he didn't, it is, and Sessions taking it into zero tolerance last month is an undeniably good thing.
No, it's not. Locking children in camps and arresting people that are simply searching for a better life is cruel, not required, and makes no logical sense.
Better yet, if this is a good thing, why has Trump tried to lie about the law 5 different times?
name one place on earth where you can commit a crime, get caught, and keep your kids with you while you're detained?
No other western country on the planet does what the Trump admin is doing. Not fucking one.
i mean I know since you're a volcel when it comes to women you have a vested interest in the continued trafficking of young mexican bussy into the US so you can get some, but cmon man
It's actually hilarious how dumb you guys are. Like there's no immigration crisis in this country. It's a smokescreen being used by rich people to bamboozle morons like you into blindness while they rob the country blind.
Better yet, if this is a good thing, why has Trump tried to lie about the law 5 different times?
lol like i'd bother with your spin on the issue
No other western country on the planet does what the Trump admin is doing. Not fucking one.
Wrong. If I tried to illegally enter Mexico from some shithole South American country with my family they would do worse, with impunity, and we would not be kept together.
If I commit a crime in my gay old leafland as a parent, do my kids come into my jail cell with me? No.
It's actually hilarious how dumb you guys are. Like there's no immigration crisis in this country. It's a smokescreen being used by rich people to bamboozle morons like you into blindness while they rob the country blind.
fucking lol dude if this was true why would there be so many illegals in these detention centers, with enough children there for some kike fake news ready to trick you into thinking you care, just so they have another doomed "fuckdumpf" story of the month to run into the ground?
How is that a spin? He's tried to lie about it multiple times.
Why did he try to lie about it if it was good?
Wrong. If I tried to illegally enter Mexico from some shithole South American country with my family they would do worse, with impunity, and we would not be kept together.
"What the US is doing now, there is no equivalent," said Michael Flynn, executive director of the Geneva-based Global Detention Project, a non-profit group focused on the rights of detained immigrants. "There's nothing like this anywhere".
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fucking lol dude if this was true why would there be so many illegals in these detention centers, with enough children there for some kike fake news ready to trick you into thinking you care, just so they have another doomed "fuckdumpf" story of the month to run into the ground?
Is this even English?
Russia, Stormy, now this. It's not gonna work, and it's frankly sad to see you latch onto this, when you clearly have some understanding of how cringe the left can be.
Can you explain why Trump tried to lie about this policy multiple times if it's a good thing?
according to /u/pizzashill, despite it's location in the western hemisphere, being part of NAFTA, bordering the United States of America, Mexico doesn't qualify as a western country... why?
surely some other reason besides that it's filled with retarded smelly shitskins lazy enough to be taken over entirely by drug cartels?
What's funny is you've actually bought into all the propaganda hook, line, and sinker and have managed to convince yourself that actually everyone else is a sheep. LOL.
Being this unironically dumb. Yikes. That's what happens when you get your opinions distilled through the other assorted teenagers and burn outs. At least the people in Trump's administration are getting paid or building their careers. You guys doing it for free have sub 100 IQ. Literally no exceptions.
LOL you just wasted so much time defending this (not because you're smart enough to have an opinion, because that's what you were told) and he literally just undid it. LOL. But I'm sure you're used to looking stupid by now. Carry on.
lol explaining how the outrage over the issue is totally fabricated into the latest "fuckdrumpf takedown" is not the same as going "yeah FUCK those little spic kids we orphan-makers now!!"
15 years ago your ideological cohort was sperging out on little green footballs about the genius tier invasion of Iraq and buying Iraqi dinars. Where do you see your ideological cohort 15 years from now?
A bunch of idiots cheering on the disastrous policies of an intellectually limited trust fund baby draft dodging Republican while labeling criticism of Dear Leader as X Derangement Syndrome isn't your ideological cohort?
it happens with every other law that deals with criminal offenses, why is this one exempt?
Can you copy paste where in this law it requires the separation of children from families?
remember this photo?
Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you're claiming it does.
The photo in question is from 2014, and it was in relation to a detention center, but not one that removed children from families.
So either you really are this retarded, this gullible, or you know you're wrong and you're actually using misinformation in an effort to convince other gullible rubes.
The things you're saying have no basis in reality. There is no law requiring the separation of children from families. No other administration did this.
second, name any law that specifies the separation of children from a criminal family member (that isn't somehow related to child abuse).
guess what? it happens anyway, because fucking DUH if a parent goes to jail the child is still free, maybe they become a ward of the state or something, but they're not kept with the parent for their detention.
lol i envy you, though I guess I got to experience the same thing 3 days ago or whatever. probably not as close to it actually happening as you are though
means a lot of things to a lot of people. which definition are you using, since there are many different breakdowns. you could cite Huntington, or perhaps that dickweed Ed Said. then there's de Chardin, or Toynbee, or you could divert completely and go with a socio-religious definition, or one based on colonizing powers.
