I was more thinking of professional mercnaries or battle hardened vets from various under the radar conflicts world wide. These 'Cels will wake up to the world real quick. Problem solved...
to be fair you have admitted to hating women. I don't think that you are an incel but you are a misogynist. You need to fix that if you want to grow as a person.
Are you gay, straight or asexual? Reply to this question. There's no other option.
Either you're gay and the wanting nothing to do with women is fine. Or you're asexual and then you might as well just kill yourself. Or you're straight and then wanting nothing to do with women means you're afraid cause you can't deal with them and you have some kind of issues.
The fact you've generalized KHHHVs as "its just because ure insecure about womyn" shows you dont understand the KHHHV mindset. Which shouldn't be hard to understand; browsing non-inceloid virgin forum would give you a general idea, but you clearly havent done that
You people need to learn that your armchair analysis of random people on reddit is laughably wrong 99.99% of the time and to stop doing it because it’s cringeworthy as fuck.
Whammen are people too, bro. Ladybrain isn't that different from dudebrain.
If you're concerned that you might want to fuck them and do something stupid because of it, why not start by just interacting with grannies? (insert some very obvious jokes about certain paraphilias) Do you not have female relatives you could talk to? Why not volunteer at a home for the elderly or something?
Not that you have to force yourself to be around anyone just because of their gender. But assuming that you will actually one day meet and interact with people, I fear that you'll have built up your hang-ups with whammen so much that you'll be incapable of talking to them, and feeling nervous around 50% of the population just seems like a drag.
None of this applies if you happen to live in Saudi-Arabia, where you can probably go without seeing a woman in your life.
I just think it's a pretty interesting conversational topic that happens to catch my attention right now.
As far as personal choices go, disavowing an entire gender is just... a bit quirky. It's a bit like exclusively wanting to date 2D women, or exclusively walking on the tip of your toes or something.
Sure, it affects only you and no-one else, but you can't stop people from being fascinated by such a decision, especially when there doesn't seem to be a specific reason for the behavior.
I don't think you're a bad person. I won't discount your opinions just because you do one thing that weirds me out a little. You've written a lot of insightful posts (for /r/Drama at least) that demonstrate a capacity for nuanced thought (this sounds condescending as shit. But on a site populated by Chapotards and MDEgenerates, I think this is important to point out).
But the women thing is just one thing that seems glaringly incongruent with the rest of your online persona. Not wanting anything to do with women is not very Radical Centrist, dude. That's all.
Sure, it affects only you and no-one else, but you can't stop people from being fascinated by such a decision, especially when there doesn't seem to be a specific reason for the behavior.
There are specific reasons.
I don't like certain traits that are primarily found within women.
But the women thing is just one thing that seems glaringly incongruent with the rest of your online persona. Not wanting anything to do with women is not very Radical Centrist, dude. That's all.
Not wanting to be around women isn't right or left. It doesn't belong to either side of the spectrum.
Women are way more agreeable than men are so you never know if they actually agree with you or it's just them being women.
Women have higher levels of neuroticism than men.
Women will rarely shit talk you to your face. They'll just be nice to you up front and then shit talk you behind your back. At least men will be up front with you most of the time because we're used to shit talking each other.
Women tend to display seriously levels of "victim complex."
Women are raised to believe they're entitled to male attention.
Women are manipulative.
Young women are always looking for an angle, something they can get out of you. It's why so many of them have beta friendzone orbiters. Many women see no problem with exploiting the betas like this. But it's disgusting to me.
The list goes on and on. I decided to cut women out of my life because these reasons justified it to me. It might not be rational, you might not agree with it, but it isn't your choice and it isn't hurting anyone.
This is a free country. If I want nothing to do with women, that's my choice and my right.
but not the bad ones like women are always looking for an angle. I doubt you decided women have these characteristics through science. You obviously came up with these theories and then found science papers that back your way of thinking. You are doing the same thing trumpets do when it comes to using arguing with science.
And even if women are as you say they are men also have their negative characteristics. We are more violent. You are more likely to die from another man. Men are literally more dangerous than women. Does this mean you are going to cut yourself men?
young women with high emotional intelligence. Bro,You are picking research that agrees with your misogyny. Am sure men with high emotional intelligence will also very manipulative.
Also it makes sense that women would be very good at emotionally manipulating people. They have physically weaker bodies, this is an easier defense.
seriously? You have stereotyped women and claim to want nothing to do with them. I don't want anything to do with shit but thats because shit stinks. I hate it. If you don't want something around you its cause you dislike it.
Misogyny is dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
If some womyn posted a comment like this then I'd conclude, quite firmly, they were a "rabid femtard".
I think you might be acting a little hypocritical on this particular issue here dawg, but we probably won't come to an agreement.
It seems you've been hurt by women and it's okay to want to protect yourself from more hurt. But since I'm a "disagreeable" man, I won't refrain from calling bullshit when pretty much all of us SJW feminazis on /r/Drama agree that you're bigoted against women and that blanket disavowing a whole gender is a huge overreaction to whatever pain these women caused you.
Feel free to disagree, maybe you are right and everyone else is wrong brah.
Women are way more agreeable than men are so you never know if they actually agree with you or it's just them being women.
I'm a dude and I'm pretty damn agreeable in real life. The only reason I post on edgelord subs like /r/Drama is to vent about stuff that would get me ostracized in real life (or in any of the more "fragile" subreddits).
Women have higher levels of neuroticism than men.
I'm neurotic as fuck bro.
Not going to bother to respond to the rest of the post, but it's cool that you've thrown us a bone by explaining yourself.
> Your specific instance doesn't trump his general case. Basic logic.
Not really the point I was trying to make dude. But his logic reminds me of the ["Bowl of M&M's"](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bowl-of-m-ms) type argument that bigots (and specifically, feminist bigots trying to argue for discrimination against men) use as an argument for their bigotry. (Yeah, I linked to KnowYourMeme. Pretty sad).
Sure, certain traits are more prevalent among women than among men, but let's say it's debatable whether that justifies a blanket disavowal of an entire demographic. Especially since there's plenty of people with dicks (like myself) who share a lot of the traits that he dislikes, even if such traits are less prevalent among "my" gender.
Linking to a website called "KnowYourMeme", and not the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy or some other highfalutin' website, acutely reminds me of the fact that I'm actually spending time arguing on a website dedicated to farming virtual validation points in exchange for posting le dank maymays.
Oh, I'm not arguing one little bit about it being justifiable - only that your instance doesn't refute the assertion that some characteristics are more common to women. (Nor does that prove that the assertion is true, either.)
Men are way more disagreeable than women, so they're always engaging in pointless dick-measuring contests instead of working together to reach a compromise.
Men have low neuroticism which often makes them careless and reckless
Men feel a constant need to talk shit to each other and engage in one-upmanship because they think being emotionally vulnerable is for faggots and women. At least women have the capacity for being diplomatic if they want to.
Men are often abusive, domineering pricks.
Men are raised to chase and pester women for attention to obnoxious degrees because getting laid is the ultimate proof of being a "real man."
Men are violent and angry.
Young men are always looking to get sex out of women. It's why so many of them pretend to be interested in relationships or friendship with women while they are only interested in getting into their pants. Many men see no problem with misleading women like this. But it's disgusting to me.
Men are way more disagreeable than women, so you never know if they actually care about the solution or they're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Men have low neuroticism which often makes them careless and reckless
Men feel a constant need to talk shit to each other and tell you how it "should have been done" because they genuinely think that will help the solve problems. At least women have the capacity for being diplomatic if the situation calls for it.
Men are completely oblivious to how someone's feelings could possibly be hurt by what they said or did.
Men are raised to believe their opinions are correct, or actually matter to anyone else, and somehow everyone else goes along with it.
Men are so stubborn it's usually easiest to manipulate them instead of convince them.
Young men are always looking to get sex out of women. It's why so many of them pretend to be interested in relationships or friendship with women while they are only interested in getting in their pants. Many men see no problem with misleading women like this. But it's disgusting to me.
I actually don't know any sex-obsessed men now that I'm out of school. I don't think I've ever known any violent or abusive men.
Well, I don't really know many women who fit /u/pizzashill "s description either, especially the parts about being manipulative, only interested in friendzoning men to get something out of them, and self-victimization. But maybe that's because I've been manipulated so thoroughly that I don't even realize it.
Or it's just my social circle.
I mean, I've never heard a white guy say "dirty nigger", but my neighbor Tyrone says it's been said to him loads of times by mayo dudes. So is he lying?
I'm glad you're amused dude, I find your views on this particular issue quite amusing too. As I said, maybe I'm the stupid one and you're the enlightened one. No hatorade here, just shooting the shit, just having a good man 2 man talk, etc. etc.
It's amazing all the men raised to hate men if one doesn't worship women. Somehow you're just supposed ignores females disgusting behavior since they have ugly smelly holes between their legs.
i recall seeing a post he wrote about it. he dated some crazy bitches one after the other and thought "that's enough for me". it might be a phase he gets over, who cares anyway, pussy and relationships are overrated massively, anyone who has access to these things knows that.
Buddy, you were just saying that you like to keep personal details concealed (concerning career) and I thought that was smart. Trust me, in a couple years you're not going to want the stuff you say about women associated with your face.
I'm not saying this to insult you, just trying to encourage a little foresight. Your brand of misogyny would make you unemployable outside of shit jobs.
I love how this article goes several steps past that. Pao is blatantly fearmongering, with 0 distinction between normal virgins and "ideology of hate" incels. She considers free speech arguments and “Sunlight is the best disinfectant” to be completely misguided. Completely unironically says "that means rooting out and banning incel beliefs".
/u/allwordsaredust this would be a good anime too. A secret organization deploys escorts on missions to seduce incels and rid the city of the sexual frustration that's leading young men to radicalize and form extremist militia/terrorist groups, thus saving the city and eventually the wurld.
Nah, if it's an anime the women can't be distributed to all the incels, there's got to be an ordinary japanese highschooler at the centre of it who all the women inexplicably fall in love with. Maybe this could be the villain's plan, and our brave hero could save the poor women from the grubby hands of incels(despite being one himself).
You can combine this with /u/allwordsaredust's idea where they spare one high school boy who all the women inexplicably fall in love with and then he helps them defeat the evil incels with some hot yuri action hamfistedly inserted somewhere.
I hope we get like an extreme missandrist for the next president and I can start a chad business that literally hunts incels for sport with bows am arrows and shit. It would be like the vampire hunting movies, I'd go into a tech giant and flash my chad badge and certain "men" would start sweating. Suddenly a 5'6" menlet breaks off their computer bench and starts booking it, too bad they're not as fast as an arrow from my recurve bow, the first and last penetration their bodies would ever know.
In the misandry universe I would start a company called Incelnerator that conducts incel background checks. All I need to do is approach a techie media outlet sympathetic to the Incelnerator mission statement and with that spark of exposure all of Silicon Valley will be scrambling to integrate my services into their applicant background check regimens. My newfound clout in the tech world could then be leveraged to secure data-sharing partnerships with all mainstream dating and social media apps. Incelnerator's proprietary CelDetectTM virginity analysis combined with the datasets of our valued partners will allow an employer to determine whether a prospect harbors toxic virginity with 99.999% accuracy. The workplace of tomorrow will be the workplace of Chads.
