Lmao imagine being so humorless that not only do you not understand certain types of humor, but you actively seek and destroy humor elsewhere that you don't understand. src
I have played Battlefield since BF1942, and I have studied World War 2 since I was 5 years old. I majored in Economics at UCLA with a minor in German Studies, with a heavy focus on the Second World War. To call me “uneducated” because I want a reasonablly authentic game is completely uncalled for.
I played Battlefield 4 with the intent for 100% immersive realistic war experience. That's why I sit in a forward base in the desert for months, calling my friends gay, getting bored and buying bootleg DVDs from malnourished children as I complain about the heat constantly.
It's so immersive.
I didn't buy BF1 because I heard I wasn't going to be able to huddle in a trench for an entire year, waiting to die from weird foot infections or rat-bourne diseases. Not the WW1 immersion I looked forward to.
You're so triggered by the mere presence of non-white people that you're demanding a videogame about skydiving out of your own airplane then getting back in at the bottom of the dive be modified so you don't have to see them.
He says, as he demands that a videogame about skydiving from your own plane then getting into another person's plane mid-fall be modified to protect his white male fragility.
And if that doesn't succeed, I call for my fellow medics to join me in ignoring the cries for help from any player who does not look historically accurate.
Such a toggle would truly make this Everyone’s Battlefield.
I see it like this: Dice, by implementing such a feature, would not only be putting an end to this controversy, but would also be doing themselves a favor from a PR standpoint.
A good number of BF fans are pretty put off right now by EA/Dice’s response to the situation, and the addition of such a switch would really earn back some of our respect.
It just takes 2 settings to please everyone:
Setting 1: Authentic uniforms (outfits, weird prosthetic arms, face paint, etc. would be disabled client-side)
Setting 2: Authentic characters (inaccurate genders, races, etc. would be disabled client side)
Imagine being this upset about seeing brown people and women in a videogame about restoring blown-off heads with a defibrillator.
You seem even more bent out of shape than we do. It's not even that we're upset about customization. It's kind of a given lately. It's more about immersion through setting being completely shattered. I was fucking joking, but I understand why seeing a brown woman serving the fatherland would be a bit odd.
This whole thing where you mention feats of skill that weren't intended by developers to undermine my point about immersion through setting just to paint me as a racist is proving to be quite effective. Are you going to talk about brown people headglitching next?
Says the guy begging his "fellow medics" to do something real medics would never do - abandon their fellow soldiers because of their appearance. So much for muh realism.
Sorry, did I need a "/s" to convey sarcasm? My apologies, thought I did a half decent job coming up with a "Modest Proposal" kind of mock solution. Didn't mean to wind up on a drama subreddit of all things.
"I got pissed off by people who prefer a semblance of historical accuracy and blamed it on racism and sexism". You're one of those folks that get pissed off by the lack of colored folk in The Witcher and Kingdom Come, aren't you?
It doesn't. Take Battlefield 1, where we were shown the Harlem Hellfighters, a regiment composed primarily of African American and Puerto Rican soldiers. They were appropriately represented in multiplayer, as were Indian soldiers who fought for the British Empire. These groups fought and were well documented. Battlefield V is representing groups who did not exist in the context they are presented in.
I'm aware it's just a game. I've heard some people say that Mein Kampf is a book but that's an absolutely insane comparison. I care a lot less about this than others do, I just cracked a joke that someone couldn't fucking understand and lumped me in with a bunch of others he deemed sexist and racist. I'm just trying to show that side of the argument to people who will dismiss it anyways and insist I'm human garbage.
I was mentioned. Guess I brought some of that toxicity the fanbase has become known for. Kind of helps that I was introduced by being called a sexist and a racist.
It's more about immersion through setting being completely shattered.
I've seen this argument so many times, but if it's setting that bothering you, you should know that all the cosmetics (and genders and races!) are period appropriate. Women did serve in the military as did different races. Should honestly feel more immersive than BF1 with it's golden weapons and American soldiers wielding German guns and ottoman swords. Should definitely feel more immersive than bf1942 with it's expansion's jetpacks and fighter jets.
Show me the female black Nazi with a prosthetic arm and katana. This is seriously my only problem with the customization. I'm fully aware that it's period appropriate, but even then, it's a hell of a stretch for a British commando to go into battle with a sword (not everyone was Jack Churchill) or a cripple to fight on the frontlines.
The thing is, Dice doesn't faction lock anything. Meaning that If I can give you an example of any woman fighting in ww2 (i can), a black person fighting in ww2 (i can), someone with a prosthetic fighting in ww2 (i can), and a katana being used in combat (i can) across any theater or proportion, it is completely within Dice's MO to include it.
Aside from resistance fighters and Joan of Arc situations, let's hear about the women. I'd also like to hear about enlisted men being deployed despite having prosthetics as well as katanas being used in the European theater.
