/u/bubbleblonde108 have you kept forcefeeding your child alcohol after he’s out of your body? Or does he still not get the privilege of not guzzling poison.
That's fucking retarded. Beer is hardly higher in iron than whatever water source it is brewed with. My grandma used to rub bourbon on my dad's gums when he was teething. We don't do that anymore, either.
It used to be an advertising campaign of Guinness many decades ago. I think it was dropped after science proved it fake but the myth continues. Even amongst Doctors, much the same way the spinach one does.
Guinness contains around 0.3mg of iron per pint, which isn’t significant enough to be of any health benefit, whether you’ve just donated blood or not. Men need 8.7mg per day, while women need 14.8mg.
science proved it fake but the myth continues. Even amongst Doctors, much the same way the spinach one does.
Hey, fuck you man. Spinach is the real deal. If you eat a can of spinach you instantly become muscular and an animated battleship appears on your bicep. Pop-Eye would never lie to me.
Guiness has 0.3mg of iron per pint, while the daily recommended value for women is 14.8mg, therefore a standard serving of 50 pints of Guiness contains enough iron for a pregnant woman for an entire day.
This isn’t an American centric trait at all, people do this world wide. My grandma always suggested a hot cup of tea with a splash of red wine for period cramps starting when I was about 12, she’s from Poland.
kinda crazy how to effects of drinking while pregnant are well studied and have very obvious physical signs yet these women feel like it's their right to churn out tard babies because they have no willpower.
Let's not say women. A lot of women, most women world wide, work hard to be good mothers.
A small percentage of mostly American women fuck their kids up because they can't stop drinking. They should be shamed. Pretending it's all women lets these worthless assholes get away with it.
I think for some of them it's some kind of 'grrl power fight the patriarchy' protest thing but in the end the only thing they're fighting is their kid's GPA.
Nah he won because the left managed to actually stoop to his level of retardation while running the least charasmatic and most tainted candidate ever.
Notice how that whole thread is reeing about "muh body muh choice" when it literally comes to poisoning a baby they fully intend to not abort? And doing it proudly?
if they dont have a problem killing their children why does it surprise anyone they dont have a problem making them retards? besides, the chilluns will fit in better with a low IQ in a feminist family
Obviously the waiter wasn't in the right, but A LOT of people are woefully ignorant of the fact that small amounts of alcohol are generally considered safe in pregnancy.
Based on what? Peak medical bodies? Or a single study that was reported by some shitty online newspaper?
Here's a tip - newspapers reprint heavily sensationalized versions of every scientific and medical "breakthrough". Do you think they've also cured cancer like a thousand times just because the news reported that a study showed it might be the case?
There have been no studies on what constitutes a safe amount of alcohol to consume during pregnancy, because conducting such a study would be considered unethical.
gettin serious for a sec, the “it’s muh body” argument stops applying if somebody’s going to have to live an entire lifespan with a half functional brain because of it
Why? If I can abort my child why can't I cause it mental retardation? Are you saying that mental retardation is worse than death? Are you saying mentally retarded babies should be put to death? You are disgusting. That is horrible. Babies should not be put to death ever. Shame on you.
like I said, being able to live outside the womb, which is around 22 weeks. Before that time there is a significant chance for a natural abortion anyway.
Interesting - what about people, for example, that are in comas but have a great chance of a full recovery? Would you still hold that it is okay to murder them?
I think I disagree with that definition, but sure. To rephrase slightly; consider a hypothetical situation in which some person is temporarily reliant on life support, but has a great chance of a full recovery. Is it ok to kill this person?
it doesn't matter how 'unrealistic' the situation is if it's properly analogous. you should check out the violinist thought experiment for quite a relevant, common example of this.
Aborting an embryo and fetus (up to a certain age. I think 20 weeks is a good one, because there is no way it can survive outside the womb then) is more akin to euthanizing someone who is brain dead as their brains are not fully formed yet.
i would disagree with this, because those that are braindead (generally) have no potential for future rationality; which is a common feature cited to morally condemn infanticide. Both fetuses and babies posses this, and so does the person in my situation.
But it is not properly analogous. Even if we hook up a 20 week fetus to a machine, it will still die. It cannot survive without the mother's body, so she has the final say if she wants to carry it to full term. The mother should have autonomy over her body and since the embryo and fetus is basically a parasite at that point, there should be no legal qualm to remove it. The mother's autonomy should always trump a potential life.
After the 20 week cutoff period (the earliest a baby was born and survived EVER is at 22 weeks, by the way) it is illegal to abort it. Well, unless carrying it to full term poses a significant health issue to the mother, of course.
It is not infanticide, no matter how much you want this to be a thing. An infant is a BABY, meaning it is born and can survive without the mother. Not without help, but without the mother. It has the basic biological mechanics to stay alive autonomously.
But it is not properly analogous. Even if we hook up a 20 week fetus to a machine, it will still die.
I think that's besides the wider point; fetuses are dependent on a body, just as babies are to some capacity, and are the people in my hypothetical. All posses the potential for future rationality.
The mother should have autonomy over her body and since the embryo and fetus is basically a parasite at that point, there should be no legal qualm to remove it.
Now here's where i sort of agree with you; yes, the right for bodily autonomy can allow the fetus to be removed (although, in my opinion, only in the case of rape; see the violinist argument), but modern abortion practices do not simply remove the fetus; they kill the fetus beforehand. Analogously, murdering the violinist by slicing his throat before detaching your organs from him is obviously immoral.
After the 20 week cutoff period (the earliest a baby was born and survived EVER is at 22 weeks, by the way) it is illegal to abort it.
I'm not really interested in the law.
It is not infanticide, no matter how much you want this to be a thing.
I mean no, by definition, it is not infanticide, you're right. I'm just holding that all the reasons that make infanticide immoral (generally) also apply to abortion.
I can respect a woman's decision to not want to spend 9 months with a parasite inside her womb, only for it to then pop and for her to become responsible for it for the next 18-30 years.
But I don't respect people who choose to go through with it and then subject that being to things that could potentially make it retarded, no. If you want to do a full pregnancy, do it fucking right or don't do it at all.
I have no idea how you got from "I'm not comfortable only identifying a fetus as a person when it's convenient" to "miscarriages should be prosecuted".