Mexico is definitely more of a Western nation than, say, Myanmar. And nations like China have become more Western than they have been in the past, but then again they had to do something after the shit the Qing got them into.
so you see, not exactly a mong question really. and hey, the beaners ain't gonna jump ship for the chinks anytime soon anyway, nor the towelheads, nor the savages in africa. #GringoYPuto4Lyfe !!!
So to be clear here, when you see people use the term "western country" and when you use the term "western country" you unironically believe Mexico is part of that?
I've traveled quite a bit, especially around the "Western World" - including most nations in the EU, Aus, Canada, etc. And I've been to Mexico a few times too.
Mexico is not a "Western" nation, don't a be a fucking retard.
Because it's fucking Mexico you retard. There isn't one definitive definition of what makes a "Western" country. But most include a certain level of development and a certain sort of values. Actual geographic location is generally fairly irrelevant, on the other hand. Australia doesn't fulfill any of your conditions, for example.
i'm mixed on him, and Trump has thrown some shade but he can fire the guy whenever he wants, so something tells me that those disagreements are nothing but smoke and mirrors that marks like yourself get taken in by
"Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section... "
The majority of them aren't breaking laws though. It's just a scummy way to keep all asylum seekers out instead of filtering out the people lying to get in.
Oh yeah, Snopes. Definite arbiters of truth. See this article where they conveniently omitted that the law passed 90-9 in the Senate and only focused on the house.
Find a better source that didn't literally yesterday omit facts to support their narrative.
That aside, I said nothing about Democrats doing anything. The Flores Settlement makes it illegal to keep children with adults:
The Flores Settlement Agreement (Flores) imposed several obligations on the immigration authorities, which fall into three broad categories:
The government is required to release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to, in order of preference, parents, other adult relatives, or licensed programs willing to accept custody.
If a suitable placement is not immediately available, the government is obligated to place children in the “least restrictive” setting appropriate to their age and any special needs.
The government must implement standards relating to the care and treatment of children in immigration detention.
Oh yeah, Snopes. Definite arbiters of truth. See this article where they conveniently omitted that the law passed 90-9 in the Senate and only focused on the house.
What in the actual fuck?
You just linked the law that established the department of homeland security. Why would that law be relevant to this?
Please read the entirety of the linked Snopes article before replying next time. Start with the second paragraph of the Snopes article I linked (starting with "One versions of that rumor" [sic]), and note whether they ever mention the 40 Democrat Senators that voted for the bill (8 Democrats and 1 independent make up the 9 nays). Of course they don't, because it's inconvenient. To me, that discredits them. I shouldn't have to double check a website that smugly claims to "battle against misinformation" on every article. It is textbook "misinformation" to omit inconvenient facts. 49 Republican and 40 Democrat Senators voting in favor of a bill is about as bi-partisan as one can hope, and while it did pass with significantly more more Republican voters in the house (207), 88 Democrat ayes is not nothing.
I don't really care about this other shit, but I don't trust Snopes not to omit facts that are inconvenient to whatever narrative they're pushing because they literally did just that yesterday.
lol pizza I know you might have been to young to remember, but when you were 2 years old your real mom and dad were arrested for meth-whoring, and they took you away from them into the molestation factory you grew up in.
Being a mayo leftist is one thing, but there is something so utterly pathetic about being a mayo leftist in denial. Admit it and own it pizzashill! Or come to the center where you belong.
Probably new reddit not carrying it over. Imagine being so overly emotional that you block another user. He should have to go back to the traphouse imo
implying that the simple changing of that one letter isn't top tier bants, especially when the left butchers words well beyond that to try and burn Republicans
This manufactured media hype the last few days is all about pushing this “bi partisan” legislation through, comprised of a coalition of pro-cheap wage slave rinos and open-borders ‘we need new voters’ demonrats, I’m sure the legislation will have the American people in mind. Hopefully daddy blocky if bad! Sad
Arresting people crossing the border illegally is perfectly reasonable but we lost the propaganda war to the fake news on this one. That's fine. Win some, lose some. I think cutting our losses on this is the best play since perceptions have basically spiraled out of control.
Lied about what? Trump is on both sides of every issue. It's how he operates/negotiates. If you mean why did he say its up to the Democrats to change the border policy, that is not a lie. It's simply that the media chooses to interpret everything he says in the way most likely to paint him as wrong. It's necessary to arrest people at the border because our immigration system is intolerable. Given that, it is in the hands of democrats to vote for meaningful reform so that arresting people crossing the border won't be a thing. Also, it is in fact required by law that if you arrest people, you can't house them with their children. It is also a fact that illegal immigrants were arrested under the Obama administration if they had been previously deported. That also created "family separation". This is not a completely new policy, it's just more aggressive.
claimed he had to do this because it was a democratic law.
Claimed he couldn't do anything about it.
