/u/onideus01 the fact you got mass voted and gold for your post comparing nuremburg trials to a this shit is not only a grotesque hand-wave to Jews but also the biggest symbol of why the left needs a massive identity change and has lost complete touch with the world.
I typically ignore most responses, but your well structured reply felt as if it warranted the same in return.
You missed the entire point of my having quoted that if your take-away was that I was trying to gesture to the trials themselves. I just wanted to provide context to the quote. The reality is that when you begin to have individuals forcing suffering (emotional or otherwise) on others without remorse or empathy, it is, at least on its surface, evil.
Sure, the individuals in the trials performed some extraordinarily horrifying acts, and I'm in no way trying to minimize the suffering of the Jewish people; instead, I wanted to have others consider that most in the trials didn't start with the final acts in mind. Gradual progression lead many to do things I'd argue they would not have done were it presented to them at the start.
Finally, while I do find myself identifying more with progressive leaning policies, there are still several conservative policies that I think bring benefits to the entire country. We need to hear voices from all sides, not just an "us versus them" dichotomy. This policy, however, needs to stop now.
As an additional note, I apologize if the use of the quote was misinterpreted from what I was trying to convey and upset yourself or others. I've been watching way too many WWII documentaries lately and I've been surprised with some of the parallels that exist with today (circa 1930-33 specifically).
No, they already lived there, under the Weimar Republic. They were either imprisoned or forcefully ejected from the country once the Nazi Party came to power.
However, in your parallel, that makes the United States Nazi Germany, which I never claimed to be the case. The separation of families is evil, regardless of whether you believe they should be allowed into the country.
The separation of families is evil, regardless of whether you believe they should be allowed into the country.
So what's the proposed solution? I have not spent too much time looking, but in about 5 minutes of skimming through that thread I saw not a single constructive comment.
Cooperation between countries in disrupting human trafficking that is the single cause of this phenomena and in these numbers. Mexicans specifically, to get off their lazy bums and do something useful.
Immediate strategic assistance to places and regions these people come from as I understand it’s just two countries.
All the funds collected to flame American political divisions – starting from Congress, Senate and local political money - to be directed toward establishing Government and non-Government umbrella organization to solve the problem via “nip in the bud” approach. The “help them there so you don’t have to help them here” approach.
Collect all the lazy Amerifats on this side of the wall who waste time being outraged in front of social media and put them to work that will act as missionaries to improve family responsibility, civic duties and overall citizen democratic participation in the countries of origin. Two benefits – get rid of annoying overly empathic douchebags AND show potential immigrants what their kids might turn into. I kid, but for real… if you want to help, you help where it’s needed.
Immediate strategic assistance to places and regions these people come from as I understand it’s just two countries.
All the funds collected to flame American political divisions – starting from Congress, Senate and local political money - to be directed toward establishing Government and non-Government umbrella organization to solve the problem via “nip in the bud” approach. The “help them there so you don’t have to help them here” approach.
>Paying brown people so you don't have to see them.
Literally ripping families apart because of their skin color, but we're the nutters. You're just the same as your slaving ancestors tbh. A white family would never, not even once be treated this way, you'll totally agree with that, and then claim to not be racist and be totally colorblind. Keep yourself safe. The right is a cancer on America, you infest and destroy everything you touch. You're garbage.
Jews were trying to get into America to escape that shit, but you guys passed the 1924 immigration law and doomed millions of them to death. That blood is on your hands, not ours. You're evil.
What's your opinion on stupid red herrings? We are not discussing Israel, I couldn't give less of a fuck about that. We are discussing my nation. And if you're not American and you're saying this stuff because you're a white supremacist european, seriously go fuck yourself so hard. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRIES POLITICS YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT NAZI.
These are fucking illegals with no papers. Kids showing up with illegals, kids showing up with fucking traffickers. Nobody knows who they actually belong to. The parents are criminals claiming "asylum" who have to be held in jail while their fake-ass asylum claims are processed.
Your solution is to leave children in adult jails with people who may or may not be their parents, may or may not be human traffickers.
Hell to the no, and fuck gay ass liberal crocodile tears.
When Haitians started crossing to Canada from US bc they were told to go back home, Canadian Government actually sent people to US cities with largest concentration of Haitians to tell them there is no chance they will be granted status in Canada, nobody batted an eye.