So do you think fetuses should be considered people always? Because I was simply trying to take that to it’s logical conclusion. Apologies if I mistook your position though
Honestly, I think it's cute how you try to defend fetuses, but it's also pretty fucking stupid.
There's a pretty clear difference between deciding not to bring a child into this world and risking birthing one that is retarded because you can't live without wine for 9 months.
Asshats like these make me appreciate the fact that my parent's aren't braindead alcoholics so much more. Thank you mom and dad, I could have turned out much more retarded.
The AAP's guidelines have been under fire for some time now as they do not differentiate between varying volumes of alcohol and frequencies of drinking sessions. The recommendations aren't science-based and are unsupported by the data. Instead, what studies, both short-term data driven and longitudinal, consistently demonstrate is that there is no statistically significant difference between complete abstention and low levels of alcohol consumption (most studies classify "low" as <1 drink per day).
You can take very small doses of thalidomide too without giving birth to a dolphin, but generally people tend to want to do everything they can to maximize the chances of pushing a healthy infant into the world.
i see /u/u/BubbleBlonde108 hasn't posted on reddit in a little over a year now. being a mother is such a tough job - arguably the toughest job in the world - and factoring in that her child was probably born with a mental disability and physical deformities that were definitely NOT due to her own negligent risk taking behavior it must be orders of magnitude more exhausting, so exhausting that she can't partake in e-circlejerks with other totally responsible soon-to-be mothers.
Realistically, occasionaly drinking small amounts of alcohol while pregnant probably won't have any major effects on your child.
However, it seems irresponsible to even risk the chance that your child might get permanent damage for an hour or two of enjoyment on your part. I'm not a prolific alcohol drinker, but does half a glass of wine really do anything for anyone?
Also, fuck the waiter for caring about the development of an unborn child, right? What an asshole!
I've actually seen people defending drinking while pregnant by saying that the """"stress"""" of not having that bottle of chardonnay when you really want it is more damaging to the fetus than the alcohol.
They deem lots of things unsafe, don't they? I mean, lots of women consume small amounts of alcohol in the later stages of pregnancy with no apparent ill effects.
That's what a risk is. You're not guaranteed to worsen the life of your child, but there's a chance, however small, that you will.
Now yeah you can say it's negligible, that it's worth allowing pregnant women to drink, but at no point does it change the fact that by drinking while pregnant, you're putting your child at an increased risk.
Realistically, occasionaly drinking small amounts of alcohol while pregnant probably won't have any major effects on your child.
Realistically, the people who need that glass of wine so much that they're willing to risk the birth defects are not the people who just have a single glass of wine.
Could be pregnancy cravings? I'm not much of a drinker either, but I'm pregnant right now and craving beers for some reason! I don't drink any, I just take big sniffs of my SO's beers and that helps my cravings...
Not trying to justify them drinking, but pregnant women have weird cravings.
How fucking hard is it to not drink for nine months? Given the how incredibly shit FAS is, why the fuck would you risk ruining your kid's entire life for some garbage wine at a brunch?
I just went full sober. It was more like a year. Switched to beer to taper off and avoid withdraw then quit completely. I also quit smoking and socializing and mostly just worked out.
Honestly I'd avoid that. The most fucked up part is that when you black out constantly the line between shit you vaguely recall doing and shit that you like dreamt or whatever gets very blurry.
I'm never going to get back to that point. I hope you never get there.
That could just be because it's awesome. In all seriousness I don't think it's healthy to think in terms of AA type "disease" shit.
Stay hydrated, make sure your work gets done, and ease off if your dick stops working. Oh and use uber or lyft. Do all that shit and you're pretty much just a good time.
A lot of it was in bars, including ones I worked in, and I'd do shots along with my doubles so there isn't like a linear count on drinks. I could casually put down a couple of bottles of jack in a day.
How fucking hard is it to not drink for nine months?
It's not hard at all. Seriously. This coming from someone who would have at least a beer a week. I feel like morning sickness makes normal people not want booze anyway, and by the time that's over you don't even miss it. People who want/have to drink during pregnancy have issues.
I honestly think that could be a good idea. Just because you can have a baby doesn't mean you should. I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone else what they can and can't do with their body, but I feel so many ppl just selfishly have a baby and don't even think about all the energy it's gonna drain from the mom raising the kid, not to mention the money. Kids are fuckin expensive and a lotta work, if you're having a baby cuz you want one rly rly bad, that's just selfish as fuck. I feel a lotta mom's value "being a mother" over actually taking care of a child, then the kids get neglected because the mom is a narcissistic fuck.
People would flip shit about trying to license babies, but I think it might be necessary at one point if we don't correct this degenerate behavior ourselves. I think a pet ownership license is a similar idea and would be a step in the right direction, cuz theres so many ppl that I feel should not be allowed to own pets. If you can't handle a dog how the fuck are you gonna raise a baby?
I love alcohol but come on how retarded can you be? There is no safe amount that you can drink while pregnant, and even if there was why the fuck would you risk your child's health in the first place?
Imagine comparing yourself to a dystopian sex slave because a rando would rather refuse to serve your alcoholic ass than help make your spawn retarded.
Have you read 1985 by George Orwell? How you seen the hentai series Dropout? Why not combine the two and view it through a feminist lens? That is what it basically is about.
It's actually quite a good book that has a pretty nuanced view of human nature and authoritarian society. Of course, it only gets cited by people with very black and white views of human nature and authoritarian societies.
Basically, it's about the life of a woman named Offred who, following an apocalypse caused by a second American civil war, is one of the few women left who can reproduce. So she's tasked by the new authoritarian government with pumping out babies for her assigned husband, a general from the war named Fred. Her name is Offred because... well, she's owned by Fred now, so her name's Of-Fred. Get it? Ha.
Anyway, the book basically follows a section of her life where she tries to escape the society into Canada, which is still semi-functional, and meets a bunch of other people at different levels of society along the way, which is all metaphorical and has a lot of social commentary.
There's also a prologue and epilogue written many years (I think like 100 or something?) after the events of the book, where a historian is giving a lecture to a bunch of people about the event and giving it some context. That way, the reader can get a slightly broader picture than one woman's experience living in Cambridge Massachusetts.
