On a related note, what moron thinks a 13 year old needs to know about STD's.
On a further related notes, there is no evidence that there is some sort of social malaise affecting youth that they require Marxist-style doctrine of "there is one person needing a cure, let's give it to all".
what moron thinks a 13 year old needs to know about STD's?
I do. I had sex for the first time when I just turned 14. I learned about STD's and contraception when I was 11~12. If it wasn't for that, and my parents not being uptight about sex, I would have a kid now.
No, there isn’t.
Why would there need to be? Kids need to learn about it at some point, why not learn it when they are becoming of sexual age or whatever that's called.
The 8 year old bit and the smh at the end. Maybe if you had been a little more subtle and argued that it was education pushed that age so low idk, perhaps I had taken another lick and actually linked some teenage pregnancy stats in order to show how not triggered I was
Not just for funsies at all. After children are made aware where children come from (by adults, rumors from other children don't count), they turn into ravenous sex beasts eager to satisfy any progressive politician that preys on them in pizzerias and the like.
No one blames you for being raped by your uncle multiple times when you were a child. It's not your fault. You don't need to be so hateful, especially not towards yourself.
You've completely lost your mind. You just stalked me into nearly a dozen other subreddits after trolling my post history and attacked me in all of them.
I'll take this as a sign that I've won. What a sad, pathetic, hateful person you are. I feel sorry for you and I hope you get the help you need.
It’s pretty nuts. I was particularly surprised to learn that first graders learn the parts of genitals.
Having worked with kids in the past, we were taught that a sign of sexual abuse was if a kid knows a lot about sex and genital parts. It’s one thing if a kid says “my privates hurt” but it’s a bit of a red flag if a kid starts talking about the scrotum or labia.
It’s entirely unnecessary because it is so subjective – oh, yes, MY kid is going to be a fucker at 14 so, yeah. Plus, did I say he’s a boy! On a flip side, I have yet to see a parent who cannot wait for his little daughter to have at least five sexual partners by end of high school.
I mean, the whole thing is such a bullshit of people disinterested in realities of life and far out on spectrum scale.
However, there are strange forces ta play.
Certain part of the society – including professionals, intellectuals, educational classes and wannabe enlightened hipsters – has grand ideas about confirming the society to the outliers.
Essentially, the plan is, in order for social outliers – say, a troubled teen from a broken home who was left alone to struggle with pressures of society – to feel good about themselves, we will fuck up the rest of the bell curve. No, we’re not going to offer individual attention because that would require nuance and effort. We will make you feel what they feel so that you cannot pass a day in your life with joy in your heart because someone, somewhere has it bad.
That’s what they refer to when they say Marxist indoctrination of social order in North America.
I'd think a kid who'd been abused would more likely talk about their "pussy" than their labia. What's the freak out about kids learning the proper words for their body parts anyway?
I think so. I think predators use the fact that we are taught to feel shame about our 'privates'. More likely the victim can be convinced the abuse should be a secret.
"The Lost Children of Rockdale County" explores how a 1996 syphilis outbreak in a well-off Atlanta suburb affected over 200 teenagers and revealed their lives unknown to parents: group sex, binge drinking, drugs and violence. Some were as young as twelve and thirteen years old.
For reference, Ontario is 918,000 km squared and has a population of 13 million. That's bigger than Texas with less than half the population. It's a very diverse province with urban areas like Toronto and Ottawa and rural areas, so STD education will definitely apply to a wide variety of students.
Why the fuck shouldn't kids learn about STDs you retard? 13 is right about the time a lot of kids start doing consentual shit. Besides, they learn about the harms of smoking and drinking too despite being underaged retards
Alright, I'm going to give an honest answer. I work in hard neighborhoods. 12-13 is too late. The average age of menarche is between 12 and 13 years of age in the United States. Now consider that it takes time to teach this stuff, and average just covers the midpoint between the extremes. The distribution of ages is terrifying - depending on local fat and hormonal loads, up to 10% of 10 year olds can possibly bear children (don't tell /u/yameteoniichan).
You have to start education before the kids need it. You need to make sure they know that it's not "just pretend" or whatever the pedos lolicons are coming up with.
Ontario’s government plans to roll back the sex Ed curriculum of students to the standard set in 1998. The new curriculum set back in 2016 updated a lot of the content including identifying sexual abuse, consent, and sexting.
However this came along with controversial ideas such as teaching 1st graders how to identify body parts including genitals, gender identity and sexuality in 8th grade, as well as discussing masturbation.
If you ask me, it’s high time we rev up some leafblowers and start the day of the rake.
In my opinion sex ed is lousy in high school. As a kid, no student takes it seriously. As a teen, the teacher doesnt take it seriously. Just show how to put a condom on a banana and call it a day. Unfortunately no one has this radical idea to teach teens how to safely have sex and teaching it to 6 year olds is creepy male feminist behaviour.
