This is a full blown Trump derangment epidemic. You know who else gets seperated from their children? Every prisoner in every cell everywhere on the planet.
I mean the economy is still good, and people don’t really seem willing to die on the hill over abortion, transgender protections, or long-term public financing issues.
But pics of crying children are a staple in American politics for reason.
Obama's presidency was unironically the best thing for Trump; if he had left the country on fire the GOP would be struggling because of the cyclical nature of American politics.
Oh yea. Dem coming into a recession, fixing it with mainstream but very unpopular policies, ending with a lame-duck, two-term Democrat?
Leftists want to bitch about “how could Hillary lose to Trump, anyone could beat Trump” but the fact is that he’s one of the most popular Presidents among Republicans of all-time and had a great tailwind working for any GOP challenger.
Shame that Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are such shitty places to live that Hilldawg couldn’t convince any of her millions of illegal votes to go live there for election week.
I knew Trump would win regardless of how retarded he is because that's just how American politics works; it's rare for a president's successor to be from the same party.
Also, votes from illegal immigrants aren't real. Show me proof that it's a thing.
I’m meme-ing. California and New York told Trump to go fuck himself and still do on the regular.
Honestly, as an economist at the state level, I’ve been surprised how much I’ve been empowered since this new administration. That’s the conservative wet dream, sure. But it wasn’t a deliberate move; there’s just a massive vacuum right now.
Hes like a west Virginia Democrat. He's just a Republican that couldn't win the Republican nomination. Seriously he have sided with trump more than any other Democrat, even the Republican candidate in Alabama was going to be less of a lapdog
I knew Trump would win regardless of how retarded he is because that's just how American politics works; it's rare for a president's successor to be from the same party.
TFW you realize that you missed "History 2: Post reconstruction" and that whole run of presidents from Grant to Hoover (1869-1933)(Republicans: 11, Democrats : 3)
get beaten by some random old hillbilly from Vermont in high value swing states
dont even bother campaigning there after the primaries are over and instead do more campaign stops in fucking Brooklyn
wonder why trump won these states
At some point you really have to wonder if the dems even wanted to win. Like even bosses in video games cover their weakspots. How do you not realize that you should spend more time in places where you lost to a virtual nobody in the primary?
At some point you really have to wonder if the dems even wanted to win.
I figured they did
Like even bosses in video games cover their weakspots.
Do they though? I feel like there isn't a videogame out there where some basic genre-savviness would make the boss virtually invincible.
How do you not realize that you should spend more time in places where you lost to a virtual nobody in the primary?
Hillary won in Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Iowa and Pennsylvania in the primary, IIRC.
Sanders won New Hampshire in the primary, and then Hillary won New Hampshire in the general.
At the end of the day, her strategy relied on her winning either Florida or Pennsylvania, which up until a week before the election, looked like it was leaning that way. It would've just been bad math to visit Wisconsin or Michigan, since they don't really matter in the election math.
how on earth is "our opponents set up concentration camps for children" not a good midterm talking point? you do realize some people take issue with child prisons, right?
i mean democrats are retards so theyre probably still gonna make their big issue ""russia"" but that doesnt contradict my point that "we are the party that isnt setting up concentration camps for children" is a strong thing to be able to campaign on. it's sort of weird how you keep trying to imply it isnt like it's just supposed to be obvious why "we arent pro-child concentration camp" isnt actually a good reason to vote for that side in a two-party system.
The people who are concerned with not being part of the party of child concentration camps were already going to vote blue.
This isn't going to be some key issue that sways people. Obviously we have to wait for results but I am quiet confident this won't have any significant impact.
i think it will matter for turnout. obviously everyone who went red last election is tacitly or explicitly in favor of the consolidation of white political power, and the concentration camps further that project, so youre right that it won't flip a lot of people, but people will turn the fuck out to vote "for the children." whatever happens, everyone will find a particular interpretation of a particular poll that justifies whatever narrative they want to push, so we'll never actually know who was right.
There's no pre-trail stage for so called "illegals" whose separation from their children in 2011 was probably just as painful as the separations in 2018. The only discernable difference is the Animal Totem to which these children are being sacrificed. Apparently the Donkey (some say Jackass) God is a Jealous God and wishes to keep all of that tender young flesh to itself and does not like to share the children any more than it likes to share power.
