The good men: inside the all-male group taking on modern masculinity

32  2018-06-18 by Starship_Litterbox_C

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In the hometown of Jordan Peterson, the evangelist of white male resentment

And stopped reading.

Bonus bonus points for being pseudo-gonzo journalism about some guys sitting on couches at Lululemon.

It’s like gonzo journalism, but not manly or cool in any way

White male fragility detected.

this but completely and utterly unironically

memerson mcmemefag

Clean your room ed

Come on ed, I love you but you can meme better than this.

its not about being offended its about using your time constructively by not reading stupid peoples shit

Yeah, I guess a bunch of men talking about their issues is pretty stupid.

This but unironically

they arent men though

like look at the picture of the guy leading the group, it takes work to have that many muscles and tattoos and still look like a huge fag you could push over and hed cry

😤This must be some of the toxic ☠️ ☢️ masculinity 💩 the terfs tried to warn me about. Cool it with the misandry.

the only toxic masculinity that im convinced exists is this self castrating apologetic martyr faggotry thats trying to convince men they have original penis sin

if women are afraid its their own fault

If their idea of masculinity doesn't lead them to lash out in ways that hurt themselves, then it's not toxic.

it does hurt men to demonize everything that makes them men

just look at how many of these male feminist fags there are now

The only reason people discuss masculinity at all is that you guys can't handle your shit without going on rampages or killing yourselves. Fix your own problems or deal with people putting their two cents in. Men can't pull it together and help each other because you are too busy policing each other's manhood. No one is handwringing about a crisis of femininity because we don't shoot up schools.

The only reason people discuss masculinity at all is that you guys can't handle your shit without going on rampages or killing yourselves.

lol just like black people and muslims right

or is it just a safe target because youre too weak to confront the real issues

there is literally nothing wrong with masculinity, when men snap its indicative of the natural order being disrupted by stupid people- not any problem with what they are inherently

notice how this shit was far rarer when society worked properly and wasnt controlled by degenerates and feminists

No one is handwringing about a crisis of femininity because we don't shoot up schools.

nah you just poison people and stab them in their sleep or kill your children, thats far better

the only reason men go the direct route more is that theyre stronger and have more convction

lol just like black people and muslims right

Just like Muslim and Black men.

there is literally nothing wrong with masculinity, when men snap its indicative of the natural order being disrupted by stupid people- not any problem with what they are inherently

Ok, but when that's thrown out there the same stupid people are going to give their opinion and you're going to have people talk about shit like toxic masculinity. And, you're going to have half-baked ideas like drumming and hug circles for men. Especially since it's always anything but the guns so this complaining about men and masculinity is somewhat self-inflicted. It's your idea to blame society, so you want society to do what?

nah you just poison people and stab them in their sleep or kill your children, thats far better

That's not the kind of violence people are afraid of though. I don't care if Betsy poisons her husband, I care if a psycho with a gun is going to show up while I'm trying to watch a damn movie. That's what the average person thinks.

the only reason men go the direct route more is that theyre stronger and have more convction

Honor culture and poor impulse control. Symptoms of depression in men are totally different than they are in women. Because more women try to get help, the way women experience depression has probably become the default. Men show more anger when they are depressed.

Black men.

yeah those woke queenz are so peaceful

http://wjla.com/news/crime/black-woman-ride-on-bus-attack-white-people

cmon

stupid people are going to give their opinion and you're going to have people talk about shit like toxic masculinity.

sure but as long as everyone knows its a false idea in the first place it can be summarily ignored when it comes up much like we do with a range of topics

It's your idea to blame society, so you want society to do what?

improve mental health services and focus more attention on mens health, rather than spending all the money coddling women so they remain mental children

That's not the kind of violence people are afraid of though.

did you see what was happening in south korea

Honor culture and poor impulse control.

are you trying to tell me you think women have better impulse control than men? because infidelity statistics would suggest otherwise

If I'm caught in the crossfire of a gang shooting, it's not likely to be the Cripiennes and the Bloodettes waving their penis extenders around shooting each other and bystanders up. It's going to be a bunch of black dudes.

It's useful to talk about toxic gender roles because sometimes people, men and women, feel like they're broken or not enough when it's their socialization and (sub)culture that's fucked up. Sometimes we need to call bullshit on bullshit. It's only toxic when it hurts the person who has absorbed it.

improve mental health services and focus more attention on mens health, rather than spending all the money coddling women so they remain mental children

Dude, do you think people handed women the stuff they've gotten? At one point, no one gave a fuck if the factory supervisor diddled the mill girl or Joe from accounting grabbed his secretary's ass. People just didn't suddenly find Jesus and start treating women better. Women raised holy hell and got what they wanted. Now, a bunch of grumbling dudes get shuffled off to listen to an HR harpy lecture them about sexual harassment every year. Because otherwise, all hell could break loose. Do you think that's their idea so they can coddle women? Fuck no.