Tried to claim this wasn't his doing:
“We have the worst immigration laws in the entire world. Nobody has such sad, such bad and, actually, in many cases, such horrible and tough — you see about child separation, you see what’s going on there.”
tried to lie and claim a court ruling made him do it:
“Because of the Flores consent decree and a 9th Circuit Court decision, ICE can only keep families detained together for a very short period of time.”
Lied about the policy even existing:
“We do not have a policy of separating families at the border. Period.”
If you mean why did he say its up to the Democrats to change the border policy, that is not a lie. It's simply that the media chooses to interpret everything he says in the way most likely to paint him as wrong.
How the fuck is it up to the democrats to change a Trump admin specific policy he's in complete control of?
You realize this was a direction action by himself and Sessions, right?
's necessary to arrest people at the border because our immigration system is intolerable.
Lol? How is our immigration system intolerable? Why are you so gullible as to believe there's any immigration crisis in this country? You understand it's a wedge issue the GOP came up with to bamboozle people like you, right?
It is also a fact that illegal immigrants were arrested under the Obama administration if they had been previously deported. That also created "family separation". This is not a completely new policy, it's just more aggressive.
You clearly don't even read the gish gallop bullshit links you post. For instance, in the politifact link, it's filled to the brim with weasel words.
| generally refrained from
| "occasionally" saw separated families
| such separations occurred in rare cases
The bottom line is that everything in that piece says I am right, this did happen under Obama, though not uniformly which I never claimed, but still in the end they grasp at mind reading techniques ( that family separation is the goal and not a consequence of arrests ) and claim it's False. It's classic fake news in action.
No one is lying about an arrest policy existing. However, there is no policy of "family separation". That is a ridiculous far-left spin. There is a policy of arresting people who cross the border illegally. Family separation is a consequence of that. That is a key distinction. It's like saying that the criminal justice system has a policy of letting accused rapists go free when in reality the system has a policy of requiring evidence to put people in jail. Maybe the feminists have gotten to you.
It is also 100% true that a 9th circuit decision makes it impossible to keep children with jailed parents. You just don't even understand what you are posting because you don't fucking read it.
Whether of not the immigration problem is intolerable is of course a matter of opinion. I think you will find that most Trump supporters agree, though.
This is wild. I've never seen delusion of this caliber, the fact you're still repeating this shit is insane.
Even when confronted about irrefutable proof that Trump lied you'll still just keep digging it.
Cults are hilarious.
It is also 100% true that a 9th circuit decision makes it impossible to keep children with jailed parents. You just don't even understand what you are posting because you don't fucking read it.
Your problem is that you are stupid and can't read good. No other admin implemented mandatory arrests at the border. The point of the federal decision is that if you arrest people, you can't house them with their kids. I know, its a nuance and you aren't good at that, but I am putting it out there again for others to read.
The other thing I don't know what you are talking about. I refuted everything you said and now you repeating things like some sort of deranged toddler. Tell me what you want. Use your words little guy. Do you want some bussy?
This is actually one of the most insane things I've ever seen in my life.
Trump admin puts into place new, aggressive policy that leads to the mass arrest and separation of children from families.
Trump claims this isn't his fault.
How, in your head, is the Trump admin deliberately changing policy not, in fact, his fault?
Better yet, considering you just admitted that this is a Trump admin policy, how then, is it not true, that he lied when he said this was the fault of democrats?
There is no lie. There is far-left spin that won out this time. Everything i have said is consistent. it is the policy that people crossing the border are arrested. No one has denied that. It is also the policy that Target prosecutes shoplifters. If you try to claim that Target has a policy of family separation for shoplifters, that would be a really dishonest spin, wouldn't it?
If Target then says the shoplifter prosecution policy is the fault of < insert anything that they think causes people to shoplift>, you jump up and say FALSE!!! You can stop prosecuting people any time you want!!. Congratulations, you are Dwight from Office Space. Of Target does not mean they can't change their own policy. Just as it's the fault of Democrats that an aggressive policy must be put in place, Trump could choose to do nothing instead of be aggressive. You can disagree that it's democrats fault or that Trump should be aggressive. However, "it's the democrats fault" is still merely a matter of opinion, not a lie. You just choose the overly literal interpretation because you are sick with TDS.
No, because he was referring to the fact that he cannot house children in their parents jail cell, not to the fact that we could stop arresting people. It's again a case of choosing to interpret what he says without any context.
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1 JumbledFun 2018-06-20
Art of the dill in action
1 Leakylocks 2018-06-20
womp womp
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
here's the caveat: most of those kids aren't being brought there with their parents, they're being trafficked.
this is a small concession to those who can prove they're related to the children, and it shuts demonrats up
i'm fine with it
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Little bitch boi Trump backs down.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
nigga did u unblock me?
I win!