Yeah, it's turning into a mess. The word is going to lose all meaning. Like how any vaguely progressive guy who is accused of harrasment suddenly becomes a "feminist". People are going to lose the ability to talk about actual incels because everyone will assume the word is just being thrown around willy nilly.
Cope. Women don't care about Chad's ideology if they want to fuck. So called feminists would fuck neo Nazis over an ugly goodboi incel if the neo Nazi is Chad enough.
I got called an incel for asking if the guy would have felt empathy for Hitler in a post about xxxtentacion getting killed. It’s kind of fascinating watching words evolve so quickly.
Imagine getting a JD and MBA from Harvard only to have your career end with a failed gender discrimination lawsuit and being a wicker woman for reddit. All the while you're married to a gay man because you were too busy to build a real family. Of course she's bitter. I feel sorry for her a bit. I hope she makes a political run.
She got fucked in the arse by that failed defamation suit and now she's trying to share that butthurt around. Typical female logic really, if she's suffering then everyone has to suffer.
THE WORLD HAS recently become more terrifyingly aware of incels
LOL
Guess what world, there are dudes who are virgins and lead unhappy lives without love or sex. These guys are miserable and lash out. Usually they are either so socially awkward they can't score, or they are butt ugly or both. Sometimes they have some mental conditions.
Holy shit this is like SOO new, never in the history of the world have men failed to procreate or find love and die bitter, miserable lives!
How do we deal with them? Help them? Find out why they suck so bad?
Nah, fuck that, just ostracize them more so they just kill themselves off.
reddit incel communities are garbage, but if you consider that these guys usually are highly socially isolated and lack probably any positive social or romantic interaction. Their frustration is to be understood, even if going far over board
People like Pao aren't doing anything brave, they are punching down at people who know everyone hates them already. by saying
It is, of course, nonsense. Incels are usually conspiracy theorists, not victims
[of course they are victims, victims of the circumstances which made them so bitter]
who share many values and tactics with white supremacist, men’s rights, and alt-right groups
[unfounded]
It's just not helping.
Imagine there was a growing online presence of women being frustrated with their lives and whine about it and blame all men and say horrible shit. I am sure people would much rather defend them, then some ugly nerds who can't get laid.
Unironically, it is. These communities are cooking up a brand new type of crazy. They're growing and reinforcing. They're developing an ideology and a worldview. They're going to become an entrenched faction.
Incels will be sources of high quality drama for years to come, and it's only going to get more fucked up.
Well, that is a little disingenuous though. Anyone has the power to change anything anyone else could if they cared enough to make the effort. You could become a public speaker, try to reach out to them on their online communities (probably the most likely to work), try to create spaces for them in real life communities.
Nothing you or him or I will ever do will change that, though, because we are all too lazy and we’re just drama whores. But let’s not pretend we’re any less capable of changing things than any other person
Yeah, there are definitely a couple of red flags that make me think this might hackshually become a real "terrorist movement". Precedent of an attack, echo/recruitment chambers, a sort-of homogeneized ideology and lingo, a "martyr" and Scripture in the form of Elliot Rodger and his crazy-ass Manifesto.
I hate incels for the same reason I hate white supremacists - it is one thing to see something horrifying that's totally different than you, it's much worse to see something horrifying that bears some resemblance to you. It's like the feeling of embarrasment you feel when a stupid monkey does something humanlike. I'm sure a lot of Muslims feel the same way about ISIS.
Muslims support law based on the Koran!? What a break through... that’s kind of how ISIS is able to recruit. They manipulate those nagging doubts that many Muslims have when they see the rest of the world not following their rules.
This is just blatantly untrue, you have no idea what you're talking about. The Reddit incel community is pretty racially aware and is relatively diverse
It is, of course, nonsense. Incels are usually conspiracy theorists, not victims
[of course they are victims, victims of the circumstances which made them so bitter]
Not to seriouspost but it seems like progressives have for so long tried to celebrate the noble suffering of minorities and valorize their victimhood that it's just inconceivable to them that someone could be both a victim and a deeply ugly person.
of course they are victims, victims of the circumstances which made them so bitter
"It's society's fault I'm a failure waaah"
It genuinely sucks that these people didn't have an authority figure in their lives to knock that shit out of their heads, sure, but once you're an adult its your own responsibility to get help for whatever crazy you've got going on, regardless of who was responsible for putting it three in the first place.
if you consider that these guys usually are highly socially isolated
They're not socially isolated. They have various shitty hugbox forums that reinforce and exacerbate their perversity. Back when they were socially isolated, there was no incel menace. It's groupthink that created what we now call incels.
Unfortunately, I do know someone who has no legs. both legs, gone.
you think any girl wants to get with him? even a brap hog? fuck it sucks.
But, most incels IMO are just neckbeards x2 that CAN get girls if they lost they weight or didnt literally have internet meme personalities, IRL. aka, they cant flirt or talk about normal hobbies outside of capeshit/vidya.
But, most incels IMO are just neckbeards x2 that CAN get girls if they lost they weight or didnt literally have internet meme personalities, IRL. aka, they cant flirt or talk about normal hobbies outside of capeshit/vidya.
that is true but something lead up to them turning out this way as opposed to "normal" guys.
Whatever the conditions are which produce people like that should be changed.
Pao's blind spot is that she isn't a Stacey by any means, and has only dreamed of romantically being with Chads. She doesn't care how many Chads and Staceys the violent incel takes out when they go postal.
Sounds good but not enough strictly inforced mandatory mtf transition treatments for people who are found to be incels, violent criminals and mentally ill.
White genocide is a lie. If you cannot get laid, it is your own fault. All incels....are volcels. Nobody is keeping you from getting laid but yourself. Stop dousing yourself in Axe body spray and go to the gym. Join a book club or something. Go outside and get a hobby other than Ocarina of Time speedrunning!
All the help they're getting comes from a shitty impersonal source. Would you take dating advice from some dad bod redditor who is patting himself on the back for landing some small fat? They need a personal friend's help, or a rope.
Most incels have little to no standards, going so far as to fuck men, FtM transexuals, animals, dead chickens, etc.
I honestly don't know where the fuck this "lel incels only want models" meme came from. Even if it were true what happened to that "being attracted to attractive people isn't s crime" shit? Also I feel as though incel hunters think any woman with bmi 28< is super model?
The problem with incels is all rooted in their self esteem and only positive experiences in real life from real people, not faggots on the second gayest website on the planet, will fix that.
Probably because nobody winds up there unless they've already had a lifetime of fallacies and shitty advice that did not personally help them, and so no new insights are being provided.
Unless of course, your help comes in the form of a woman seeking a relationship, and you're willing to play match maker. Because THAT will help, for sure. And that's why it's never offered.
That statistic doesn’t take into account prostitution. Even if it did, guys wouldn’t admit to it because it would be confessing to a felony, so they would instead say they lost their virginity without paying.
people who post that study don't understand how science works. this tells us that women rate 80% of men as below average, ok, but WHY?
is it because a large chunk of female sexuality is not visual, and actually mental/emotional? possibly. is it because men on dating sites are just ugly as fuck? that's possible , chad's can get laid in a bar or a party, they don't need gay sites like okcupid. i feel like tinder is more of a chad app, there are probably more hot dudes on tinder.
also, that study showed that women messaged men who they thought were below average, lots of the time. men on the other hand, only messaged stacy.
if anything, that study showed that women don't go by looks alone, something else makes them message men, but men all go for looks.
also, that sub is just one big cirlce jerk lol. a guy in that comments started pointing out some flaws in the theory of the guy that posted the study, and the guy, who is a mod, fucking banned him.
an incel black pill sub is not going to be a place to get a very good view of reality. i've personally seen quite a few studies showing personality traits influencing attractiveness to a high degree, yet that sub would never post those studies, only cherry picking studies that say "GIRLS ONLY WANT CHAD".
this is like comparing the kind of nutrition information you'd get from a dietician, to a vegan blog that cherry picks studies and misrepresents the data to prove that veganism is the healthiest diet.
That guy was banned because he was missing the point of the post.
The black pill IS reality. You don’t even need scientific evidence to see it, just open your eyes and LOOK AROUND. A vegan will say veganism is healthy, but if you LOOK AROUND, you se all the vegans look like zombies. The black pill says girls only want chad, and if you LOOK AROUND, you see that girls only go for the fucking models.
but i don't see guys only go for chads. i got a gf who was hot as fuck when i was scrawny. i see skinny lookin nerd dudes who i don't even think are hot at all walking around with girls i'd kill to bang.
also, the guy my hot ex was swooning over after she dumped me, was shorter than me, had a less masculine fact than me, wore glasses and looked kinda like a dweeb. she just kept talking about this smile and how nice he was.
girls don't only go for chad, but i won't like, chad gets more pussy, but fact is they don't ONLY go for chad. shit, all the dudes in school who got laid the most were short dudes with cute faces, they were just outgoing as fuck.
idk man, i never even heard this "girls only fuck the top 20%" myth till i went on reddit, and it contradicted everything i've seen in actual reality.
Well you better get ready, cus girls only wanting chad is quickly becoming a mainstream concept. You’ll see 80% of your sons wracked with mistrust of women, unable to have a fulfilling sexual relationship with any on them. You’ll watch them develop a general apathy towards life because they can’t find a partner. You’ll ask them if they’ve met any nice girls, and they’ll say like it’s the most obvious thing ever, “dad, girls only want chads, it’s over”. Prepare yourselves, it’s happening NOW.
but according to your logic, i'm a chad myself, since i do in fact date attractive women. so wouldn't i just end up breeding with a stacy and have kids with chad genes then?
That doesn’t really prove anything, unattractive guys have girls, some of which are very hot, date them, fake orgasms, and tell them they’re attractive. If you can go to a club and pick up any girls you want WITHOUT looking wealthy, that would prove it. That’s what a chad can do.
But even if you are that hot, genetic recombination ensures that there will still be more normie males than attractive ones.
i love how incel logic changes constantly to the point where it doesn't make sense.
"GIRLS ONLY WANT CHAD"
"but i've had hot girlfriends, am i chad then?"
"NO BECAUSE ROASTIES DATE NORMIE NON CHAD GUYS AND CUCK THEM"
"oh so they don't only date chads? regular guys can get hot girls?"
"NO THEY ONLY DATE CHAD, IT'S OVER"
"uhhh"
seriously, why don't you go date a hot roastie and just let her cuck you? it's better than not getting laid, you only care if the girl is cheating if you actually love her, i don't love any girls i date, loving women is for faggots, i just want the pussy, and it's easier to get constant and consistent sex if you're in a relationship with a hot girl, one night stands are much harder.
