I am not sure which is more cringey, the litany of erroneous assumptions you splayed out or the act of calling upon the student archetype with the intent of derision. Anti-intellectualism, check. src
Do you remember how you joined Gamergate? You probably didn't want to at first, didn't think you needed to. You just wanted to be left alone and play video games. But these people just kept lying about you and your hobby. Lied about Youtubers and Streamers you knew were good people. Lied about everything. Someone had to stand up to them and that someone was you and me and everyone here.
Gamergate was an opening skirmish, welcome to the war soldier. You may not have wanted to join the political Right. You may not have wanted to fight for Western Civilization. It doesn't matter what you wanted because the people on the other side hate you just for who you are and they will not leave you alone. Total war has been declared and there is no other choice but to fight, the alternative isn't something you want to think about.
It is not about Hillary or Trump or petty American politics. It is about the survival of truth and justice and a civil society. If we lose we are going to enter a dark age of actual war and death the likes of which has never been seen on this earth. They aren't just trying to change your history they are trying to change your future as well. Fight!
I didn't sign up for this. I signed up for ethics in journalism. Please I do not want to be a part of your meme jihad and the eradication of the SJWs. I just want to play my video games in peace đ.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the FUCK on. Gamergate was an actual problem with videogame journalism ethics that gamers cared about because we don't want dishonest reviews of games that are given purely because some idiot wanted to get his dick wet. Don't even fucking start conflating that ideal with the neonazis and Trumpsters. For fucks sake. The constant bitching about SJWs from them is because even though the initial enemy of GG was just dishonest journos, the SJW movement tried to make it about sexism. The whole thing where the GG people are pissed off at SJWs? The SJWs brought that on themselves. And I'm not talking about regular feminists, I'm talking about people who think all men are secretly rapists just waiting for the right moment, those kinds of people. People who think I can't criticize a woman without being sexist for doing so. Us here? The people who want real immigration reform to make it easier to become a naturalized citizen so they can contribute taxes and not take away from our salaries by doing jobs under the table for less than minimum wage? We aren't SJW's, no matter what the idiots at /r/the_donald say.
You sir have won. I hope you enjoy your bussy and lesbian pedophilia filled games. Gaming is dead because you allowed it to die. If only you had read John Locke and become a true intellectual maybe you would be able to fully understand what this movement was about.
Now if you want some real change, please donate to my Patreon⢠or donate during one of my Youtube streams via StreamLabs⢠or Super Chats. Through donations you can get access to my exclusive donator-only discord channel (where we plan stomp out the SJWs) and support my videos.
Could I recommend JS Mill's "On Liberty" instead of Locke? Also, maybe a little bit of Hobbes (I haven't read him but anyone who pisses off Rousseau is in my good books until proven otherwise).
Oh, we are friend. This one crossed The Line. I was about to hit the streets and trying to decide whether I needed to be armed when I did so - a bunch of my peers were in the same boat. This wasn't going to stand - we ARE better than this, and that chicken-shit Nazi POTUS is goddamn lucky he backed off when he did, because people were PISSED and about ready to storm these child Nazi camps and dispense some good old-fashioned American justice.
Remember this moment folks. And remember what it is we do with Nazis in this country. We're about sick of this fascist shit - and we're going to end it come November once and for all.
to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand GamerGate. The dedication to ethics in games journalism is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of video games most of the ethical failings of games journalists will go over a typical viewerâs head. Thereâs also Anita Sarkesianâs feminist agenda, which is deftly woven into the gaming journalistâs writings- her personal philosophy draws heavily from communists literature, for instance. The real gamers understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the treat to gaming, to realize that theyâre not just funny- they say something deep about GAMES. As a consequence people who dislike GamerGate truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldnât appreciate, for instance, the struggle in /Pol/ existential catchphrase âThe fucking kikes did thisâ which itself is a cryptic reference to everting bad that has ever happened. Iâm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Ben Garrisouns genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. đ And yes, by the way, i DO have a Vivian James tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. Itâs for the ladiesâ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that theyâre within 5 Gamerscore points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid đ
Someone got caught cheating on her boyfriend with game reviewers.
Journalists lashed out, worried their polyamorous rape cult would be revealed to the public. So far like a hundred journalists and celebrities have found to be rapists harassers or tranny killers. Hiding their crimes with the rape cult called male feminism.
A woman cheated on her boyfriend with people in the game industry, then she lied to him and threatened suicide when he wanted to leave.
People found out and the media reacted by starting a harassment campaign against the abused man while projecting harassment on people who just wanted to point out that her fucking game journalists is a conflict of interest.
~~A woman cheated on her boyfriend with people in the game industry, then she lied to him and threatened suicide when he wanted to leave.
People found out and the media reacted by starting a harassment campaign against the abused man while projecting harassment on people who just wanted to point out that her fucking game journalists is a conflict of interest.
~~
A bunch of dudebros on the internet just can't stand women in gaming, and harassed them with cyber violence
"Acshually it's about thousands of people from all across the internet, even sites with polar opposite political opinions getting together and sending mean tweets to a handful of women for some reason"
If you can't get something so simple correct, then how can you ever hope to have a bigger more important system correctly working?
Gamergate was a tiny microcosm of what we have now. Journalists being activists and collaborating with each other in unethical ways, which trickles up to major media platforms.
The fact that we can't get fucking video game journalism working correctly is an embarrassment and means we'll never be able to handle anything bigger and more important.
"Its fucking VIDEO GAMES, dude. Who gives a fuck about """ETHICS""" in video games journalism? Its entertainment. "
I hope you now see how embarrassing this statement is.