Overall, as I said, it's a surprisingly nuanced book. The society is run by far-right religious wingnuts, but the author shows that doesn't necessarily make them bad people. And the liberal feminist freedom fighters resisting the government are also neither good nor bad, and also contributed to the situation that led to the point where they were all at.
So of course the super popular TV show adaptation skipped all the parts about the "bad guys" being trapped in the system and not enjoying it either, and how the "good guys" had a lot of assholes who wanted to censor stuff just as much as the bad guys.
And now no one really reads the book because reading is dead, and everyone watches the TV show because it's easily consumed tripe, and thinks that the TV show is an accurate representation of the book.
TL;DR: stop ruining good books, Hollywood. It's not that hard.
Had to read the book for class. Book is garbage and loses all nuance when taught by a ultra-liberal feminist teacher. I just remember feeling dirty just reading the book as a teenager.
Yeah, a bad reading of it could really ruin the book. It rides a fine line between preachiness and introspection, and sometimes oversteps. Having someone else tell you what to think about it when they've got an agenda is likely to lead them pushing the entire thing over the edge into preachiness by ignoring all the parts they don't like.
I’ve been seeing and hearing comparisons to handmaids tale everywhere. On JRE Candice Thompson said it’s scary that we are going through a real life handmaidens tale with Trump. I’m just sitting here wondering when are my wife and I going to get assigned a bang maid?
Depends on total revenues and also (surprise clause) whether your wife has a lot of eggs or none eggs after the environmental reproductive catastrophe. If she's smugglin' a pile, you might find you're just under the cutoff, pal. Sorry, greater good and all that.
It's a controversial idea in North America, but there's actually no compelling evidence that small amounts of alcohol, consumed slowly, have any negative affect on fetuses, particularly past the first trimester. There's a great book called Expecting Better that breaks down the studies on alcohol consumption during pregnancy. To offer one example, if moderate drinking during pregnancy caused FAS, we would expect to see higher FAS rates in Europe, where in many countries drinking in moderation during pregnancy is more socially acceptable. Instead we see higher FAS rates in North America, where people go into histrionics over the idea of a 9-months-pregnant woman having one glass of wine with brunch.
But what reminded me of The Handmaid's Tale was the way in which the server looked towards OP's husband as if to say, "Sir, control your woman." In that book/show, men also control women's bodies.
Again, it reminded me of The Handmaid's Tale in the sense of men controlling women's bodies. I never said anything about rape.
Interestingly, [https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1471-0528.2010.02596.x](this) study found that "the children of mothers who were light drinkers in the first 3 months of pregnancy had significantly fewer behavioural problems over the first 14 years of life than those whose mothers did not drink at all during pregnancy."
I'm not advocating for drinking during pregnancy, but simply pointing out that there are well-designed studies that contradict popular opinion. I think women should be permitted to read the available science and choose for themselves without fear of being judged by servers who, while well-meaning, have probably never read a single study on the topic.
To offer one example, if moderate drinking during pregnancy caused FAS, we would expect to see higher FAS rates in Europe, where in many countries drinking in moderation during pregnancy is more socially acceptable. Instead we see higher FAS rates in North America, where people go into histrionics over the idea of a 9-months-pregnant woman having one glass of wine with brunch.
So we just ignore all other parameters, huh ?
Also even if you disprove these studies being legitimate - which I don't really believe the guy did - that doesn't prove alcohol isn't dangerous in low consumption, and considering it is definitely in higher doses, safety principle dictates not to consume alcohol while pregnant.
lol, a bunch of suburban house moms who are too entitled to stop drinking while pregnant will create a generation of infertile mayo-tards. i guess that's one way to end mayos
It's more than them being informed about alcohol and pregnancy though. The fact that he tried to get your "male minder" involved in policing your choices is completely inappropriate and offensive. Even if he didn't know and wanted to make an issue of it, that should have been between you and him. Turning to your husband was like putting you on par with your two-year old child.
Wow. MAYO TRASH. /u/BubbleBlonde108 how's dealing with fetal alcohol syndrome now? Betcha you're the one whining if the kid comes out deformed. You probably don't notice if s/he's retarded tho.
Assuming the basic facts of the story are accurate, a half-glass of champagne at 38 weeks seems like it would be quite unlikely to create any problems at all, let alone miscarriage.
Motherfucker, I browsed through countless pages of pregnant women's stupid ravings to dig up a vintage gem for you guys. I came in good will, bearing a nugget of respite from tired, hashed out culture war and Flumph posts, and this is the thanks I get? Feh! You're probably the type who enjoys the umpteen "negareddit posted words!" posts we get every day.
Your family sound inbred, and the waiter is the only sane man it whatever backwards hillbilly restaurant you were sitting in. I hope that the manager calls you back and says "My staff member was absolutely right, you degenerate". Then you can take it to the media and have the rest of the world point and laugh at what a piece of shit you are.
2-3 according to her. We can probably double that to 4-6 because people always under report how much they're drinking. What a retarded irresponsible cunt.
I've had this argument online before with women. Their argument was 'My body I can do what I want'. So when prostitution argument came up I said 'Their body they can do what they want'. Funnily enough I was wrong both times .
If /u/bubbleblonde108 wants to irrevocably wreck the life of another human being, that's totally her decision. And let's be honest. Is a little bit of fetal alcohol syndrome really worse than being raised by these people?
If I was an infant dealing with that entitled cunt refusing to give me a vaccine because her basic bitches wine club new mom support group said its why they're autistic, I'd be looking for a drink too.
And my MIL is a nurse, she knows it wouldn’t kill me.
When people are worried about the lifelong health of your baby’s brain and spine, but it’s okay because your mother is a nurse and said you wouldn’t die...
Fuck. I've had some nurses try to tell me they're basically doctors. No. You're not. Sure. You do a job and it's probably hard, I wouldn't want to hold some dudes brains in his skull while the doc puts him back together, but fuck off. There's a reason why doctors go through the years of med school while you join a sorority and show up hungover for most of your undergrad.
So, I just looked it up, and you're actually correct. Refusing to serve alcohol to somebody because she's pregnant woman is considered sex discrimination in some places.