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Why did Trump lie and claim this was a democratic law?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
he didn't, it is, and Sessions taking it into zero tolerance last month is an undeniably good thing.
name one place on earth where you can commit a crime, get caught, and keep your kids with you while you're detained?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
No, it's not. Locking children in camps and arresting people that are simply searching for a better life is cruel, not required, and makes no logical sense.
Better yet, if this is a good thing, why has Trump tried to lie about the law 5 different times?
No other western country on the planet does what the Trump admin is doing. Not fucking one.
It's actually hilarious how dumb you guys are. Like there's no immigration crisis in this country. It's a smokescreen being used by rich people to bamboozle morons like you into blindness while they rob the country blind.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol like i'd bother with your spin on the issue
Wrong. If I tried to illegally enter Mexico from some shithole South American country with my family they would do worse, with impunity, and we would not be kept together.
If I commit a crime in my gay old leafland as a parent, do my kids come into my jail cell with me? No.
fucking lol dude if this was true why would there be so many illegals in these detention centers, with enough children there for some kike fake news ready to trick you into thinking you care, just so they have another doomed "fuckdumpf" story of the month to run into the ground?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
How is that a spin? He's tried to lie about it multiple times.
Why did he try to lie about it if it was good?
Not wrong.
A) Mexico isn't a western country.
B) No.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44374756
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Is this even English?
Can you explain why Trump tried to lie about this policy multiple times if it's a good thing?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
LOL what's going on big guy?
according to /u/pizzashill, despite it's location in the western hemisphere, being part of NAFTA, bordering the United States of America, Mexico doesn't qualify as a western country... why?
surely some other reason besides that it's filled with retarded smelly shitskins lazy enough to be taken over entirely by drug cartels?
/u/pizzashill is very tolerant, you see!
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Do you even know what the term "western country means" you mong?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
I know that you put your end quotations too late in this post
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
No, you're just disingenuous as shit. It's why you won't answer the question "Why did Trump lie about this multiple times if it's good?"
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
unironically if he said the sky is blue you would call him a liar
you have lost all credibility on the subject of Trump: truth or lie, and it happened a while ago.
1 SluttyCatholicGirl 2018-06-20
What's funny is you've actually bought into all the propaganda hook, line, and sinker and have managed to convince yourself that actually everyone else is a sheep. LOL.
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1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
holy christ the irony
your side owns the propaganda factories and blasts it non-stop in everyone's face.
the reason people think like me is because you guys overdid it.
1 SluttyCatholicGirl 2018-06-20
Being this unironically dumb. Yikes. That's what happens when you get your opinions distilled through the other assorted teenagers and burn outs. At least the people in Trump's administration are getting paid or building their careers. You guys doing it for free have sub 100 IQ. Literally no exceptions.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
imagine being this blind
1 SluttyCatholicGirl 2018-06-20
BTFO LOL
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
this but unironically
tbh I think you're a deep cover troll who's serving my interests. keep it up!
1 SluttyCatholicGirl 2018-06-20
LOL TRUMP JUST SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER TO END THE POLICY.
LITERALLY BTFO LOL.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
please explain how this is a negative to any Trump supporter
he did something nice that Obama didn't do after 8 years in office, and now you have nothing to fake whine about anymore.
And like i've said before, most of these kids are still being separated... from the non-related child trafficker who brought them there.
1 SluttyCatholicGirl 2018-06-20
LOL you just wasted so much time defending this (not because you're smart enough to have an opinion, because that's what you were told) and he literally just undid it. LOL. But I'm sure you're used to looking stupid by now. Carry on.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol explaining how the outrage over the issue is totally fabricated into the latest "fuckdrumpf takedown" is not the same as going "yeah FUCK those little spic kids we orphan-makers now!!"
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-06-20
15 years ago your ideological cohort was sperging out on little green footballs about the genius tier invasion of Iraq and buying Iraqi dinars. Where do you see your ideological cohort 15 years from now?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol
no
kike
1 LadyVetinari 2018-06-20
Haha slur haha
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
said the
walkingwaddling slur1 LadyVetinari 2018-06-20
Haha
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-06-20
A bunch of idiots cheering on the disastrous policies of an intellectually limited trust fund baby draft dodging Republican while labeling criticism of Dear Leader as X Derangement Syndrome isn't your ideological cohort?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
no because that was a globalist kike plot for white genocide and preventing that is the goal of me and my ilk
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-06-20
Lol, they didn't think they were morons and they also said faggy things like "ilk."
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
He claimed this was happening because of a democratic law.
Is that true or false?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
https://i.redd.it/f9dkyu85uz411.jpg
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Ok, can you please link me the democratic law that made Trump do this?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11515132/iirira-clinton-immigration
ugh, vox
put up before all this fake-ass hysteria started, though
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Can you copy paste where in this law is talks about the separation of children from families?
There's no way you're this illiterate. Do you unironically believe anywhere in that law it requires the separation of children from families?