Its like complaining about ethics in dailymail TMZ journalism*.
A scandal from a long time ago which, depending on who you talk to was either a campaign to root out corruption and shady practices in games journalism, a campaign against SJW influence in video games, or a campaign to get mad at and harass women for criticizing or being involved in video games.
At this point it's really not worth the effort to research and go down the rabbit hole.
It's absurd how long of an explanation is required to even touch on what gamergate is. It's depressing that I can recall a lot of that information from memory ;(
Firefly is a space cowboy metaphor for the rise of the south, and the long term folly of Union oppression. Whedon may be ignorant of his own intent, but it's a pretty rad concept regardless of him and his shitty fans.
Firefly is a space cowboy metaphor for the rise of the south
Rise? More like Reconstruction, only the Union is lily-white and the Confederacy is racially integrated. (The total absence of Chinese actors in FF is still one of the Eight Wonders of Hollywood, unless Sino-American rule is divided, like Niven & Pournelle's US-Soviet CoDominium.)
Joss Whedon traffics in emotional manipulation without internal logic. Buffy seasons 2-3 were the best ones because probably the last thing Whedon "got" was high school. He's the Pete Seeger of our generation:
Ah, Hiram. You could have been a hero with just a slight attitude adjustment. Oh, well.
Consider "Heart of Gold." Consider how little time was spent thinking this stuff out in favor of mindless "white patriarchal cis-het scumlord" bigotry. What is the policy of the Companions Guild towards pregnancy? Unless contraception is mandatory and enforced, they must have some of the busiest uteri in the 'Verse.
If not, what happens to men who find out their usual girl has suddenly taken a ten month vacation? Surely some of them want those kids? Companions are expensive; surely the men who hire them are wealthy, which means many of them are also powerful. Does male birth control exist? Is the assumption that, if you knock up a girl outside of marriage (or something like a pre-nup) the male gets no control over the kid?
But just saying a guy has no legal rights doesn't eliminate all trouble. Does the Guild have no rules, or strong social mores, against handing the kids over to the dads? If they don't, then you've just set the rule, "Any baby between a Companion and client is the Companion's unless you manage to convince her otherwise. That is like setting a rule that may not be changed unless your kids whine at you really hard.
And, of course, Burgess' immediate stooping to violence is mindless. Whatever happened to rich men buying their way out of trouble? Is this hooker really turning down her own small house in town, and regular opportunities to see her kid? If Burgess is really this violent and crazy, why bang him in the first place? Does he really have no enemies?
"Oh, look, there's a space ship! Hey, Spreads-Her-Legs-For-Cash, why not waddle onto that ship and get off the planet controlled by the psycho-killer and have that kid somewhere else? You know, so everyone else can live through this?"
The attack? It's the worst! Any halfway decent corporal would:
put Mal, Zoe and Jane in three covered foxholes, in a short arc, between the town and the brothel, close enough to mutually support;
put Book, Simon or both on a hill near town to observe the enemy forces departing for the engagement, and/or
launch Serenity for observation/air power;
wait for Burgess' land speeder to pass over the foxholes, then
shoot the SOB in the back.
And everyone flying in with him, too.
Then knock over the local bank.
Then run like Hell. Because,
God loves him who loves his kill box.
The dumbest, greenest U.S. Army private would know their best bet is to get out of the house. And yet our lovable gang of idiots failed to use the most basic military tactics! No wonder the Browncoats lost: they deserved to.
And where is Mrs Sterile in all this? Yes, yes, I know, unFeminist Women Have No Agency. But is she really incapable of seeing how a deal between her and the hooker would advantage both? Failing that, why not pop over to the brothel for a quick visit, and when your hostess politely hands you your cup of tea, whip out a derringer and put two bullets in that swollen belly? Now that would be a real public service announcement on the evils of prostitution.
"Girls and boys as young as twelve may begin training..." What happens if they quit at 19? Who pays for all that training? Also, I'm impressed that Islam was extinguished on Earth; otherwise the "Madrassa," AKA Inara's Hooker High, would have a sign, "Incoming mujahideen please use service entrance."
In a parallel universe, GamerGate arose as a movement to drive abusive/rapey/predatory male feminists out of gaming in a post-#MeToo world after the chat logs between Erica Gjoni and Moe Quinn were leaked, revealing the latter as a manipulative borderline adulterer and gaslighter who used threats of suicide to keep the former in a relationship with him after she discovered that he'd cheated on her with five other women.
Well in an Alternate universe Zoe would be actually bi, instead of "queer but I only ever seem to fuck men, woman who was harassed out of gaming for being female, but I'm non-binary".
GamerGate turned into something bigger after people started making connections in the games media crowd. It was more than just Internet Aristocrat making fun of literally who and the Tumbler subculture.
I don't know how anyone sees it any other way. They're all the same creeps with way too similar visual patterns. It just all takes on a predatory "I care about what you're saying I promise, I swear, for real this time" vibe. Like they'll say whatever it takes to agree with the damsel, anything to try and make her love him. Pathetic.
It doesn't deal that much with the problems masculinity faces, but thats because it would have been like blaming the anti-slavery movement for not addressing economic inequality among whites. Priorities.
No, I seriously disagree with them. They think women had easy cushy lives while men struggled.
I don't think that, I think life sucked before world war 2 because everyone was poor as fuck and when entire societies are poor it tends to make gendered problems much more pronounced and also leads to higher crime across the board. It's not the best example, but Mad Men doesn't exactly depict a world where it's nice to be a man unless you actually like being an emotionless weirdo.