"Hey Brutus, backed in the good old days, slaves used to build monuments and water the gardens, now they're all just a bunch of sad, hate-filled murderous mobs roaming the countryside"
"Gee Claudius, how un-progressive! Don't they know that being useful to society is the only thing they ought to care about?"
most really smart eccentric geniuses were awkward virgins, but most awkward virgins were not eccentric geniuses. most of them were probably just ugly lower class losers.
just ostracize them more so they just kill themselves off.
Well that used to work fine until the internet allowed then to find each other without leaving their homes. Believe me it'd be nice if we could stop that from happening.
Help them? Find out why they suck so bad?
Imagine thinking there's a lack of availability for psychological/social counseling in 2018.
Isn't there though? I feel like being a loser is more or less a psychological state itself; plenty of ugly/fat/otherwise physically disadvantaged people manage to find ways to contribute something worthwhile to society and avoid feeling like losers as a result.
Isn't there though? I feel like being a loser is more or less a psychological state itself;
Sounds like learned helplessness. And the cure for that is long and difficult, assuming that they want to get out of the mindset to begin with, which having these sorts of communities doesn't help at all.
That just needs to happen irl in order for them to not feel like losers irl.
The biggest issue you're going to face is that these communities are up and running. Simply stamping them out won't help, it'll just cause them to pop up someplace else that's harder to zap and cause people within it to further isolate themselves. Idiots like Pao don't help matters either since they can now point to relatively powerful and influential people actively trying to hurt them now.
IMO there is and there isn't, as little sense as that may make. I work for a grubhub clone in a college town and you probably wouldn't be shocked to hear that it's staffed and run A. almost entirely by men and B. frequently staffed by the socially inept/mentally ill, to the point that we have to fire otherwise competent people because they're so utterly toxic. Of the two most recent, one is an incel and possibl
IMO there is and there isn't, as little sense as that may make. Fitting in with a particular community or being good at a particular, say, professional niche does not translate to being good with women. That may as well be another world and if there was an actually good answer the red pill wouldn't have an audience, kind of like how AA and 12 step programs like it are still the default for addiction in spite of having a lousy success rate and being pseudoscience at best because we've yet to discover a genuinely better alternative.
Fitting in with a particular community or being good at a particular, say, professional niche does not translate to being good with women
It doesn't even translate into avoiding incel forums. Literally we're commenting on an article about incels who work in tech companies making big money doing well-respected work.
> Fitting in with a particular community or being good at a particular, say, professional niche does not translate to being good with women.
Right, and I feel like that's an important distinction to look at, because people who fit that description probably don't think of themselves as "losers" in most senses of the word, but may still end up identifying as incels if they get frustrated enough. So clearly "incel" isn't completely included within the category of "losers", and as such the different conditions probably require fundamentally different approaches. Perhaps there's more of an element of narcissism present in the incel complex?
Regardless, my incredibly optimistic hope is that the amount of attention they're getting leads to an increased awareness of their presence and the situations that create them, and some non-trivial effort to reduce the latter.
Perhaps there's more of an element of narcissism present in the incel complex?
I think so. I mean, there's a ton of people who check varying numbers of incel boxes, myself included, but speaking for myself I've rarely been bothered to care about that. I mean, I know that what I've wanted has exceeded what I've had to offer so I've procrastinated/tried to improve until the two are at least on the same planet. I may never find what I want in a romantic relationship but I'm okay with that and surveying those who have them they either have tons to offer or have been very willing to compromise, save for my dad who IMO legitimately hit the online dating lottery. I've had an unwanted woman be obsessed with/stalk me and been in unrequited love with a woman. The latter situation made me an emotional retard for a few months but eventually we got through it and we're good friends now.
As dumb as it sounds I just want someone to experience and complain about life with, lol. I also used to be a fatty and personally it was disillusioning how going from 240lbs to 170lbs (@6'1) did absolutely nothing for my internal self-image or social skills.
it was disillusioning how going from 240lbs to 170lbs (@6'1) did absolutely nothing for my internal self-image or social skills.
Right? For me it happened right before high school, and it was frustrating feeling as though I just couldn't measure up to what my classmates were up to socially. I was lucky to have a few good friends who helped make me feel like a normal person and made some great memories along the way.
The issue is there is a general questionable attitude towards sexual prowess in society and lots of status competition and shitty masculinity memes. They all contribute to the issue
The world doesn't care about "incels". Sure, there have always been virgin white guys that take their frustrations out on society, but seeing negareddit types and Pao wring their hands about a 30k strong group of sad dudes whose only characteristic is not having sex reflects more poorly on them than the incels.
Aspirationally we want our culture to allow everyone to contribute their best, most meaningful work. In both cases, that absolutely entails creating a diverse and inclusive culture—and that means rooting out and banning incel beliefs.
The most diverse and inclusive cultures in history all thrived on banning beliefs, of course.
I dont care if there is an incel purge. Does anyone remember when the mods of r/4chan wrote fanfiction where Ellen Pao fucked them? I want to read it again for the lols.
Boy, it's going to be a delight watching those milquetoast soyboys who bought into the inclusive software culture get side tracked hard and maybe sent to prison, or get ostracised.
Can you imagine the ludicrously high quality FOSS that these nerds will be making when they get fired from Google and instead angrily code all day at home?
Jesus Christ, I just realized I should be thanking Pao for bringing on the next tech boom. There's gonna be hologram catgirls dancing on my desk by 2022.
Hey Ellen, I figured out a Final Solution to your Incel Problem. If you're so bothered by their presence in tech companies, then fuck them, they would no longer be incels, and you'll no longer have incels in tech companies.
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1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
Previous Drama: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8gru00/ellen_pao_calls_out_the_incel_menace/
Also https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8h2gdc/is_there_a_word_for_when_people_all/, https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8fn1hv/economics_professor_suggests_solution_to_the/, https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8gqryj/the_redistribution_of_sex_nytimes_opinion_piece/
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Remember when I said incel would become the new "nazi" and would just be a term thrown at anyone the cringe-left doesn't like?
Creepy guys.
Virgins.
Anti-feminists.
MRAs.
Remember when a bunch of dumb ass SRDines came in here and told me I was wrong and incel would only be thrown at actual incels?
Pizzashill remembers.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
We knew you were right, but pretty much everyone is OK with bullying virgins.
1 Neon_needles 2018-06-19
They should rape them. Win-win for both parties.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Why has no one brought this solution forward until now. True brillance is simplicity.
1 Candideeststupide 2018-06-19
Because the man doesnt want us to win
1 daneelr_olivaw 2018-06-19
Yeah, and also because they will just make incels rape each other. That will just a win the spectators, not for the 'people' in question.
1 Chicup 2018-06-19
Have you seen them?
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Do you think professional rapists are par-ticular in their choices?
1 Chicup 2018-06-19
What does rape pay these days?
I suppose it depends on their male-feminist paetron account.....
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
I was more thinking of professional mercnaries or battle hardened vets from various under the radar conflicts world wide. These 'Cels will wake up to the world real quick. Problem solved...
'CelsToo
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-06-19
1 GadolBoobies 2018-06-19
Male feminists have that covered.
1 -4x- 2018-06-19
Incels should rape bullies, right?
1 Candideeststupide 2018-06-19
nah their technique would be all off
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-19
Bullying is NEVER ok.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Bullying incels is social justice
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-06-19
It's okay if I don't like the target.
1 Ewindal 2018-06-19
Bullying people with anime avatars is ok
1 Manannin 2018-06-19
It’s basically an open invitation.
1 Mikeavelli 2018-06-19
Did you see what that avatar was wearing?
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-06-19
"people"
1 freet0 2018-06-19
I want to be bullied
1 SighsUnzips 2018-06-19
Your mother wears combat boots.
1 ryzyryz 2018-06-19
and cargo pants
1 cimarafa 2018-06-19
Incels are debatable, but MDEgenerates? Can’t say I have any ragrets about that.
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-19
What did he mean by this
1 cimarafa 2018-06-19
tru, tru.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-06-19
You mean what did She mean by this, shitlord!
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-19
M'y apologies m'lad'y
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-06-19
what's the difference?
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-06-19
> MDEgenerates
wow, we're reaching levels of inability to meme that shouldn't even be possible.
1 cimarafa 2018-06-19
what's the problem, big guy :) u seem a little miffed if u don't mind my saying xD
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-06-19
I'm trying to get Million Dollar Babies to catch on. SRDines get the can, and they get the stool, spoiler alert.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-06-19
this but ironically
1 JohnBlind 2018-06-19
Where do you think you are?
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-19
Correct, it's great.
1 allendrio 2018-06-19
Dat fire
1 masterstick8 2018-06-19
Oh man, this is great too because imagine if Steve Huffman did an article called "Why Sluts Do So Well At Tech Companies"
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
Nah man. Incels are incels. If you call yourself one then you are one. Unless you're hiding behind some meme ideology like TERFs lol
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
The people they're claiming are incels likely do not identify as incel.
She's making wild accusations and providing no evidence or support for her claim.
The one "example" she provided was just a creepy guy that tried to film women in a bathroom.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
to be fair you have admitted to hating women. I don't think that you are an incel but you are a misogynist. You need to fix that if you want to grow as a person.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
I don't even hate women. I just want nothing to do with them.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
Ok but is your wanting nothing to do with them rational ?
Its more likely to do with your ego. Women make you insecure. You hate how you are attracted to them. You hate how they make you vulnerable.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
It doesn't have to be rational. It's a personal choice. Most things people do aren't rational.
Lmao what?
A) not a teenager.
B) Nothing you said is accurate.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
You can't remove yourself from half of humanity. Thats not only silly, its bad for you.
Yes its part of growing up and becoming a man. I know people like you pizzashill. I know you very well.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
But you don't because nothing you said is accurate.
1 TheLastCrawler 2018-06-19
Ignore them. Money >> bitches
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-19
as if anyone on /r/drama has any of either
1 U-TRON 2018-06-19
Just because you're broke, stupid and sexless doesn't mean the rest of us are. Sometimes I just want to go online and punch down for a while.
1 LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT 2018-06-19
Are you gay, straight or asexual? Reply to this question. There's no other option.
Either you're gay and the wanting nothing to do with women is fine. Or you're asexual and then you might as well just kill yourself. Or you're straight and then wanting nothing to do with women means you're afraid cause you can't deal with them and you have some kind of issues.
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-06-19
Imagine caring this much about one person on the internet.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
am a nice person
1 CummyBot-1999 2018-06-19
Can confirm, I think life_is_painfull is a nice man
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
thanks cummy, missed you btw.
1 CummyBot-1999 2018-06-19
Aw thank you mate
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-06-19
You'll have to change that if you want to grow as a person
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Yeah nice man hatred. Why don't you go over to the female subs filled with man hatred and analyse them?
1 LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT_LIT 2018-06-19
You want to get fucked by girls, cause you're too afraid to fuck.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
He could go gay.
1 mayocide-when 2018-06-19
Yes you can, you could remove 80% of humanity from your life and still have a great life.
1 Kelkymcdouble 2018-06-19
Or even 80% of humanity from their lives
1 lickedTators 2018-06-19
But mayos are only 20% of humanity?
