If these retards get the prickly ricklies in any movies because of "violence fetishism" then perhaps I should reccomend them My Little Pony or Barney, those have no violence, so /u/Jabroni_Avenue should enjoy.
I thought the movies violence was boring/pretty tame compared to the movie tbh. Yeah many of the complaints about the movie(Fetishism of violence, Muh octopus) tend to be banal and circlejerky as well.
Personally I thought movie was pretty decent, as well as it could've been made under 3 hours I guess. I just find it funny that even after decades of the author complaining about people admiring a certain character(who supposed to be a mockery right wing retards).
I just find it funny that even after decades of the author complaining about people admiring a certain character(who supposed to be a mockery right wing retards).
4/10, would have been better if you had called me an "incel" or an "asshat"
Oh no, a neckbeard and a retard is a very good definition for you. You not only mod a subreddit but mod r/Fuckmarvel of all places.(imagine being so obsessed with capeshit that you mod that sub of all places).
And you may not mod r/mcjcirclejerk you unironically shill for(and you even did in this thread kek).
Lol are you really denying that mcj is boring as shit these days? Its the same two jokes over and over again. Enjoying that sub is evidence of serious retardedness buddy, I'm just trying to fill a new niche.
See for all your grandstanding about being above capeshit, You in reality are nothing more than another capeshitter who is just butthurt that his favourite capeshit isn't popular
LOL digging through my comment history to find one positive comment about a cbm from a month ago? Who's the obsessive one again? You're really going the extra mile to pwn le DC Fanboys. If I was so committed to defending DC don't you think you would find some comments on DC_Cinematic? Use your head, retard.
So even going by your own logic you're still a pathetic retard who not only likes capeshit but also spends an unhealthy amount of time whining about it.
Dude your output in that one thread with you sperging out and getting /r/iamverysmart with mcugettingstale has a higher word count than all of /r/fuckmarvel. I don't know if you understand the image that /r/moviescirclejerk has, but if you've been posting there for over a year, you're not going to win an argument trying to make the other person out to be the arrogant/retarded one.
At the end of the day, if you post there, its because you enjoy feeling superior to other people because of their movie tastes, and you enjoy it so much that you're willing to hear the same two jokes over and over again. That's autism.
Also, I can't respond to your reply in mcj because they banned me, but you missed the point of my comments. DC fans can think Rorschach is cool without thinking that the stuff he does is cool irl. I think you're the one with unnuanced view of Rorschach. Alan Moore may be concerned with fans idolizing him, but he is still written in juxtaposition with the story's antagonist. So unless you think Moore is totally down with Veidt's plan of nuclear destruction, I don't think its really so unreasonable to see positive traits with Rorschach in the text itself. And authorial intent isn't an end-all for interpretation anyways, if you were handing this in as a paper for an intro to lit class, your professor would surely include that in the explanation for your C minus lol.
Lol are you really denying that mcj is boring as shit these days?
Not really, there's a reason I don't post there much anymore(it's basically TLJ defence force right now and as I said it's my first post there in over a year) but I don't think your sub will gain traction as well.
Even r/mcj at its peak didn't garner much followers but I don't care.
LOL digging through my comment history to find one positive comment about a cbm from a month ago? Who's the obsessive one again? You're really going the extra mile to pwn le DC Fanboys.
Of course an expected response. You lied about not liking superhero movies and tired to act like me liking one of them makes me somehow worse.
And who are you kidding, getting to that comment literally and objectively takes less than 5 minutes of going through your post history.
You like man of steel and it's your top 5 CBM.(which means you like a lot of them). You dislike the MCU, so do I but unlike you I've stopped bothering about them and decided to stop visiting r/movies, r/mcj and r/boxoffice because of star wars and marvel fanboys instead of wasting my creating and modding a sub specifically to shit on them.
Regardless, You got exposed as a hypocrite and a liar and instead of owning up to it you're using the lazy tired old argument of "you looked into my post history then you must be obsessed". Pathetic.
but if you've been posting there for over a year, you're not going to win an argument trying to make the other person out to be the arrogant/retarded one.
Learn to read, I said I haven't posted there in over a year.
Also, I can't respond to your reply in mcj because they banned me, but you missed the point of my comments. DC fans can think Rorschach is cool without thinking that the stuff he does is cool irl. I think you're the one with unnuanced view of Rorschach. Alan Moore may be concerned with fans idolizing him, but he is still written in juxtaposition with the story's antagonist.
Because of course, obviously if any shitty character is written as a protagonist it's probably O.K to think they're cool. I already gave you an example of a comment who thought Rorschach boiling a guy alive before delivering a cool dialogue only made said dialogue cooler but you probably intentionally ignored that. There are plenty who admire him because they think he is a badass because of his actions in the story and you won't believe how many times I've seen it on r/DC_Cinematic where people comment how Rorschach was right about the world.
You're more than welcome to think Tyler Durden or Rorschach is cool but don't act butthurt when people call you out on it and you can call me "unnuanced" for interpreting a character the way he was meant to be and written to be interpreted as and I couldn't care less.
See your issue isn't that I mocked to lazy interpretation, your issue that you assumed I am a MCU fanboy mocking your precious fandom and film and you decided to start shit because of it.