The core problem is the both sides ignoring the very real problems the other gender faces, as well as the generational differences between each gender, and demonizing them as the problem for gendered issues (instead of a preexisting cultural structure that hasn't been properly dismanted yet).
Doing the good old both sides when women used to be, and in places still are, treated as property.
Yeah, while men are treated as disposable machines that can be worked to death or sent to die in wars.
Dude, life sucks for most people who haven't been liberated from traditional patriarchal structures. Patriarchy doesn't benefit men, it benefits patriarchs. The vast majority of men never get to become patriarchs under those structures because they die first.
This is sort of what I mean when I say "both sides are desperately ignorant to the problems of the other". Mainstream feminism is under some retarded impression that life was peachy wonderful for men and horrific for women before WWII, when the reality is far more nuanced.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Remember how Anita totally finished her kickstarter project that raised $200,000 and didn't just give up proving women can do video game critique despite
A. Most people being able to do it for free
B. Most people doing video game coverage OWN the games already and don't need money to buy basic games
Legit, if you read her manifesto, she says getting cheated on gave her "complex PTSD." You know what gives someone complex PTSD? Stuff like being held captive and tortured or raped repeatedly. Nazi concentration camp survivors get complex PTSD. Cambodian death camp survivors get complex PTSD. Chicks held in a serial killers basements and raped every day for 15 years get complex PTSD. You do not get complex PTSD from your husband chasing young poon.
The whole manifesto is super hyperbolic and loony-sounding, but that bit really sealed it for me.
How is she crazy? Her story was way to detailed to not be true. And he is totally a feminist. And a dumb one at that. He's always liking young, dumb, girls tweets on twitter, doing their podcasts, casting girls that have admitted they weren't very good actresses on his shows, and claims Kitty Pryde as one of his feminist heroes. I haven't been able to find single, serious, feminist, writer he's ever referenced. And just like Howard Stern, he stayed with her for stability while he was young, and divorced her right before he started making the BIG money. Like his movies, but don't talk out your ass.
Its entirely possible he's a creep. But seriously, that manifesto she posted was completely nutso. I'll let literally anyone in the industry accuse him of sexual.misconduct before assuming he's a rapist instead of just assuming he's a rapist because his clearly insane ex wife said he cheated on her.
Also there is a HUGE fucking gap between being a rapist and being a cheater, and it's honestly super fucked that people are conflating the two.
He's not a rapist and she never said that. My big thing is people act like cheating on somebody for ten years is no big thing. It's devastating. And I didn't find her letter nuts. That letter from Hardwick's ex-gf, now that's nuts. I'm just saying while the guy was participating in the writers strike, he also filmed Dr. Horrible and everybody worked for free. And he's a total fraud.
She claimed to get complex PTSD from being cheated on. That's insanely retarded. You get complex PTSD from spending time in a nazi concentration camp or the Hanoi Hilton. You do NOT get it from being cheated on. If she's making that up (and she is) then everything else she says is completely suspect.
She may not of phrased it correctly (due to her shrink or feminism), but if you think finding out somebody you were married to for fifteen years was cheating on you most of the time wouldn't severely fuck with your head, and ability to trust others, then you're crazy. TBH, it's one of the worst things you can do to someone. And I believe it, bc these "nice guys" always have to absolve themselves of guilt by being on honest their way out the door. Imagine yourself in this scenario, then add a couple sons that look like him.
it's one of the worst things you can do to someone.
..yeah, no it isn't. Not by a long shot. I've been cheated on and I have PTSD. Being cheated on sucks. It sucks a LOT, but the events that gave me PTSD are in another fucking universe. It's not remotely comparable on any level. Like I'm honestly glad for you that you that you can't conceive of anything worse than infidelity because it means you've lived a cushy-ass life free from any real hardship.
Like I said, comparing cheating to rape or torture or watching your mom's head get split in two in front of you or any of the other actual traumatic events that can give someone PTSD is honestly incredibly fucked.
Nobody compared it to any of your examples. And there's a huge difference between being cheated on, and being cheat on for fifteen years and left to look at your sons, who are the spitting image of the man that betrayed you. Furthermore, you don't know what I've been through, but I do know everyone deals with things differently. Especially women. And one of my best friends is Vietnam Veteran with PTSD, I know how much it fucks someone.
You're full of shit tbh. You ARE comparing it to those examples by saying it could give you PTSD or "it's one of the worst things you can do to someone." It can't. It's bad, and if true makes him a super shit person, but it's not on the same level at all. The diagnostic criteria for PTSD even exclude retarded shit like being cheated on, and if some idiot is claiming she got complex PTSD from infidelity then she's clearly either crazy or making shit up.
I know enough about what you've been through because you have the perspective of a pampered 15-year-old on this lmao. I have a friend who's a chemist. Does that make me a chemistry expert?
There are levels to everything. Just as you being cheated on does not compare to being cheated on for 15 years by the father of your two children and husband, nor does that compare to serving in Vietnam. In any case, you're a fucking loser that white knights a beta-male-simp, simply because you like his art. WOW. Alien Resurection was so great. Fuck off and leave me alone, loser.
Like I have any clue where your pathetic self is at to even make a gesture at you. Gamergate IS an issue because your little band of terrorists drove women from their homes, impacted their ability to earn livings, and still keeps them from using social media like everybody else.
How delusional does one have to be to think that history will remember a dude who made superhero movies at some point, or a youtube channel devoted to complaining about video games, or a "movement" devoted to complaining about the aforementioned people.
Oh no people are spreading bullshit conspiracy theories and rumors about someone?
Oh my god, that is so unprecedented and shocking that it's just ... CHILLING. Holy shit yeah this really needs to be something we all know about otherwise how would we know about the UNHEARD OF act of rumor spreading and conspiracy bullshit on the internet.