Why don't you go fuck yourself stupid white supremacist? Go back and wallow in your eastern european shithole. God, eastern europeans are the grossest, worst people in the entire world, you couldn't pay hatians to live in your garbage country. Stay the fuck out of my nations politics you piece of filth.
It's essentially the new Manifest Destiny to believe that history is on some sort of determined track towards everyone having more freedom. American conservatives do it too, but usually about fiscal policies. It's bullshit though. Nothing about the passage of time guarantees anything.
Liberals have relied on history doing our work for us for too long, it has made us complacent. Next time we get power, it should be a total blitkreig. Isolate the right and don't give them a moment to speak, give them no power and don't listen to them at all. Suppress the cancer, don't allow it to fester and spread like we did after 2008, that lead to the Tea Party and Alt-Right eventually seizing control of America in the coupe of 2016 and destroying everything that was once beautiful and just about it.
Fuck Americans. After this shit what else can be said? I grew up in this country, I witnessed this shit take shape. I'm out of empathy. I actively desire bad things for this degenerate nation and its shit people.
We all let this happen. Even those liberal hypocrites acting like detention centers didn't exist under Obama. We elected this mess. I fucking hope these yuppie assholes get what they want just so I can see the rednecks screetch in agony when they realize the hell that is their lives is their fault entirely. I grew up around these cretins. Fuck it, I know there's nothing there. Just contempt and loathing.
I am incapable of feeling anything but shame and hatred these days.
Can someone give me a quick rundown of what's happening? I feel out of the loop but I know if I google it, I'll get some obvious slanted "news"piece from some editorial that looks like an actual news site designed to shit all over whichever side it's writing against.
Border jumpers have been trained in new tactics, such as pretending to be "seeking asylum" and sending more children with traffickers.
Border patrol has to spend more time processing the supposed "asylum seekers" and dealing with the increased number of children.
This has given the left something to REEEEE about because the mean old border patrol is detaining a lot of the children while they process the "asylum" claims.
Poor innocent Asylum seekers are being kidnapped from their homes and forced to cross the border illegally with their children and the evil orange menace isn't letting their kids stay with them in the nazi concentration camp because a fascist court order states that jail isn't the best place for children. Like we're all part of the human race man and borders are just a social construct anyway.
When someone is caught crossing the border illegally they are now being charged with the crime of crossing the border illegally every time that they are caught. Previously they were only being charged if they have been previously deported or caught breaking another law in addition to crossing the border illegally. There is a court order from June 2016 that the children can not be detained with the adults. So the choice is either let everyone accompanied by by someone claiming to be under the age of 18 go or hold the children separately while providing them with a food, entertainment and and an education until their parents are either granted asylum or deported. In addition if someone is claiming that they are asylum sneakers at an official border check point and they are a single man with a child or if the child looks to be in poor health or show signs of abuse the child is put in the care of the government. Some people are upset because they think anyone that shows up at the border is probably a good person and should be let into the country. Other people are upset because they don't like seeing children cry when their parents are being arrested for breaking the law.
I listened to the audio. The other day a little girl was wailing way worse than anyone in that audio because her mom wouldn't buy her a cheap plastic toy at the grocery store. Kids wail that way when the color on their TV set changes from blue to green. If a kid cries everyone within 5 miles is literally hitler.
Giving kids food a bed and an education while the parents are in jail for breaking the law by entering the country illegally is literally the same thing the Nazi's did. Haven't any of you read your history books!!! Hitler literally did the exact same thing when millions of Jews crossed the French border into Germany at the beginning off WW2!
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-19
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1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-06-19
You gotta sort this by controversial at least.
I find this comment funny, just a bolded 'Fuck Trump'.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-19
Lol you cant make this shit up
1 Baconlightning 2018-06-19
American politics in a nutshell
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
FUCK YOU
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-19
You forgot to bold it
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-19
Truly comedic and political insight worthy of the highest levels of praise
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
FUCK YOU
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
FUCK YOU
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-06-19
And fuck anyone who still supports him.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-19
/u/onideus01 the fact you got mass voted and gold for your post comparing nuremburg trials to a this shit is not only a grotesque hand-wave to Jews but also the biggest symbol of why the left needs a massive identity change and has lost complete touch with the world.