My school did that, but the drama teacher, who looked exactly like what alt right people say soyboys look like btw, instead brought in his dildos, one black and one white, and had us put them on it. It was super weird and no one took it seriously. For the record, I'm not being ironic at all here
In my school they hired a sex educator to come in for a lesson - it was actually awesome because it was their actual job to teach sex ed to children. I remember it was pretty funny and not awkward. She had us write all the questions we had anonymously then answered them - this was like 8th grade. I wish all schools could afford to hire a pro.
Of all the stupid things liberals have done, the gender wars have got to be the dumbest. The people who really get passionate about this crap are a tiny minority. There aren’t enough of them to win you an election, but they’re obnoxious enough that they can absolutely drive people away from you. We wouldn’t have heard of Jordan Peterson if not for them.
You know, identifying as something conservatives didn’t understand. It was an act of warfare that the poor innocent right wing had no choice but to defend themselves against lest everyone feel comfortable in their own skin.
But if we give children accurate information they won't believe the inaccurate information we give them and more importantly they may begin to doubt any information we give them!
Goddam, what a bunch of fucking prudes. This is what reactionaries do. Can't be arsed to make a new curriculum that updates the old one in a way they find acceptable. Naw, let's just roll the clock back 20 years.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-07-12
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1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
Not a single person there read either of those.
Both camps are ideologically driven nutjobs.
On a related note, what moron thinks a 13 year old needs to know about STD's.
On a further related notes, there is no evidence that there is some sort of social malaise affecting youth that they require Marxist-style doctrine of "there is one person needing a cure, let's give it to all".
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
I do. I had sex for the first time when I just turned 14. I learned about STD's and contraception when I was 11~12. If it wasn't for that, and my parents not being uptight about sex, I would have a kid now.
Why would there need to be? Kids need to learn about it at some point, why not learn it when they are becoming of sexual age or whatever that's called.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
You seem to be under self-imposed idea that YOU are the standard. Why not at 8 years old?
Heck, as soon as they step in JK… fuck books and things to learn about trees and shit…
smh
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
Well damn GG. Guess I was hungry
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
At what point did you realize lollipop with no sugar may not be a lollipop?
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
The 8 year old bit and the smh at the end. Maybe if you had been a little more subtle and argued that it was education pushed that age so low idk, perhaps I had taken another lick and actually linked some teenage pregnancy stats in order to show how not triggered I was
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
There is no teenage pregnancy problem in Ontario whatsoever.
There is no teenage STD's problem in Ontario.
It's all just for funsies...
1 zergling_Lester 2018-07-12
Not just for funsies at all. After children are made aware where children come from (by adults, rumors from other children don't count), they turn into ravenous sex beasts eager to satisfy any progressive politician that preys on them in pizzerias and the like.
1 Think_Once 2018-07-12
There is a certain trend. For example Syphilis infections for male teens are up over 300% in the last year's.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3806635/sti-rates-teens-canada/
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
lol
Here's a quote from a teenager
But muah Sex Ed - lol
1 Think_Once 2018-07-12
But muah old Sex Ed - lol
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
So...
1 Think_Once 2018-07-12
Clearly the old one worked wonders.
1 CollaWars 2018-07-12
You are imposing your own standard. Sorry they are people that have had sex at 13
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
As I said, there is no teen pregnancy epidemic.
STD's for teens under 14 are non-existent.
In fact, teen pregnancy and sexual activity is related more to poverty and culture both of which school cannot resolve.
1 rakkar16 2018-07-12
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Feel free to guess which countries have the most progressive sex ed programs.
1 Not_RCMP_ 2018-07-12
Id hardly call what your uncle did to you sex but ok
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
Fuck off rape apologizer.
1 Not_RCMP_ 2018-07-12
I never apologize for rape.
I brag about it
1 SlowPlasma9 2018-07-12
No one blames you for being raped by your uncle multiple times when you were a child. It's not your fault. You don't need to be so hateful, especially not towards yourself.
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
Says you? :D You come here from another topic where you're being butthurt and calling me a trump supporter :D
1 SlowPlasma9 2018-07-12
Butthurt? You keep calling me "retard" and trying to convince me that I'm a racist who hates black people like you do.
I think it's pretty clear that one of us is butthurt, and it's definitely not me...
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
You can't explain that
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1 SlowPlasma9 2018-07-12
lol sad
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
where
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
Have a good night now bby 😚😘😍😚
1 SlowPlasma9 2018-07-12
You've completely lost your mind. You just stalked me into nearly a dozen other subreddits after trolling my post history and attacked me in all of them.
I'll take this as a sign that I've won. What a sad, pathetic, hateful person you are. I feel sorry for you and I hope you get the help you need.