1 Zizac 2018-06-19
jfc you are embarrassing
1 FcpEcvRtq 2018-06-19
The fact you've generalized KHHHVs as "its just because ure insecure about womyn" shows you dont understand the KHHHV mindset. Which shouldn't be hard to understand; browsing non-inceloid virgin forum would give you a general idea, but you clearly havent done that
1 disgruntled_chode 2018-06-19
pls explain
1 FcpEcvRtq 2018-06-19
Kisless hugless hand-holdless virgin
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Well, at least the hugless-part doesn't apply to me. I'm basically Chad.
1 ashtray_cup 2018-06-19
Nigga you ever heard of monks n shit?
I here they made a whole profession outta separating themsevles from society. You telling those young Buddha's aren't rational or are insecure?
1 freet0 2018-06-19
But girls are cute
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
The 2D kind are.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
1D women or GTFO
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Yeah, you're an incel.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-19
pretty sure theyre just annoying and dont provide anything to non sexual relationships
1 ImNakedYo 2018-06-19
You people need to learn that your armchair analysis of random people on reddit is laughably wrong 99.99% of the time and to stop doing it because it’s cringeworthy as fuck.
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Lol. You're just another retarded man hater. What's wrong with having nothing to do with that trash gender after how one has been treated.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
who really cares why? as long as he isn't harming anyone, is a choice to not date women or fuck them really that bad?
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
Remember this, lololol. Also RIP /u/Yiin as your request that was fulfilled has been reversed 😭
1 Yiin 2018-06-19
Scientific evidence that Im better at being an annoying prick than you. 😊
1 ffbtaw 2018-06-19
Pizzashill should start writing for the Washinton Post.
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-19
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Wanting nothing to do with women doesn't = MGTOW.
Different motivations.
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-19
💭 🧠 🤸♀️🤸♀️🤸♀️
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-19
We have a kat_bot here now? Who programmed this?
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Whammen are people too, bro. Ladybrain isn't that different from dudebrain.
If you're concerned that you might want to fuck them and do something stupid because of it, why not start by just interacting with grannies? (insert some very obvious jokes about certain paraphilias) Do you not have female relatives you could talk to? Why not volunteer at a home for the elderly or something?
Not that you have to force yourself to be around anyone just because of their gender. But assuming that you will actually one day meet and interact with people, I fear that you'll have built up your hang-ups with whammen so much that you'll be incapable of talking to them, and feeling nervous around 50% of the population just seems like a drag.
None of this applies if you happen to live in Saudi-Arabia, where you can probably go without seeing a woman in your life.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
I want everyone to take a look at how deeply fucking offended these people get when you make a simple, personal choice.
They literally can't handle it.
1 OldOrder 2018-06-19
I support your choice because it makes you sperg out like a retard every couple days.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
I just think it's a pretty interesting conversational topic that happens to catch my attention right now.
As far as personal choices go, disavowing an entire gender is just... a bit quirky. It's a bit like exclusively wanting to date 2D women, or exclusively walking on the tip of your toes or something.
Sure, it affects only you and no-one else, but you can't stop people from being fascinated by such a decision, especially when there doesn't seem to be a specific reason for the behavior.
I don't think you're a bad person. I won't discount your opinions just because you do one thing that weirds me out a little. You've written a lot of insightful posts (for /r/Drama at least) that demonstrate a capacity for nuanced thought (this sounds condescending as shit. But on a site populated by Chapotards and MDEgenerates, I think this is important to point out).
But the women thing is just one thing that seems glaringly incongruent with the rest of your online persona. Not wanting anything to do with women is not very Radical Centrist, dude. That's all.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
There are specific reasons.
I don't like certain traits that are primarily found within women.
Not wanting to be around women isn't right or left. It doesn't belong to either side of the spectrum.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
what traits are those ?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Women are way more agreeable than men are so you never know if they actually agree with you or it's just them being women.
Women have higher levels of neuroticism than men.
Women will rarely shit talk you to your face. They'll just be nice to you up front and then shit talk you behind your back. At least men will be up front with you most of the time because we're used to shit talking each other.
Women tend to display seriously levels of "victim complex."
Women are raised to believe they're entitled to male attention.
Women are manipulative.
Young women are always looking for an angle, something they can get out of you. It's why so many of them have beta friendzone orbiters. Many women see no problem with exploiting the betas like this. But it's disgusting to me.
The list goes on and on. I decided to cut women out of my life because these reasons justified it to me. It might not be rational, you might not agree with it, but it isn't your choice and it isn't hurting anyone.
This is a free country. If I want nothing to do with women, that's my choice and my right.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
Ok, I don't think any of those things are true but its your life.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
At least 2 of them are backed by research.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
but not the bad ones like women are always looking for an angle. I doubt you decided women have these characteristics through science. You obviously came up with these theories and then found science papers that back your way of thinking. You are doing the same thing trumpets do when it comes to using arguing with science.
And even if women are as you say they are men also have their negative characteristics. We are more violent. You are more likely to die from another man. Men are literally more dangerous than women. Does this mean you are going to cut yourself men?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
https://www.psypost.org/2016/02/young-women-with-high-emotional-intelligence-more-likely-to-be-manipulative-40990
Wow.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
young women with high emotional intelligence. Bro,You are picking research that agrees with your misogyny. Am sure men with high emotional intelligence will also very manipulative.
Also it makes sense that women would be very good at emotionally manipulating people. They have physically weaker bodies, this is an easier defense.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
TIL not wanting anything to do with women is "misogyny."
That's right folks, if you make a choice, a personal choice that has literally no impact on women whatsoever, you hate women.
Ok? I didn't say it wasn't a valid strategy. I said I want nothing to do with it.
Even if it's justified - that doesn't change how I feel.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
not wanting anything to do with women is misogyny.
Am not trying to attack you mate. You do you.but at least understand why you are this way.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
I don't accept definitions of words that have been twisted and warped by rabid femtards.
1 life_is_painfull_ 2018-06-19
seriously? You have stereotyped women and claim to want nothing to do with them. I don't want anything to do with shit but thats because shit stinks. I hate it. If you don't want something around you its cause you dislike it.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Not wanting anything to do with women is not misogyny. Your usage of a buzzterm is denied.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
If some womyn posted a comment like this then I'd conclude, quite firmly, they were a "rabid femtard".
I think you might be acting a little hypocritical on this particular issue here dawg, but we probably won't come to an agreement.
It seems you've been hurt by women and it's okay to want to protect yourself from more hurt. But since I'm a "disagreeable" man, I won't refrain from calling bullshit when pretty much all of us SJW feminazis on /r/Drama agree that you're bigoted against women and that blanket disavowing a whole gender is a huge overreaction to whatever pain these women caused you.
Feel free to disagree, maybe you are right and everyone else is wrong brah.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
That's neat, you're entitled to believe whatever you'd like. Notice how I don't care what you believe or personally think?
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
That's a little too agreeable to my liking dawg.
1 genericunimportant 2018-06-19
Pizzashill confirmed a wammen?
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Self-hate can be a bitch.
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
The female subs have millions of man haters. Yet you attempt to bully a single man because he wants nothing to do with femoids. Yeah no agenda here.
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Hey man hater, what do you think of the 2017 statistics showing she creatures have never been faithful these last 8000 years.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
I'm a dude and I'm pretty damn agreeable in real life. The only reason I post on edgelord subs like /r/Drama is to vent about stuff that would get me ostracized in real life (or in any of the more "fragile" subreddits).
I'm neurotic as fuck bro.
Not going to bother to respond to the rest of the post, but it's cool that you've thrown us a bone by explaining yourself.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
Your specific instance doesn't trump his general case. Basic logic.
Not that I'm saying he's right either. A single failure to prove someone wrong doesn't prove they're right. Ah, logic, 'tis of thee.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
> Your specific instance doesn't trump his general case. Basic logic.
Not really the point I was trying to make dude. But his logic reminds me of the ["Bowl of M&M's"](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bowl-of-m-ms) type argument that bigots (and specifically, feminist bigots trying to argue for discrimination against men) use as an argument for their bigotry. (Yeah, I linked to KnowYourMeme. Pretty sad).
Sure, certain traits are more prevalent among women than among men, but let's say it's debatable whether that justifies a blanket disavowal of an entire demographic. Especially since there's plenty of people with dicks (like myself) who share a lot of the traits that he dislikes, even if such traits are less prevalent among "my" gender.
1 I-need-MAYO 2018-06-19
Did I miss some drama here? I didn't know anything was wrong with KYM.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Linking to a website called "KnowYourMeme", and not the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy or some other highfalutin' website, acutely reminds me of the fact that I'm actually spending time arguing on a website dedicated to farming virtual validation points in exchange for posting le dank maymays.
1 atsteak 2018-06-19
Everyone has their vices. Alcohol, drugs, reddit...
1 LightUmbra 2018-06-19
It's a super normie thing to do.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
Oh, I'm not arguing one little bit about it being justifiable - only that your instance doesn't refute the assertion that some characteristics are more common to women. (Nor does that prove that the assertion is true, either.)
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
Ah, fuck... I unironically agree with all of this.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
My take:
I actually don't know any sex-obsessed men now that I'm out of school. I don't think I've ever known any violent or abusive men.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Well, I don't really know many women who fit /u/pizzashill "s description either, especially the parts about being manipulative, only interested in friendzoning men to get something out of them, and self-victimization. But maybe that's because I've been manipulated so thoroughly that I don't even realize it.
Or it's just my social circle.
I mean, I've never heard a white guy say "dirty nigger", but my neighbor Tyrone says it's been said to him loads of times by mayo dudes. So is he lying?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
It's hilarious watching how offended people get when you're different than they are, or do something they don't like.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
I'm glad you're amused dude, I find your views on this particular issue quite amusing too. As I said, maybe I'm the stupid one and you're the enlightened one. No hatorade here, just shooting the shit, just having a good man 2 man talk, etc. etc.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Vmd0h38-A
1 Heydammit 2018-06-19
No one finds it offensive you mongoloid.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
spoken with the disagreeableness of a real man.
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Delete your account huh man hater. Run off to your feminist spaces on reddit, coward.
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Gossiping, being hypocrites, sexists, thinking they're so much better than men.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
lol incel
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
DIG DEEP.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
I didn't need to, /u/StricltyButters did it for me
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Wow!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
Hey pizza, regardless of what I've said to you in the past, I like you 🤗
And the drama you cause is just a bonus 😘
1 LightUmbra 2018-06-19
Vagina
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
Fuck you, and everyone in your household.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
o.O why did you highlight the least triggering part of my post and "fuck you" me?
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
t
1 ______________pewpew 2018-06-19
Why do you hate women then
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
It's amazing all the men raised to hate men if one doesn't worship women. Somehow you're just supposed ignores females disgusting behavior since they have ugly smelly holes between their legs.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
because they can't imagine life without women giving them validation with pussy and boring relationships.
the idea that you MIGHT be somewhat happy while ignoring women, and without putting as much effort into women as they are, makes them feel insecure.
