The Red Menace rears its ugly head when one of their own is booted out of the US Army for being commie scum.

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militaryfag being a dumbass

color me surprised

Its funny in part because it's ridiculously hard to get into West Point. That the dumbass didn't wait five seconds so his degree was valid/

Its funny in part because it's ridiculously hard to get into West Point.

It's really not hard if you're already enlisted. Autism helps too.

Is it even legal to discharge someone from the military for something this aids?

I know, for example, the US military has a serious white nationalist problem and they don't seem to be kicked out too often.

Wtf are you on, Imagine taking what some shitlib politician says seriously. The military does have a gang problem though

Those polls don't say what you think it does. 25% of people have seen white nationalism in the ranks, what does that mean what are they calling examples of white nationalism. I served six years as an officer the only thing I saw was some gang related shit.

That poll says exactly what I think it does. Stop trying to defend it man, this has been a thing for a while.

White nationalists also infiltrated law enforcement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_skin

In an FBI Intelligence Assessment from 2006, the FBI Counterterrorism Division provides an overview of white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement and mentions that use of the term has come to the agency's attention in 2004.[3][4][5][6] In 2001, two law enforcement officers in Williamson County, Texas, were been fired after it was discovered they were members of the Ku Klux Klan.[7][8]

No it doesn't they literally asked if people have seen white nationalism, what does that mean how can that even be quantified not to mention this was done at peak alt right.I'm going to give you some info, military leadership skews white and there are a bunch of knuckleheads in the military of all races and they do incredibly stupid shit. How many of these are i did something dumb and a white lt colonel gave me an article 15 obviously he's racist

What does law enforcement have to do with any of this

White nationalists infiltrate law enforcement/the military for the same reason gangs do.

Actually trying to argue with Pizzashill 🤔

I know but for a guy who claims to be all evidence based his evidence wasn't really evidence, more like something coming out of a gender studies program

/u/pizzashill is mentally disabled, he cant help himself

If you want my attention you're going to have to actually point out what I said that's factually incorrect.

If you want my attention you're going to have to actually point out what I said that's factually incorrect.

no thanks, you're insecure enough that you'll actually reply to any comment that shit-talks you

Then you're dismissed.

You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.

No, I don't know stuff about a lot of subjects. So you know what? I avoid those subjects. I don't pretend to understand every subject, I don't get in arguments in relation to subjects I know nothing about.

Which seems to be a favorite pass time of retards on /r/drama.

You’re falling for exactly the same hysteria that seized suburban moms a while back.

X% of students are or know of a gang member!

Sure that could mean there’s one dude who wears red shirts, but no, clearly it means X% of students are gang members!

You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.

You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.

Hey you aren't snappy!

That’s a pizza quote

Oh I need to brush up on my PizzaShill lore.

I don't believe an /r/drama user would actually go outside and do something.

If 25% have seen white nationalism in the ranks, that means that the vast majority of soldiers haven't seen this happening.

Pretty sure the issue here isn't his opinion (although they didn't help) but the fact that he decided to express them in uniform in a very public way.

If a white nationalist pulled the same shit (wrote a slogan about white power or something) and displayed it in his hat, he would be out on his ass too.

Exactly a west point grad at graduation expressing his love of communism. Interesting note but I was rotc and at th bolc's we got a couple of West point grads Jesus did they like to party and drink, I don't they ever went to class sober or at least hung over

Dude posted shit on social media under his own name, also did that picture while in uniform... The communism thing is frowned upon to begin with, but he probably would have been discharged all the same for any other kind of opinion he expressed in that way.

It was also when he swore at NCOs after they failed him at Ranger school.

And then he went on to swear at the command staff of the Ranger school.

Pretty sure the issue here isn't his opinion (although they didn't help) but the fact that he decided to express them in uniform in a very public way.

This whole debate happened last year when some military person went to a pride parade in their uniform.

It's just against rules to do that kinda stuff in uniform.

Liberals are mad at the rule until a person in a uniform goes to a pro-life rally and then they throw the book at them.

If a football players held signs during the national anthem that said "life starts at conception", I'll give you 2 seconds to think how the support of football players making political messages during the anthem would not exist.

So writing shit about superior officers online doesn't work either.

Pretty sure that's strongly discouraged. In several European countries people have been fired from normal jobs for dissing their company or colleagues on social media (employment contracts usually include a line like "don't do shit that would have a negative impact on the company").

You mean like saying you’re an Iraq veteran and putting a Nazi slogan next to it on your username?