Bonus points when you realize that the same spokespuppet for the agency which you're railing against today was giving out the same patter in 2011..
Puppet-dents come and go. The Bureaucracy remains.
Well they usually either at least kept the families together in the case of illegal entry or for asylum requests at legal points of entry they were usually released to family.
In any case if you’re really concerned with flight maybe an ankle bracelet would be a more cost effective and humane way to treat other humans.
Obama explicitly tried to prevent this kind of thing with DAPA (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans), a counterpart of DACA, but the Trump admin rescinded it.
Part of the issue is that people seeking political asylum aren't prisoners.
The other part is the general lack of any empathy at all. Like, yo, how hard would it be to say "hmm, that's terrible, we're looking into solutions to inprove conditions and once the committe to review the plabs has been convened, we'll get right on it." Not, "fuck you, not my fault, the Dems did this."
Buddy of mine does immigration law in San Antonio. His favorite story is of getting a woman asylum so she wasn't forced to go back to South america to be killed by gangs. So yeah, they fucking do.
Total collapse? Socialism and the far left have been systematically stamped out for the past 100 years. Recently, its becoming less and less of a taboo with people like bernie sanders and jeremy corby freely admitting to being socialists uprooting decades of red scare propaganda. Make no mistske, the democrats are not "the left" they are centre right wing and suprisingly close to the republican party in terms of ideology, classical liberalism. The democrats may not be doing great, but the left is. There basically was no left in America for decades, but with it becoming less of a taboo and the excelerating income inequality propegated by frequent market crashes is resulting in more and more people becoming aware of the deep flaws of capitalism.
lmao you owned half the globe up until the 90's. Not our fault you fucked it up hard.
But it seems today that the worker's are abandoning socialism anyway in favor of the far right. And im talking about the European ones, where the left used to have actual support among the working class. But even that is dead now, and only the far right and center right remain.
Non warsaw pact europe was socialist? Lmao no. Even in ex warsaw pact countries everything people complain about is things we lost during the fall of communism, healthcare workplace democracy etc. Trust me im from one of these countries. Only immigration is pushing people to the right, and once people see that kicking out the immigrants hasn't solved the rampant inequality and flaws of capitalism do you think they will stay with the right?
I was talking about the left-wing support in Europe. But it's completely dead now. The left is in total decline now, and the formerly commie countries have become bastions of unapologetic far right power (not surprisingly, because they had to live through that garbage system). So what do you have left? Where is the left of today? It's nowhere, and it's going nowhere. It has no future left.
and once people see that kicking out the immigrants hasn't solved the rampant inequality and flaws of capitalism do you think they will stay with the right?
Well it certainly isn't driving them to the left. Really, it's the same as with the 2008 economic crisis when the left also couldn't figure out why people weren't turning socialist. It's because they're too dumb and too arrogant to admit that their entire theoretical basis is flawed.
the criminal justice system in general is fucked up and should be rebuilt from the ground up, but it still is not generally in the habit of locking 6-year-olds in cages and then telling them they arent allowed to hug each other. like there are degrees of depravity here
Someone called me out on my retarded statement, so I'll make a completely different statement and fake quote
I know you're subhumanly stupid, but you realize that you're the one that said "concentration camp". Everyone except brain-damaged retards know the connotation of that word.
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1 nanonan 2018-06-18
This is a full blown Trump derangment epidemic. You know who else gets seperated from their children? Every prisoner in every cell everywhere on the planet.
1 istural 2018-06-18
Normally, I laugh at TD posters, but I sorta agree.
Of course this is all political posturing for election season.
I wonder if monarchies ever have these hysterical freak outs ever two years?
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-18
Its funny and sad that this is the best issue Demo's can come up with for midterms.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-18
If all else fails, go back to, BUT THINK OF DEH CHILDRENS!!
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
I mean the economy is still good, and people don’t really seem willing to die on the hill over abortion, transgender protections, or long-term public financing issues.
But pics of crying children are a staple in American politics for reason.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Obama's presidency was unironically the best thing for Trump; if he had left the country on fire the GOP would be struggling because of the cyclical nature of American politics.