1 ButtersBootyBounty 2018-07-12
Uhuh. And you're still too being retarded to see what is going on. Did you try whiping that drool out of your eyes?
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2018-07-12
miss me with that straight shit
1 gumble212 2018-07-12
Chad begone
1 OniTan 2018-07-12
Puberty?
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-07-12
damn, beat me :(
time to turn incel out of shame
1 EasySchmitty 2018-07-12
It’s pretty nuts. I was particularly surprised to learn that first graders learn the parts of genitals.
Having worked with kids in the past, we were taught that a sign of sexual abuse was if a kid knows a lot about sex and genital parts. It’s one thing if a kid says “my privates hurt” but it’s a bit of a red flag if a kid starts talking about the scrotum or labia.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
It’s entirely unnecessary because it is so subjective – oh, yes, MY kid is going to be a fucker at 14 so, yeah. Plus, did I say he’s a boy! On a flip side, I have yet to see a parent who cannot wait for his little daughter to have at least five sexual partners by end of high school.
I mean, the whole thing is such a bullshit of people disinterested in realities of life and far out on spectrum scale.
However, there are strange forces ta play.
Certain part of the society – including professionals, intellectuals, educational classes and wannabe enlightened hipsters – has grand ideas about confirming the society to the outliers.
Essentially, the plan is, in order for social outliers – say, a troubled teen from a broken home who was left alone to struggle with pressures of society – to feel good about themselves, we will fuck up the rest of the bell curve. No, we’re not going to offer individual attention because that would require nuance and effort. We will make you feel what they feel so that you cannot pass a day in your life with joy in your heart because someone, somewhere has it bad.
That’s what they refer to when they say Marxist indoctrination of social order in North America.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-12
What type of pedos are technical enough to use "labia" instead of slang? It's more likely said child has a plastic surgeon as a relative.
1 parameciidae 2018-07-12
I'd think a kid who'd been abused would more likely talk about their "pussy" than their labia. What's the freak out about kids learning the proper words for their body parts anyway?
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-12
Religious nuts being nutballs. Personally I think teaching the medical terms is a great way to educate kids without putting sex on a pedestal.
1 parameciidae 2018-07-12
Right? In what world do we not want a first grader to know what their scrotum or vagina is called?
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-12
Also doesn't them knowing that make them less likely to fall to predators?
1 parameciidae 2018-07-12
I think so. I think predators use the fact that we are taught to feel shame about our 'privates'. More likely the victim can be convinced the abuse should be a secret.
1 OniTan 2018-07-12
Pretty sure my class learned the genitalia in grade 4.
1 EasySchmitty 2018-07-12
That explains the murder spree 🤔
1 cruelandusual 2018-07-12
lol, you can't possibly be that stupid for real.
It has always been a problem in places where kids fuck their relatives, ie. red states:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/etc/synopsis.html
1 newcomer_ts 2018-07-12
This is Ontario, Canada we are talking about.
No, u
1 wumbo17412 2018-07-12
Northern Ontario is full of sisterfisters
1 OniTan 2018-07-12
For reference, Ontario is 918,000 km squared and has a population of 13 million. That's bigger than Texas with less than half the population. It's a very diverse province with urban areas like Toronto and Ottawa and rural areas, so STD education will definitely apply to a wide variety of students.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-12
You obviously didn't go to a trash school. The thot mentality starts young.
1 bijinchan 2018-07-12
Roasties and Chads are having sex earlier and earlier.
1 Peepeeopsis 2018-07-12
Why the fuck shouldn't kids learn about STDs you retard? 13 is right about the time a lot of kids start doing consentual shit. Besides, they learn about the harms of smoking and drinking too despite being underaged retards
1 captainktainer 2018-07-12
Alright, I'm going to give an honest answer. I work in hard neighborhoods. 12-13 is too late. The average age of menarche is between 12 and 13 years of age in the United States. Now consider that it takes time to teach this stuff, and average just covers the midpoint between the extremes. The distribution of ages is terrifying - depending on local fat and hormonal loads, up to 10% of 10 year olds can possibly bear children (don't tell /u/yameteoniichan).
You have to start education before the kids need it. You need to make sure they know that it's not "just pretend" or whatever the
pedoslolicons are coming up with.1 KingWayneX 2018-07-12
No condom + sex = baby&|abortion (wait, thats a good thing tho)&|std. An instructional session isnt at all necessary.
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-07-12
this is even too retarded a comment for me, even if i was drunk and posting stream of consciousness gibberish. see here: https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats16/adolescents.htm
1 EasySchmitty 2018-07-12
Not a leaf but based on research conducted
Ontario’s government plans to roll back the sex Ed curriculum of students to the standard set in 1998. The new curriculum set back in 2016 updated a lot of the content including identifying sexual abuse, consent, and sexting.