1 Not_RCMP_ 2018-06-19
Lost me there tbh
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-19
FAKE
NEWS
1 froibo 2018-06-19
It's the fucking very definition of it you just don't want to be associated with them because you know they are losers.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
No. It's ok, I don't expect people such as yourself to have a real comprehension of this subject.
1 froibo 2018-06-19
You say that as if it should be something to be ashamed of.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
I mean, you should avoid discussing topics you don't understand.
1 froibo 2018-06-19
How is it possible for someone to be smug for meaningless nuances that they invented?
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
You don't even understand MGTOW. These aren't nuances I invented, they're just reality.
MGTOW decided they were done with women because they believe the system is broken and they want no part of it.
They believe the entire power dynamic is rigged against men.
I do not believe any of this. I just want nothing to do with women. I don't even blame women for it.
There are real nuances here, and your inability to comprehend them does not mean I invented them.
1 froibo 2018-06-19
Uh huh.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Anyone that even knows the basics of the MGTOW movement knows what I just said is completely true.
Go ask them yourselves.
Why do you think they're always screeching about artificial wombs?
1 froibo 2018-06-19
Pizza my shill, forgive me, I can't understand MGTOW as much as a charter member.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Hot take: being educated as to what other people believe doesn't mean you're a member of that group.
1 froibo 2018-06-19
Literally more pathetic than a gender studies major.
1 -Steve_French- 2018-06-19
Pizza you're not a MGTOW loser, you're your own special kind of loser. Never change
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Shocking, another person that has no comprehension of what MGTOW is.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-06-19
More like /r/MGTOWWOM
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-06-19
Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men's behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
1 NatieB 2018-06-19
An oldie but a goodie
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-19
was this some pompeii graffiti?
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
yep
1 bcat124 2018-06-19
weak. you should hate femoids
1 DammitEd 2018-06-19
Tell me your story, why do you want nothing to do with them?
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
i recall seeing a post he wrote about it. he dated some crazy bitches one after the other and thought "that's enough for me". it might be a phase he gets over, who cares anyway, pussy and relationships are overrated massively, anyone who has access to these things knows that.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-19
r/MGTOWWOM
1 PhysicsIsMyMistress 2018-06-19
No he doesn't.
1 LightUmbra 2018-06-19
I'm sure if he ate more he'd grow.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-06-19
He does. The better question would be why we'd want /u/pizzashill to grow as a person.
1 Not_RCMP_ 2018-06-19
Hating women is how you grow as a person.
1 gumble212 2018-06-19
Imagine posting that on /r/drama of all places
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
literally every great male mind in history, all philosophers, inventors and geniuses , said extremely misogynistic shit constantly.
basically, everyone smart knows women are pieces of shit.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-06-19
ya these are probably the same dudes they were calling “techbros” last year
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
No these are the exact opposite. Those guys were too alpha and uninhibited. These ones are too beta (omega?) and shy.
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
Yeah but that's exactly the kind of thing that guys who can't get laid end up doing.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Non-TERF feminists are poseurs
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-19
Fixed. 😘
1 leva549 2018-06-19
as
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
TERF come in two shade. Soccer mom conservative that do not want to call herself conservative and radfem that want to kill all men.
The radfem are the most sensible of the lot.
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-19
How physically attractive would you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
I've posted pictures of myself in various discords. Feel free to go find them.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-19
How much heat are you packing down below? Be honest.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
Hot
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-19
Imagine Pizza's 3 inch punisher pounding you whilst he calls you a "dirty femoid slut".
I'm leaking like a faulty fridge just thinking about it. 😵
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
Nah homie. I've heard /u/pizzashill is packing that 7 inch girthy goodness! 😩💦
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
I've seen it, it's 6.8 inches of meaty thiccness but it smells like a pizza hutt.
1 k0bra3eak 2018-06-19
Huh odd place to find you, reddit is smaller than I thought.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-19
This is one of the two subs I visit besides r/metal haha. It's my release valve.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Buddy, you were just saying that you like to keep personal details concealed (concerning career) and I thought that was smart. Trust me, in a couple years you're not going to want the stuff you say about women associated with your face.
I'm not saying this to insult you, just trying to encourage a little foresight. Your brand of misogyny would make you unemployable outside of shit jobs.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Don't worry about me bud.
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-19
it's hard not to worry about you the second you realize that you're not trolling with these opinions
you legit need psychiatric help. "unironically"
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Found the helpbitty promoted top thread shill. Guess what bucko....the DSM is changing again :0
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-19
I didn't understand hardly any of the words you just said to me
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Even though I'd end up a dead kulak, I'd love to see this outcome just because it'd be hilarious.
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
I love how this article goes several steps past that. Pao is blatantly fearmongering, with 0 distinction between normal virgins and "ideology of hate" incels. She considers free speech arguments and “Sunlight is the best disinfectant” to be completely misguided. Completely unironically says "that means rooting out and banning incel beliefs".
The hunt for incels is on, apparently.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
I smell a business opportunity. I provide paid girls to hangout with the boys at work functions or a night out with cow orkers. 💰💰💰
1 SlavHomero 2018-06-19
Can't turn a ho into a corporate anti-virginity consultant. Because a ho don't act right.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Put the ho in a headgear of some sort. Deception takes many forms.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
Is it possible that you meant "accoutrements"?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
The way he said it seems more sophisticated
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
More like he'd fallen foul of text-to-speech (maybe) or was trying to use words he couldn't spell.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Noń mi amoré
1 EloeOmoe 2018-06-19
accoutrement you dip
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-19
PHONETIC SPELLERS UNTIE!!!
1 carthoris26 2018-06-19
That's not how you pronounce it in English though. He's wrong twice.
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-06-19
It is if you try and sound French in the middle of sounding redneck.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Dis but a flesh woond
1 trapochaphouse 2018-06-19
Lmao probably uses wahlah too.
1 snallygaster 2018-06-19
/u/allwordsaredust this would be a good anime too. A secret organization deploys escorts on missions to seduce incels and rid the city of the sexual frustration that's leading young men to radicalize and form extremist militia/terrorist groups, thus saving the city and eventually the wurld.
1 allwordsaredust 2018-06-19
Nah, if it's an anime the women can't be distributed to all the incels, there's got to be an ordinary japanese highschooler at the centre of it who all the women inexplicably fall in love with. Maybe this could be the villain's plan, and our brave hero could save the poor women from the grubby hands of incels(despite being one himself).
1 snallygaster 2018-06-19
That sure does sound like weebshit.
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-19
I say the escorts are all femme fatales and after seducing the incels, they straight up assassinate them. Makes for a more fun story
1 Assy-McGee 2018-06-19
Black Widows?
1 snallygaster 2018-06-19
Can you recommend an anime to me? I loved Made in Abyss and am almost through Hunter x Hunter. The friendy friends going on adventures stuff is great.
1 Assy-McGee 2018-06-19
Not Friend Adventures but these two are pretty good.
“Violet Evergarden” is a slow burn and takes a few episodes to establish its world building, but the payoff is really good.
“Megalo Box” is airing this season and isn’t finished yet.
1 snallygaster 2018-06-19
Sweet, thanks
1 Assy-McGee 2018-06-19
at least give me something back in return for revealing my weebness.
Unban me from SRD and then give me one free trolling pass it's only fair come on
1 snallygaster 2018-06-19
You can combine this with /u/allwordsaredust's idea where they spare one high school boy who all the women inexplicably fall in love with and then he helps them defeat the evil incels with some hot yuri action hamfistedly inserted somewhere.
1 Dopella 2018-06-19
Is that the new meme word for a fat person?
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-19
this country's lack of education funding has really come home to roost
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
We are ALL Muricans on this blessed day.
1 ffbtaw 2018-06-19
Ecoute-moi, c'est accoutrement.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
¿Colis eś day tabernac?
1 ffbtaw 2018-06-19
Tuesday retard, non?
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Foo-twa meildé mamå?
1 ffbtaw 2018-06-19
Sacre blood!
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
I hope we get like an extreme missandrist for the next president and I can start a chad business that literally hunts incels for sport with bows am arrows and shit. It would be like the vampire hunting movies, I'd go into a tech giant and flash my chad badge and certain "men" would start sweating. Suddenly a 5'6" menlet breaks off their computer bench and starts booking it, too bad they're not as fast as an arrow from my recurve bow, the first and last penetration their bodies would ever know.
1 HINDBRAIN 2018-06-19
How would you deal with kevlar waifu pillows?
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
I would beat them to death with their own waifu.
1 I-need-MAYO 2018-06-19
Hawt.
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
You'd get your ass beat and stripped just like in Akiba's trip.
1 allwordsaredust 2018-06-19
This sounds like the plot to an anime. Only in the anime, a single hunted incel would end up with a harem by the end. Including the president.
1 DrRockzosCocaine 2018-06-19
I read that in Dwight Schrute's voice, it just seems totally like something he would say.
Nick Offerman(Ron Swanson from P&R) would work to though.
1 serialflamingo 2018-06-19
Ruined my immersion.
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
It's a euphemism for my still wet large cock from stacy on the drive over.
1 ffbtaw 2018-06-19
Stacy gave you a wet large cock on the drive over? kinky
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
She also made my medium cock wet in the process :)
1 saddertadder 2018-06-19
wanting to hunt with bow and arrow is proof that you are an incel 🤣
1 _Suprememe_ 2018-06-19
In the misandry universe I would start a company called Incelnerator that conducts incel background checks. All I need to do is approach a techie media outlet sympathetic to the Incelnerator mission statement and with that spark of exposure all of Silicon Valley will be scrambling to integrate my services into their applicant background check regimens. My newfound clout in the tech world could then be leveraged to secure data-sharing partnerships with all mainstream dating and social media apps. Incelnerator's proprietary CelDetectTM virginity analysis combined with the datasets of our valued partners will allow an employer to determine whether a prospect harbors toxic virginity with 99.999% accuracy. The workplace of tomorrow will be the workplace of Chads.
1 GunOfSod 2018-06-19
Found the incel!
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-06-19
I'm pretty sure she got PTSD from being reddit CEO.
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 IllustriousQuail 2018-06-19
It sounds like we need a House Un-Chadlike Activities Committee (HUAC) to subpoena people and get to the bottom of this.
1 NormanImmanuel 2018-06-19
For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: "pizzashill was right again"
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
My word, it's not every day you see "Maud Mueller" parodied around here.
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
It may actually be every day. Ever since it was first parodied for /pol/ it's been overused.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-06-19
Highbrow stuff.
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-19
It's control-left.
1 Manannin 2018-06-19
Shift-control (to the) left.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2018-06-19
doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely as aut-right does, but i like it
will start using it from now on
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
It's OK to purge ideological incels, they're nuts. If you see a guy browsing and posting on /r/braincels, fire that guy without a second though.
If you're going to use ideological incels as a starting point to bully anyone who hasn't done it for some reason, you're being an asshole.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-06-19
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Dramacel = volcel, not real incel.