Many US states also legally consider drinking during pregnancy as child abuse. So if a pregnant woman orders alcohol at your bar, you only have the choice between discriminating against her, or being complicit in child abuse?
Only a true shitlord would prioritize the health of an unborn child over the brunch mimosa of the mother. I bet she was preggos with a boy and he was just mansplaining fetal alchohol syndrome to her.
Is that sub for real? Is that thread for real? Are those comments real?!
I would have never in my life even thought about the possibility that some cunts would gather together in a place in which they'd defend another cunt who drinks during pregnancy?!
What is this world? Why are these fucking used up ugly retarded suburban cunts allowed to have any opinion or right to exist?! These fucking grandthots just disgust me so much... they are allowed to vote ffs!!!
In a vacuum, I would have assumed that OP was just another /r/drama alt trying to troll like that one guy who baits /r/relationships or trollx, but the number of people chanting in support is shocking.
I'm okay with that a glass of champagne or 2 on a rare occasion during pregnancy won't have any effect on the baby
What bothers me is the self righteousness of this woman and the commenters in that thread.
HOW DARE THAT WAITER SAY ANYTHING ITS YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE.....you're literally drinking alcohol publicly during pregnancy, and then you're a bitch about it when someone MAY be misinformed rather than just politely saying "oh, actually a glass on a rare occasion isn't unhealthy for the baby according to new studies, but thanks for your concern"
EVEN WITH that in mind, how fucking hard is it to just not drink for 9 months and not bother risking it??
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-07-16
That was worse than I thought it would be. They even singled out a certain user.
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1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-07-16
Now we know why /u/BubbleBlonde108 is the way they are.
1 HungryHungryHambeast 2018-07-16
/u/bubbleblonde108 did your baby come out looking like Sloth from the Goonies?
1 DumNerds 2018-07-16
/u/bubbleblonde108 have you kept forcefeeding your child alcohol after he’s out of your body? Or does he still not get the privilege of not guzzling poison.
1 PierligBouloven 2018-07-16
From that thread:
1 TrailerParkBride 2018-07-16
That's fucking retarded. Beer is hardly higher in iron than whatever water source it is brewed with. My grandma used to rub bourbon on my dad's gums when he was teething. We don't do that anymore, either.
1 uTorrent 2018-07-16
They advertise this during the Guinness factory tour. I've got to imagine Irish children are born with a natural alcohol resistance anyway
1 Wenge03 2018-07-16
It used to be an advertising campaign of Guinness many decades ago. I think it was dropped after science proved it fake but the myth continues. Even amongst Doctors, much the same way the spinach one does.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Guinness contains around 0.3mg of iron per pint, which isn’t significant enough to be of any health benefit, whether you’ve just donated blood or not. Men need 8.7mg per day, while women need 14.8mg.
Source: https://www.pushdoctor.co.uk/blog/is-guinness-good-for-you
The source shows some of the Guiness advertisements that claimed health benefits. These were from the 1920s.
1 wont_be_silent 2018-07-16
Hey, fuck you man. Spinach is the real deal. If you eat a can of spinach you instantly become muscular and an animated battleship appears on your bicep. Pop-Eye would never lie to me.
1 Wenge03 2018-07-16
I think the actual truth is better. Someone putting a decimal point in the wrong place.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-07-16
That iron content is more likely from the water they're drinking.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Guiness has 0.3mg of iron per pint, while the daily recommended value for women is 14.8mg, therefore a standard serving of 50 pints of Guiness contains enough iron for a pregnant woman for an entire day.
1 a_thumb_in_my_bum 2018-07-16
Dark beers do in fact induce increased milk flow in breastfeeding mothers.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-07-16
And smoking used to be "good for your health"
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-16
Oh yeah, that definitely worked out for them 😂😂😂
1 DumNerds 2018-07-16
doctors also used to take a cheese grater to your arteries to let the sickness ghosts out of your blood
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-07-16
Cocaine was an ok medicine until people would starve to death because that was all their bodies wanted
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Tfw you will never get a prescription for cocaine 😣😣😣
1 polzavatel 2018-07-16
they sound like appalachian-americans. used to give newborns whiskey to make them shut up
1 heavyblossoms 2018-07-16
This isn’t an American centric trait at all, people do this world wide. My grandma always suggested a hot cup of tea with a splash of red wine for period cramps starting when I was about 12, she’s from Poland.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Does time run 500 times faster for you, mate?
1 Tobans 2018-07-16
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
1 aqouta 2018-07-16
If you ad a - before the second comment in a series of comments it seperates them into two without showing.
1 Tobans 2018-07-16
I wish that boi was my alt. He'd make me proud 😂🤣😂🤣
1 thrillhouze- 2018-07-16
Hot Toddies are given to preteens with colds in some countries. They also taste disgusting.
1 -Steve_French- 2018-07-16
They prefer to be called hillabillies
1 hexane360 2018-07-16
/r/babybumps irl
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-07-16
kinda crazy how to effects of drinking while pregnant are well studied and have very obvious physical signs yet these women feel like it's their right to churn out tard babies because they have no willpower.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
Let's not say women. A lot of women, most women world wide, work hard to be good mothers.
A small percentage of mostly American women fuck their kids up because they can't stop drinking. They should be shamed. Pretending it's all women lets these worthless assholes get away with it.
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-07-16
I think for some of them it's some kind of 'grrl power fight the patriarchy' protest thing but in the end the only thing they're fighting is their kid's GPA.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
That makes it even more asanine, and doesn't change the fact that they're terrible people.
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-07-16
Maybe there should be procreation licenses
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
What do you do if someone procreates without it?
1 Tobans 2018-07-16
https://i.imgur.com/3HS5WsL.gif
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Ah, the old delayed abortion.
1 shallowm 2018-07-16
The parents forfeit their right to the child, and guardianship is transferred over to the state.
1 TheGreatGod42 2018-07-16
Of course its Burger Females who do this.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-07-16
are we MDE now?
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-16
Let's call them bad mothers then.
1 WeWuzKANG5 2018-07-16
notallwomen
1 MoonCricketJamFace 2018-07-16
OP is a fatty from San Franshitshow. Not at all surprised.