You are, unironically, a terrible person.
1 onideus01 2018-06-19
I typically ignore most responses, but your well structured reply felt as if it warranted the same in return.
You missed the entire point of my having quoted that if your take-away was that I was trying to gesture to the trials themselves. I just wanted to provide context to the quote. The reality is that when you begin to have individuals forcing suffering (emotional or otherwise) on others without remorse or empathy, it is, at least on its surface, evil.
Sure, the individuals in the trials performed some extraordinarily horrifying acts, and I'm in no way trying to minimize the suffering of the Jewish people; instead, I wanted to have others consider that most in the trials didn't start with the final acts in mind. Gradual progression lead many to do things I'd argue they would not have done were it presented to them at the start.
Finally, while I do find myself identifying more with progressive leaning policies, there are still several conservative policies that I think bring benefits to the entire country. We need to hear voices from all sides, not just an "us versus them" dichotomy. This policy, however, needs to stop now.
As an additional note, I apologize if the use of the quote was misinterpreted from what I was trying to convey and upset yourself or others. I've been watching way too many WWII documentaries lately and I've been surprised with some of the parallels that exist with today (circa 1930-33 specifically).
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-19
Were Jews trying to get into Nazi Germany
1 onideus01 2018-06-19
No, they already lived there, under the Weimar Republic. They were either imprisoned or forcefully ejected from the country once the Nazi Party came to power.
However, in your parallel, that makes the United States Nazi Germany, which I never claimed to be the case. The separation of families is evil, regardless of whether you believe they should be allowed into the country.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-19
So what's the proposed solution? I have not spent too much time looking, but in about 5 minutes of skimming through that thread I saw not a single constructive comment.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
Cooperation between countries in disrupting human trafficking that is the single cause of this phenomena and in these numbers. Mexicans specifically, to get off their lazy bums and do something useful.
Immediate strategic assistance to places and regions these people come from as I understand it’s just two countries.
All the funds collected to flame American political divisions – starting from Congress, Senate and local political money - to be directed toward establishing Government and non-Government umbrella organization to solve the problem via “nip in the bud” approach. The “help them there so you don’t have to help them here” approach.
Collect all the lazy Amerifats on this side of the wall who waste time being outraged in front of social media and put them to work that will act as missionaries to improve family responsibility, civic duties and overall citizen democratic participation in the countries of origin. Two benefits – get rid of annoying overly empathic douchebags AND show potential immigrants what their kids might turn into. I kid, but for real… if you want to help, you help where it’s needed.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-19
Yeah well that's all very interesting but doesn't sound like a solution to the immediate problem of NOT SEPARATING FAMILIES LIKE NAZIS REEEEEEE.
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
>Paying brown people so you don't have to see them.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
It's better than torturing them, destroying their homes and countries and whatnot ...
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
Yeah, like taking a beating is better than being killed.
1 menvaren 2018-06-19
Well I can orgasm from a beating.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Just send them back, so they can benefit the economies of their home countries, you dummy.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
That is a really complicated way of sending them all back to Guatemala.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
No separating them?
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-19
Idk, putting innocent children in adult jail for the crimes their parents committed sounds somewhat ethically questionable.
1 SovietWarfare 2018-06-19
Just in case anyone believes the left isn't made up of nutters, I present you this gentleman here.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Literally ripping families apart because of their skin color, but we're the nutters. You're just the same as your slaving ancestors tbh. A white family would never, not even once be treated this way, you'll totally agree with that, and then claim to not be racist and be totally colorblind. Keep yourself safe. The right is a cancer on America, you infest and destroy everything you touch. You're garbage.
1 SovietWarfare 2018-06-19
Too easy to see through. You call yourself a troll? You're just a kid with a keyboard compared to me!
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-19
*incest
1 HateSpeechIsFun 2018-06-19
So that's why black fathers are a myth
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Haha, when did liberals start pretending to like families
1 gumble212 2018-06-19
Lol at linking the wiki page as if people wouldn't know what it is
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Jews were trying to get into America to escape that shit, but you guys passed the 1924 immigration law and doomed millions of them to death. That blood is on your hands, not ours. You're evil.
1 ChaddingTater 2018-06-19
don't you mean trillions?
1 gumble212 2018-06-19
one might even say gorillions
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-19
What's your opinion on Israel's border policy?