However this came along with controversial ideas such as teaching 1st graders how to identify body parts including genitals, gender identity and sexuality in 8th grade, as well as discussing masturbation.
If you ask me, it’s high time we rev up some leafblowers and start the day of the rake.
1 rakkar16 2018-07-12
Maybe it's because I'm from Yurop but most of that doesn't really seem strange or extreme to me.
1 EasySchmitty 2018-07-12
I think a lot of people were thinking they were teaching kids how to masturbate rather than discussing it as a safe alternative to sex.
There was some outrage about oral and anal sex too but I couldn’t find anything on that.
1 xcallmesunshine 2018-07-12
Also had European sex ed and same - they even told us what foreplay was
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-07-12
That's 12-14 years old in civilised units.
I seriously don't see the issue with this, sex ed is given to 11 yo here.
1 CucksLoveTrump 2018-07-12
This is in Canada you jackass
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2018-07-12
>Implying there is a difference.
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1 yourpostisfairgame 2018-07-12
What, you don’t think Canadians have an obesity problem and eat hamburgers?
1 aef823 2018-07-12
Canada is pretty much America trying to not be an asshole while somehow being a bigger asshole but nobody gives a shit because it's Canada.
1 Gtyyler 2018-07-12
In my opinion sex ed is lousy in high school. As a kid, no student takes it seriously. As a teen, the teacher doesnt take it seriously. Just show how to put a condom on a banana and call it a day. Unfortunately no one has this radical idea to teach teens how to safely have sex and teaching it to 6 year olds is creepy male feminist behaviour.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-07-12
My school did that, but the drama teacher, who looked exactly like what alt right people say soyboys look like btw, instead brought in his dildos, one black and one white, and had us put them on it. It was super weird and no one took it seriously. For the record, I'm not being ironic at all here
1 richmomz 2018-07-12
Hope he washed them before he let the kids play with them.
1 saddertadder 2018-07-12
Um no sweaty, thats how you spread the gift!
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2018-07-12
please tell me the dildos were comically large
1 xcallmesunshine 2018-07-12
In my school they hired a sex educator to come in for a lesson - it was actually awesome because it was their actual job to teach sex ed to children. I remember it was pretty funny and not awkward. She had us write all the questions we had anonymously then answered them - this was like 8th grade. I wish all schools could afford to hire a pro.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-12
Of all the stupid things liberals have done, the gender wars have got to be the dumbest. The people who really get passionate about this crap are a tiny minority. There aren’t enough of them to win you an election, but they’re obnoxious enough that they can absolutely drive people away from you. We wouldn’t have heard of Jordan Peterson if not for them.
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-07-12
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
1 SethRichOrDieTryin 2018-07-12
😴😴😴
1 TheHeroReditDeserves 2018-07-12
Gottum
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-07-12
gollum
1 parameciidae 2018-07-12
👨🏻🎓🤤
1 saddertadder 2018-07-12
Clean your room while I dont clean mine
1 crabvogel 2018-07-12
What do you mean with the gender wars that the liberals did?
1 yourpostisfairgame 2018-07-12
You know, identifying as something conservatives didn’t understand. It was an act of warfare that the poor innocent right wing had no choice but to defend themselves against lest everyone feel comfortable in their own skin.
1 crabvogel 2018-07-12
Pretty sure the chance that you're born as a transsexual is just as big when you are a Conservative
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-12
No. What I’m saying is it was a stupid decision to defend an unpopular minority that can’t reward you by swinging an election your way.
1 nithingpole 2018-07-12
For people who are obsessed with consent, they sure don't care if the parents do.
1 dootwiththesickness 2018-07-12
TBH if the parents are retards then I don’t give a damn if they consent or not. Their kids are being educated and they can cry in Albertan.
1 nithingpole 2018-07-12
Consent only matters if the person isn't a retard? How many have you raped?
1 wwyzzerdd 2018-07-12
But if we give children accurate information they won't believe the inaccurate information we give them and more importantly they may begin to doubt any information we give them!
1 buttthirst 2018-07-12
Implying leafs weren't already insuffereable
1 pepperouchau 2018-07-12
We should be doing whatever encourages leafs to multiply the least
1 Coco_Bandicock 2018-07-12
I don't get the point of sex Ed. Kids are just going to look up porn and shit like that anyways so what's the point?
1 parameciidae 2018-07-12
Goddam, what a bunch of fucking prudes. This is what reactionaries do. Can't be arsed to make a new curriculum that updates the old one in a way they find acceptable. Naw, let's just roll the clock back 20 years.
1 LemonScore_ 2018-07-12
I had a discussion with someone the other day who was glad this was happening because schools were "leftist indoctrination centres"
/u/TheGriffinAlberta Sounds pretty accurate.