And, if you care about men's mental health, don't call men who are trying to find their own healing faggots. Pull together like the broads do when they want something. A guy who grew up in a neighborhood where men are taught to never let a slight or an insult go probably does need to identify harmful ideas that they have about masculinity. They aren't dickless fags, they're trying to find happiness like everyone else.

are you trying to tell me you think women have better impulse control than men? because infidelity statistics would suggest otherwise

Yes, men have the type of poor impulse control that leads to their killing someone in a road rage and engaging in harmful risky behavior. Young guy's brains mature slower than women's. That isn't bad, because there are lots of good things about taking risks and not overthinking everything. That's why women are more neurotic than men. They just need to learn some coping mechanism and we need to question honor culture that normalizes violent acting out. Because men are the victims when they are violent also.

The tattoos do not impress me one bit. If you want a sleeve, buy a fucking sweatshirt!

especially "good boys"

"men"

And here I thought men's insecurities leading them to police each other's masculinity was an exaggerated stereotype invented by feminists. Live and learn.

And here I thought

Shhhhhhhhhhh. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Sorry, I didn't know thinking was another thing too faggy for real men to do.

Just the way you do it.

Wow, sounds like you aren't acknowledging your feminine side and your womb envy. You need a naked men's drumming circle to get in touch with your inner bussy.

Said the /r/drama poster

im fine with spending my time reading autistic shit

cool- next time I see some racist shit against black people and black people get upset I'll just say "black fragility" ... works for me yea...

You read too far

the fact that most mass shootings are committed by socially isolated white men.

This fact is linked to a Motherjones article, which is using data sourced from Motherjones, and it doesn’t include (from a quick glace) any shootings that are gang related. Oh and it is only US data that is included, and while it is tracking skin color and mental health there is no word on “social isolation” besides the fact that the are all nut jobs

Sooo yeah

Both Motherjones and slate has refuted the idea white men are over-represented in mass shootings, tbh.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/10/what_the_white_mass_shooter_myth_gets_right_and_wrong_about_killers_demographics.html

The second I see the term "white male" thrown in this context I Trump white nationalist Charlottesville Cheeto Hitler

After his Huddle session on emotional literacy, Alex Cameron, the therapist, showed me his tattoos. I’d assumed they were a relic from some previous life as a bouncer or lumberjack. It turns out he got them on graduating his master’s in social work. One arm depicts a dragon, symbol of virility; the other, a phoenix, which in Chinese mythology signifies feminine grace.“We have opposing sides within us,” Cameron said. Harmony, he believes, must come from “embracing our entire self”.

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There are gay people having sex right now that are less gay than this.

dunno man, he seems radically in the middle

his tattoos. I’d assumed they were a relic from some previous life as a bouncer or lumberjack

lets not overlook this tremendous little-dickedness on the part of the interviewer

Wait till he learne sailors get lots of tats

I have COCK tattooed on my left knuckles and BSSY tattooed on my right

Peak soy. Imagine thinking it's the 60s amd tattoos are hard to get or meaningful.

How many sex offenders are in there? I bet at least 5

"I bet every man in here has a story about how they’ve mistreated a woman,” the facilitator prodded. After a deafening silence, one man threw up his hands. “I know I’ve done some foul shit.”

I'm guessing all of them.

male feminists become male feminists at some point because in the past they've likely actually raped or assaulted women. they project that guilt onto all men.

imagine actually projecting so hard that you believe every single man in a group of men has abused a woman at some point.

the more pathetic twitter style ones just have the urges, and then assume all men everywhere also have those urges and what differentiates them is their virtue signalling

One time, I had sex with a girl that wasn't my girlfriend.

discusting

Perera, 42, worked part-time for Next Gen Men, a non-profit that works with teenage boys to get them thinking outside the gender box.

🤔🤔🤔

a gay pedo?

Christ, that just has MOLESTED written all over it.

Being a Catholic priest sounds more trustworthy than that

I bet at least all of them.

It's as if they don't want to elimate "toxic males", but they want to eliminate shit that men with confidence do. And the people who complain the most about this shit are people who benefit the most, people who know that without "toxic masculinity" they wouldnt have a relevency, and people who are the by-product of men's desires (models, porn stars, etc) knowing that they are just another easily replaced tire on the van of fame and popularity.

Im supportive of getting rid of the truly "toxic (what a stupid term)", but streach that rubber band too far and it will snap back and break your wrist.

The appeal of feminism for men is supposed to be that traditional gender roles are so strict that it affords greater freedom of identity. I can jive with that. But the simple fact is that if you look around at male feminists, they ain't made up of all kinds of guys.

You're going to find a lot of Nintendo gaming, a lot of lazy sarcasm, a lot of guys who get their entire sense of humor from Dr. Who and the MCU, and guys who think its clever and LOL XD RANDOM to say "because reasons". Pardon me if I don't want any part of this shit.

You're describing a Reddit meetup. Really any online meetup actually

my life's dream is to be a giant monument of testosterone composed of rippling muscle, and bang lots of good looking sluts.

Honestly, why should anyone listen to a bunch of dudes who barely managed to convince themselves they aren't emotionally stunted losers anymore, last Tuesday.