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
Less murderous policy would be a good start.
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-19
And what would be a good end?
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
Stop stealing land.
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-19
I agree Jews should exercise their God-given sovereignty and expel the violent squatters
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
Ironie ist verboten hier.
1 saddertadder 2018-06-19
DEUSTCHLAND UBER ALLES
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
... über alles in der Welt.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
That would result in more Muslims tho
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Can't be worse than the barbarous animals in the hinterlands.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Those ARE the barbarous animals in the hinterlands.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
What's your opinion on stupid red herrings? We are not discussing Israel, I couldn't give less of a fuck about that. We are discussing my nation. And if you're not American and you're saying this stuff because you're a white supremacist european, seriously go fuck yourself so hard. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRIES POLITICS YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT NAZI.
1 UsifMugabe 2018-06-19
lol you think north Africans are racially inferior and you're calling someone a Nazi.
1 saddertadder 2018-06-19
> watching documentaries about ww2 to assert ur ww2 knowledge
Wew. Try reading some books, nerd.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-19
Mmmm... not sure how to reply to a post like this on drama. Was going to do black elf emoji, but I'm stumped.
1 DammitEd 2018-06-19
It's such a milquetoast reply. He somehow managed to be offended and completely bland in his offense.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Illegal immigration is a bad policy and Democrats need to stop supporting it now
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
no
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
These are fucking illegals with no papers. Kids showing up with illegals, kids showing up with fucking traffickers. Nobody knows who they actually belong to. The parents are criminals claiming "asylum" who have to be held in jail while their fake-ass asylum claims are processed.
Your solution is to leave children in adult jails with people who may or may not be their parents, may or may not be human traffickers.
Hell to the no, and fuck gay ass liberal crocodile tears.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-06-19
Wtf I love needles now.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
LOL yeah you're the one unironically ripping families apart, but someone else is worse for using mean words.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-06-19
When Haitians started crossing to Canada from US bc they were told to go back home, Canadian Government actually sent people to US cities with largest concentration of Haitians to tell them there is no chance they will be granted status in Canada, nobody batted an eye.
It was a normal day in Government doing its job.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2018-06-19
Did they send children? If no, then it’s different. This is the first step to Drumpf’s final solution to the immigration problem.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-19
We unironically need a final solution.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Yes, we need a final solution to the right. The ideal, and, in fact, only acceptable, level of Trump supporters in a nation is 0.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-19
Do you know how fucking boring the world would be if we only had the anal control freak left? My god...
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-19
It wouldn’t be boring, look at Venezuela
1 I-need-MAYO 2018-06-19
1 Tobans 2018-06-19
REDUNDANT
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
God willing.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Why don't you go fuck yourself stupid white supremacist? Go back and wallow in your eastern european shithole. God, eastern europeans are the grossest, worst people in the entire world, you couldn't pay hatians to live in your garbage country. Stay the fuck out of my nations politics you piece of filth.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-19
Wtf. Eastern Europe is way better then any place that doesn't contain a majority of whites or honorary whites ie asians
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-19
YOU COULDN’T PAY THEM TO MOVE THERE, YOU IDIOTS
1 The_DHC 2018-06-19
Someone explain why this meme is used almost exclusively by amerifat liberals 🤔
1 HungerArtistatlunch 2018-06-19
It's essentially the new Manifest Destiny to believe that history is on some sort of determined track towards everyone having more freedom. American conservatives do it too, but usually about fiscal policies. It's bullshit though. Nothing about the passage of time guarantees anything.
1 GBPcoin 2018-06-19
Entropy
1 HungerArtistatlunch 2018-06-19
Just wait for that Big Crunch.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
There will be no crunch. The universe is ever expanding. Heat Death is the most probable scenario here with a time line like this.
God i hope so. SHUT IT ONCE AND FOR ALL!