/sarcasm
Seriously don't you have anything better to do than to act like this is something important and not just random background internet bullshit?
He'll never suffer, because he's a big time contributor to the Dem party, and feminist causes. And he's always played nice, and is a third generation screenwriter.
Oh the "Bullshit conspiracies" are about how she was on stage (in power) and called an audience member "human garbage" and somehow a year on a statement has been released about how they shouldn't let meanie audience members into discussion panels of victimized woman....
Only crazed conspiracies seems to be the alternate reality Anita lives in.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-06-24
I am not sure which is more cringey, the litany of erroneous assumptions you splayed out or the act of calling upon the student archetype with the intent of derision. Anti-intellectualism, check. src
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1 SecretDragoon 2018-06-24
What's GamerGate? đ¤
1 wisty 2018-06-24
Do you remember how you joined Gamergate? You probably didn't want to at first, didn't think you needed to. You just wanted to be left alone and play video games. But these people just kept lying about you and your hobby. Lied about Youtubers and Streamers you knew were good people. Lied about everything. Someone had to stand up to them and that someone was you and me and everyone here.
Gamergate was an opening skirmish, welcome to the war soldier. You may not have wanted to join the political Right. You may not have wanted to fight for Western Civilization. It doesn't matter what you wanted because the people on the other side hate you just for who you are and they will not leave you alone. Total war has been declared and there is no other choice but to fight, the alternative isn't something you want to think about.
It is not about Hillary or Trump or petty American politics. It is about the survival of truth and justice and a civil society. If we lose we are going to enter a dark age of actual war and death the likes of which has never been seen on this earth. They aren't just trying to change your history they are trying to change your future as well. Fight!
1 SecretDragoon 2018-06-24
I didn't sign up for this. I signed up for
ethics in journalism. Please I do not want to be a part of your meme jihad and the eradication of the SJWs. I just want to play my video games in peace đ.1 wisty 2018-06-24
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the FUCK on. Gamergate was an actual problem with videogame journalism ethics that gamers cared about because we don't want dishonest reviews of games that are given purely because some idiot wanted to get his dick wet. Don't even fucking start conflating that ideal with the neonazis and Trumpsters. For fucks sake. The constant bitching about SJWs from them is because even though the initial enemy of GG was just dishonest journos, the SJW movement tried to make it about sexism. The whole thing where the GG people are pissed off at SJWs? The SJWs brought that on themselves. And I'm not talking about regular feminists, I'm talking about people who think all men are secretly rapists just waiting for the right moment, those kinds of people. People who think I can't criticize a woman without being sexist for doing so. Us here? The people who want real immigration reform to make it easier to become a naturalized citizen so they can contribute taxes and not take away from our salaries by doing jobs under the table for less than minimum wage? We aren't SJW's, no matter what the idiots at /r/the_donald say.
1 SecretDragoon 2018-06-24
You sir have won. I hope you enjoy your bussy and lesbian pedophilia filled games. Gaming is dead because you allowed it to die. If only you had read John Locke and become a true intellectual maybe you would be able to fully understand what this movement was about.
Now if you want some real change, please donate to my Patreon⢠or donate during one of my Youtube streams via StreamLabs⢠or Super Chats. Through donations you can get access to my exclusive donator-only discord channel (where we plan stomp out the SJWs) and support my videos.
1 wisty 2018-06-24
Fresh pasta?
1 SecretDragoon 2018-06-24
Yes I was bored.
1 wisty 2018-06-24
Could I recommend JS Mill's "On Liberty" instead of Locke? Also, maybe a little bit of Hobbes (I haven't read him but anyone who pisses off Rousseau is in my good books until proven otherwise).
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
Fight!?
Oh, we are friend. This one crossed The Line. I was about to hit the streets and trying to decide whether I needed to be armed when I did so - a bunch of my peers were in the same boat. This wasn't going to stand - we ARE better than this, and that chicken-shit Nazi POTUS is goddamn lucky he backed off when he did, because people were PISSED and about ready to storm these child Nazi camps and dispense some good old-fashioned American justice.
Remember this moment folks. And remember what it is we do with Nazis in this country. We're about sick of this fascist shit - and we're going to end it come November once and for all.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-06-24
to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand GamerGate. The dedication to ethics in games journalism is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of video games most of the ethical failings of games journalists will go over a typical viewerâs head. Thereâs also Anita Sarkesianâs feminist agenda, which is deftly woven into the gaming journalistâs writings- her personal philosophy draws heavily from communists literature, for instance. The real gamers understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the treat to gaming, to realize that theyâre not just funny- they say something deep about GAMES. As a consequence people who dislike GamerGate truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldnât appreciate, for instance, the struggle in /Pol/ existential catchphrase âThe fucking kikes did thisâ which itself is a cryptic reference to everting bad that has ever happened. Iâm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Ben Garrisouns genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. đ And yes, by the way, i DO have a Vivian James tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. Itâs for the ladiesâ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that theyâre within 5 Gamerscore points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid đ
1 telandrias 2018-06-24
Someone got caught cheating on her boyfriend with game reviewers.
Journalists lashed out, worried their polyamorous rape cult would be revealed to the public. So far like a hundred journalists and celebrities have found to be rapists harassers or tranny killers. Hiding their crimes with the rape cult called male feminism.
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
A woman cheated on her boyfriend with people in the game industry, then she lied to him and threatened suicide when he wanted to leave.
People found out and the media reacted by starting a harassment campaign against the abused man while projecting harassment on people who just wanted to point out that her fucking game journalists is a conflict of interest.