Again, you missed my entire point. Dice doesn't do faction specific content: meaning "resistance fighters and Joan of arc situations" will work for dice to include women for all factions. Likewise, katanas would not have to be used in the European theater for dice to justify using them there: if they were used in ww2 at all, it is perfectly in line with Dice in the past to include them for every theater.
As for prosthetics, here ya go (btw, I just did a very simple google search and provided the first link - there are undoubtedly more examples):
Look man, I'm just going to concede. You're clearly in the "it existed so why the fuck not" camp that I just don't see myself in. There have been examples of women and amputees serving, but if they were on the frontlines, it was an extraordinarily rare occurrence, and making them commonplace does a disservice to those who had the courage to be notable in history. DICE is clearly putting all of their nation's experience in the war front and center.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-14
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1 toynbeeidea16 2018-06-14
Trust me, you already do.
1 FaygoMakesMeGo 2018-06-14
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-14
Stop, you're killing him!
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-14
One cannot kill that which has no life.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-14
It's impossible they will bring them to you
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-14
You already turn off your loved ones, isn't that enough for you?
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-06-14
What loved ones
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-06-14
https://i.imgur.com/gb514SI.jpg
1 pvijay187 2018-06-14
Calling me uneducated is the last straw!
I have played Battlefield since BF1942, and I have studied World War 2 since I was 5 years old. I majored in Economics at UCLA with a minor in German Studies, with a heavy focus on the Second World War. To call me “uneducated” because I want a reasonablly authentic game is completely uncalled for.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-14
me too thanks
1 LadyVetinari 2018-06-14
came here to post this
1 WarSanchez 2018-06-14
^ This
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-14
Nice
1 walkerspider 2018-06-14
Nice
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-14
nOiCe
1 PantherChamp 2018-06-14
ur nice :D
;*
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-14
I purposely load up the chopper then drive into a mountain while screaming naruto anime ninja lines over mic
1 AlwaysFeral 2018-06-14
I played Battlefield 4 with the intent for 100% immersive realistic war experience. That's why I sit in a forward base in the desert for months, calling my friends gay, getting bored and buying bootleg DVDs from malnourished children as I complain about the heat constantly.
It's so immersive.
I didn't buy BF1 because I heard I wasn't going to be able to huddle in a trench for an entire year, waiting to die from weird foot infections or rat-bourne diseases. Not the WW1 immersion I looked forward to.
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-14
You didn't draw one dick that entire time.
Fake and exceedingly gay.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-14
Imagine thinking realism matters in a game where you jump into flying aircraft like an action hero.
1 485558 2018-06-14
Poor attempt at the navy seal pasta.
1 AggressionSsb 2018-06-14
The fucking title
1 BigBrownDog12 2018-06-14
What about it
1 Chicup 2018-06-14
The real reason to use this would be to pick whichever model was the easiest to see and then set that as your default.
Just think of the hit box of a tumblrina?
1 Awayfone 2018-06-14
Sadly DICE said women are the same size as men
1 WtfThisIsntWii 2018-06-14
The unintended side effect of this diversity and representation push in these online games is you kill way more girl characters than before.
1 Plexipus 2018-06-14
THIS IS LITERAL ERASURE
1 Tarrock 2018-06-14
I wish life worked this way
1 watermark02 2018-06-14
I've never not cared about something this much before.
1 TvvistedBow 2018-06-14
remember when games were about gameplay? I do.
1 Grizzeus 2018-06-14
Guess you never played a game with a good story
1 drift_summary 2018-06-14
Pepperidge Farm remembers!
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-14
well memed good sir, le upboats to you xD
1 SocialJusticeYamcha 2018-06-14
Anyone who complains about women or minorities in a non historical multiplayer game (especially one like bf) is retarded, don't @me
1 colonel-o-popcorn 2018-06-14
Denial
Anger
Bargaining <—— you are here
Grief
Acceptance
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-06-14
Maybe one should stay at the Anger step and start shooting people.
1 kippot 2018-06-14
It's just a matter of time
1 Osterion 2018-06-14
I hope they do this because the Kotaku article reporting about it would definitely use OPs title.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
/u/PTFOholland
/u/GrimboTheServant
/u/Natetendo83
You're so triggered by the mere presence of non-white people that you're demanding a videogame about skydiving out of your own airplane then getting back in at the bottom of the dive be modified so you don't have to see them.
Battlefield is not a historically accurate game.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
/u/RamblingUnited
He says, as he demands that a videogame about skydiving from your own plane then getting into another person's plane mid-fall be modified to protect his white male fragility.
/u/b055dj
You are the worst kind of team-game player
/u/YourFriendTheEND
Imagine being this upset about seeing brown people and women in a videogame about restoring blown-off heads with a defibrillator.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
You seem even more bent out of shape than we do. It's not even that we're upset about customization. It's kind of a given lately. It's more about immersion through setting being completely shattered. I was fucking joking, but I understand why seeing a brown woman serving the fatherland would be a bit odd.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
The immersion of piling 6 flamethrower guys on one horse is broken by seeing a brown person.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
Just so we're on the same page, you know that's a glitch, right?