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
Oh yea. Dem coming into a recession, fixing it with mainstream but very unpopular policies, ending with a lame-duck, two-term Democrat?
Leftists want to bitch about “how could Hillary lose to Trump, anyone could beat Trump” but the fact is that he’s one of the most popular Presidents among Republicans of all-time and had a great tailwind working for any GOP challenger.
Shame that Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are such shitty places to live that Hilldawg couldn’t convince any of her millions of illegal votes to go live there for election week.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
I knew Trump would win regardless of how retarded he is because that's just how American politics works; it's rare for a president's successor to be from the same party.
Also, votes from illegal immigrants aren't real. Show me proof that it's a thing.
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
I’m meme-ing. California and New York told Trump to go fuck himself and still do on the regular.
Honestly, as an economist at the state level, I’ve been surprised how much I’ve been empowered since this new administration. That’s the conservative wet dream, sure. But it wasn’t a deliberate move; there’s just a massive vacuum right now.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Tbh I'm just surprised that a Democrat son in Alabama.
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
We’re a simple, reactionary folk, us Americans.
1 HyundaiPR 2018-06-18
Hes like a west Virginia Democrat. He's just a Republican that couldn't win the Republican nomination. Seriously he have sided with trump more than any other Democrat, even the Republican candidate in Alabama was going to be less of a lapdog
1 LightUmbra 2018-06-18
WV dems are a dying breed. WV still has Joe Manchin but he's basically the last.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-18
TFW you realize that you missed "History 2: Post reconstruction" and that whole run of presidents from Grant to Hoover (1869-1933)(Republicans: 11, Democrats : 3)
LOL
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-06-18
During that period it didn't matter though, both parties were moreorless identical post-Grant.
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Rare in recent history, m8.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-18
Dont confuse "leftists" with those fucking corporate fucks who support that corporate whore.
A good portion of the country would have literally voted for Osama Bin Laden before voting for any Clinton, let alone Hillary.
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
People who bitch about “corporate this” or “corporate that” are 99% of the time losers and just trolling the other 1%.
1 HyundaiPR 2018-06-18
At some point you really have to wonder if the dems even wanted to win. Like even bosses in video games cover their weakspots. How do you not realize that you should spend more time in places where you lost to a virtual nobody in the primary?
1 soinavoice 2018-06-18
I figured they did
Do they though? I feel like there isn't a videogame out there where some basic genre-savviness would make the boss virtually invincible.
Hillary won in Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Iowa and Pennsylvania in the primary, IIRC.
Sanders won New Hampshire in the primary, and then Hillary won New Hampshire in the general.
At the end of the day, her strategy relied on her winning either Florida or Pennsylvania, which up until a week before the election, looked like it was leaning that way. It would've just been bad math to visit Wisconsin or Michigan, since they don't really matter in the election math.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-18
how on earth is "our opponents set up concentration camps for children" not a good midterm talking point? you do realize some people take issue with child prisons, right?
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-18
How far away are midterms?
And they've just now come up with their big issue with Trump?
And this is that "big issue".
Really? Really...
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-18
i mean democrats are retards so theyre probably still gonna make their big issue ""russia"" but that doesnt contradict my point that "we are the party that isnt setting up concentration camps for children" is a strong thing to be able to campaign on. it's sort of weird how you keep trying to imply it isnt like it's just supposed to be obvious why "we arent pro-child concentration camp" isnt actually a good reason to vote for that side in a two-party system.
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-18
The people who are concerned with not being part of the party of child concentration camps were already going to vote blue.
This isn't going to be some key issue that sways people. Obviously we have to wait for results but I am quiet confident this won't have any significant impact.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-18
i think it will matter for turnout. obviously everyone who went red last election is tacitly or explicitly in favor of the consolidation of white political power, and the concentration camps further that project, so youre right that it won't flip a lot of people, but people will turn the fuck out to vote "for the children." whatever happens, everyone will find a particular interpretation of a particular poll that justifies whatever narrative they want to push, so we'll never actually know who was right.
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-18
Friendly wager...
Midterm voter turnout will not be more than average.
1 crefakis 2018-06-18
American politics is a special kind of circus the entire world watches with a sort of confused fascination.