Explain why no other administration did this, not even Trump before recently.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
it happens with every other law that deals with criminal offenses, why is this one exempt?
remember this photo?
you should, I just linked it.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Can you copy paste where in this law it requires the separation of children from families?
Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you're claiming it does.
The photo in question is from 2014, and it was in relation to a detention center, but not one that removed children from families.
So either you really are this retarded, this gullible, or you know you're wrong and you're actually using misinformation in an effort to convince other gullible rubes.
Which is it?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
no, because it's implied by default for all detainable offenses, and therefore not necessary.
please provide a single example of criminals being detained with their children?
"Obama don't separate me from my mommy!" in plain English, right there. Are you implying that these poor asylum seekers are lying?
pretty disgusting racist revisionist history you're spreading there
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You know you're repeating outright lies here, correct?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/
The things you're saying have no basis in reality. There is no law requiring the separation of children from families. No other administration did this.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
first, lol snopes
second, name any law that specifies the separation of children from a criminal family member (that isn't somehow related to child abuse).
guess what? it happens anyway, because fucking DUH if a parent goes to jail the child is still free, maybe they become a ward of the state or something, but they're not kept with the parent for their detention.
this is not a difficult concept, pizza.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
And stopped reading. You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol what a convenient way to avoid dealing with the killshot I've had to repeat several goddamn times now:
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
oh fucking awesome I got you to do this twice in one week
/u/the_reason_trump_won look at this shit lol
/u/masterlawlz do I get a special flair too?
i do this for you, /r/Drama :
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You are dismissed until you copy paste a single thing from that snopes article that is factually incorrect.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-06-20
You were put down. Please refrain from further discussing topics you have no education in.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-20
congrats on being a more persistent sperg retard than pizzashill, im sure youre very proud
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
thanks bruh
1 LadyVetinari 2018-06-20
This will be his only accomplishment, probably ever. Maybe we should tell his parents, alert a local newspaper? Idk
1 darkinard 2018-06-20
Hey, anyone else here, other than those two? Or am I the only one reading this shit?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol i envy you, though I guess I got to experience the same thing 3 days ago or whatever. probably not as close to it actually happening as you are though
1 IsADragon 2018-06-20
I'm pretty deep in here now
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-06-20
means a lot of things to a lot of people. which definition are you using, since there are many different breakdowns. you could cite Huntington, or perhaps that dickweed Ed Said. then there's de Chardin, or Toynbee, or you could divert completely and go with a socio-religious definition, or one based on colonizing powers.
Mexico is definitely more of a Western nation than, say, Myanmar. And nations like China have become more Western than they have been in the past, but then again they had to do something after the shit the Qing got them into.
so you see, not exactly a mong question really. and hey, the beaners ain't gonna jump ship for the chinks anytime soon anyway, nor the towelheads, nor the savages in africa. #GringoYPuto4Lyfe !!!
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Everyone knows when someone says "western country" they mean Mexico, for sure.
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-06-20
now* that's* a response worthy of a true mong.
1 Pepperglue 2018-06-20
Well Hispanics are White.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
have you ever left your hometown? been to mexico and to 70% of european countries- mexico is western.
but again, you are in your 30s, are an incel (MGTOW on your words), addicted to video games, and live with your parents.
do you want us to help you find a MHP?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
So to be clear here, when you see people use the term "western country" and when you use the term "western country" you unironically believe Mexico is part of that?
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
fat boy- when you leave your parents house at age 40 please update us.
mexico has every feature of a western country, developed country, 1st world country or any other pedantic argument you should bring up.
you have been put down. please do not speak on topics you are not educated on.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You're outright trying to change what the term "western country" means in a political context.
The real question is why.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
i’d love to hear your definition of a western country
interesting that you linked wiki when days ago you mocked people for using wiki as a source.
you have been put down
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
I've already told you what the term "western world" means in a political context.
It means white, European, liberal democracy.
Australia, western Europe, the US, Canada, etc.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
ah yes. the old ‘my rules apply to you you; not me’
i feel like being overweight and depressed is not good for your mental health. i’d love to recommend you to someone.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
This can't continue until you provide proof I'm over-weight.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
overweight* you idiot
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
So that's a no on the proof?
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
lol chill fatty
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
Except, you know one of the really big ones - rule of law.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
america has more law breakers than mexico. america isn’t a western country?
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
I feel like you don’t quite have the grasp of that concept.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
I've traveled quite a bit, especially around the "Western World" - including most nations in the EU, Aus, Canada, etc. And I've been to Mexico a few times too.
Mexico is not a "Western" nation, don't a be a fucking retard.
1 redditisgay6969 2018-06-20
go on
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
There really isn't anywhere to go. I can call you a retard again if it makes you feel validated, though.