Iraqi

Nope, if you’re active duty military you can’t advocate for pretty much anything political. I’d say especially so for fringe ideologies that run counter to our way of life. That said I’m sure you are fine being commie scum or white nationalist scum, in the military, as long as you aren’t going viral advocating for it.

Sage

For having an ideology at odds with that of the military? yes, yes they can.

🅱izza this is retarded, even for you. Go outside.

How is asking a question retarded?

I'm sorry, I should've quoted. Asking your first question wasn't retarded.

I know, for example, the US military has a serious white nationalist problem and they don't seem to be kicked out too often.

^ That was.

They really don't, and /u/boyoyoyoyong already explained what these mean to you.

If you would like some perspective, I've been in the military for ten years. I've been stationed in four different states at one point or another and spent five years in Europe. I've spent about 18 months of those ten years deployed, and worked extensively with all branches of the military and some three letter agencies. I have known precisely two young men who espoused legitimate white nationalist views, in person or on social media. One of them is a fucking hick retard from my home town who got kicked out of drug use, and another is a fat fucker who got kicked out because he couldn't run. I assure you the military doesn't have a white nationalist problem. There are some, yes. Just like in every other walk of life. But they are so rare as to be negligible any of them who don't keep it 100% under wraps, people get wise to their bullshit real fucking fast. And I can assure you they're ostracized appropriately.

This is actually wild. You people will just dismiss objective reality and actual data we have because it hurts your feelings.

They do have a problem, any example of white nationalism in the military is a problem.

This isn't up for debate. You don't get to dismissing data on the subject just because admitting a problem exists makes you uncomfortable.

You people will just dismiss objective reality and actual data we have because it hurts your feelings.

It doesn't hurt my feelings, you're just wrong.

They do have a problem, any example of white nationalism in the military is a problem.

I mean, if you want to use that retarded logic then essentially everywhere has a white nationalist problem. It only takes one, right? Stop acting foolish.

This isn't up for debate.

Yes it is. My real world experience for the past ten years > Your retarded vision of how things work.

You don't get to dismiss data on the subject just because admitting a problem exists makes you uncomfortable.

I didn't dismiss data. /u/boyoyoyoyong explained to you why what you've read doesn't represent the military.

Dude, you are ignoring reality here. Even the military admits it has a fucking problem.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2006/several-high-profile-racist-extremists-serve-us-military

Neo-Nazis "stretch across all branches of service, they are linking up across the branches once they're inside, and they are hard-core," Department of Defense gang detective Scott Barfield told the Intelligence Report. "We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," he added. "That's a problem."The armed forces are supposed to be a model of racial equality. American soldiers are supposed to be defenders of democracy. Neo-Nazis represent the opposite of these ideals. They dream of race war and revolution, and their motivations for enlisting are often quite different than serving their country."Join only for the training, and to better defend yourself, our people, and our culture," Fain said. "We must have people to open doors from the inside when the time comes."

I did try.

Inhales deeply: You're now one of 3 people I've blocked on Reddit. I don't even mind people sperging out at me, but what I do mind is just the complete lack of real arguments.

You're just boring.

You just got fucking destroyed dude. Why do you refuse to admit this is a problem, even when the department of defense admits it?

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You just got fucking destroyed dude.

Imagine being this arrogant.

I was right.

He was wrong.

He tried to insult me for being right.

He's arrogant.

Imagine being this arrogant.

Dude the study you posted is meaningless it doesn't even define what white nationalism is. I've served and so has u/you_got_it_jobin while neither of us know everyone in the military and what they think but we have a much better idea then u do and that study is so shitty it isn't even worth mentioning

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2006/several-high-profile-racist-extremists-serve-us-military

Neo-Nazis "stretch across all branches of service, they are linking up across the branches once they're inside, and they are hard-core," Department of Defense gang detective Scott Barfield told the Intelligence Report. "We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," he added. "That's a problem."The armed forces are supposed to be a model of racial equality. American soldiers are supposed to be defenders of democracy. Neo-Nazis represent the opposite of these ideals. They dream of race war and revolution, and their motivations for enlisting are often quite different than serving their country."Join only for the training, and to better defend yourself, our people, and our culture," Fain said. "We must have people to open doors from the inside when the time comes."

In 1996, following a decade-long rash of cases where extremists in the military were caught diverting huge arsenals of stolen firearms and explosives to neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations, conducting guerilla training for paramilitary racist militias, and murdering non-white civilians (see timeline), the Pentagon finally launched a massive investigation and crackdown. One general ordered all 19,000 soldiers at Fort Lewis, Wash., strip-searched for extremist tattoos.But that was peacetime. Now, with the country at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the military under increasingly intense pressure to maintain enlistment numbers, weeding out extremists is less of a priority. "Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members," said Department of Defense investigator Barfield.