1 CompetitiveLoiterer 2018-07-16
And apparently it's also their right to get free healthcare lol
1 TothB 2018-07-16
Alcohol is a drug which effects people's brain so that they drink more alcohol
It's no surprise people fucking ruin their own lives or their children's lives over this sort of thing
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-07-16
Do you want /r/Drama posters? Because this is how you get /r/Drama posters.
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-07-16
lmao
1 ry8919 2018-07-16
He won because of fetal alcohol syndrome?
1 Singulaire 2018-07-16
Are you surprised?
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-07-16
Nah he won because the left managed to actually stoop to his level of retardation while running the least charasmatic and most tainted candidate ever.
Notice how that whole thread is reeing about "muh body muh choice" when it literally comes to poisoning a baby they fully intend to not abort? And doing it proudly?
1 polzavatel 2018-07-16
if they dont have a problem killing their children why does it surprise anyone they dont have a problem making them retards? besides, the chilluns will fit in better with a low IQ in a feminist family
1 Psyman2 2018-07-16
I know you used the right words, but it still feels like even this is giving her too much credit.
Maybe it's the word 'candidate'. Implying there's a reality in which she's qualified to be called one.
1 wow___justwow 2018-07-16
maybe?
1 Aerialcharles 2018-07-16
Lucky mafk is gonna get NEETbux for the rest of his life while I gotta work.
1 -Steve_French- 2018-07-16
Trump won the fetal alcohol vote?
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-07-16
😴😴😴
1 wisty 2018-07-16
/u/cmcg1227
Based on what? Peak medical bodies? Or a single study that was reported by some shitty online newspaper?
The American Academy of Pediatrics says there's no safe amount - https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/Pages/AAP-Says-No-Amount-of-Alcohol-Should-be-Considered-Safe-During-Pregnancy.aspx but what does the largest publisher of pediatrics journals no about medicine, The Graudian reported that new research may suggest that's not the case!
Here's a tip - newspapers reprint heavily sensationalized versions of every scientific and medical "breakthrough". Do you think they've also cured cancer like a thousand times just because the news reported that a study showed it might be the case?
1 Mikeavelli 2018-07-16
There have been no studies on what constitutes a safe amount of alcohol to consume during pregnancy, because conducting such a study would be considered unethical.
1 wow___justwow 2018-07-16
goddamn ethics in medical experimentation
1 Sojir 2018-07-16
Time to open r/pubmedinaction
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Imagine I just gilded you for that comment
1 Peetrius 2018-07-16
/r/PUBMEDBATTLEGROUNDS
1 DumNerds 2018-07-16
gettin serious for a sec, the “it’s muh body” argument stops applying if somebody’s going to have to live an entire lifespan with a half functional brain because of it
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-07-16
Forced sterilization for the uneducated now
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Why? If I can abort my child why can't I cause it mental retardation? Are you saying that mental retardation is worse than death? Are you saying mentally retarded babies should be put to death? You are disgusting. That is horrible. Babies should not be put to death ever. Shame on you.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
yes
no, if you are stupid enough to carry your child full term, you're stuck with it.
A fetus or embryo is not a baby.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
What's the difference between a fetus and a baby?
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
A baby can live outside the mother's body.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
Not by itself it can't. It'll shit itself and die.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
At least it can breath and eat.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
Yes it can. It just can't feed itself, but it can breath and it can process the food.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
What about people that require assisted brething machines? Do they revert back to fetus status?
1 heavyblossoms 2018-07-16
Did your mother drink heavily while pregnant or are you naturally this stupid
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
No u
1 xXsnip_ur_ballsXx 2018-07-16
I think that is a good point though - if you're going to make qualifiers on what is considered "human", you're gonna have to back them up.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
I'm in favor of euthanasia, yes. Especially in cases of needless and hopeless suffering.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
I don't mean the physical difference, I mean the significant difference that grants babies moral personhood that fetuses lack.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
like I said, being able to live outside the womb, which is around 22 weeks. Before that time there is a significant chance for a natural abortion anyway.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
Why is it ok to kill a fetus that can't live on it's own, but it's not ok to kill someone reliant on life support?
There's a minute chance of you getting killed every day of your life, yet that wouldn't justify murder either, right?
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
This happens every day. People who are unable to live w/o life support get taken off it to die.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
Interesting - what about people, for example, that are in comas but have a great chance of a full recovery? Would you still hold that it is okay to murder them?
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
They wouldn't be in a coma, because "a great chance of a full recovery" and a genuine coma is oxymoron.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
I think I disagree with that definition, but sure. To rephrase slightly; consider a hypothetical situation in which some person is temporarily reliant on life support, but has a great chance of a full recovery. Is it ok to kill this person?
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
I mean, I think it says it all when you have to invent an unrealistic scenario to try and convince me that it really is murder.
Aborting an embryo and fetus is more akin to euthanizing someone who is brain dead as their brains are not fully formed yet.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
it doesn't matter how 'unrealistic' the situation is if it's properly analogous. you should check out the violinist thought experiment for quite a relevant, common example of this.
i would disagree with this, because those that are braindead (generally) have no potential for future rationality; which is a common feature cited to morally condemn infanticide. Both fetuses and babies posses this, and so does the person in my situation.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
But it is not properly analogous. Even if we hook up a 20 week fetus to a machine, it will still die. It cannot survive without the mother's body, so she has the final say if she wants to carry it to full term. The mother should have autonomy over her body and since the embryo and fetus is basically a parasite at that point, there should be no legal qualm to remove it. The mother's autonomy should always trump a potential life.
After the 20 week cutoff period (the earliest a baby was born and survived EVER is at 22 weeks, by the way) it is illegal to abort it. Well, unless carrying it to full term poses a significant health issue to the mother, of course.
It is not infanticide, no matter how much you want this to be a thing. An infant is a BABY, meaning it is born and can survive without the mother. Not without help, but without the mother. It has the basic biological mechanics to stay alive autonomously.
1 concrete_manu 2018-07-16
I think that's besides the wider point; fetuses are dependent on a body, just as babies are to some capacity, and are the people in my hypothetical. All posses the potential for future rationality.