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
The immersion of skydiving out of your own plane into another person's plane is broken by seeing a brown person in the other cockpit.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
This whole thing where you mention feats of skill that weren't intended by developers to undermine my point about immersion through setting just to paint me as a racist is proving to be quite effective. Are you going to talk about brown people headglitching next?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-06-14
Says the guy begging his "fellow medics" to do something real medics would never do - abandon their fellow soldiers because of their appearance. So much for muh realism.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
Sorry, did I need a "/s" to convey sarcasm? My apologies, thought I did a half decent job coming up with a "Modest Proposal" kind of mock solution. Didn't mean to wind up on a drama subreddit of all things.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
"I was only pretending to be retarded"
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
"I got pissed off by people who prefer a semblance of historical accuracy and blamed it on racism and sexism". You're one of those folks that get pissed off by the lack of colored folk in The Witcher and Kingdom Come, aren't you?
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
why does black people in an arcade shooter game upset you so much.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
It doesn't. Take Battlefield 1, where we were shown the Harlem Hellfighters, a regiment composed primarily of African American and Puerto Rican soldiers. They were appropriately represented in multiplayer, as were Indian soldiers who fought for the British Empire. These groups fought and were well documented. Battlefield V is representing groups who did not exist in the context they are presented in.
1 kippot 2018-06-14
Gamers really are the most oppressed group ever.
WHY CAN'T THESE FUCKING ROASTIES AND NIGGERS GTFO MY GAAAAYMEEE REEEEEEEEEEE
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
My grievance with the game is misrepresentation and that by addressing it, I'm painted as a sexist and a racist. Glad you understood.
1 kippot 2018-06-14
Stop obsessing about this shit.
Play the game or not, it's really that simple
It's a fucking video game
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
I'm aware it's just a game. I've heard some people say that Mein Kampf is a book but that's an absolutely insane comparison. I care a lot less about this than others do, I just cracked a joke that someone couldn't fucking understand and lumped me in with a bunch of others he deemed sexist and racist. I'm just trying to show that side of the argument to people who will dismiss it anyways and insist I'm human garbage.
1 kippot 2018-06-14
Well this isn't exactly the sub for seriousposting and/or effortposting
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
I was mentioned. Guess I brought some of that toxicity the fanbase has become known for. Kind of helps that I was introduced by being called a sexist and a racist.
1 kippot 2018-06-14
That passive aggressive thing is kinda funny, maybe you should continue posting
1 Brendanm132 2018-06-14
I've seen this argument so many times, but if it's setting that bothering you, you should know that all the cosmetics (and genders and races!) are period appropriate. Women did serve in the military as did different races. Should honestly feel more immersive than BF1 with it's golden weapons and American soldiers wielding German guns and ottoman swords. Should definitely feel more immersive than bf1942 with it's expansion's jetpacks and fighter jets.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
Show me the female black Nazi with a prosthetic arm and katana. This is seriously my only problem with the customization. I'm fully aware that it's period appropriate, but even then, it's a hell of a stretch for a British commando to go into battle with a sword (not everyone was Jack Churchill) or a cripple to fight on the frontlines.
1 Brendanm132 2018-06-14
The thing is, Dice doesn't faction lock anything. Meaning that If I can give you an example of any woman fighting in ww2 (i can), a black person fighting in ww2 (i can), someone with a prosthetic fighting in ww2 (i can), and a katana being used in combat (i can) across any theater or proportion, it is completely within Dice's MO to include it.
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
Aside from resistance fighters and Joan of Arc situations, let's hear about the women. I'd also like to hear about enlisted men being deployed despite having prosthetics as well as katanas being used in the European theater.
1 Brendanm132 2018-06-14
Again, you missed my entire point. Dice doesn't do faction specific content: meaning "resistance fighters and Joan of arc situations" will work for dice to include women for all factions. Likewise, katanas would not have to be used in the European theater for dice to justify using them there: if they were used in ww2 at all, it is perfectly in line with Dice in the past to include them for every theater.
As for prosthetics, here ya go (btw, I just did a very simple google search and provided the first link - there are undoubtedly more examples):
https://www.quora.com/In-WWII-did-soldiers-wear-prosthetics-in-battle
1 b055dj 2018-06-14
Look man, I'm just going to concede. You're clearly in the "it existed so why the fuck not" camp that I just don't see myself in. There have been examples of women and amputees serving, but if they were on the frontlines, it was an extraordinarily rare occurrence, and making them commonplace does a disservice to those who had the courage to be notable in history. DICE is clearly putting all of their nation's experience in the war front and center.
1 GrimboTheServant 2018-06-14
Last time I checked, women can be white.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
Oh, so not only are you triggered by minorities, but you're also triggered by roughly half of the world population.
1 GrimboTheServant 2018-06-14
Cry some more, bitch boy.
1 StingAuer 2018-06-14
I'm not the one trying to get brown people deleted from a videogame
1 GrimboTheServant 2018-06-14
lol OK then pal.