At the end of the day you're not above the console war
You got exposed as a hypocrite and a liar and instead of owning up to it you're using the lazy tired old argument of "you looked into my post history then you must be obsessed". Pathetic.
No, you exposed yourself as a hypocrite because you called me the obsessed one, and couldn't even find DC_Cinematic posts because I'm not. I like MoS, but if I were a DC fanboy you would be able to find posts there, end of story.
instead of wasting my creating and modding a sub specifically to shit on them.
LOL maybe you're such a mouthbreathing retard that such an endeavor would waste all your time, but its taken me like two minutes total.
You like man of steel and it's your top 5 CBM.(which means you like a lot of them).
Nope. Not the case at all. There are probably only five I would ever even rewatch, and I haven't seen MoS since like 2014.
Learn to read, I said I haven't posted there in over a year.
Lol if you posted there a year ago, and posted there now, then you've been posting there for over a year, and you liked it so much you went back. You're the biggest lolcow I've lured back to /r/drama looooool.
I already gave you an example of a comment who thought Rorschach boiling a guy alive before delivering a cool dialogue only made said dialogue cooler but you probably intentionally ignored that.
Totally irrelevant, its possible to think the scene is cool without missing the point that Rorschach is a brute.
There are plenty who admire him because they think he is a badass because of his actions in the story and you won't believe how many times I've seen it on r/DC_Cinematic where people comment how Rorschach was right about the world.
Well he was right in some sense. Dr. Manhattan, the omnipotent Godlike presence in the novel, even tells Veidt that his plan is short-sighted in the end. I don't think we're supposed to see a clear good guy or bad guy in the Veidt-Rorschach opposition. Just because Moore is concerned about fans idolizing Rorschach doesn't mean that every single thing about the character is negative.
the way he was meant to be
Reliance on authorial intent is a sure sign of an amateur. Its not an end-all in the interpretation process and treating it as such would get you a c-minus in most intro to lit courses.
your issue that you assumed I am a MCU fanboy mocking your precious fandom and film and you decided to start shit because of it.
No my issue is that your criticism of the fans in that sub is stupid.
At the end of the day you're not above the console war bullshit.
Neither are you, and my involvement is more interesting, because I'm not on a sub repeating the same tired posts over and over again!
No, you exposed yourself as a hypocrite because you called me the obsessed one, and couldn't even find DC_Cinematic posts because I'm not. I like MoS, but if I were a DC fanboy you would be able to find posts there, end of story.
Lmao, hey you said I was worse for liking a capeshit. Not being a fanboy of it , not posting on the DC sub.
It's exactly your logic. You explicitly stated you like capeshit. You're indeed a liar and a hypocrite.
LOL maybe you're such a mouthbreathing retard that such an endeavor would waste all your time, but its taken me like two minutes total.
Oh but I am obsessed for spending the same amount of time looking through your post history, how convenient.
Nope. Not the case at all. There are probably only five I would ever even rewatch, and I haven't seen MoS since like 2014.
Lol , mate you've said you**love MOS. *
Doesn't really matter, you've admitted to liking them, more than anything I've said about liking any capeshit.
Come on now how tell me how am I worse? So far because so I have said Watchmen was decent(so not even worth a rewatch) that's 1.
By your own admission you think there are 5 you would rewatch. Looks to me you're the more pathetic individual here.
Lol if you posted there a year ago, and posted there now, then you've been posting there for over a year, and you liked it so much you went back. You're the biggest lolcow I've lured back to /r/drama looooool.
I've been posting on r/drama before this dipshit and who are you kidding,You're the lolcow here , being exposed for blatant lying. It's very rare actually that the OP himself turns out to be a lolcow.
You're desperate to defend you're not a capeshit DC fanboy here.
Totally irrelevant, its possible to think the scene is cool without missing the point that Rorschach is a brute.
Not when said comment specifically thought it was cool because of said violence.
Reliance on authorial intent is a sure sign of an amateur.
That's why I said how it was written to be as well, it's funny how you left that part of my comment.
No my issue is that your criticism of the fans in that sub is stupid.
Nah it isn't, you tried to twist it and lie about it but only end up getting exposed as a moron that you're.
Neither are you, and my involvement is more interesting, because I'm not on a sub repeating the same tired posts over and over again!
You posted it here and the users pinged me and you hoped you could roast me for liking capeshit only to be exposed as a comicbook fanboy yourself.
Lmao, hey you said I was worse for liking a capeshit.
If I dislike the MCU and most of the DCEU then I only like a small fraction of the cbms over the past decade so we're all good.
Lol , mate you've said you**love MOS.
I haven't seen it in four years and it wouldn't even be like top 200 movies in general so idk what to tell you dude.
I've been posting on r/drama before this dipshit and who are you kidding,You're the lolcow here, being exposed for blatant lying. It's very rare actually that the OP himself turns out to be a lolcow.
Lol a season dramanaut would never be caught posting for karma on srd-movies edition and mouth-breathing their talking points. Keep commenting, we're milking this one for all its worth!
You're desperate to defend you're not a capeshit DC fanboy here.
Haven't seen any of them more than once except for Man of Steel, four years ago. Does this sound like a DC fanboy to you?