Splc dude keep yourself safe

Department of Defense gang detective Scott Barfield told the Intelligence Report.

What does this say?

Dude splc they put ayaan hirsi ali on there hate watch and then organization is full of Jews

Department of Defense gang detective Scott Barfield told the Intelligence Report.

What does this say?

I destroyed your army times study already dude, I honestly take no credence in the splc

You can keep trying to pretend a department of defense intelligence report is "SPLC" or you can just admit you were wrong.

The choice is yours.

And to hammer the final nail in, can you please point out a single thing in that SPLC article I linked that is factually incorrect?

It's splc dude and I was at camp victory in Bagdad and didn't see that shit, I was also an infantry officer so I should have seen all these white nationalist signs. Face it your study was shit and you turned to some far left group to restore face. Please feel free to post to any of the military subs on whether they saw white nationalist graffite while deployed

Alright, I can see you don't have the required mental capacity to even admit you were wrong here.

I'll base my opinions on what department of defense gang investigators say, not what you believe.

You linked an splc report after I destroyed your original argument. Why am I going to waste my time with another one of your retarded links especially from the splc.

You didn't destroy any argument. You tried to claim "white nationalist" could possibly mean anything other than racist.

Now you keep trying to claim department of defense gang detectives, people that go after these people for a living, are somehow SPLC.

I'll give you one more chance before I dismiss you.

Point out a single thing in that SPLC article that was factually incorrect.

I did as you dropped that ridiculous study. Did you even read that report it's basically all conjecture, there is literally no data to be had. I want to know how many white supremacists there are in the military in comparison to any other gang. All you've told me is that the military has white supremacists via an idiotic study with zero controls and some fbi agent who has zero data other then this guy was a white supremacist.

You will not get a single reply from me until you point out what from that SPLC article is factually incorrect.

There's nothing in the article to criticize its one guys interpretation, besides that it really says nothing about a white supremacist problem in the military

You will not get another reply from me until you point out what in that article is factually incorrect.

I'm going to hold you to this. I'm done with this right-wing tardism where you guys think you can hand-wave everything that says you're wrong.

You will not get another reply from me until you point out what in that article is factually incorrect.

You replied to him once before with that, yet you replied again.

Department of Defense gang detective Scott Barfield told the Intelligence Report.

It says that SPLC is basing all this on the say-so of one guy.

Scott Barfield resigned Aug. 15 from his position at Fort Lewis, near Tacoma, Wash., after being reprimanded for violating regulations on interactions with the media.

What does this say?

It says that SPLC is basing all this on the say-so of one guy.

No, it doesn't. The article cites a defense department study and former skinheads that used the military recruit as well.

What does this say?

That the military didn't like him telling the truth?

The article cites a defense department study and former skinheads that used the military recruit as well.

From 1998.

Every year, the Army's Criminal Investigation Division conducts a threat assessment of extremist and gang activity among army personnel. "Every year, they come back with 'minimal activity,' which is inaccurate," said Barfield.

In other words, this is based on one guy's say-so.

Scott Barfield resigned Aug. 15 from his position at Fort Lewis, near Tacoma, Wash., after being reprimanded for violating regulations on interactions with the media.

Try reading it again. What does this say?

From 1998.

Do you think white nationalists went anywhere?

In other words, this is based on one guy's say-so.

No, based on his reports, and the reports of nazi skinheads that used the military to recruit.

Try reading it again. What does this say?

That the military didn't like the truth? I don't get it, what about this somehow reduces his credibility?

Do you think white nationalists went anywhere?

Do you think the DoD commissions reports and then does nothing?

No, based on his reports, and the reports of nazi skinheads that used the military to recruit.

The only nazi skinhead that corroborated the recruiting was T.J. Leyden. The Army's Criminal Investigation Division came to the conclusion that the skinhead threat was minimal.

Scott Barfield resigned Aug. 15 from his position at Fort Lewis, near Tacoma, Wash., after being reprimanded for violating regulations on interactions with the media.

Try reading it again. What does this say?

Do you think the DoD commissions reports and then does nothing?

I think they downplay the internal threat, they act on it, of course, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

The only nazi skinhead that corroborated the recruiting was T.J. Leyden. I suppose one skinhead is now plural? The Army's Criminal Investigation Division came to the conclusion that the skinhead threat was minimal.

He's one of many.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2008/evidence-shows-racist-skinheads-enlisting-military

Another report.

Try reading it again. What does this say?

That the military didn't like the truth? I don't get it, what about this somehow reduces his credibility?