1 EarnestNoMeta 2018-06-19
dramacel lmao i like this one
1 parameciidae 2018-06-19
Yeah, it's turning into a mess. The word is going to lose all meaning. Like how any vaguely progressive guy who is accused of harrasment suddenly becomes a "feminist". People are going to lose the ability to talk about actual incels because everyone will assume the word is just being thrown around willy nilly.
1 istural 2018-06-19
It’s nice to see the Nostradamus of our time proven right yet again.
1 broden 2018-06-19
You should get some screenshots and display them
1 PizzaHoe696969 2018-06-19
The problem is that they don't eat enough pizza.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Well yeah... but you're an actual incel.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
provide proof I've ever posted in an incel sub.
post proof I've ever identified as an incel.
post proof I'm an incel.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Hahaha, I don't owe you shit, incel.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
That's exactly what I thought. Next time you make wild accusations on the internet make sure you can support them.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Tell you what, I'll do whatever the hell I want, while you go fuck yourself, incel.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
[citation needed]
1 masterstick8 2018-06-19
The guy whose only post is in /r/ElderScrollsOnline calling others an incel
WEW
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Except... I have sex fairly regularly, thats the thing.
1 wwaalleess 2018-06-19
You can make your hand as slippery and soft as you want, it still doesn't count as having sex.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
...and I'm married.
1 Kahina91 2018-06-19
Your body pillow can't consent to marriage you massive faggot.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Hey, can you get this cumstain out of my tuxedo mask waifu?
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-19
that's the most incel comment in this whole thread.
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
I think 3-4 times a week with my husband is fairly regularly, no?
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-19
that's disgusting
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Only when its really, really good.
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-06-19
Sounds like a dead bedroom
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Eh, it satisfies.
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-06-19
I dropped this
/s. I think it's a very good schedule1 Mikeavelli 2018-06-19
That is an obscene expectation for wild internet accusations.
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Dammit.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-19
Get back on your main Ellen
1 threepyskake 2018-06-19
Continue never having sex in your entire life.
1 sovietsleepover 2018-06-19
Get stuffed into a locker, nerd.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
Except all of those groups are literally, unironically incels. V
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Oh yes indeed, anyone that is critical of feminism is totally, in reality, an incel.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
White anti-feminist geeks are incels. No woman has sex with them, ever. You don't have a point.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Can you provide some proof for your claim?
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
You.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
So no proof then.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
How many women have you slept with in your life?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
4.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
Anime harem doesn't count.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
You're entitled to believe whatever you' like to believe.
1 apoptosiscel 2018-06-19
Cope. Women don't care about Chad's ideology if they want to fuck. So called feminists would fuck neo Nazis over an ugly goodboi incel if the neo Nazi is Chad enough.
https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay
The famous case of Laci Green. An outspoken feminist who now has a notorious anti-feminist and GamerGate supporting boyfriend
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Laci_Green#Switching_sides.3F
Looks > all else
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
Literlally didn't even read LOL incel 💁♀️
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-19
lol do you pretend to care about womens issues to try and get them to have sex with you
little weird
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
not everyone on this site is a straight white male 👩🏫
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-06-19
It might have actually improved your image if you didn't do so much damage to yourself in half your posts
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Imagine thinking I care about /r/drama image.
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-06-19
Dang I shoulda known that wouldn't getcha
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-06-19
You've been outsperged
1 siskonaut 2018-06-19
He's actually impervious. Literally anyone who throws shit at him misses and gets countered. He's the Floyd Mayweather of internet autism.
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-06-19
I had to Google impervious
1 MasonTaylor22 2018-06-19
I never doubted you.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-06-19
No one fucks with our pizzashill except for us.
1 froibo 2018-06-19
Shut up incel
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
[citation needed]
1 Gtyyler 2018-06-19
I will remove incel from my vocab and replace it with pizzashill. I would also open r/pizzashilltears, but I am a lazy fuck who doesnt want to bother.
1 roofied_elephant 2018-06-19
I got called an incel for asking if the guy would have felt empathy for Hitler in a post about xxxtentacion getting killed. It’s kind of fascinating watching words evolve so quickly.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-19
i mean thats been their go to strategy for at least 5 years
1 Trustingoo 2018-06-19
Wow. Just stumbled upon this sub.
That you use the word “cringe” to describe anyone other than yourselves is the ultimate irony.
Every post, every thread on r/drama oozes pure cringe.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
That's adorable, we've got a wild retard.
1 Trustingoo 2018-06-19
whatever eases the despair champ!
1 pizzashill 2018-06-19
Despair, that's cute.
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
don't forget to enjoy your stay
1 butwomenarejustpeopl 2018-06-19
Trashy man haters. Females are so hypocritical.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
I knew Ellen Pao was 💞🌈🦄 /ourgirl/ 💞🌈🦄.
1 TheEquimanthorn 2018-06-19
Her and Anita are the tag team incel/mysogonist cucking squad.
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
I would die for them <3
1 Assy-McGee 2018-06-19
inshAnita brother
1 UsifMugabe 2018-06-19
please do.
1 BigBrownDog12 2018-06-19
A match made in heaven
1 cimarafa 2018-06-19
Idk why Ed is so downvoted here - Ellen is an r/drama babe.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-06-19
I was downvoted here? Lmaooo. Looks like the tides turned here
1 cimarafa 2018-06-19
yeah there was some downsnozzling going on when I first arrived here
1 Plexipus 2018-06-19
With a single stroke of her pen she creates more drama than most people do in their entire lives—of course she is /ourgal/
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-06-19
#BringThePaowerBack
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-19
Imagine getting a JD and MBA from Harvard only to have your career end with a failed gender discrimination lawsuit and being a wicker woman for reddit. All the while you're married to a gay man because you were too busy to build a real family. Of course she's bitter. I feel sorry for her a bit. I hope she makes a political run.
1 ArlenBilldozer 2018-06-19
She has a kid so that usually means family....?
1 DrRockzosCocaine 2018-06-19
Wouldn't be the first time a gay man had a baby with a woman
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Remember how much drama we wrung out of her though? That shit was fun.
1 ALoudMouthBaby 2018-06-19
No, I do however her making a ton of Redditors incredibly upset by merely existing. Now that was the funny part of that whole mess.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
good idea fuck over incels, socially maladjusted individuals even more at work, this will never backfire.
1 HailSanta2512 2018-06-19
She got fucked in the arse by that failed defamation suit and now she's trying to share that butthurt around. Typical female logic really, if she's suffering then everyone has to suffer.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
LOL
Guess what world, there are dudes who are virgins and lead unhappy lives without love or sex. These guys are miserable and lash out. Usually they are either so socially awkward they can't score, or they are butt ugly or both. Sometimes they have some mental conditions.
Holy shit this is like SOO new, never in the history of the world have men failed to procreate or find love and die bitter, miserable lives!
How do we deal with them? Help them? Find out why they suck so bad?
Nah, fuck that, just ostracize them more so they just kill themselves off.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-19
you wanna talk about it fam
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
reddit incel communities are garbage, but if you consider that these guys usually are highly socially isolated and lack probably any positive social or romantic interaction. Their frustration is to be understood, even if going far over board
People like Pao aren't doing anything brave, they are punching down at people who know everyone hates them already. by saying
[of course they are victims, victims of the circumstances which made them so bitter]
[unfounded]
It's just not helping.
Imagine there was a growing online presence of women being frustrated with their lives and whine about it and blame all men and say horrible shit. I am sure people would much rather defend them, then some ugly nerds who can't get laid.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
...and that's a good thing!
Unironically, it is. These communities are cooking up a brand new type of crazy. They're growing and reinforcing. They're developing an ideology and a worldview. They're going to become an entrenched faction.
Incels will be sources of high quality drama for years to come, and it's only going to get more fucked up.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
sure if you just think of it as a drama generator I agree.
But if you care about the world for a second this is just all sorts of bad.
There is obviously something wrong with society if more and more young men turn out this way.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Nothing you or I will ever do can change that. All we can do is look out for our pals and try to enjoy the show.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
we could spread our bussy for the cause.
1 SlavHomero 2018-06-19
Thank you for providing real solutions for real problems.
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
Not enough people do proper bussy maintenance.
1 menvaren 2018-06-19
You are all my pals
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Aw, thanks fella
1 Socksockmaster 2018-06-19
Well, that is a little disingenuous though. Anyone has the power to change anything anyone else could if they cared enough to make the effort. You could become a public speaker, try to reach out to them on their online communities (probably the most likely to work), try to create spaces for them in real life communities.
Nothing you or him or I will ever do will change that, though, because we are all too lazy and we’re just drama whores. But let’s not pretend we’re any less capable of changing things than any other person
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-19
Fair. I just thought "idgaf lmao" sounded too edgy.
But, tbh honest fam, idgaf lmao
1 Socksockmaster 2018-06-19
Same
1 Ylajali_2002 2018-06-19
lmao look at this gaylord right here saying he cares about things
1 DoctorMort 2018-06-19
https://i.redditmedia.com/kX0prQPQoV23mqZFhI_Z1cJw8Lr03uOhIsqB_N4-cmY.png?s=c26a5b86e9721cffb40cf35fb160d019
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
I don't
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-19
Disgruntled young men have always been the basis of any revolutionary movement or any other mass movement.
1 hitlerallyliteral 2018-06-19
gamers rise up
1 Plexipus 2018-06-19
Beta uprising?
1 onlyforytb 2018-06-19
If a bunch of 6' 5'' ugly men decide to revolt, are they still betas? Alpha-ness and attractiveness are not the same.
1 Plexipus 2018-06-19
Incelness is a state of mind, not a state of being
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-06-19
Not "You have nothing to lose but your virginity"
Missed chance tbh
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
a
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-19
(((something))) wrong with society
1 Somenakedguy 2018-06-19
So let's just euthanize them and society will be all the better for it
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-19
Imagine caring about the world
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
Incel communities are basically ISIS but for white men. Punching them while they are down is a good thing.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
if you unironically believe this you are beyond retarded.
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
Extremist ✅
Hate women ✅
Want to legalize rape ✅
Want to kill anyone who do not follow their ideas ✅
Want women as slaves ✅
Terrorism ✅
Hate the non believer (normies) ✅
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
the difference is, one group is shitposting online while the other actually does all those things.
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
There was an incel terrorist attack tho.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
Yeah one guy drove a car into people.
If that shit is as common as isis terror, maybe
1 Rica_Patin 2018-06-19
It only takes one person to make other crazies feel they can do it as well. You live under a rock.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
Yeah, there are definitely a couple of red flags that make me think this might hackshually become a real "terrorist movement". Precedent of an attack, echo/recruitment chambers, a sort-of homogeneized ideology and lingo, a "martyr" and Scripture in the form of Elliot Rodger and his crazy-ass Manifesto.
1 Rica_Patin 2018-06-19
Love all the incels down voting me. Sorry the truth makes you uncomfortable you sadistic scumfucks.