1 talkshitgetshot 2018-06-24
Wow that is fucked.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-06-24
FTFY
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-24
FTFY.
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
Yeah, all those thousands of dudebros on 4chan, tumblr, reddit, rpgcodex...
Or maybe that story doesn't even make sense.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-06-24
"Acshually it's about ethics and gaming journalism"
Die.
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
"Acshually it's about thousands of people from all across the internet, even sites with polar opposite political opinions getting together and sending mean tweets to a handful of women for some reason"
Literally doesn't make sense.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-06-24
Are you retarded? It's because they hate women. It's pretty obvious you haven't been paying attention.
1 tritter211 2018-06-24
I am sorry but... Its fucking VIDEO GAMES, dude. Who gives a fuck about """ETHICS""" in video games journalism? Its entertainment.
Its like complaining about ethics in dailymail TMZ journalism*.
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
If you can't get something so simple correct, then how can you ever hope to have a bigger more important system correctly working?
Gamergate was a tiny microcosm of what we have now. Journalists being activists and collaborating with each other in unethical ways, which trickles up to major media platforms.
The fact that we can't get fucking video game journalism working correctly is an embarrassment and means we'll never be able to handle anything bigger and more important.
I hope you now see how embarrassing this statement is.
People do. Often.
1 ABSOLUTELY__BASED 2018-06-24
Imagine taking Vidya games this seriously lmaooo
1 alien557 2018-06-24
A scandal from a long time ago which, depending on who you talk to was either a campaign to root out corruption and shady practices in games journalism, a campaign against SJW influence in video games, or a campaign to get mad at and harass women for criticizing or being involved in video games.
At this point it's really not worth the effort to research and go down the rabbit hole.
1 nybbas 2018-06-24
It's absurd how long of an explanation is required to even touch on what gamergate is. It's depressing that I can recall a lot of that information from memory ;(
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-06-24
Someone should remind him of the time he fired a woman for getting pregnant. Oh, and fucking little fillies behind his wifeâs back.
1 wisty 2018-06-24
The brunette in Angel wasn't it?
AFAIK he never touched Nathan Fillion but I can google to check. Wait - https://i.imgur.com/HatKeIB.jpg
1 Destirigon 2018-06-24
Tbf Nathan Fillion is a very attractive man.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-24
not cordie !!!
1 gotenksTheThirst 2018-06-24
he couldn't fire he right away he had to fuck up her character first so she knew her place
1 Kgb725 2018-06-24
He didn't fire Charisma for getting pregnant
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-24
We all know Whedon is a (male feminist)
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-06-24
(male feminist) looks anti-semitic since it's a little close to (((echo brackets)))
might I suggest ~male feminist~ with cum marks on either side?
for instance, ~Joss Whedon~ fired a woman for getting pregnant
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-24
I don't like that either. Hm. Maybe {}? Or ||? We need a tribunal for this
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-06-24
since they're trying to get into your ({}) how about ({male feminist})
1 lifesbrink 2018-06-24
Hey I like that!
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-24
Perfect, nice work fella
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-24
"Male FeministTM "
1 sac-lawn-gnome 2018-06-24
Burn!
1 wisty 2018-06-24
noice
1 VidiotGamer 2018-06-24
Sucks his wife missed the peak /#metoo freakout. If there's anyone who deserves to never work again, it's this talentless little bitch.
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
Firefly is the cringiest piece of shit I've ever tried to watch and I've seen Braveheart.
1 wisty 2018-06-24
Whedon's work is a lot like Tarantino's stuff in that way. It's a good kind of cringe (until you realise he didn't mean it that way).
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
Braveheart, on the other hand, is amazing because it's unintentionally hilarious.
1 LedinToke 2018-06-24
braveheart is kino
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
My favourite part is when he jumps out of the window on a horse.
1 rhyme-ocerus 2018-06-24
Braveheart is great but there's no defending that scene, I must concede
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
It's my favourite comedy
1 redmugofcoffee 2018-06-24
amazing because itâs an accurate representation of my heritage you mean....
1 alien557 2018-06-24
What's cringey about Tarantino's work (Tarantino the person is definitely a little weird but he doesn't seem like an asshole).
1 AtomicWolf425 2018-06-24
He's talented, but nah, he's def an asshole irl.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-24
Braveheart is awesome. You may need a testosterone supplement.
Firefly is almost as embarrassing as its fans though.
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
I prefer Australian Mel Gibson.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-06-24
"Oi ya kike cunt, Oim not droivin' drunk"
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-06-24
He was beautiful as a young man. Don't know whether he was certifiable yet.
1 FaygoMakesMeGo 2018-06-24
Firefly is a space cowboy metaphor for the rise of the south, and the long term folly of Union oppression. Whedon may be ignorant of his own intent, but it's a pretty rad concept regardless of him and his shitty fans.
1 somercet 2018-06-24
Rise? More like Reconstruction, only the Union is lily-white and the Confederacy is racially integrated. (The total absence of Chinese actors in FF is still one of the Eight Wonders of Hollywood, unless Sino-American rule is divided, like Niven & Pournelle's US-Soviet CoDominium.)
Joss Whedon traffics in emotional manipulation without internal logic. Buffy seasons 2-3 were the best ones because probably the last thing Whedon "got" was high school. He's the Pete Seeger of our generation:
Ah, Hiram. You could have been a hero with just a slight attitude adjustment. Oh, well.
Consider "Heart of Gold." Consider how little time was spent thinking this stuff out in favor of mindless "white patriarchal cis-het scumlord" bigotry. What is the policy of the Companions Guild towards pregnancy? Unless contraception is mandatory and enforced, they must have some of the busiest uteri in the 'Verse.