Now here's where i sort of agree with you; yes, the right for bodily autonomy can allow the fetus to be removed (although, in my opinion, only in the case of rape; see the violinist argument), but modern abortion practices do not simply remove the fetus; they kill the fetus beforehand. Analogously, murdering the violinist by slicing his throat before detaching your organs from him is obviously immoral.
I'm not really interested in the law.
I mean no, by definition, it is not infanticide, you're right. I'm just holding that all the reasons that make infanticide immoral (generally) also apply to abortion.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-16
Are you retarded? One of those things stops a child from ever existing and the other dooms it to a life of abject suffering.
No but it is.
No
1 dick_me_greek_daddy 2018-07-16
I hope you're anti-abortion or you're a massive hypocrite.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
It's not hypocritical to know the difference between a fetus and an actual human.
By all means, if you're pregnant and on the way to the abortion clinic, knock back as many tequilas you want.
1 cleverseneca 2018-07-16
So a fetus is only a human worth protecting if it's wanted? That makes me deeply uncomfortable.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
I can respect a woman's decision to not want to spend 9 months with a parasite inside her womb, only for it to then pop and for her to become responsible for it for the next 18-30 years.
But I don't respect people who choose to go through with it and then subject that being to things that could potentially make it retarded, no. If you want to do a full pregnancy, do it fucking right or don't do it at all.
1 melokobeai 2018-07-16
Pretty much. Why does it make you uncomfortable?
1 cleverseneca 2018-07-16
Because bad things happen when we start making judgement calls on whether another human deserves personhood or not.
1 melokobeai 2018-07-16
Do you think there should be criminal investigations for women who have miscarriages?
1 cleverseneca 2018-07-16
I have no idea how you got from "I'm not comfortable only identifying a fetus as a person when it's convenient" to "miscarriages should be prosecuted".
1 melokobeai 2018-07-16
So do you think fetuses should be considered people always? Because I was simply trying to take that to it’s logical conclusion. Apologies if I mistook your position though
1 dick_me_greek_daddy 2018-07-16
Why can't you knock back as many tequilas as you want dude? It's just a group of cells, right? LMAO.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Honestly, I think it's cute how you try to defend fetuses, but it's also pretty fucking stupid.
There's a pretty clear difference between deciding not to bring a child into this world and risking birthing one that is retarded because you can't live without wine for 9 months.
1 dick_me_greek_daddy 2018-07-16
Does a fetus have rights? If your answer is no then shut rhe fuck up because it's the woman's choice.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Just because it's her choice doesn't mean she's not a despicable cunt for making it.
1 dick_me_greek_daddy 2018-07-16
And an even more despicable cunt if she aborts the fetus.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Nope
1 Insert_Gnome_Here 2018-07-16
You can always get pregnant chimps utterly battered.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-16
Animal experiments are cool tho.
1 Alimentas 2018-07-16
There have been studies. Here's a video on the topic, with sources in the description https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxN08rIFkqI
Example: Moderate alcohol drinking in pregnancy increases risk for children's persistent conduct problems: causal effects in a Mendelian randomisation study.
Yes, ethics make it a hard subject to study, but not impossible. Also there have been studies on animals, like fish.
Another video (almost) on the topic, more sources in the description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzMT7rXvmP8
Example: Zebrafish fetal alcohol syndrome model: effects of ethanol are rescued by retinoic acid supplement.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-07-16
Dude. It's just a drink. If my kid's retarded that's FINE
1 MoonCricketJamFace 2018-07-16
It’ll be just like you!
1 imissyouseattle 2018-07-16
My moms the best krokodil slammer west of Russia. I turned out great
1 a_thumb_in_my_bum 2018-07-16
Um sweaty, you are a beacon in these dark days.
Who even needs an upper lip, anyway? Not you, sweaty.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Well......
1 Thhueros 2018-07-16
is she snigle
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-16
I mean she's 38 weeks, so the retardation would have set in by now if it was going to happen right?
1 polzavatel 2018-07-16
if their kids aren't born retarded how will mummy get them to enjoy reddit?
1 imissyouseattle 2018-07-16
Or Drama?
1 CompetitiveLoiterer 2018-07-16
Also pls give me free healthcare for my defective son thx
1 PossiblyMakingShitUp 2018-07-16
As a Mother, I know more about “science” than any fancy study.
This is also why I vaccinate my children with Guiness. I was told it has extra iron which helps prevent autism.
1 The_DHC 2018-07-16
Autism can't melt iron beams. It's science
1 Matthew94 2018-07-16
know*
1 Hamalama 2018-07-16
kno u
1 Matthew94 2018-07-16
fuck off you stupid cunt
1 Alimentas 2018-07-16
Asshats like these make me appreciate the fact that my parent's aren't braindead alcoholics so much more. Thank you mom and dad, I could have turned out much more retarded.
1 ImproperlyRepudiated 2018-07-16
The AAP's guidelines have been under fire for some time now as they do not differentiate between varying volumes of alcohol and frequencies of drinking sessions. The recommendations aren't science-based and are unsupported by the data. Instead, what studies, both short-term data driven and longitudinal, consistently demonstrate is that there is no statistically significant difference between complete abstention and low levels of alcohol consumption (most studies classify "low" as <1 drink per day).
1 OysterCookie 2018-07-16
Shiggy diggy (⌐■_■)
1 xXsnip_ur_ballsXx 2018-07-16
The benefit of drinking alcohol is not worth the risk, however marginal, of FAS.
1 ThickSantorum 2018-07-16
Regardless, someone who can't even commit to giving up alcohol for 9 measly months is going to be a shit parent.
1 meatpuppet79 2018-07-16
You can take very small doses of thalidomide too without giving birth to a dolphin, but generally people tend to want to do everything they can to maximize the chances of pushing a healthy infant into the world.
1 archdukef4gg0talt 2018-07-16
i see /u/u/BubbleBlonde108 hasn't posted on reddit in a little over a year now. being a mother is such a tough job - arguably the toughest job in the world - and factoring in that her child was probably born with a mental disability and physical deformities that were definitely NOT due to her own negligent risk taking behavior it must be orders of magnitude more exhausting, so exhausting that she can't partake in e-circlejerks with other totally responsible soon-to-be mothers.