1 Brodo00095 2018-06-19
What are you talking about? Eastern Turkey, southern Georgia, and all of Armenia are under incel control RIGHT NOW
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
Not to mention the numerous genocides perpetrated against normie breeders throughout history.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-19
Smh all these Stacy goats fucking Chad fighters
1 Etsuko1 2018-06-19
tbh I've never seen a ISIS extremist nail his dick to a board
1 d-amazo 2018-06-19
lol if you're terrified of an incel you're a pussy and should be kept safe
1 watermark02 2018-06-19
I hate incels for the same reason I hate white supremacists - it is one thing to see something horrifying that's totally different than you, it's much worse to see something horrifying that bears some resemblance to you. It's like the feeling of embarrasment you feel when a stupid monkey does something humanlike. I'm sure a lot of Muslims feel the same way about ISIS.
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
I feel that way about all Muslims
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-19
You say that but..
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-overview-2.png
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=1012&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=A1spW7_MLaHv5gLNs4WYBQ&q=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&oq=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&gs_l=img.3...27092.35305.0.35440.33.31.0.2.2.0.186.2940.3j22.25.0....0...1c.1.64.img..6.9.810...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i24k1.0.ZrfIC6ZHx8k#imgrc=AnO3DOHGnsfLfM:
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=1012&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=A1spW7_MLaHv5gLNs4WYBQ&q=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&oq=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&gs_l=img.3...27092.35305.0.35440.33.31.0.2.2.0.186.2940.3j22.25.0....0...1c.1.64.img..6.9.810...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i24k1.0.ZrfIC6ZHx8k#imgrc=HbGbhXp5GXLkPM:
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=1012&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=A1spW7_MLaHv5gLNs4WYBQ&q=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&oq=pew+muslims+support+fundamenalism&gs_l=img.3...27092.35305.0.35440.33.31.0.2.2.0.186.2940.3j22.25.0....0...1c.1.64.img..6.9.810...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i24k1.0.ZrfIC6ZHx8k#imgrc=noxeD-XicD5UXM:
1 roguej2 2018-06-19
Muslims support law based on the Koran!? What a break through... that’s kind of how ISIS is able to recruit. They manipulate those nagging doubts that many Muslims have when they see the rest of the world not following their rules.
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-19
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-19
I can see why you're so threatened, if white supremacists get their way, where will you find a bull to cuck you?
1 uTorrent 2018-06-19
The recent incel survey had them at 60% minorities, both incel shootings were done by minorities, not really fair to call them white supremacists
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
There was 2 incel shootings?
Because el goblino cruz and the radical Cthulu centrist both had girlfriends, thus not incels.
1 uTorrent 2018-06-19
the original, Elliot Rodger and Toronto boy
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
1 uTorrent 2018-06-19
https://i.redd.it/q49ugzb8q8y01.jpg
I apologize, they are about 50/50 white and minority
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
As I said,
1 Feanorfanclub 2018-06-19
Right. It's slightly different but if you've ever seen a selfie thread on /r9k/ like maybe a third of them actually pass the paper bag test.
1 concrete_manu 2018-06-19
This is just blatantly untrue, you have no idea what you're talking about. The Reddit incel community is pretty racially aware and is relatively diverse
1 error404brain 2018-06-19
>Imagien caring about incels race.
1 kwawy 2018-06-19
currycels and ricecels have different issues than mayocels dude
Denying this erases the struggles of minoritycels and goes against the spirit of incelsectionality.
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
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1 concrete_manu 2018-06-19
Great deflection retard
1 Ylajali_2002 2018-06-19
Not to seriouspost but it seems like progressives have for so long tried to celebrate the noble suffering of minorities and valorize their victimhood that it's just inconceivable to them that someone could be both a victim and a deeply ugly person.
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-19
There already is a place for femcels: r/gendercritical
1 selectrix 2018-06-19
"It's society's fault I'm a failure waaah"
It genuinely sucks that these people didn't have an authority figure in their lives to knock that shit out of their heads, sure, but once you're an adult its your own responsibility to get help for whatever crazy you've got going on, regardless of who was responsible for putting it three in the first place.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
Circumstances doesn't mean just society. Genetics, parents and location as well as economics play a role here
1 lua_x_ia 2018-06-19
They're not socially isolated. They have various shitty hugbox forums that reinforce and exacerbate their perversity. Back when they were socially isolated, there was no incel menace. It's groupthink that created what we now call incels.
1 saddertadder 2018-06-19
Unfortunately, I do know someone who has no legs. both legs, gone.
you think any girl wants to get with him? even a brap hog? fuck it sucks.
But, most incels IMO are just neckbeards x2 that CAN get girls if they lost they weight or didnt literally have internet meme personalities, IRL. aka, they cant flirt or talk about normal hobbies outside of capeshit/vidya.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
that is true but something lead up to them turning out this way as opposed to "normal" guys.
Whatever the conditions are which produce people like that should be changed.
1 AwanBros 2018-06-19
Pao's blind spot is that she isn't a Stacey by any means, and has only dreamed of romantically being with Chads. She doesn't care how many Chads and Staceys the violent incel takes out when they go postal.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
chads fuck anything. even 5 and below women can fuck chads. the male sex drive is constant, thirsty, and it knows no standards.
this chick looks like a somewhat in shape girl with face that isn't hideous, she has fucked chads and has access to them whenever she pleases.
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
This is unironically our best strategy.
1 80BAIT08 2018-06-19
bully incels
Incels shoot schools up
white genocide
Israel increases funding in US HAPA breeding programs
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
Sounds good but not enough strictly inforced mandatory mtf transition treatments for people who are found to be incels, violent criminals and mentally ill.
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-06-19
White genocide is a lie. If you cannot get laid, it is your own fault. All incels....are volcels. Nobody is keeping you from getting laid but yourself. Stop dousing yourself in Axe body spray and go to the gym. Join a book club or something. Go outside and get a hobby other than Ocarina of Time speedrunning!
1 carthoris26 2018-06-19
We're talking about incels not trannies.
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
Or rape a woman, be the change you want to see.
1 ztwizzle 2018-06-19
tell me about it, at least speedrun a game that runs at 60 so your "frame-perfect" tricks are actually impressive
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
Most incels aren’t white and say the exact opposite of white genocide is happening, that women only want white chads and nobody else.
1 heldex 2018-06-19
This. THIS X 900000 !
1 BigBrownDog12 2018-06-19
They targeted Incels
1 Osterion 2018-06-19
Lol they can't be helped. They don't even want to be helped. They prefer to wallow in misery.
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
All the help they're getting comes from a shitty impersonal source. Would you take dating advice from some dad bod redditor who is patting himself on the back for landing some small fat? They need a personal friend's help, or a rope.
1 d-amazo 2018-06-19
lol you think an incel is going to accept help from anyone
and here's the problem, incels think they deserve hot models when they barely deserve a "small fat"
1 Nopepole 2018-06-19
https://i.imgur.com/L8TncJp.jpg
Most incels have little to no standards, going so far as to fuck men, FtM transexuals, animals, dead chickens, etc.
I honestly don't know where the fuck this "lel incels only want models" meme came from. Even if it were true what happened to that "being attracted to attractive people isn't s crime" shit? Also I feel as though incel hunters think any woman with bmi 28< is super model?
The problem with incels is all rooted in their self esteem and only positive experiences in real life from real people, not faggots on the second gayest website on the planet, will fix that.
1 shallowm 2018-06-19
Why would they go for FtMs instead of MtFs (assuming they can)?
1 Liptusg 2018-06-19
Probably because nobody winds up there unless they've already had a lifetime of fallacies and shitty advice that did not personally help them, and so no new insights are being provided.
Unless of course, your help comes in the form of a woman seeking a relationship, and you're willing to play match maker. Because THAT will help, for sure. And that's why it's never offered.
1 COMMUNIST_WARRIOR 2018-06-19
Male virgins are failures by definitions. Getting laid is something literally 99% of the population has done by age 25.
Incels deserve to be bullied.
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
That statistic doesn’t take into account prostitution. Even if it did, guys wouldn’t admit to it because it would be confessing to a felony, so they would instead say they lost their virginity without paying.
Girls only want chad.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
people who post that study don't understand how science works. this tells us that women rate 80% of men as below average, ok, but WHY?
is it because a large chunk of female sexuality is not visual, and actually mental/emotional? possibly. is it because men on dating sites are just ugly as fuck? that's possible , chad's can get laid in a bar or a party, they don't need gay sites like okcupid. i feel like tinder is more of a chad app, there are probably more hot dudes on tinder.
also, that study showed that women messaged men who they thought were below average, lots of the time. men on the other hand, only messaged stacy.
if anything, that study showed that women don't go by looks alone, something else makes them message men, but men all go for looks.
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
WRONG.
WRONG AGAIN.
If you aren’t chad, you’re a cuck, they’re programmed to only want chad, they can’t even cum unless it’s chad. It’s over normie.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
then, i must be a chad cause my ex used to cum all the time, and so did the one girl i fucked since we broke up.
well that's good news.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
also, that sub is just one big cirlce jerk lol. a guy in that comments started pointing out some flaws in the theory of the guy that posted the study, and the guy, who is a mod, fucking banned him.
an incel black pill sub is not going to be a place to get a very good view of reality. i've personally seen quite a few studies showing personality traits influencing attractiveness to a high degree, yet that sub would never post those studies, only cherry picking studies that say "GIRLS ONLY WANT CHAD".
this is like comparing the kind of nutrition information you'd get from a dietician, to a vegan blog that cherry picks studies and misrepresents the data to prove that veganism is the healthiest diet.
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
That guy was banned because he was missing the point of the post.
The black pill IS reality. You don’t even need scientific evidence to see it, just open your eyes and LOOK AROUND. A vegan will say veganism is healthy, but if you LOOK AROUND, you se all the vegans look like zombies. The black pill says girls only want chad, and if you LOOK AROUND, you see that girls only go for the fucking models.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
but i don't see guys only go for chads. i got a gf who was hot as fuck when i was scrawny. i see skinny lookin nerd dudes who i don't even think are hot at all walking around with girls i'd kill to bang.
also, the guy my hot ex was swooning over after she dumped me, was shorter than me, had a less masculine fact than me, wore glasses and looked kinda like a dweeb. she just kept talking about this smile and how nice he was.
girls don't only go for chad, but i won't like, chad gets more pussy, but fact is they don't ONLY go for chad. shit, all the dudes in school who got laid the most were short dudes with cute faces, they were just outgoing as fuck.
idk man, i never even heard this "girls only fuck the top 20%" myth till i went on reddit, and it contradicted everything i've seen in actual reality.
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
Well you better get ready, cus girls only wanting chad is quickly becoming a mainstream concept. You’ll see 80% of your sons wracked with mistrust of women, unable to have a fulfilling sexual relationship with any on them. You’ll watch them develop a general apathy towards life because they can’t find a partner. You’ll ask them if they’ve met any nice girls, and they’ll say like it’s the most obvious thing ever, “dad, girls only want chads, it’s over”. Prepare yourselves, it’s happening NOW.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
but according to your logic, i'm a chad myself, since i do in fact date attractive women. so wouldn't i just end up breeding with a stacy and have kids with chad genes then?