If not, what happens to men who find out their usual girl has suddenly taken a ten month vacation? Surely some of them want those kids? Companions are expensive; surely the men who hire them are wealthy, which means many of them are also powerful. Does male birth control exist? Is the assumption that, if you knock up a girl outside of marriage (or something like a pre-nup) the male gets no control over the kid?
But just saying a guy has no legal rights doesn't eliminate all trouble. Does the Guild have no rules, or strong social mores, against handing the kids over to the dads? If they don't, then you've just set the rule, "Any baby between a Companion and client is the Companion's unless you manage to convince her otherwise. That is like setting a rule that may not be changed unless your kids whine at you really hard.
And, of course, Burgess' immediate stooping to violence is mindless. Whatever happened to rich men buying their way out of trouble? Is this hooker really turning down her own small house in town, and regular opportunities to see her kid? If Burgess is really this violent and crazy, why bang him in the first place? Does he really have no enemies?
"Oh, look, there's a space ship! Hey, Spreads-Her-Legs-For-Cash, why not waddle onto that ship and get off the planet controlled by the psycho-killer and have that kid somewhere else? You know, so everyone else can live through this?"
The attack? It's the worst! Any halfway decent corporal would:
The dumbest, greenest U.S. Army private would know their best bet is to get out of the house. And yet our lovable gang of idiots failed to use the most basic military tactics! No wonder the Browncoats lost: they deserved to.
And where is Mrs Sterile in all this? Yes, yes, I know, unFeminist Women Have No Agency. But is she really incapable of seeing how a deal between her and the hooker would advantage both? Failing that, why not pop over to the brothel for a quick visit, and when your hostess politely hands you your cup of tea, whip out a derringer and put two bullets in that swollen belly? Now that would be a real public service announcement on the evils of prostitution.
"Girls and boys as young as twelve may begin training..." What happens if they quit at 19? Who pays for all that training? Also, I'm impressed that Islam was extinguished on Earth; otherwise the "Madrassa," AKA Inara's Hooker High, would have a sign, "Incoming mujahideen please use service entrance."
1 MooseHeckler 2018-06-24
Are we the same person?
1 Magehunter_Skassi 2018-06-24
In a parallel universe, GamerGate arose as a movement to drive abusive/rapey/predatory male feminists out of gaming in a post-#MeToo world after the chat logs between Erica Gjoni and Moe Quinn were leaked, revealing the latter as a manipulative borderline adulterer and gaslighter who used threats of suicide to keep the former in a relationship with him after she discovered that he'd cheated on her with five other women.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2018-06-24
1 PissFanatic 2018-06-24
Well in an Alternate universe Zoe would be actually bi, instead of "queer but I only ever seem to fuck men, woman who was harassed out of gaming for being female, but I'm non-binary".
1 alien557 2018-06-24
He cowrote Cabin in the Woods and that was a great movie.
1 FcpEcvRtq 2018-06-24
To be fair even I am still mad about Gamergate
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
Gotta keep that rape and abuse on the down low now that Gamergate is in town.
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
What's this even mean?
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
Anti-gamergate is a well known anti-woman hate group.
https://twitter.com/i/moments/851713200537993216?lang=en
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
Where is it a "group"? Do they have a membership form? Or are you randomly taking loads of people and collectively putting them in a box?
1 jobriq 2018-06-24
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
1 BoboOrbani55 2018-06-24
Didn't his buddy Adam Baldwin literally coin the term Gamergate? Before that it had been called Quinnspiracy
1 wisty 2018-06-24
There's a name I haven't heard of in a while - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000284/
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1 EternallyMiffed 2018-06-24
Let us sing a song of the man they called Jane.
1 Systemsmodel 2018-06-24
Technically itâs not the same thing
1 grep_var_log 2018-06-24
5 guys, burgers and fries kicked it off though.
1 _Mellex_ 2018-06-24
GamerGate turned into something bigger after people started making connections in the games media crowd. It was more than just Internet Aristocrat making fun of literally who and the Tumbler subculture.
1 BoboOrbani55 2018-06-24
I know, stupid.
1 Admins_Suck_Dick 2018-06-24
Oh oh, looks like Joss is gonna have another MeToo moment. 10 bucks says this is him mounting a defense.
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-24
30 if that defense is not the only thing he mounted.
1 Admins_Suck_Dick 2018-06-24
Make it 50 and I'll wager it was an unconcious intern.
1 SageKnows 2018-06-24
Can we just acknowledge as a fact that any male who self-describes himself as a "feminist" just want the taste of some [inferior, mind you] gussy?
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
I don't know how anyone sees it any other way. They're all the same creeps with way too similar visual patterns. It just all takes on a predatory "I care about what you're saying I promise, I swear, for real this time" vibe. Like they'll say whatever it takes to agree with the damsel, anything to try and make her love him. Pathetic.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-24
well it IS easier to get laid if you pretend to give a shit about the girl's opinions and stuff.
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
Oh you're not telling me to fuck off for no reason today? That's nice. Good to see you woke up on the right side of the bed this morning.
1 Jackdom95 2018-06-24
fuck off
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
Thanks babe.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-24
i had a date yesterday and it went well, so i'm happy today.
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-06-24
Hey good for you, best of luck ya shithead.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-24
<3
1 headasplodes 2018-06-24
Dude gussy lmao
1 stanfan114 2018-06-24
Just a politicized version of the Nice Guy.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-06-24
And then raping people
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
I may be in the wrong sub but am I the only one on the internet that understands feminism as a social movement for gender equality?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-06-24
Found the male feminist. Please stop raping.