1 grungebot5000 2018-06-20
yeah and it usually includes Spain & Sons
1 CommonThroat 2018-06-20
Because they are spics speaking Spanish. Much like how Spain isn't European
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
Lmao Spain is European.
1 CommonThroat 2018-06-20
😏😏😏😏
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
Strange but true.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
Because it's fucking Mexico you retard. There isn't one definitive definition of what makes a "Western" country. But most include a certain level of development and a certain sort of values. Actual geographic location is generally fairly irrelevant, on the other hand. Australia doesn't fulfill any of your conditions, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world
1 survivaltactics 2018-06-20
Too bad the law doesn’t care about feels.
1 survivaltactics 2018-06-20
Agreed, some people are sad therefore it shouldn’t be a law.
1 Redactor0 2018-06-20
So you like Jeff Sessions now? Where were you when Trump was talking shit about him for the last 12 months?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
i'm mixed on him, and Trump has thrown some shade but he can fire the guy whenever he wants, so something tells me that those disagreements are nothing but smoke and mirrors that marks like yourself get taken in by
1 Redactor0 2018-06-20
So if Trump fires him, will you look back at this and eat a bag of dicks?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
it really looks like if he was gonna do it, he would have already.
but if so, will I admit I was wrong? yeah
will I give a shit? not really
1 Redactor0 2018-06-20
I'm gonna hold you to that. I mean, I would if I was capable of remembering this 3 days from now.
1 JohnBlind 2018-06-20
"Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section... "
The majority of them aren't breaking laws though. It's just a scummy way to keep all asylum seekers out instead of filtering out the people lying to get in.
1 error404brain 2018-06-20
The fact that it was even in question mean that you lose tho.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
awwwwww
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-20
Sad!
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/resource/flores-settlement-brief-history-and-next-steps
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Still pushing this shit, are we?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
Oh yeah, Snopes. Definite arbiters of truth. See this article where they conveniently omitted that the law passed 90-9 in the Senate and only focused on the house.
Find a better source that didn't literally yesterday omit facts to support their narrative.
That aside, I said nothing about Democrats doing anything. The Flores Settlement makes it illegal to keep children with adults:
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
What in the actual fuck?
You just linked the law that established the department of homeland security. Why would that law be relevant to this?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/5005/actions
What fucking fact was omitted?
Nice try:
https://supportkind.org/resources/flores-settlement-myth-v-fact/
Keep trying to pretend this wasn't a Trump specific choice, there's a reason bitch boy caved.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
Please read the entirety of the linked Snopes article before replying next time. Start with the second paragraph of the Snopes article I linked (starting with "One versions of that rumor" [sic]), and note whether they ever mention the 40 Democrat Senators that voted for the bill (8 Democrats and 1 independent make up the 9 nays). Of course they don't, because it's inconvenient. To me, that discredits them. I shouldn't have to double check a website that smugly claims to "battle against misinformation" on every article. It is textbook "misinformation" to omit inconvenient facts. 49 Republican and 40 Democrat Senators voting in favor of a bill is about as bi-partisan as one can hope, and while it did pass with significantly more more Republican voters in the house (207), 88 Democrat ayes is not nothing.
I don't really care about this other shit, but I don't trust Snopes not to omit facts that are inconvenient to whatever narrative they're pushing because they literally did just that yesterday.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
The bill you're trying to claim caused this did absolutely not cause this.
You are literally a retarded person if you think that law caused this.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
ok
1 shallowm 2018-06-20
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
Thank you for your input.
1 MG87 2018-06-20
It's funny because you're a crack baby
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
I appreciate your insightful comment.
1 MG87 2018-06-20
Want some rocks?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
ALL PARENTS WHO ARE CRIMINALLY DETAINED ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS IF THE SPECIFIC LAW AGAINST THAT OFFENSE SPECIFIES SO.
ILLEGAL BORDER-CROSSING DETAINEES ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS. FUCKING OBVIOUSLY.
lol
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You're literally a retarded person. At this point everyone knows you're wrong, even daddy, which is why he backed down like the little bitch he is.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
lol pizza I know you might have been to young to remember, but when you were 2 years old your real mom and dad were arrested for meth-whoring, and they took you away from them into the molestation factory you grew up in.
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
Imagine unironically linking to snopes as ‘proof’
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
You have 1 reply to copy paste what from that snopes article is factually incorrect.
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
Being a mayo leftist is one thing, but there is something so utterly pathetic about being a mayo leftist in denial. Admit it and own it pizzashill! Or come to the center where you belong.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
So that's a no?
1 d4ddyd54m4 2018-06-20
Imagine getting BTFO by pizzashill. Insert pizza snappy quote
1 Pepperglue 2018-06-20
This is not exactly what you're looking for, but it is intellectually dishonest.
I wouldn't put too much faith in Snopes.
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
But being against child trafficking is racist! Will you disavow? Also did pizzashill really block you?