Somehow the comments are decent.

“It’s allowed male feminists like myself to come out of the shadows,” Michael Kehler, a University of Calgary masculinities studies professor, told me by phone.

Oh dear

Could he sound any more predatory?

“I described him as the ‘televangelist of toxic masculinity’. I said to the guys, ‘He’s like Cobra Commander from GI Joe – he has to have his supervillain logo on everything from his helicopter to his evil headquarters at Trump Tower’. One of the boys looked at me with kind of a deadpan stare, and was like, ‘That’s actually kind of cool’. It was this moment where I had a crisis of faith. I realized that the movement is failing.”

Btfo by 13 year old bantz

The coolness quotient of the pro-feminist men’s world, at least in the eyes of the average adolescent male, is rather low. Attendees of the annual conference put on by the National Organization of Men Against Sexism are likely to be treated to rousing renditions of songs like “Let the Woman In You Come Through” or “Womb Envy”.

Jesus H Christ

There is a certain subset of men that will pay to be told that they're worthless scum, but they generally want women to be the ones doing it.

The coolness quotient of the pro-feminist men’s world, at least in the eyes of the average adolescent male, is rather low. Attendees of the annual conference put on by the National Organization of Men Against Sexism are likely to be treated to rousing renditions of songs like “Let the Woman In You Come Through” or “Womb Envy”.

https://youtu.be/1PqzGSg3Y74?t=36

ahahahahahahaha

Is this about the good man project?

Pretty much the same thing.

Oh...

Yep, welcome to the new millennial model of the holier than thou fundamentalist church goer of the mid 20th century.

I have noticed parallels.

I kived through part of that time, yet I still don't remember quite as many obese bugmen among the fundamentalists.

But without any sort of tradition or faith. Brilliant!

We wanted to find a way to bring people together who might be hesitant about showing up for a conversation on vulnerability,” Pablico said. “Sweating together first helps it come naturally. Once you suffer together in a workout, you begin to bond and a layer of the mask comes off. It’s then a little easier to chat afterwards over a beer. Or a kombucha.

Oh this is gold. If they keep it up this is gonna do wonders for dramacoin.

Da fuq is a kombucha?

Water with a yeast infection, basically.

It tastes like tea that has gone bad and I will never be convinced otherwise

Hey, Pilates is actually a pretty tough workout! Don't laugh!

wtf is kombucha anyway? Really old tea bags?

Imagine thinking exercise is suffering.

“We put out a lot of statistics about the unfortunate realities women go through, which are important for men to hear,” Perera said. “The problem is a lot of men don’t want to hear some expert telling them what a shitty person they are. They’re like, ‘Yeah, I wasn’t planning on raping anyone today, so peace out’.”

Imagine coming so close to self awareness only to just leave it on the table.

The truth repels them.

Why the fuck do male feminists treat it as such a glorious revelation that you can cry as a man? Every time they talk about crying they're like, "I always thought that men weren't allowed to cry or show emotions." What do you mean, "not allowed"? Is the Patriarchy Police going to arrest you because you went to the roller rink in short shorts and rainbow socks?

We have our eye on you.

Signed, the patriarchy police.

Big Papa is watching.

I cried in the theater when Bruce Willis exploded himself to save humanity in Armageddon, no lie.

What are you trying to say? That men don't give other men shit for crying or that men in general don't police each other's masculinity? This entire thread is a pretty good example to the contrary.

everyone forgets the reduce in reduce, reuse, recycle

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Are you genuinely mentally challenged? Please use whatever little brain cells you have left after your glue huffing addiction to think a little bit before posting something as stupid as this again. Thanks and have a nice evening.

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why did the guardian have become so shit?

10 years ago they were a respectable newspaper

The aliens watching us got bored that there hasnt been a ww3 so they are turning it up to 11

And here we have the reason leftist parties struggle with male voters. And why they insist on screaming about how horribly conservative parties do with women...even though they do far worse with men.

I dunno... there was a time the left was interested in defending working class people. But then some lib.arts major started sperging about "muh workersim"

“I bet every man in here has a story about how they’ve mistreated a woman,” the facilitator prodded. After a deafening silence, one man threw up his hands. “I know I’ve done some foul shit.”

Can't they just admit that just because they're fucked up, it doesn't mean everyone else is too?

“It’s allowed male feminists like myself to come out of the shadows,”

I'm sure all of this is unrelated

Eventually I'm going to start one of these groups as an excuse to drink bourbon, play golf, and go to the strip club.

"Sorry sweetie, this is a safe space for men to contemplate our toxic masculinity. We have to be free to express ourselves in order to properly feel guilty about what our gender has done, and to do that we need absolute secrecy about the goings-on of our meetings."

Who's a good boy? You are!

This is evidence we are living in a simulation.

Men are never going to shop at lulu, why are they bothering?

It’s allowed male feminists like myself to come out of the shadows

Yes, when you're accused of sexual harrasment it does usually take you out of the shadows.