You guys do the spectacle better than any other country I know of.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-18
Well they usually don’t lock up the perp and their kids during the pre trial stage so not exactly analogous.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-18
There's no pre-trail stage for so called "illegals" whose separation from their children in 2011 was probably just as painful as the separations in 2018. The only discernable difference is the Animal Totem to which these children are being sacrificed. Apparently the Donkey (some say Jackass) God is a Jealous God and wishes to keep all of that tender young flesh to itself and does not like to share the children any more than it likes to share power.
Bonus points when you realize that the same spokespuppet for the agency which you're railing against today was giving out the same patter in 2011..
Puppet-dents come and go. The Bureaucracy remains.
1 DayAcanthaceae 2018-06-18
What? When someone is arrested they're put in jail before trial.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-18
A)it’s a misdemeanor which generally doesn’t require going to jail and
b)most people are released on their own recognizance or their bail is set at a relatively small dollar amount after they’re processed.
1 DayAcanthaceae 2018-06-18
A) it does in this case, though
b) people are released on bail if they're unlikely to flee trial
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-18
Well they usually either at least kept the families together in the case of illegal entry or for asylum requests at legal points of entry they were usually released to family. In any case if you’re really concerned with flight maybe an ankle bracelet would be a more cost effective and humane way to treat other humans.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-06-18
Not to mention everything they are whining about is a Obama remnant. Lol
http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5
1 atsteak 2018-06-18
Obama explicitly tried to prevent this kind of thing with DAPA (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans), a counterpart of DACA, but the Trump admin rescinded it.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-06-18
You realize, under the Obama administration, more people were deported than under any president ever correct?
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1 siempreloco31 2018-06-18
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1 HailSanta2512 2018-06-18
HATE FACTS! FUCK OFF NAZI SHILL OBAMA DID NOTHING WRONG REEE
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Strawman lol.
1 HailSanta2512 2018-06-18
Americans are beautiful creatures 😍
1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Please don't call me an American, thanks.
1 BigPriceToupee 2018-06-18
Obama talked out of both sides of his mouth. Explicitly.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-18
Yeah, no.
Part of the issue is that people seeking political asylum aren't prisoners.
The other part is the general lack of any empathy at all. Like, yo, how hard would it be to say "hmm, that's terrible, we're looking into solutions to inprove conditions and once the committe to review the plabs has been convened, we'll get right on it." Not, "fuck you, not my fault, the Dems did this."
1 SovietWarfare 2018-06-18
Oh god what a prison! How could we ever allow this!?!?!
http://www.heraldnews.com/storyimage/WL/20180614/OPINION/180618322/AR/0/AR-180618322.jpg
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-18
Did you respond to the wrong person, or are you just listening to the voices in your head again?
1 SovietWarfare 2018-06-18
Are you normally this retarded or are you trying extra hard today?
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-18
Don't make thia about me. I'm not the crazy person here.
Seriously, you need to see someone about those voices. I'm saying this as a friend.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-18
There are no “political asylum” seekers sneaking over the Mexican border, you nimrod. They’re just fucking border jumpers.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-18
Buddy of mine does immigration law in San Antonio. His favorite story is of getting a woman asylum so she wasn't forced to go back to South america to be killed by gangs. So yeah, they fucking do.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-18
Immigration law, lol. What a loser.
1 solastsummer 2018-06-18
What a LOGICAL and FACT BASED response. Shapiro would be proud.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-18
Immigration is bottom-feeder law. Lawyers who can't do real work, so they sell out their own nation to invaders for pesos. Pathetic.
1 WinterTeaching 2018-06-18
Funny how they always go to the US, even though there are literally dozens of safe South American countries.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-06-18
Oh?
You thinking maybe Mexico? It's got a little drug war going on, if you didn't notice.
1 WinterTeaching 2018-06-18
Most of Mexico is safe, not to mention Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Peru, Uruguay, Ecuador, and many others.
1 nanonan 2018-06-18
Right, because there is no drug war in America.
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1 pitterpatterwater 2018-06-18
Imagine a literal pedophile like MAGAMMEMNON saying this.
1 Wegwerf540 2018-06-18
Ah yes the country with the highest incarceration rate in history is totally normal
1 nanonan 2018-06-18
Name the country that doesn't seperate families when they lock one family member up. Hint: the initials are N.K.