1 InternalCartographer 2018-06-24
What does that have to do with male feminists being rapists?
1 GunOfSod 2018-06-24
What equality are they missing?
1 TransexualWiener 2018-06-24
> I may be in the wrong sub here
ya
1 shallowm 2018-06-24
a
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
That may or may not be true, but it doesn't make supporting feminism wrong.
1 dermanus 2018-06-24
Pretending to support something to get your dick wet and actually supporting it aren't the same thing.
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
It isn't.
It doesn't represent the interests of half the population.
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
It doesn't deal that much with the problems masculinity faces, but thats because it would have been like blaming the anti-slavery movement for not addressing economic inequality among whites. Priorities.
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
No, it wouldn't. If you seriously think women have comprehensively had it worse than men in the past you're an ignorant fool.
Additionally, modern feminism is doing nothing for young men who've been growing up right now in a post 2nd wave feminist world since the 90s.
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
Ah, you're one of the angry mra nutters. Just ignore me, you're a lost cause.
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
Actually they consider me a feminazi sjw and I'm banned.
Both of those movements are absurdly biased to only having one side of a two-sided discussion
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
I'm...not going back on anything I've said.
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
No, I seriously disagree with them. They think women had easy cushy lives while men struggled.
I don't think that, I think life sucked before world war 2 because everyone was poor as fuck and when entire societies are poor it tends to make gendered problems much more pronounced and also leads to higher crime across the board. It's not the best example, but Mad Men doesn't exactly depict a world where it's nice to be a man unless you actually like being an emotionless weirdo.
The core problem is the both sides ignoring the very real problems the other gender faces, as well as the generational differences between each gender, and demonizing them as the problem for gendered issues (instead of a preexisting cultural structure that hasn't been properly dismanted yet).
1 Suecotero 2018-06-24
Doing the good old both sides when women used to be, and in places still are, treated as male property.
I'm not very well versed in feminist terminology, but I believe you might qualify as a shitlord.
1 Daxx46 2018-06-24
Yeah, while men are treated as disposable machines that can be worked to death or sent to die in wars.
Dude, life sucks for most people who haven't been liberated from traditional patriarchal structures. Patriarchy doesn't benefit men, it benefits patriarchs. The vast majority of men never get to become patriarchs under those structures because they die first.
This is sort of what I mean when I say "both sides are desperately ignorant to the problems of the other". Mainstream feminism is under some retarded impression that life was peachy wonderful for men and horrific for women before WWII, when the reality is far more nuanced.
1 Damuel 2018-06-24
So does that mean you're just pretending to be a rapist?
1 old_grumpy_grandpa 2018-06-24
>am I the only one that understands things???
Neck yourself
1 aqouta 2018-06-24
Why the fuck are people downvoting the lolcow?
1 telandrias 2018-06-24
I thought she was pro trump considering she thinks video games cause terrorisms and her supporters keep raping people to prove it.
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1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-06-24
A nice guy until the end, I see.
1 XSCR 2018-06-24
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
1 OfficialBeetroot 2018-06-24
Get owned by gamergate bitch
1 ValiantPie 2018-06-24
Literally. ISIS.
1 myshl0ng 2018-06-24
unironically this
1 mrv3 2018-06-24
Remember how Anita totally finished her kickstarter project that raised $200,000 and didn't just give up proving women can do video game critique despite
A. Most people being able to do it for free
B. Most people doing video game coverage OWN the games already and don't need money to buy basic games
Her youtube channel is so unviewed it's shocking.
1 banhminobanhyou 2018-06-24
Yeah, how the hell did a youtube nobody, of which there are millions, get signal boosted so hard?
Couldn't have been that horde of screeching retards that make lists about why she's a hack anytime someone vaguely mentions her.
1 mrv3 2018-06-24
Wait if it's a multiplicative force and she was a nobody shouldn't she remain a nobody?
1 GadolBoobies 2018-06-24
Nope.
1 mrv3 2018-06-24
Ah so you must remember the time she went to the UN and erm... did something?
1 bigwordalt 2018-06-24
I wonder if there's been more words written about Gamergate than Watergate?
1 melokobeai 2018-06-24
That first reply chain is great.
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
Nah he's a supposed cheater, not a male feminist. Plus his ex wife is fucking crazy as shit and I'm not sure I believe her tbh.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-06-24
not believing women
What are you, some sort of incel/mra/kkk/nazi/gamergator???? Why do you hate women so much, you misogynist piece of crap!
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
I am literally hitler tbh.
Legit, if you read her manifesto, she says getting cheated on gave her "complex PTSD." You know what gives someone complex PTSD? Stuff like being held captive and tortured or raped repeatedly. Nazi concentration camp survivors get complex PTSD. Cambodian death camp survivors get complex PTSD. Chicks held in a serial killers basements and raped every day for 15 years get complex PTSD. You do not get complex PTSD from your husband chasing young poon.
The whole manifesto is super hyperbolic and loony-sounding, but that bit really sealed it for me.
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
How is she crazy? Her story was way to detailed to not be true. And he is totally a feminist. And a dumb one at that. He's always liking young, dumb, girls tweets on twitter, doing their podcasts, casting girls that have admitted they weren't very good actresses on his shows, and claims Kitty Pryde as one of his feminist heroes. I haven't been able to find single, serious, feminist, writer he's ever referenced. And just like Howard Stern, he stayed with her for stability while he was young, and divorced her right before he started making the BIG money. Like his movies, but don't talk out your ass.
