Drama in /r/programming when a user claims that Python is a low-level language.

14  2018-06-28 by pitterpatterwater

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This is a really good troll.

I'm not sure if he's a troll or a true academic.

You know what is the main problem with this sub? You little shits are uneducated and dumb, and yet for whatever reason you think you're experts. It shows on the most hilarious level when you little ignorant shits try to bullshit about the PL theory.

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Scratch is the only low level language right now and you plebs dont even understand that

There's a small area between binary and machine code. That's where Scratch operates.

Get lost. Firstly, they're not people. They are pathetic code monkeys. There is absolutely no point in treating this lot like human beings, they are naturally incapable of understanding any rational arguments. Secondly, where did you see any insults? I provided some objective diagnosis. They objectively are uneducated brainless little shits. There is nothing you can do about this fact.

/u/combinatorylogic puts forward a far more convincing argument. He quite clearly explains his point on multiple occasions, albeit laced with hilarious copypasta worthy insults.

Most of everyone else seems to be latching on to his offensiveness to avoid actually addressing that they don't seem to be able to rebut the claim that "Python is a low level language".

/u/sharfpang and others; you guys, I think, certainly have failed to convey a good rebuttal that would convince anyone other than the apparent echo chamber. It's like somebody associated your beloved programming language with a perceived pejorative (low level) and you sperged out. It's surprising how many people seem to take this as some kind of insult in and of itself. Is there a language superiority movement in programming circles?

/u/oromier especially can't write a compelling counterpoint to save his life and the entirety of his side of the exchange can be summed up as "stfu no u".

On the other hand the fact you all 3 of you (and more) got this riled up over semantic definitions certainly speaks volumes for the sheer quantity of autism in /r/programming.

Mostly on reddit on mobile while commuting, I can't bring myself to argue online with someone about this :(

So "no u" is the best I can do.. :(

Honestly if you can't win a debate against someone who thinks python is a low level language you should reconsider your life choices. Also, didn't know it was combinatorylogic, he's an excellent troll.

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The point where something is low, or high level language, in my opinion is about the halfway point between machine code and problem concept, as measured in steps from the problem domain.

/u/combinatorylogic apparently has zero clue about how many layers of abstraction and conceptual steps lie between the syntax of python and the machine language. His threshold for 'low level' is somewhere around 85th percentile.

Combinatorylogic is the resident /r/programming lolcow

iirc the basic requirement to be a low level language is that it can be translated to machine code without a compiler or interpreter. That's not especially flexible. But at the same time, there is clearly a spectrum of some kind, with something like C often considered "mid-level".

puts forward a far more convincing argument.

It's like if a retard starts screeching about the sky being red. How can you not only explain that it's blue, but do so in a way that can convince him?

But the sky is red.

At sunset. Depending on where you are.

Thanks for proving my point.

It's such a nerd thing - they seem to think that specialized knowledge translates to general intelligence, so you get this confident assumption of superiority from people who can't formulate a sane argument to save their life.

But at the same time, of course Python is not a low level language.

This is the best drama I've seen in a while, thank you OP.

As if any programmer gives a shit and the distinction between "low-level" and "high-level" isn't anything other than arbitrary and meaningless.

Shit, when I was in school C++ was considered a high-level language.

Shit, when I was in school C++ was considered a high-level language.

that's good

It's important because Python takes like 10x the time it takes to run a C program.

I cringe when I hear cpython users talk about nodejs performance.

python 🤮