That's why I said how it was written to be as well
The crux of your argument is that Moore quote. You've said pretty much nothing to support your interpretation from the text itself. Are you honestly trying to say that Rorschach is 100% negatively portrayed? Yeah, you're the one without nuance here buddy.
Not when said comment specifically thought it was cool because of said violence.
Again, totally irrelevant. Liking violence on screen doesn't indicate a general admiration of violence. I can think that Achilles is a "badass" in the Iliad and enjoy the descriptions of battle scenes, even while knowing Homer doesn't really cast him in a favorable light.
Nah it isn't, you tried to twist it and lie about it
Its possible to think that its a cool line, cool scene, cool character etc., without thinking its cool to burn someone with burning oil irl.
This is what you're denying.
a moron that you're.
Lol maybe try reading your posts out loud to yourself before you writing retardation like this.
You posted it here and the users pinged me and you hoped you could roast me for liking capeshit only to be exposed as a comicbook fanboy yourself.
Again, I haven't seen any of these movies that supposedly make me a fanboy in years. You're the one karma-whoring on reddit's most boring metasub
If I dislike the MCU and most of the DCEU then I only like a small fraction of the cbms over the past decade so we're all good.
Again, I haven't seen any of these movies that supposedly make me a fanboy in years. You're the one karma-whoring on reddit's most boring metasub
I haven't seen it in four years and it wouldn't even be like top 200 movies in general so idk what to tell you dude.
Haven't seen any of them more than once except for Man of Steel, four years ago. Does this sound like a DC fanboy to you?
Neither would I but why are you dodging my question, you said I was worse for liking capeshit when I so far have admitted to thinking only watchmen was decent, expressed my dislike for the MCU(same as you) and the DCEU(that's obvious).
So now tell me, how am I worse?
Lol a season dramanaut would never be caught posting for karma on srd-movies edition and mouth-breathing their talking points. Keep commenting, we're milking this one for all its worth!
See no matter how much you throw r/drama terms like "milking the lolcow", you're not coming out of this looking good with your constant pathetic lying.
If you actually knew r/drama, you would realize we both would be called retards for this lengthy argument but yeah Mr.Seasoned dramamaut keep arguing without any sense of irony.
The crux of your argument is that Moore quote. You've said pretty much nothing to support your interpretation from the text itself.
I literally explained my reasons on before using that Moore quote but that shit is not important to you right now is it?
Its possible to think that its a cool line, cool scene, cool character etc., without thinking its cool to burn someone with burning oil irl.
Sigh, I already told you the user said the coolness factor increased because of said oil burning. So of course he thinks it is cool to burn someone in that scenario.
So that still means you like more number of capeshit than I do.
I seriously doubt that there is only one capeshit movie you like if you read mcj, which has basically become /r/shittycapeshitmemes. But sure, lets say you like one cbm and I like five. I'll take that over someone repeating the same boring shit on mcj.
Yet, you used to post there as well even before this particular fiasco lol.
Well yeah, when mcj goes against their normal jerk obviously I agree. Why would that be difficult for you to understand?
If you actually knew r/drama, you would realize we both would be called retards for this lengthy argument
Lol if you're digging up my comment history obviously you can see that I know the place pretty well since its my most commented sub. We're all autists here, but as you can see from the other comments here, no one likes mcj. So you kind of take the retard cake there.
I literally explained my reasons on before using the Moore quote but that got dismissed as pretentious word salad by the other user.
You explained poorly, since without relying on Moore's quote, its totally possible to see positive traits in Rorschach. Unless you think Veidt's extreme plan to avert nuclear annihilation is morally uncomplicated, Rorschach's final act of defiance can easily be seen as admirable, at least to a degree.
Sigh, I already told you the user said the coolness factor increased because of said oil burning. So of course he thinks it is cool to burn someone in that scenario.
How does this follow at all?
This shows a total lack of critical thinking on your part, which really isn't surprising given our exchange thus far. You're saying that because someone thinks that burning with oil on screen is cool, its admirable to burn someone with oil irl. My whole point is that this is not the case. You can think that the scene and character are cool, while not wanting to go boil someone in oil irl. I don't see how you can deny that. Again, you're really taking the lack of nuance cake here kid.
I seriously doubt that there is only one capeshit movie you like if you read mcj, which has basically become /r/shittycapeshitmemes.
I have repeatedly told you that the reason I stopped posting there is because it turned to shit. You sticked around and argued with them, I simply left. I only posted the current post because I assumed it would've somewhat changed.
But sure, lets say you like one cbm and I like five. I'll take that over someone repeating the same boring shit on mcj.
I honestly don't care whether you find what I posted boring or not and this is essentially moving goalposts, by your own initial premise you're indeed worse.
Well yeah, when mcj goes against their normal jerk, obviously I agree. Why would that be difficult for you to understand?
Well it still counts as posting there regardless of your reason.
And if going against their usual jerk is a sign of being better then I did the same thing by calling out one of their lame circlejerks in that very same thread.
Lol if you're digging up my comment history obviously you can see that I know the place pretty well since its my most commented sub.
Based on your comments here, It's pretty obvious that you don't.
We're all autists here, but as you can see from the other comments in this thread, no one likes mcj. So you kind of take the retard cake there.