Either you're illiterate, or you unironically believe violating regulations for speaking with the media somehow reduces his credibility.

I think they downplay the internal threat, they act on it, of course, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

First of all, this sentence makes no sense. Secondly, it seems you believe SPLC "reports" whole cloth but when the military issues a report they must downplaying it. Contrary to your SPLC reports, the military is discharging white supremacists.

He's one of many.

Your link only has Adrian Petty as admitting to recruiting.

Scott Barfield resigned Aug. 15 from his position at Fort Lewis, near Tacoma, Wash., after being reprimanded for violating regulations on interactions with the media.

Try reading it again. What does this say?

I'm not doing this anymore. You keep asking me what something says, and because you know your argument makes no sense, you just won't stop pasting it.

Trying to claim there isn't a white nationalist problem in the US military is liking trying to argue the sky isn't blue.

I'll base my opinions on the data, the facts. You can continue basing them on your delusions.

No, you base your opinions on SPLC hysteria. You have provided very little in the way of data and you ignore reports that contradict what you claim. I'm not denying that there are white supremacists in the military. Their presence is minimal, and this does not constitute a "white nationalist problem."

linking SPLC as “proof”

I'll give you 1 reply to point out what in the linked SPLC article is factually incorrect before you're dismissed.

Some libshit politician Keith ellison wants answers on white supremacists in the military of course the resident shitlib in drama is going to parrot him while ignoring all the bloods and crips and ms13 in the military

You would think people would have trouble serving with gang members.

Keith Nation of Islam Ellison?

Do they post about it on twitter?

Some marine who joined the Charlottesville protest just got court-martial'd today, hope that answers your question.

This has little to do with communism and everything to do with military code. I'm pretty sure holding up an "I pledge allegiance to God Emperor Trump" sign in uniform would break the same rule. The primary difference is that outing yourself as a filthy gommie in uniform is far more likely to motivate NEET Corps, 4th autism division to get it hand delivered to one of your superiors.

I wouldn't be surprised if this idiot didn't have a series of offenses aside from running a perfectly good cap. Discharges are always juicier than they look.

I wouldn't be surprised if this idiot didn't have a series of offenses aside from running a perfectly good cap.

He literally said that the reason he joined the military was to sabotage it from the inside.

so much for free speech huh

>in uniform >free speech

Pick one

so much for free speech huh

Further proof Internet NEETs are better at Intelligence work than the United States government

When I was interviewed at the police station detective Hong had the nerve to say to me, “the internet did the work for us.” 

http://archive.is/xCqdc

Bike locks 4 peace

I'm sure publicly talking shit about the people paying you doesn't help either

The now-former cadet said the probe found him advocating for socialist revolution online and disparaging high-ranking officers and U.S. officials.

He posted support for an ideology the US fought for 40+ years under his real name and he tried to become the alpha male that ChapoTrapHouse thinks they see in the mirror until [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bf39c592e90d2deac2491da449dcac06193e7a9a/22_0_1157_694/master/1157.jpg] (reality) hits em like so many un-unique Communists bricks

This is what ChapoTrapHouse fans think they look like, when this is reality.

Well look - it's 2 and a half neckbeards.

You're being very charitable to their fans

I'm cuter than commie cadet tbh.

We'll see how smart you are in the Alternative Lifestyle Unit when you washing my draws.

As if you have them washed

I can tell you're uglier than Joan just by the way you type btw.

I don't know what Joan looks like, so maybe?

Good, get this botch out of the Army....he can go back to pizza hut.

What's the difference lol

One kills bad guys, and one makes pizza.

But which is which! Lol.

asl

>islamic terrorists

>bad guys

ummm try again sweaty :)

Im not sweaty. I haven't even been working out.

One kills bad guys, and one makes pizza.

One kills bad guys brown people, and one makes pizza.

Someone has to take out the savages.

Afghans aren't really any browner than Italians. Really we're the brown people because all of the black and hispanic soldiers.

The commies in that thread, jfc

IIRC you literally swear an oath that you arent a communist or communist sympathizer to be an officer in the US army.

No, maybe back in the 50s or 60s but not today. You are prohibited from being a part of radical groups but not explicitly communist. This has more to do with him publicly endorsing political views while in uniform. Which is a criminal offense under the UCMJ.

Better dead than Red. So, they essentially spared his life.

Physically removed

They should have removed him from base using a helicopter.

What's funny (and unsurprising) that most are unemployed and young.

They want everything handed to them. Can’t get off their lazy asses and go work.

What a disgusting way to talk about the /r/Drama/ mods.

communists aren't people