1 soggybutter 2018-07-16
I hate the term hubby so goddamn much ugh
1 tritter211 2018-07-16
HUBBY
HUBBYHUBBYHUBBYHUBBYHUBBYHUBBYHUBBY
1 miceandmovies 2018-07-16
OUT OUT OUT OUT
1 Peetrius 2018-07-16
It's right up there with furrbaby and adulting
1 FearOfBees 2018-07-16
When youre white but advocating mayocide because this shit
1 22333444455555666666 2018-07-16
why are they all so retarded? preggocide now?
1 Quizlop 2018-07-16
Realistically, occasionaly drinking small amounts of alcohol while pregnant probably won't have any major effects on your child.
However, it seems irresponsible to even risk the chance that your child might get permanent damage for an hour or two of enjoyment on your part. I'm not a prolific alcohol drinker, but does half a glass of wine really do anything for anyone?
Also, fuck the waiter for caring about the development of an unborn child, right? What an asshole!
1 MoonCricketJamFace 2018-07-16
But but but my soggy knees. How dare he tell a woman what to do with her body.
1 GenitalGesticulation 2018-07-16
I've actually seen people defending drinking while pregnant by saying that the """"stress"""" of not having that bottle of chardonnay when you really want it is more damaging to the fetus than the alcohol.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Sounds legit.
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
That's what my cousin said about smoking. "My doctor said the stress of quitting was worse!!!". I don't believe her.
1 Awayfone 2018-07-16
Although pretty much every medical organization does not deem any amount of alcohol safe to drink while pregnant
1 CowardiceNSandwiches 2018-07-16
They deem lots of things unsafe, don't they? I mean, lots of women consume small amounts of alcohol in the later stages of pregnancy with no apparent ill effects.
1 Nadare3 2018-07-16
That's what a risk is. You're not guaranteed to worsen the life of your child, but there's a chance, however small, that you will.
Now yeah you can say it's negligible, that it's worth allowing pregnant women to drink, but at no point does it change the fact that by drinking while pregnant, you're putting your child at an increased risk.
1 wisty 2018-07-16
Realistically, the people who need that glass of wine so much that they're willing to risk the birth defects are not the people who just have a single glass of wine.
1 FrankieAK 2018-07-16
Could be pregnancy cravings? I'm not much of a drinker either, but I'm pregnant right now and craving beers for some reason! I don't drink any, I just take big sniffs of my SO's beers and that helps my cravings...
Not trying to justify them drinking, but pregnant women have weird cravings.
1 PixelatedFractal 2018-07-16
EVERYONE HAS WEIRD CRAVINGS
1 FrankieAK 2018-07-16
True. But, sometimes pregnancy cravings will make you want to barf unless you get exactly what you're craving.
1 PixelatedFractal 2018-07-16
Like heroin?
1 FrankieAK 2018-07-16
Does heroin have a taste?
1 PixelatedFractal 2018-07-16
Yeeaaaahhh...not a particularly cravable one...one would hope.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-16
How fucking hard is it to not drink for nine months? Given the how incredibly shit FAS is, why the fuck would you risk ruining your kid's entire life for some garbage wine at a brunch?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
I'm a genuine high-functioning alcoholic and I've gone 9 months before. These women disgust me.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Hello there fellow alcohol-liker, 9 months really? Redpill me
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
I just went full sober. It was more like a year. Switched to beer to taper off and avoid withdraw then quit completely. I also quit smoking and socializing and mostly just worked out.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
You went a year on the wagon and still consider yourself addicted?
What is your consumption these days?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
Oh I'm back to getting fucked up a lot. Still not as NEARLY as bad as I was, I used to black out a few times a week, but it's certainly not good.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Guess I have that multiple-blackouts-in-weekly step to look forward to
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
Honestly I'd avoid that. The most fucked up part is that when you black out constantly the line between shit you vaguely recall doing and shit that you like dreamt or whatever gets very blurry.
I'm never going to get back to that point. I hope you never get there.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
I'm not there yet, I just find it hard sometimes to not drink when I can
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
That could just be because it's awesome. In all seriousness I don't think it's healthy to think in terms of AA type "disease" shit.
Stay hydrated, make sure your work gets done, and ease off if your dick stops working. Oh and use uber or lyft. Do all that shit and you're pretty much just a good time.
1 kippot 2018-07-16
Cheers 😉
1 RollTide09 2018-07-16
How much were you drinking at your peak?
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
A lot of it was in bars, including ones I worked in, and I'd do shots along with my doubles so there isn't like a linear count on drinks. I could casually put down a couple of bottles of jack in a day.
1 RollTide09 2018-07-16
Ah, I don’t think I’m near that level. I go through a handle in about 4 days. Pretty consistently though so I need to chill out soon.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-16
I mean as long as your life is going OK, it's fine.
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-16
It's not hard at all. Seriously. This coming from someone who would have at least a beer a week. I feel like morning sickness makes normal people not want booze anyway, and by the time that's over you don't even miss it. People who want/have to drink during pregnancy have issues.
1 jallopsmith 2018-07-16
These peoples vote counts as much as yours.
1 PossiblyMakingShitUp 2018-07-16
Their babies' votes won’t though :/
http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/sl-incompetence-mentally-ill-voter-right-states.html
1 spookyguy109 2018-07-16
Women's rights were a mistake.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-16
Nah.. Her "hubby" just gotta know when to slap a hoe.
1 Cypher211 2018-07-16
Disgusting that she can't control herself for 9 fucking months. Every day I become more convinced that we should require a license to breed.
1 markspankity 2018-07-16
I honestly think that could be a good idea. Just because you can have a baby doesn't mean you should. I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone else what they can and can't do with their body, but I feel so many ppl just selfishly have a baby and don't even think about all the energy it's gonna drain from the mom raising the kid, not to mention the money. Kids are fuckin expensive and a lotta work, if you're having a baby cuz you want one rly rly bad, that's just selfish as fuck. I feel a lotta mom's value "being a mother" over actually taking care of a child, then the kids get neglected because the mom is a narcissistic fuck.
People would flip shit about trying to license babies, but I think it might be necessary at one point if we don't correct this degenerate behavior ourselves. I think a pet ownership license is a similar idea and would be a step in the right direction, cuz theres so many ppl that I feel should not be allowed to own pets. If you can't handle a dog how the fuck are you gonna raise a baby?