How cute, you think people here are going call me bigger retard for browsing a shitty sub over your constant lying. Kek.
Here's a hint, many of the regulars here cross post on srd as well.
You explained poorly, since without relying on Moore's quote, its totally possible to see positive traits in Rorschach.
I explained adequately and I have also told you that people unlike what you're claiming aren't seeing some of actual positives but are confusing his negatives with positives.
This shows a total lack of critical thinking on your part, which really isn't surprising given our exchange thus far.
It's actually a lack of reading comprehension skills on your part. I said it's very likely that think said shit is cool but that you're giving them too much credit when saying "yeah they probably separate that shit".
You're in no position to talk about critical thinking when you don't even have the common sense to delete comments before making up a lie.
I only posted the current post because I assumed it would've somewhat changed.
How does this make any sense? Your post is perfectly in line with the mcj jerk for the last 4 years.
I honestly don't care whether you find what I posted there boring or not
Cool, doesn't make it not retarded or not boring.
by your own initial premise you're indeed worse.
My main "premise" has been that whoring out the conventional opinion on mcj is worse. If you genuinely hate capeshit more than me, then good on you, but it doesn't change the fact that your post is part of the most obnoxious circlejerk on reddit.
Well it still counts as posting there
yeah, I post on mcj when its good, which is almost never these days.
How cute, you think people here are going call me bigger retard for browsing a shitty sub over your constant lying.
Yeah, they actually probably would. And where is the lie? I said I hated capeshit, which is true, and you found a comment saying that I liked five capeshit movies out dozens (most of those aren't from the last ten years either lol). Its still pretty safe to say I hate the genre, especially in its current form.
I explained adequately and I have also told you that people unlike what you're claiming aren't seeing some of actual positives but are confusing his negatives with positives.
Really not seeing that in the linked thread. You like Rorschach's uncompromising attitude? That doesn't mean that you like vigilante violence irl. You like his fight scenes? That doesn't mean you think burning someone with oil is good. You are so literal-minded if you think it does.
but that you're giving them too much credit when saying "yeah they probably separate that shit".
Well you've given me no reason to think otherwise, so I don't know what to tell you bud
when you don't even have the common sense to delete comments before making up a lie.
Lol, so because I think that, say, Spiderman 2 and Superman (1978) are objectively pretty good means I'm lying when I say I hate capeshit? Ok man haha. I think I would actually rejoice if cbms were banned
How does this make any sense? Your post is perfectly in line with the mcj jerk for the last 4 years.
Just because there's one thing we agree doesn't mean, I agree with everything that goes on there or is that a concept too far fetched for you to understand.
Cool, doesn't make it not retarded or not boring.
It also doesn't change
My main "premise" has been that whoring out the conventional opinion on mcj is worse.
Yeah, they actually probably would. And where is the lie? I said I hated capeshit, which is true, and you found a comment saying that I liked five capeshit movies out dozens (most of those aren't from the last ten years either lol). Its still pretty safe to say I hate the genre, especially in its current form.
Lol, so because I think that, say, Spiderman 2 and Superman (1978) are objectively pretty good means I'm lying when I say I hate capeshit? Ok man haha. I think I would actually rejoice if cbms were banned
Nah , I am talking about the part where you said I am worse for liking it unlike you who hates it which is being a healthy part of society.
You're just backpedaling from your lie now saying that "you like some flicks but not the entire genre" because if that were indeed your thought process then why would you accuse me of liking the entire genre when I have to your knowledge said I've liked only one?
yeah, I post on mcj when its good, which is almost never these days.
Oh I didn't realize you said it was O.K to post there on good days. Oh wait no you didn't, you said a dramamaut wouldn't be caught dead posting there.
Really not seeing that in the linked thread. You like Rorschach's uncompromising attitude?
Maybe you forgot to read the part where I said his uncompromising attitude itself isn't supposed to be admired(not just when it comes to vigilantism).
Just because there's one thing we agree on doesn't mean I agree with everything that goes on there or is that a concept too far fetched for you to understand?
Again, this makes no sense. You said that you were posting in mcj because you thought it had changed. But that wouldn't be a reason for you to return if you were just posting something in line with their standard fare. I know you're going to come back with "muh reading comprehension" as an insult, but maybe try expressing your ideas a little more clearly.
So either A) You called me worse for liking one capeshit and you're a liar and a hypocrite B) You meant liking the whole genre but were too retarded to consider the possibility that I too could dislike the genre as well despite liking one film.
Buddy, if you hate all capeshit outside of Watchmen (which I doubt) then good on you, you're my hero. But don't blame me for making assumptions when i see you echoing the same old trite mcj talking points.
It also doesn't change the fact that it was just a desperate attempt to move goalposts.
It wasn't though, mcj being a boring circlejerk was the main part of my beef from the beginning, moreso than "hating capeshit", which I undeniably do.
Oh I didn't realize you meant it was O.K to post there on good days. Oh wait no you didn't, you said a dramamaut wouldn't be caught dead posting there.
No I said they wouldn't be caught dead posting there and towing the mcj line.
Maybe you forgot to read the part where I said his "never compromise" attitude itself isn't supposed to be admired
We're never going to see eye to eye on this but I think that's an oversimplification of the final showdown with Veidt. I already addressed this. Its possible to think of Rorschach as a loon, and still see something admirable in his character.