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
he did, I don't know if he actually unblocked me or if it's just the new reddit not carrying that shit over, or what
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
Probably new reddit not carrying it over. Imagine being so overly emotional that you block another user. He should have to go back to the traphouse imo
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-20
goddamn the right can't meem
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-20
is 4chan like out of spots or something? if you want to post chan-level shit in a chan-level way, just go do it there
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-20
now do, "bussy" and, "reeeee" so you can match them to, "muh _____" for the holy trinity of stupid unoriginal bullshit, your parrot
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
this guy talking shit about using "bussy" on r/drama, i can tell you're gonna be a big hit here
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-20
reeee muh bussy XD
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-20
The immigrants are trying to change the culture here.
I saw someone calling mayocide a meme today. This subreddot is approaching unreadable.
1 SuitableHippo999 2018-06-20
Ed was the one who started it. Which just further goes to prove the theory that all the new immigrants are Ed alts.
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-06-20
Cheeto xD le Drumpf xD Rethuglicans xD xD le Tiny Hands xDD xD
1 modsarethebest 2018-06-20
demoKKKrats
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-20
/u/RecallRethuglicans, how do you respond to the allegations that your name is a weak attempt at memeing?
1 RecallRethuglicans 2018-06-20
Was it better when I was /r/beratebirthers?
1 jubbergun 2018-06-20
It was better when your mother was militantly pro-choice.
1 survivaltactics 2018-06-20
Agreed. They need to come up with better memes, like:
1 GeauxHouston22 2018-06-20
sit here and look me in the FACE and tell me that the nickname, "Cheeto Benito" is not absolutely excellent nickname
1 survivaltactics 2018-06-20
I much prefer another one of the left’s all time great, Mango Mussolini.
1 captainpriapism 2018-06-20
pokemon go to the polls
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
Are you really this fucking stupid, or are you just pretending for shits and giggles?
1 Zozbot 2018-06-20
zoz
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zle
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zozzle
1 fingerpaintswithpoop 2018-06-20
YOU’RE BACK! 😄
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
warms my cold dead heart, really.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
pizza if you're gonna use your alts to vote manipulate you shouldn't comment with them
the giveaway was /u/Kat_B0T 's post being negative, btw. he hit a nerve didn't he?
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
This is an alt, he really dislikes me though.
1 kermit_was_right 2018-06-20
So, the answer is yes, obviously.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-20
lol "why are people being mean to me for my pro-child-prison stance? must be alts!!"
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-06-20
Nigga where do you think you are? Church?
I mean I know you've got a old cock in each hole right now, but this ain't church
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-20
is this some sort of inscrutable attempt at a Cathedral joke? i didnt have you pegged as that sort of retard
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1 westofthetracks 2018-06-20
right, okay, even dumber than that. thats what i figured
1 MG87 2018-06-20
This is what retards actually believe
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
This manufactured media hype the last few days is all about pushing this “bi partisan” legislation through, comprised of a coalition of pro-cheap wage slave rinos and open-borders ‘we need new voters’ demonrats, I’m sure the legislation will have the American people in mind. Hopefully daddy blocky if bad! Sad
1 BasicallyADoctor 2018-06-20
These big letters made me feel uncomfortable 😓😓
1 Kat_B0T 2018-06-20
Suck it up buttercup
1 le_epic_xd 2018-06-20
We don't suck here, kat. We just get fucked
1 BasicallyADoctor 2018-06-20
Finally Poppa will be able to stop those evil democrats from locking children up
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-06-20
Maybe he was just trying to get a little pineapple on his pizza but MSM has stopped him 🤔🤔🤔
1 MG87 2018-06-20
Nevermind that this was his idea in the first fucking place
1 le_epic_xd 2018-06-20
the joke
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1 TRANSPHOBOS 2018-06-20
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/06/more_than_100_illegal_immigran.html
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
Arresting people crossing the border illegally is perfectly reasonable but we lost the propaganda war to the fake news on this one. That's fine. Win some, lose some. I think cutting our losses on this is the best play since perceptions have basically spiraled out of control.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
Can you explain why Trump lied this so many times if it's ok?
1 Zozbot 2018-06-20
zoz
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zozzle
1 Redactor0 2018-06-20
Thanks Zoz. That's the best possible answer to this question.
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
Lied about what? Trump is on both sides of every issue. It's how he operates/negotiates. If you mean why did he say its up to the Democrats to change the border policy, that is not a lie. It's simply that the media chooses to interpret everything he says in the way most likely to paint him as wrong. It's necessary to arrest people at the border because our immigration system is intolerable. Given that, it is in the hands of democrats to vote for meaningful reform so that arresting people crossing the border won't be a thing. Also, it is in fact required by law that if you arrest people, you can't house them with their children. It is also a fact that illegal immigrants were arrested under the Obama administration if they had been previously deported. That also created "family separation". This is not a completely new policy, it's just more aggressive.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
claimed he had to do this because it was a democratic law.