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
Its entirely possible he's a creep. But seriously, that manifesto she posted was completely nutso. I'll let literally anyone in the industry accuse him of sexual.misconduct before assuming he's a rapist instead of just assuming he's a rapist because his clearly insane ex wife said he cheated on her.
Also there is a HUGE fucking gap between being a rapist and being a cheater, and it's honestly super fucked that people are conflating the two.
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
He's not a rapist and she never said that. My big thing is people act like cheating on somebody for ten years is no big thing. It's devastating. And I didn't find her letter nuts. That letter from Hardwick's ex-gf, now that's nuts. I'm just saying while the guy was participating in the writers strike, he also filmed Dr. Horrible and everybody worked for free. And he's a total fraud.
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
She claimed to get complex PTSD from being cheated on. That's insanely retarded. You get complex PTSD from spending time in a nazi concentration camp or the Hanoi Hilton. You do NOT get it from being cheated on. If she's making that up (and she is) then everything else she says is completely suspect.
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
She may not of phrased it correctly (due to her shrink or feminism), but if you think finding out somebody you were married to for fifteen years was cheating on you most of the time wouldn't severely fuck with your head, and ability to trust others, then you're crazy. TBH, it's one of the worst things you can do to someone. And I believe it, bc these "nice guys" always have to absolve themselves of guilt by being on honest their way out the door. Imagine yourself in this scenario, then add a couple sons that look like him.
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
..yeah, no it isn't. Not by a long shot. I've been cheated on and I have PTSD. Being cheated on sucks. It sucks a LOT, but the events that gave me PTSD are in another fucking universe. It's not remotely comparable on any level. Like I'm honestly glad for you that you that you can't conceive of anything worse than infidelity because it means you've lived a cushy-ass life free from any real hardship.
Like I said, comparing cheating to rape or torture or watching your mom's head get split in two in front of you or any of the other actual traumatic events that can give someone PTSD is honestly incredibly fucked.
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
Nobody compared it to any of your examples. And there's a huge difference between being cheated on, and being cheat on for fifteen years and left to look at your sons, who are the spitting image of the man that betrayed you. Furthermore, you don't know what I've been through, but I do know everyone deals with things differently. Especially women. And one of my best friends is Vietnam Veteran with PTSD, I know how much it fucks someone.
1 dramasexual 2018-06-24
You're full of shit tbh. You ARE comparing it to those examples by saying it could give you PTSD or "it's one of the worst things you can do to someone." It can't. It's bad, and if true makes him a super shit person, but it's not on the same level at all. The diagnostic criteria for PTSD even exclude retarded shit like being cheated on, and if some idiot is claiming she got complex PTSD from infidelity then she's clearly either crazy or making shit up.
I know enough about what you've been through because you have the perspective of a pampered 15-year-old on this lmao. I have a friend who's a chemist. Does that make me a chemistry expert?
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
There are levels to everything. Just as you being cheated on does not compare to being cheated on for 15 years by the father of your two children and husband, nor does that compare to serving in Vietnam. In any case, you're a fucking loser that white knights a beta-male-simp, simply because you like his art. WOW. Alien Resurection was so great. Fuck off and leave me alone, loser.
1 R3dditsuxc0cks 2018-06-24
People that are still butthurt about an internet fight almost 5 years later need lethal injection, regardless if you were pro or anti.
1 Mikeavelli 2018-06-24
It's basically a mercy killing at this point
1 BrotherToaster 2018-06-24
New snappy quote?
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-24
This is much better
1 SweatyGuarantee 2018-06-24
I don't even know how you could type that lie with a straight face.
That is a lie beyond lies.
1 SithisTheDreadFather 2018-06-24
[Citation Needed]
1 __Toradorable__ 2018-06-24
How delusional does one have to be to think that history will remember a dude who made superhero movies at some point, or a youtube channel devoted to complaining about video games, or a "movement" devoted to complaining about the aforementioned people.
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-06-24
If you don't already know then the answer is you probably can't.
1 Ewindal 2018-06-24
>Woke up this morning to a dumpster fire in my mentions
>I get shit wherever I go, but there's nothing wrong with me, it's everyone else who is an asshole
1 alien557 2018-06-24
Oh no people are spreading bullshit conspiracy theories and rumors about someone?
Oh my god, that is so unprecedented and shocking that it's just ... CHILLING. Holy shit yeah this really needs to be something we all know about otherwise how would we know about the UNHEARD OF act of rumor spreading and conspiracy bullshit on the internet.
/sarcasm
Seriously don't you have anything better to do than to act like this is something important and not just random background internet bullshit?
1 uniqueguy263 2018-06-24
It's not important but it's kinda funny. This male feminist shit is overplayed tho, MDEtards are just as rapey
1 bat_mayn 2018-06-24
What a retard - what is he trying to cover for? It's glaringly obvious he has some serious skeletons in his closet.
1 GrossFinger 2018-06-24
He'll never suffer, because he's a big time contributor to the Dem party, and feminist causes. And he's always played nice, and is a third generation screenwriter.
1 RicFlairIsGawd 2018-06-24
Ha! Fucking Anita, havent thought about her in a while. Ya'll notice how its always "Muh mentions!"
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-06-24
They targeted gamergaters
gamergaters
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-06-24
Who are these people?
1 HillaryDidNothnWrong 2018-06-24
everybody still invested in gaymergate should get tossed off a fucking cliff
1 PissFanatic 2018-06-24
Oh the "Bullshit conspiracies" are about how she was on stage (in power) and called an audience member "human garbage" and somehow a year on a statement has been released about how they shouldn't let meanie audience members into discussion panels of victimized woman....
Only crazed conspiracies seems to be the alternate reality Anita lives in.