Again, this makes no sense. You said that you were posting in mcj because you thought it had changed. But that wouldn't be a reason for you to return if you were just posting something in line with their standard fare.
Because the last time I was there, it was people fighting over capeshit unironically. Now the frontpage was filled with TLJ posts.(though I didn't realize they were unironically upset over its reception).
Buddy, if you hate all capeshit outside of Watchmen (which I doubt) then good on you, you're my hero. But don't blame me for making assumptions when i see you echoing the same old trite mcj talking points.
It wasn't though, mcj being a boring circlejerk was the main part of my beef from the beginning, moreso than "hating capeshit", which I undeniably do.
While I was from the beginning making an argument about that specific point.
No I said they wouldn't be caught dead posting there and towing the mcj line.
Disliking the MCU (which your comment was) would also be towing the mcj line.(depending on the users active at the time)
We're never going to see eye to eye on this but I think that's an oversimplification of the final showdown with Veidt.
You're alright jabroni, I admire anyone willing to post their own autism to /r/drama.
it was people fighting over capeshit unironically. Now the frontpage was filled with TLJ posts.(though I didn't realize they were unironically upset over its reception).
Some common ground between us? This is part of the jerk I can stand, they sperg out so hard to defend that movie lol.
Really can't agree with this though:
Disliking the MCU (which your comment was) would also be towing the mcj line.(depending on the users active at the time)
People /uj/ all the time to gush over the mcu in mcj. It really has become this weird marriage of normies and contrarians.
That much is obvious.
Your interpretation is obvious? The status of Watchmen's climax as morally ambiguous is obvious? Or is it obvious we'll never see eye to eye?
You're alright jabroni, I admire anyone willing to post their own autism to /r/drama.
Then I apologize for calling you a retard.
People /uj/ all the time to gush over the mcu in mcj. It really has become this weird marriage of normies and contrarians.
I don't know how it has changed these days. When I was last there , most MCU related posts there were about mocking them for "political thriller" and "each MCU movie is a different genre" shit and shitting on their stand up -esque humor. As I've said it's been a while since I posted there.
No the whole point of watchmen wasn’t to look cool it was to mock it. It’s meant to a parody of superhero’s and life in America at that time. The violence and the way the characters act is meant to unsettle you in watchmen as the whole point of the story is that all these Superhero’s people look up to would be considered psychopaths in real life. Rorschach is meant to be a satire of Superhero’s like Batman.
That sub is trash. Movie Circlejerk and Gaming Circlejerk use the same two jokes over and over again and pat themselves on the back for how clever they think it is. You can literally count the Witcher 3 and Zack Synder / TLJ posts by the handful. Shit, even vanilla /r/Circlejerk with their Bernie Sanders shit is somehow less played out.
They have been using the Zack Snyder shit since literally the sub started. and for some reason they're still using it today even though you really have to go out of your way to find anyone defending him because the movies aren't even close to being newsworthy
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-07-05
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1 pvijay187 2018-07-05
I'm more nerdy than your average fellow but even I recoil at the weirdos in that thread
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-05
r/titlegore
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
No u
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-07-05
If these retards get the prickly ricklies in any movies because of "violence fetishism" then perhaps I should reccomend them My Little Pony or Barney, those have no violence, so /u/Jabroni_Avenue should enjoy.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
Lol they just banned me
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Where did I complain anything about "Violence Fetishism" friendo?
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-07-05
The rest of you guys were complaining about it, so how do I know you aren't any different?
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
I thought the movies violence was boring/pretty tame compared to the movie tbh. Yeah many of the complaints about the movie(Fetishism of violence, Muh octopus) tend to be banal and circlejerky as well.
Personally I thought movie was pretty decent, as well as it could've been made under 3 hours I guess. I just find it funny that even after decades of the author complaining about people admiring a certain character(who supposed to be a mockery right wing retards).
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-07-05
...what?
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Made an edit.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
4/10, would have been better if you had called me an "incel" or an "asshat"
Also, I don't mod /r/mcjcirclejerk. I would be honored to, though
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Oh no, a neckbeard and a retard is a very good definition for you. You not only mod a subreddit but mod r/Fuckmarvel of all places.(imagine being so obsessed with capeshit that you mod that sub of all places).
And you may not mod r/mcjcirclejerk you unironically shill for(and you even did in this thread kek).
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
Dude its going to be so lit though. Mcj is boring, its like the same two posts over and over. that's why /r/mcjcirclejerk is inevitable.
Pssshhh its better than being obsessed because you actually like it. Hating capeshit is a healthy and necessary activity in today's society.
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Sure thing buddy, keep up the good fight.
Oh noes I commented that I thought Watchmen was decent then I must like capeshit.
It's infinitely worse being obsessed because when I dislike capeshit (like marvel) I actually stop talking about it.
Nothing you do is healthy.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
Lol are you really denying that mcj is boring as shit these days? Its the same two jokes over and over again. Enjoying that sub is evidence of serious retardedness buddy, I'm just trying to fill a new niche.