Claimed he couldn't do anything about it.
Tried to claim this wasn't his doing:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/20/trump-false-claims-family-separations-656011
Should we keep going?
How the fuck is it up to the democrats to change a Trump admin specific policy he's in complete control of?
You realize this was a direction action by himself and Sessions, right?
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213428839.html
Lol? How is our immigration system intolerable? Why are you so gullible as to believe there's any immigration crisis in this country? You understand it's a wedge issue the GOP came up with to bamboozle people like you, right?
You're hilariously fucking dishonest.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
You clearly don't even read the gish gallop bullshit links you post. For instance, in the politifact link, it's filled to the brim with weasel words.
| generally refrained from
| "occasionally" saw separated families
| such separations occurred in rare cases
The bottom line is that everything in that piece says I am right, this did happen under Obama, though not uniformly which I never claimed, but still in the end they grasp at mind reading techniques ( that family separation is the goal and not a consequence of arrests ) and claim it's False. It's classic fake news in action.
No one is lying about an arrest policy existing. However, there is no policy of "family separation". That is a ridiculous far-left spin. There is a policy of arresting people who cross the border illegally. Family separation is a consequence of that. That is a key distinction. It's like saying that the criminal justice system has a policy of letting accused rapists go free when in reality the system has a policy of requiring evidence to put people in jail. Maybe the feminists have gotten to you.
It is also 100% true that a 9th circuit decision makes it impossible to keep children with jailed parents. You just don't even understand what you are posting because you don't fucking read it.
Whether of not the immigration problem is intolerable is of course a matter of opinion. I think you will find that most Trump supporters agree, though.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
This is wild. I've never seen delusion of this caliber, the fact you're still repeating this shit is insane.
Even when confronted about irrefutable proof that Trump lied you'll still just keep digging it.
Cults are hilarious.
NO OTHER FUCKING ADMIN DID THIS.
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
Your problem is that you are stupid and can't read good. No other admin implemented mandatory arrests at the border. The point of the federal decision is that if you arrest people, you can't house them with their kids. I know, its a nuance and you aren't good at that, but I am putting it out there again for others to read.
The other thing I don't know what you are talking about. I refuted everything you said and now you repeating things like some sort of deranged toddler. Tell me what you want. Use your words little guy. Do you want some bussy?
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
This is actually one of the most insane things I've ever seen in my life.
Trump admin puts into place new, aggressive policy that leads to the mass arrest and separation of children from families.
Trump claims this isn't his fault.
How, in your head, is the Trump admin deliberately changing policy not, in fact, his fault?
Better yet, considering you just admitted that this is a Trump admin policy, how then, is it not true, that he lied when he said this was the fault of democrats?
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
There is no lie. There is far-left spin that won out this time. Everything i have said is consistent. it is the policy that people crossing the border are arrested. No one has denied that. It is also the policy that Target prosecutes shoplifters. If you try to claim that Target has a policy of family separation for shoplifters, that would be a really dishonest spin, wouldn't it?
If Target then says the shoplifter prosecution policy is the fault of < insert anything that they think causes people to shoplift>, you jump up and say FALSE!!! You can stop prosecuting people any time you want!!. Congratulations, you are Dwight from Office Space. Of Target does not mean they can't change their own policy. Just as it's the fault of Democrats that an aggressive policy must be put in place, Trump could choose to do nothing instead of be aggressive. You can disagree that it's democrats fault or that Trump should be aggressive. However, "it's the democrats fault" is still merely a matter of opinion, not a lie. You just choose the overly literal interpretation because you are sick with TDS.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
K, this is where I stopped reading because it's still denial.
Trump lied multiple times.
And to prove my point, here's just one.
When Trump said he couldn't do anything about it, was this true or false?
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
No, because he was referring to the fact that he cannot house children in their parents jail cell, not to the fact that we could stop arresting people. It's again a case of choosing to interpret what he says without any context.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
This is actually a fantastic example of how far a cultist will go to avoid admitting the idol of said cult isn't a liar.
Even though he irrefutably lies, over and over, you'll find a way to spin out of it.
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
I am glad you could admit that I have "spun my way out it". It's a de facto admission that I am right.
1 pizzashill 2018-06-20
No, it's that he outright lied and you'll refuse to admit it.
The most obvious reason being this was a Trump admin specific policy meaning he could have ended it at any time.
1 westofthetracks 2018-06-20
which party controls the presidency and both houses right now? think real hard, i know this is a tough one
1 take_a_dumpling 2018-06-20
Democrats need to get a reasonable bill through the senate. Unfortunately, open borders democrats are simply not reasonable people.
1 mcslibbin 2018-06-20
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1 captainpriapism 2018-06-20
lol everyone who cries about pretend child concentration camps is a gullible faggot
also this just means theyre going to deport everyone to keep them together now