1 Detective_Fallacy 2018-06-19
It seems like we skipped a few years on that timeline.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
Liberals have relied on history doing our work for us for too long, it has made us complacent. Next time we get power, it should be a total blitkreig. Isolate the right and don't give them a moment to speak, give them no power and don't listen to them at all. Suppress the cancer, don't allow it to fester and spread like we did after 2008, that lead to the Tea Party and Alt-Right eventually seizing control of America in the coupe of 2016 and destroying everything that was once beautiful and just about it.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-06-19
> Says fascists are in power
> Unironically claims everyone on the right needs to be cleansed
1 Mexagon 2018-06-19
Sure thing, hitler.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-06-19
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/8s4i8d/propublica_has_obtained_audio_from_inside_a_us/e0x05ny?context=1
Beautiful :')
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-19
Imagine caring about fucking Mexicans this much on the internet
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
If we don't open the borders we're going to be stuck fucking mayos, so I'd say it's pretty important.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
There's like 50 million black people in this country, white bread. Go get some.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
I do. Often.
Plus, open borders lowers the average height and therefore makes me even taller relatively. 5'11 is the new 6'2!
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
But raises the average width.
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-19
oh no they're making fun of trump :/
1 Fading_Joy 2018-06-19
CALL THE DADDY DEFENCE FORCE!!!
WEOO-WEOO-WEOO-WEOO-WEOO
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-06-19
More 'it's le Russia making the democrats look retarded'
1 jimmahdean 2018-06-19
Can someone give me a quick rundown of what's happening? I feel out of the loop but I know if I google it, I'll get some obvious slanted "news"piece from some editorial that looks like an actual news site designed to shit all over whichever side it's writing against.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Border jumpers have been trained in new tactics, such as pretending to be "seeking asylum" and sending more children with traffickers.
Border patrol has to spend more time processing the supposed "asylum seekers" and dealing with the increased number of children.
This has given the left something to REEEEE about because the mean old border patrol is detaining a lot of the children while they process the "asylum" claims.
1 jimmahdean 2018-06-19
Alright so can someone else rephrase this comment without the right wing bias, please?
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
No.
1 cheers_grills 2018-06-19
Propably because they can't be in there illegally anymore.
1 clamdigger90 2018-06-19
The crafty and noble brown people have outwitted the cruel white masters once again and all the Mayo's are screaming at each other over it.
1 OdinSQL 2018-06-19
Poor innocent Asylum seekers are being kidnapped from their homes and forced to cross the border illegally with their children and the evil orange menace isn't letting their kids stay with them in the nazi concentration camp because a fascist court order states that jail isn't the best place for children. Like we're all part of the human race man and borders are just a social construct anyway.
1 jimmahdean 2018-06-19
How about without the left bias? :D
1 OdinSQL 2018-06-19
When someone is caught crossing the border illegally they are now being charged with the crime of crossing the border illegally every time that they are caught. Previously they were only being charged if they have been previously deported or caught breaking another law in addition to crossing the border illegally. There is a court order from June 2016 that the children can not be detained with the adults. So the choice is either let everyone accompanied by by someone claiming to be under the age of 18 go or hold the children separately while providing them with a food, entertainment and and an education until their parents are either granted asylum or deported. In addition if someone is claiming that they are asylum sneakers at an official border check point and they are a single man with a child or if the child looks to be in poor health or show signs of abuse the child is put in the care of the government. Some people are upset because they think anyone that shows up at the border is probably a good person and should be let into the country. Other people are upset because they don't like seeing children cry when their parents are being arrested for breaking the law.
1 jimmahdean 2018-06-19
Thanks. I figured if I knew the actual facts I wouldn't understand the complaining.
I don't understand the complaining.
1 Pepperglue 2018-06-19
That is a lot of effort put into this post. Thanks.
Now I also don't understand what is there to complain.
1 do0rkn0b 2018-06-19
need more cages.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
https://i.redd.it/rdokg1nm9y411.jpg
1 neutralvoter 2018-06-19
I listened to the audio. The other day a little girl was wailing way worse than anyone in that audio because her mom wouldn't buy her a cheap plastic toy at the grocery store. Kids wail that way when the color on their TV set changes from blue to green. If a kid cries everyone within 5 miles is literally hitler.
1 Gryzblyxx 2018-06-19
To our dear MDEfugees: STOP DOWNVOTING LOLCOWS, YOU IDIOTS
1 OdinSQL 2018-06-19
Giving kids food a bed and an education while the parents are in jail for breaking the law by entering the country illegally is literally the same thing the Nazi's did. Haven't any of you read your history books!!! Hitler literally did the exact same thing when millions of Jews crossed the French border into Germany at the beginning off WW2!