LOL digging through my comment history to find one positive comment about a cbm from a month ago? Who's the obsessive one again? You're really going the extra mile to pwn le DC Fanboys. If I was so committed to defending DC don't you think you would find some comments on DC_Cinematic? Use your head, retard.
Dude your output in that one thread with you sperging out and getting /r/iamverysmart with mcugettingstale has a higher word count than all of /r/fuckmarvel. I don't know if you understand the image that /r/moviescirclejerk has, but if you've been posting there for over a year, you're not going to win an argument trying to make the other person out to be the arrogant/retarded one.
At the end of the day, if you post there, its because you enjoy feeling superior to other people because of their movie tastes, and you enjoy it so much that you're willing to hear the same two jokes over and over again. That's autism.
Also, I can't respond to your reply in mcj because they banned me, but you missed the point of my comments. DC fans can think Rorschach is cool without thinking that the stuff he does is cool irl. I think you're the one with unnuanced view of Rorschach. Alan Moore may be concerned with fans idolizing him, but he is still written in juxtaposition with the story's antagonist. So unless you think Moore is totally down with Veidt's plan of nuclear destruction, I don't think its really so unreasonable to see positive traits with Rorschach in the text itself. And authorial intent isn't an end-all for interpretation anyways, if you were handing this in as a paper for an intro to lit class, your professor would surely include that in the explanation for your C minus lol.
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Not really, there's a reason I don't post there much anymore(it's basically TLJ defence force right now and as I said it's my first post there in over a year) but I don't think your sub will gain traction as well.
Even r/mcj at its peak didn't garner much followers but I don't care.
Of course an expected response. You lied about not liking superhero movies and tired to act like me liking one of them makes me somehow worse.
And who are you kidding, getting to that comment literally and objectively takes less than 5 minutes of going through your post history.
You like man of steel and it's your top 5 CBM.(which means you like a lot of them). You dislike the MCU, so do I but unlike you I've stopped bothering about them and decided to stop visiting r/movies, r/mcj and r/boxoffice because of star wars and marvel fanboys instead of wasting my creating and modding a sub specifically to shit on them.
Regardless, You got exposed as a hypocrite and a liar and instead of owning up to it you're using the lazy tired old argument of "you looked into my post history then you must be obsessed". Pathetic.
Learn to read, I said I haven't posted there in over a year.
Because of course, obviously if any shitty character is written as a protagonist it's probably O.K to think they're cool. I already gave you an example of a comment who thought Rorschach boiling a guy alive before delivering a cool dialogue only made said dialogue cooler but you probably intentionally ignored that. There are plenty who admire him because they think he is a badass because of his actions in the story and you won't believe how many times I've seen it on r/DC_Cinematic where people comment how Rorschach was right about the world.
You're more than welcome to think Tyler Durden or Rorschach is cool but don't act butthurt when people call you out on it and you can call me "unnuanced" for interpreting a character the way he was meant to be and written to be interpreted as and I couldn't care less.
See your issue isn't that I mocked to lazy interpretation, your issue that you assumed I am a MCU fanboy mocking your precious fandom and film and you decided to start shit because of it.
At the end of the day you're not above the console war
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
No, you exposed yourself as a hypocrite because you called me the obsessed one, and couldn't even find DC_Cinematic posts because I'm not. I like MoS, but if I were a DC fanboy you would be able to find posts there, end of story.
LOL maybe you're such a mouthbreathing retard that such an endeavor would waste all your time, but its taken me like two minutes total.
Nope. Not the case at all. There are probably only five I would ever even rewatch, and I haven't seen MoS since like 2014.
Lol if you posted there a year ago, and posted there now, then you've been posting there for over a year, and you liked it so much you went back. You're the biggest lolcow I've lured back to /r/drama looooool.
Totally irrelevant, its possible to think the scene is cool without missing the point that Rorschach is a brute.
Well he was right in some sense. Dr. Manhattan, the omnipotent Godlike presence in the novel, even tells Veidt that his plan is short-sighted in the end. I don't think we're supposed to see a clear good guy or bad guy in the Veidt-Rorschach opposition. Just because Moore is concerned about fans idolizing Rorschach doesn't mean that every single thing about the character is negative.
Reliance on authorial intent is a sure sign of an amateur. Its not an end-all in the interpretation process and treating it as such would get you a c-minus in most intro to lit courses.
No my issue is that your criticism of the fans in that sub is stupid.
Neither are you, and my involvement is more interesting, because I'm not on a sub repeating the same tired posts over and over again!
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Lmao, hey you said I was worse for liking a capeshit. Not being a fanboy of it , not posting on the DC sub.
It's exactly your logic. You explicitly stated you like capeshit. You're indeed a liar and a hypocrite.
Oh but I am obsessed for spending the same amount of time looking through your post history, how convenient.
Lol , mate you've said you**love MOS. *
Doesn't really matter, you've admitted to liking them, more than anything I've said about liking any capeshit.
Come on now how tell me how am I worse? So far because so I have said Watchmen was decent(so not even worth a rewatch) that's 1.
By your own admission you think there are 5 you would rewatch. Looks to me you're the more pathetic individual here.
I've been posting on r/drama before this dipshit and who are you kidding,You're the lolcow here , being exposed for blatant lying. It's very rare actually that the OP himself turns out to be a lolcow.