1 HyundaiPR 2018-06-18
We have the most non-whites of any functioning country too. Makes you think
1 Wegwerf540 2018-06-18
Fuck off nazi
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1 PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 2018-06-18
Man when these kids in the cage go radicalize under ISIL and bomb the scenic nothing that is Texas in a decade, you're going to still be dumb as hell.
1 nanonan 2018-06-18
You're a fantastic advocate for letting them in.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-18
Hey u/Ultrashitposter you and u/communistshitpost should duke it out(assuming that’s not one your alts)
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-18
nah he doesn't have my charm
1 communistshitpost 2018-06-18
Smrt fasizmu
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-18
How's the left doing these days? I heard it's in total collapse to the benefit of the far right.
1 communistshitpost 2018-06-18
Total collapse? Socialism and the far left have been systematically stamped out for the past 100 years. Recently, its becoming less and less of a taboo with people like bernie sanders and jeremy corby freely admitting to being socialists uprooting decades of red scare propaganda. Make no mistske, the democrats are not "the left" they are centre right wing and suprisingly close to the republican party in terms of ideology, classical liberalism. The democrats may not be doing great, but the left is. There basically was no left in America for decades, but with it becoming less of a taboo and the excelerating income inequality propegated by frequent market crashes is resulting in more and more people becoming aware of the deep flaws of capitalism.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-18
lmao you owned half the globe up until the 90's. Not our fault you fucked it up hard. But it seems today that the worker's are abandoning socialism anyway in favor of the far right. And im talking about the European ones, where the left used to have actual support among the working class. But even that is dead now, and only the far right and center right remain.
1 communistshitpost 2018-06-18
Non warsaw pact europe was socialist? Lmao no. Even in ex warsaw pact countries everything people complain about is things we lost during the fall of communism, healthcare workplace democracy etc. Trust me im from one of these countries. Only immigration is pushing people to the right, and once people see that kicking out the immigrants hasn't solved the rampant inequality and flaws of capitalism do you think they will stay with the right?
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-18
I was talking about the left-wing support in Europe. But it's completely dead now. The left is in total decline now, and the formerly commie countries have become bastions of unapologetic far right power (not surprisingly, because they had to live through that garbage system). So what do you have left? Where is the left of today? It's nowhere, and it's going nowhere. It has no future left.
Well it certainly isn't driving them to the left. Really, it's the same as with the 2008 economic crisis when the left also couldn't figure out why people weren't turning socialist. It's because they're too dumb and too arrogant to admit that their entire theoretical basis is flawed.
1 error404brain 2018-06-18
The left is dead and we killed it.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-18
“Undocumented adults should be housed with random children who may or may not be theirs. Possibly given cheez pizza also.” - Democrats
1 allendrio 2018-06-18
As a foreigner its been pretty great watching american Christians fall over themselves to justify child concentration camps.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-18
It's to help them concentrate
1 muck4doo 2018-06-18
Indeed. They're gassing and raping them all in there.The children and adults should experience it together, and not apart.
1 Contemo 2018-06-18
Bitch please, I've been to Mauthausen; these kids might have a shit time but it's better than carrying a stone block up short stairs.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-06-18
I love how you people don't give two shits about the criminal justice system until major media gives it to you on a plate.
1 allendrio 2018-06-18
I love how conservatives think literally everybody is virtue signalling rather than having actual morals.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-18
the criminal justice system in general is fucked up and should be rebuilt from the ground up, but it still is not generally in the habit of locking 6-year-olds in cages and then telling them they arent allowed to hug each other. like there are degrees of depravity here
1 DayAcanthaceae 2018-06-18
Given education, entertainment, well fed, good hygiene.
"Concentration camp"
1 allendrio 2018-06-18
1 DayAcanthaceae 2018-06-18
I know you're subhumanly stupid, but you realize that you're the one that said "concentration camp". Everyone except brain-damaged retards know the connotation of that word.
1 allendrio 2018-06-18
better make effort posts to prove them wrong
1 muck4doo 2018-06-18
Why stop there? Shouldn't everyone sent to jail or prison have their children be able to come along?