizzard might be able to turn it around but unlike WoW it has a ton of competition and frankly I think that ship has sailed
1 Destirigon 2018-06-13
Well that's only natural, you only have to buy the game once so huge sales early automatically mean less later on.
They still practically print money with the microtransactions.
1 Karlore473 2018-06-13
what the hell do you expect, 100 million people playing a shitty fps? it was clearly a success.
1 arandomloser21 2018-06-13
Implying this game will tank. It's a mainline battlefield game, not fucking hardline.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
shrug bf2 was a Star Wars game and tanked so hard EA had to make an emergency investor relations call
it still made money but that’s tanking to me
1 arandomloser21 2018-06-13
I agree it did tank to the extent it didn't sell as much as EA wanted to. The retarded lootbox system had a big hand in that though.
1 Karlore473 2018-06-13
the heated political battleground of fucking video games
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
ya the culture war is everywhere
sucks but no sense pretending otherwise
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-13
I love that you mongoloid children's game culture warriors take the bait and spend countless hours giving free advertising to toys that you hate.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
mmm yes my shitposting in /rdrama is gonna move whole pallets of BFV
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-13
🙄
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-13
🙄
1 UmmahSultan 2018-06-13
Steampunk cyborgs participating in WW2: not worth complaining about.
Women participating in WW2: [insert entire life story as part of overall complaint here].
1 hlary 2018-06-13
those types of prothetics existed back then tho https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/55/81/e75581a4c412e4bc72a717d4c35d4063.jpg
1 Voltar134 2018-06-13
C3po looking ass.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-13
Fucking dying.
1 arandomloser21 2018-06-13
/u/dasknackwurst
Can't wait for the next pasta when the next yearly FPS is released and you lose your marbles over "MUH WIMONZ!!!!"
1 MG87 2018-06-13
Just delete your account /u/dasknackwurst, maybe then a girl will suck your dick
1 hlary 2018-06-13
Imagine being radicalized by a fucking video game forum
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-13
Imagine? I'm living it.
1 siskonaut 2018-06-13
MY FELLOW GAMERS IT IS NOW TIME TO RISE UP AND CLEANSE OUR VIDYA OF THE STACIES THAT INFEST IT!!!
1 hiero_ 2018-06-13
Incel: "I don't understand why women won't fuck me!"
Same Incel: "WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE WOMEN IN BATTLEFIELD!?"
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-06-13
> buying triple A games in CURRENT YEAR+3
What a dork.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-13
I used to re-enact the battle of kursk using nothing more than soggy cheerios and a rubber band. Plus, I read this one book by David Irving that says Hitler didn't really do anything wrong!
1 AggressionSsb 2018-06-13
oh shit he deleted it who has it?