1 antimorphoid 2018-06-19
That doesn’t really prove anything, unattractive guys have girls, some of which are very hot, date them, fake orgasms, and tell them they’re attractive. If you can go to a club and pick up any girls you want WITHOUT looking wealthy, that would prove it. That’s what a chad can do.
But even if you are that hot, genetic recombination ensures that there will still be more normie males than attractive ones.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
i love how incel logic changes constantly to the point where it doesn't make sense.
"GIRLS ONLY WANT CHAD"
"but i've had hot girlfriends, am i chad then?"
"NO BECAUSE ROASTIES DATE NORMIE NON CHAD GUYS AND CUCK THEM"
"oh so they don't only date chads? regular guys can get hot girls?"
"NO THEY ONLY DATE CHAD, IT'S OVER"
"uhhh"
seriously, why don't you go date a hot roastie and just let her cuck you? it's better than not getting laid, you only care if the girl is cheating if you actually love her, i don't love any girls i date, loving women is for faggots, i just want the pussy, and it's easier to get constant and consistent sex if you're in a relationship with a hot girl, one night stands are much harder.
1 supadik 2018-06-19
This but unironically.
1 lickedTators 2018-06-19
This is new. They used to do things like study gravity or create calculus. Now they're just sad school shooters.
1 Liptusg 2018-06-19
"Hey Brutus, backed in the good old days, slaves used to build monuments and water the gardens, now they're all just a bunch of sad, hate-filled murderous mobs roaming the countryside"
"Gee Claudius, how un-progressive! Don't they know that being useful to society is the only thing they ought to care about?"
1 Inceliaco 2018-06-19
I don't see millions of schoolshooters
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-19
most really smart eccentric geniuses were awkward virgins, but most awkward virgins were not eccentric geniuses. most of them were probably just ugly lower class losers.
1 Richard_Smellington 2018-06-19
And shoot up a school or two on the way out. Then whine about guns, because nobody wants to take responsibility.
1 selectrix 2018-06-19
Well that used to work fine until the internet allowed then to find each other without leaving their homes. Believe me it'd be nice if we could stop that from happening.
Imagine thinking there's a lack of availability for psychological/social counseling in 2018.
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
The problem is just that there's no such thing as a "psychological" cure for being a loser.
1 selectrix 2018-06-19
Isn't there though? I feel like being a loser is more or less a psychological state itself; plenty of ugly/fat/otherwise physically disadvantaged people manage to find ways to contribute something worthwhile to society and avoid feeling like losers as a result.
1 the_leander 2018-06-19
Sounds like learned helplessness. And the cure for that is long and difficult, assuming that they want to get out of the mindset to begin with, which having these sorts of communities doesn't help at all.
The biggest issue you're going to face is that these communities are up and running. Simply stamping them out won't help, it'll just cause them to pop up someplace else that's harder to zap and cause people within it to further isolate themselves. Idiots like Pao don't help matters either since they can now point to relatively powerful and influential people actively trying to hurt them now.
1 solowng 2018-06-19
IMO there is and there isn't, as little sense as that may make. I work for a grubhub clone in a college town and you probably wouldn't be shocked to hear that it's staffed and run A. almost entirely by men and B. frequently staffed by the socially inept/mentally ill, to the point that we have to fire otherwise competent people because they're so utterly toxic. Of the two most recent, one is an incel and possibl
1 solowng 2018-06-19
IMO there is and there isn't, as little sense as that may make. Fitting in with a particular community or being good at a particular, say, professional niche does not translate to being good with women. That may as well be another world and if there was an actually good answer the red pill wouldn't have an audience, kind of like how AA and 12 step programs like it are still the default for addiction in spite of having a lousy success rate and being pseudoscience at best because we've yet to discover a genuinely better alternative.
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
It doesn't even translate into avoiding incel forums. Literally we're commenting on an article about incels who work in tech companies making big money doing well-respected work.
1 selectrix 2018-06-19
> Fitting in with a particular community or being good at a particular, say, professional niche does not translate to being good with women.
Right, and I feel like that's an important distinction to look at, because people who fit that description probably don't think of themselves as "losers" in most senses of the word, but may still end up identifying as incels if they get frustrated enough. So clearly "incel" isn't completely included within the category of "losers", and as such the different conditions probably require fundamentally different approaches. Perhaps there's more of an element of narcissism present in the incel complex?
Regardless, my incredibly optimistic hope is that the amount of attention they're getting leads to an increased awareness of their presence and the situations that create them, and some non-trivial effort to reduce the latter.
1 solowng 2018-06-19
I think so. I mean, there's a ton of people who check varying numbers of incel boxes, myself included, but speaking for myself I've rarely been bothered to care about that. I mean, I know that what I've wanted has exceeded what I've had to offer so I've procrastinated/tried to improve until the two are at least on the same planet. I may never find what I want in a romantic relationship but I'm okay with that and surveying those who have them they either have tons to offer or have been very willing to compromise, save for my dad who IMO legitimately hit the online dating lottery. I've had an unwanted woman be obsessed with/stalk me and been in unrequited love with a woman. The latter situation made me an emotional retard for a few months but eventually we got through it and we're good friends now.
As dumb as it sounds I just want someone to experience and complain about life with, lol. I also used to be a fatty and personally it was disillusioning how going from 240lbs to 170lbs (@6'1) did absolutely nothing for my internal self-image or social skills.
1 selectrix 2018-06-19
Right? For me it happened right before high school, and it was frustrating feeling as though I just couldn't measure up to what my classmates were up to socially. I was lucky to have a few good friends who helped make me feel like a normal person and made some great memories along the way.
1 MelissaClick 2018-06-19
Nope.
1 Orsonius 2018-06-19
The issue is there is a general questionable attitude towards sexual prowess in society and lots of status competition and shitty masculinity memes. They all contribute to the issue
1 NecessaryPiglet 2018-06-19
The world doesn't care about "incels". Sure, there have always been virgin white guys that take their frustrations out on society, but seeing negareddit types and Pao wring their hands about a 30k strong group of sad dudes whose only characteristic is not having sex reflects more poorly on them than the incels.
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-19
Too slow, not fast enough. Now if I get my 9mm, then we might speed things up.
1 respaaaaaj 2018-06-19
Thats my reddit CEO!
1 _MAGAMEMNON_ 2018-06-19
Ellen Pao is butt ugly and she really ought to be an incel
1 princeofnumuria 2018-06-19
She's Asian which gives her a +2.
Anyway, she's the hero we deserve not the hero we want and someone has to take charge of the incelcide.
1 Liptusg 2018-06-19
Kind of meaningless when you consider the +9999999999999999999 from being a woman.
1 princeofnumuria 2018-06-19
Males get -2 for being Asian unless they're called Bruce Lee and died in 1973.
1 thats-why-i 2018-06-19
If you don't do incel shit you shouldn't care
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
I'm on /r/Drama right now, and so are you....
1 thats-why-i 2018-06-19
radical centrism != incel terrorism
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-19
The irony of Ellen Pao, the quintessential female incel, leading the charge against tech incels.
1 redditor080917 2018-06-19
females can't be incel
fuck off normie
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-19
You haven't met my wife!!
1 redditor080917 2018-06-19
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
1 CHADCYBERBULLY 2018-06-19
Come on over Terry! We're firing up the grill! Bring Tasha and that sweet little ass of hers.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-19
have you seen ellens face
1 poliwrath3 2018-06-19
there's always a new boogeyman
1 cruelandusual 2018-06-19
For a woman married to a gay man, she's awfully angry at people who aren't having sex. Projection?
1 Raven0520 2018-06-19
Did he ever get convicted of scamming those investors out of millions of dollars?
1 ObnoxiousFactczecher 2018-06-19
Every time period apparently needs a category of people that is acceptable to hate.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-06-19
Who would have thunk people who spend hours doing shit on the computer would be bad with women
1 aqouta 2018-06-19
Imagine actually listing HR experience as a requirement for development work 😂😂😂 the actual state of these companies.
1 telandrias 2018-06-19
1 PizzaHoe696969 2018-06-19
How is this dumb cunt still employable?
1 dramallllama 2018-06-19
I’m with Pao, time to round up all the (((incels)))
1 wow___justwow 2018-06-19
I seamlessly move from /r/drama to /r/subredditdrama, feeding on hate.
1 KingNothing305 2018-06-19
People like her need an enemy real or make believe.
1 double-happiness 2018-06-19
The most diverse and inclusive cultures in history all thrived on banning beliefs, of course.
1 Gtyyler 2018-06-19
I dont care if there is an incel purge. Does anyone remember when the mods of r/4chan wrote fanfiction where Ellen Pao fucked them? I want to read it again for the lols.
1 rasungod0 2018-06-19
Is she volunteering to make them not Incel anymore?
1 OceanPoultry 2018-06-19
I think Ellen hates incels because someone she thought was one turned down her sexual advances
1 Re_LE_Vant_UN 2018-06-19
She looks like a horse and a man combined. At least Sarah Jessica Parker looks like a female horse.
There's no way she's had a halfway decent dick anywhere near that snatch.
1 edc_svr_wxf_qaz 2018-06-19
Didn't she become irrelevant after reddit got butthurt when she started banning the fatpeoplehate subreddits or something?
1 libelecsBlackWolf 2018-06-19
I can only think of /u/Mcmillanandhusband's thread and this post from Dr NerdLove
Boy, it's going to be a delight watching those milquetoast soyboys who bought into the inclusive software culture get side tracked hard and maybe sent to prison, or get ostracised.
Can't wait.
1 itsnotmyfault 2018-06-19
I truly can't wait.
Can you imagine the ludicrously high quality FOSS that these nerds will be making when they get fired from Google and instead angrily code all day at home?
Jesus Christ, I just realized I should be thanking Pao for bringing on the next tech boom. There's gonna be hologram catgirls dancing on my desk by 2022.
1 mrSFWdotcom 2018-06-19
Ellen Pao is awful and she was so bad in Star Wars idk what Finn saw in her.
1 AggressionSsb 2018-06-19
Ellen Pao looks like an incel lmao. She's so fucking ugly.
1 FaAlt 2018-06-19
You mean to tell me silicon valley has nerdy virgin males that aren't getting any? Color me shocked.
1 Liptusg 2018-06-19
Hey Ellen, I figured out a Final Solution to your Incel Problem. If you're so bothered by their presence in tech companies, then fuck them, they would no longer be incels, and you'll no longer have incels in tech companies.
Where's my reward?
1 TherapyFortheRapy 2018-06-19
Incels are gross, but the moral panic surrounding them is going to backfire in horrific ways.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-06-19
INCELS OUT OUT OUT 👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉👉
1 -Steve_French- 2018-06-19
Opol
1 ReBurnInator 2018-06-19
She's just mad that incels can keep a tech job but she can't, despite all the sex she's having.
1 battles 2018-06-19
hahaahhaahahahahah
I can assure everyone, absolutely no empathy is required to 'run this stuff.'