You're desperate to defend you're not a capeshit DC fanboy here.
Not when said comment specifically thought it was cool because of said violence.
That's why I said how it was written to be as well, it's funny how you left that part of my comment.
Nah it isn't, you tried to twist it and lie about it but only end up getting exposed as a moron that you're.
You posted it here and the users pinged me and you hoped you could roast me for liking capeshit only to be exposed as a comicbook fanboy yourself.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
If I dislike the MCU and most of the DCEU then I only like a small fraction of the cbms over the past decade so we're all good.
I haven't seen it in four years and it wouldn't even be like top 200 movies in general so idk what to tell you dude.
Lol a season dramanaut would never be caught posting for karma on srd-movies edition and mouth-breathing their talking points. Keep commenting, we're milking this one for all its worth!
Haven't seen any of them more than once except for Man of Steel, four years ago. Does this sound like a DC fanboy to you?
The crux of your argument is that Moore quote. You've said pretty much nothing to support your interpretation from the text itself. Are you honestly trying to say that Rorschach is 100% negatively portrayed? Yeah, you're the one without nuance here buddy.
Again, totally irrelevant. Liking violence on screen doesn't indicate a general admiration of violence. I can think that Achilles is a "badass" in the Iliad and enjoy the descriptions of battle scenes, even while knowing Homer doesn't really cast him in a favorable light.
Its possible to think that its a cool line, cool scene, cool character etc., without thinking its cool to burn someone with burning oil irl.
This is what you're denying.
Lol maybe try reading your posts out loud to yourself before you writing retardation like this.
Again, I haven't seen any of these movies that supposedly make me a fanboy in years. You're the one karma-whoring on reddit's most boring metasub
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Neither would I but why are you dodging my question, you said I was worse for liking capeshit when I so far have admitted to thinking only watchmen was decent, expressed my dislike for the MCU(same as you) and the DCEU(that's obvious).
So now tell me, how am I worse?
Yet, you used to post there as well even before this particular fiasco lol.
See no matter how much you throw r/drama terms like "milking the lolcow", you're not coming out of this looking good with your constant pathetic lying.
If you actually knew r/drama, you would realize we both would be called retards for this lengthy argument but yeah Mr.Seasoned dramamaut keep arguing without any sense of irony.
I literally explained my reasons on before using that Moore quote but that shit is not important to you right now is it?
Sigh, I already told you the user said the coolness factor increased because of said oil burning. So of course he thinks it is cool to burn someone in that scenario.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
I seriously doubt that there is only one capeshit movie you like if you read mcj, which has basically become /r/shittycapeshitmemes. But sure, lets say you like one cbm and I like five. I'll take that over someone repeating the same boring shit on mcj.
Well yeah, when mcj goes against their normal jerk obviously I agree. Why would that be difficult for you to understand?
Lol if you're digging up my comment history obviously you can see that I know the place pretty well since its my most commented sub. We're all autists here, but as you can see from the other comments here, no one likes mcj. So you kind of take the retard cake there.
You explained poorly, since without relying on Moore's quote, its totally possible to see positive traits in Rorschach. Unless you think Veidt's extreme plan to avert nuclear annihilation is morally uncomplicated, Rorschach's final act of defiance can easily be seen as admirable, at least to a degree.
How does this follow at all?
This shows a total lack of critical thinking on your part, which really isn't surprising given our exchange thus far. You're saying that because someone thinks that burning with oil on screen is cool, its admirable to burn someone with oil irl. My whole point is that this is not the case. You can think that the scene and character are cool, while not wanting to go boil someone in oil irl. I don't see how you can deny that. Again, you're really taking the lack of nuance cake here kid.
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
I have repeatedly told you that the reason I stopped posting there is because it turned to shit. You sticked around and argued with them, I simply left. I only posted the current post because I assumed it would've somewhat changed.
I honestly don't care whether you find what I posted boring or not and this is essentially moving goalposts, by your own initial premise you're indeed worse.
Well it still counts as posting there regardless of your reason.
And if going against their usual jerk is a sign of being better then I did the same thing by calling out one of their lame circlejerks in that very same thread.
Based on your comments here, It's pretty obvious that you don't.
How cute, you think people here are going call me bigger retard for browsing a shitty sub over your constant lying. Kek.
Here's a hint, many of the regulars here cross post on srd as well.
I explained adequately and I have also told you that people unlike what you're claiming aren't seeing some of actual positives but are confusing his negatives with positives.
It's actually a lack of reading comprehension skills on your part. I said it's very likely that think said shit is cool but that you're giving them too much credit when saying "yeah they probably separate that shit".
You're in no position to talk about critical thinking when you don't even have the common sense to delete comments before making up a lie.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
How does this make any sense? Your post is perfectly in line with the mcj jerk for the last 4 years.
Cool, doesn't make it not retarded or not boring.
My main "premise" has been that whoring out the conventional opinion on mcj is worse. If you genuinely hate capeshit more than me, then good on you, but it doesn't change the fact that your post is part of the most obnoxious circlejerk on reddit.
yeah, I post on mcj when its good, which is almost never these days.
Yeah, they actually probably would. And where is the lie? I said I hated capeshit, which is true, and you found a comment saying that I liked five capeshit movies out dozens (most of those aren't from the last ten years either lol). Its still pretty safe to say I hate the genre, especially in its current form.
Really not seeing that in the linked thread. You like Rorschach's uncompromising attitude? That doesn't mean that you like vigilante violence irl. You like his fight scenes? That doesn't mean you think burning someone with oil is good. You are so literal-minded if you think it does.
Well you've given me no reason to think otherwise, so I don't know what to tell you bud
Lol, so because I think that, say, Spiderman 2 and Superman (1978) are objectively pretty good means I'm lying when I say I hate capeshit? Ok man haha. I think I would actually rejoice if cbms were banned
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Just because there's one thing we agree doesn't mean, I agree with everything that goes on there or is that a concept too far fetched for you to understand.
It also doesn't change
Nah , I am talking about the part where you said I am worse for liking it unlike you who hates it which is being a healthy part of society.
You're just backpedaling from your lie now saying that "you like some flicks but not the entire genre" because if that were indeed your thought process then why would you accuse me of liking the entire genre when I have to your knowledge said I've liked only one?
Oh I didn't realize you said it was O.K to post there on good days. Oh wait no you didn't, you said a dramamaut wouldn't be caught dead posting there.
Maybe you forgot to read the part where I said his uncompromising attitude itself isn't supposed to be admired(not just when it comes to vigilantism).
1 bobbybonnadouchey 2018-07-05
Daily reminder that Mystery Men is the only good live action capeshit.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
people give Shrek the credit for "All Star" by Smash Mouth, but it was really first utilized in Mystery Men
1 bobbybonnadouchey 2018-07-05
Thanks for this information
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
Again, this makes no sense. You said that you were posting in mcj because you thought it had changed. But that wouldn't be a reason for you to return if you were just posting something in line with their standard fare. I know you're going to come back with "muh reading comprehension" as an insult, but maybe try expressing your ideas a little more clearly.
Buddy, if you hate all capeshit outside of Watchmen (which I doubt) then good on you, you're my hero. But don't blame me for making assumptions when i see you echoing the same old trite mcj talking points.
It wasn't though, mcj being a boring circlejerk was the main part of my beef from the beginning, moreso than "hating capeshit", which I undeniably do.
No I said they wouldn't be caught dead posting there and towing the mcj line.
We're never going to see eye to eye on this but I think that's an oversimplification of the final showdown with Veidt. I already addressed this. Its possible to think of Rorschach as a loon, and still see something admirable in his character.
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Because the last time I was there, it was people fighting over capeshit unironically. Now the frontpage was filled with TLJ posts.(though I didn't realize they were unironically upset over its reception).
Buddy, if you hate all capeshit outside of Watchmen (which I doubt) then good on you, you're my hero. But don't blame me for making assumptions when i see you echoing the same old trite mcj talking points.
While I was from the beginning making an argument about that specific point.
Disliking the MCU (which your comment was) would also be towing the mcj line.(depending on the users active at the time)
That much is obvious.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
You're alright jabroni, I admire anyone willing to post their own autism to /r/drama.
Some common ground between us? This is part of the jerk I can stand, they sperg out so hard to defend that movie lol.
Really can't agree with this though:
People /uj/ all the time to gush over the mcu in mcj. It really has become this weird marriage of normies and contrarians.
Your interpretation is obvious? The status of Watchmen's climax as morally ambiguous is obvious? Or is it obvious we'll never see eye to eye?
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Then I apologize for calling you a retard.
I don't know how it has changed these days. When I was last there , most MCU related posts there were about mocking them for "political thriller" and "each MCU movie is a different genre" shit and shitting on their stand up -esque humor. As I've said it's been a while since I posted there.
That we'll never see eye to eye on it.
1 lifesbrink 2018-07-05
Imagine serious posting so hard about shit on the internet
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
It happens to the best of us.
1 Heydammit 2018-07-05
You're both retards.
1 Jabroni_Avenue 2018-07-05
Thank you for proving my point.
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1 Goulielmos 2018-07-05
No the whole point of watchmen wasn’t to look cool it was to mock it. It’s meant to a parody of superhero’s and life in America at that time. The violence and the way the characters act is meant to unsettle you in watchmen as the whole point of the story is that all these Superhero’s people look up to would be considered psychopaths in real life. Rorschach is meant to be a satire of Superhero’s like Batman.
1 Re_LE_Vant_UN 2018-07-05
That sub is trash. Movie Circlejerk and Gaming Circlejerk use the same two jokes over and over again and pat themselves on the back for how clever they think it is. You can literally count the Witcher 3 and Zack Synder / TLJ posts by the handful. Shit, even vanilla /r/Circlejerk with their Bernie Sanders shit is somehow less played out.
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
Yeah lol they have always been arrogant pricks, but they had a lot of different jokes circa 2013. Now its pretty much just the two that you mentioned
1 Re_LE_Vant_UN 2018-07-05
They have been using the Zack Snyder shit since literally the sub started. and for some reason they're still using it today even though you really have to go out of your way to find anyone defending him because the movies aren't even close to being newsworthy
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-07-05
also obligatory shill for /r/mcjcirclejerk and /r/Fuckmarvel.