1 putdrugsinyourbutt69 2018-07-16
Wanna hear a funny joke? Womens rights
1 DistortedLines 2018-07-16
I love alcohol but come on how retarded can you be? There is no safe amount that you can drink while pregnant, and even if there was why the fuck would you risk your child's health in the first place?
1 Awayfone 2018-07-16
Her body her choice.
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-07-16
FTFY
1 Raven0520 2018-07-16
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!
1 MacAndShits 2018-07-16
I mean, it's not me who will have to deal with a tard baby afterwards
1 CompetitiveLoiterer 2018-07-16
her choice your money
1 Awayfone 2018-07-16
I hate that book so much
1 Neil_Tzedakah 2018-07-16
Imagine comparing yourself to a dystopian sex slave because a rando would rather refuse to serve your alcoholic ass than help make your spawn retarded.
1 mcslibbin 2018-07-16
we used to have a handmaid's tale copypasta here before the show came out and ruined it
1 throwawayact69 2018-07-16
This and 1984, the books that dumb fucking histrionic mayos and angolofats use to smear everything they don't like
1 yoyoyoyoyoyoy0 2018-07-16
Don't put them in the same sentence you illiterate mong
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
He's right tho. YOU SAYING HE CAN'T IS LITERALLY 1984 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
1 yoyoyoyoyoyoy0 2018-07-16
shit, rumbled im (((goldstein)))
1 SpotNL 2018-07-16
i'm that kid that rats out his parents.
1 RoebuckThirtyFour 2018-07-16
I've never heard of it before, what is it about?
1 Gtyyler 2018-07-16
Have you read 1985 by George Orwell? How you seen the hentai series Dropout? Why not combine the two and view it through a feminist lens? That is what it basically is about.
1 e-guy 2018-07-16
It's actually quite a good book that has a pretty nuanced view of human nature and authoritarian society. Of course, it only gets cited by people with very black and white views of human nature and authoritarian societies.
Basically, it's about the life of a woman named Offred who, following an apocalypse caused by a second American civil war, is one of the few women left who can reproduce. So she's tasked by the new authoritarian government with pumping out babies for her assigned husband, a general from the war named Fred. Her name is Offred because... well, she's owned by Fred now, so her name's Of-Fred. Get it? Ha.
Anyway, the book basically follows a section of her life where she tries to escape the society into Canada, which is still semi-functional, and meets a bunch of other people at different levels of society along the way, which is all metaphorical and has a lot of social commentary.
There's also a prologue and epilogue written many years (I think like 100 or something?) after the events of the book, where a historian is giving a lecture to a bunch of people about the event and giving it some context. That way, the reader can get a slightly broader picture than one woman's experience living in Cambridge Massachusetts.
Overall, as I said, it's a surprisingly nuanced book. The society is run by far-right religious wingnuts, but the author shows that doesn't necessarily make them bad people. And the liberal feminist freedom fighters resisting the government are also neither good nor bad, and also contributed to the situation that led to the point where they were all at.
So of course the super popular TV show adaptation skipped all the parts about the "bad guys" being trapped in the system and not enjoying it either, and how the "good guys" had a lot of assholes who wanted to censor stuff just as much as the bad guys.
And now no one really reads the book because reading is dead, and everyone watches the TV show because it's easily consumed tripe, and thinks that the TV show is an accurate representation of the book.
TL;DR: stop ruining good books, Hollywood. It's not that hard.
1 cleverseneca 2018-07-16
Had to read the book for class. Book is garbage and loses all nuance when taught by a ultra-liberal feminist teacher. I just remember feeling dirty just reading the book as a teenager.
1 e-guy 2018-07-16
Yeah, a bad reading of it could really ruin the book. It rides a fine line between preachiness and introspection, and sometimes oversteps. Having someone else tell you what to think about it when they've got an agenda is likely to lead them pushing the entire thing over the edge into preachiness by ignoring all the parts they don't like.
1 TheCodexx 2018-07-16
I don't even know what it is but I hate all the women who think referencing it is clever any time they disagree with something.
"There's a rule? What is this, Handmaid's Tale? REEEEEEEE"
1 Gtyyler 2018-07-16
Adult male: "this is something socially unacceptable"
Woman: "Do we live in The Handmaid's Tale?"
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
I thought we lived in a society?
1 Gtyyler 2018-07-16
bottom text gamers rise up
1 Nerdsbane 2018-07-16
I’ve been seeing and hearing comparisons to handmaids tale everywhere. On JRE Candice Thompson said it’s scary that we are going through a real life handmaidens tale with Trump. I’m just sitting here wondering when are my wife and I going to get assigned a bang maid?
1 funobtainium 2018-07-16
If you're not a CEO, your wife is now a bang maid.
1 Nerdsbane 2018-07-16
I have self proprietorship that I started just to get business credit cards does that count?
1 funobtainium 2018-07-16
Depends on total revenues and also (surprise clause) whether your wife has a lot of eggs or none eggs after the environmental reproductive catastrophe. If she's smugglin' a pile, you might find you're just under the cutoff, pal. Sorry, greater good and all that.
1 Nerdsbane 2018-07-16
"goddamnit I supported a right wing authoritarian theocracy and all I got from it was being cucked."
1 funobtainium 2018-07-16
Womp womp!
1 spliffthespaceman 2018-07-16
I'll be your bang maid
1 Nerdsbane 2018-07-16
I may be gay enough to be a /r/drama user but I’m not that gay.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-07-16
As if any of those tards actually read books. If it was still just a book no one would know shit about it
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-16
u/thegirlses
Yes because a responsible adult refusing to let you knowingly and purposely fucked up your baby is totally the same as being a sex slave.
How does it feel to be a great argument for forced sterilization?
1 thegirlses 2018-07-16
It's a controversial idea in North America, but there's actually no compelling evidence that small amounts of alcohol, consumed slowly, have any negative affect on fetuses, particularly past the first trimester. There's a great book called Expecting Better that breaks down the studies on alcohol consumption during pregnancy. To offer one example, if moderate drinking during pregnancy caused FAS, we would expect to see higher FAS rates in Europe, where in many countries drinking in moderation during pregnancy is more socially acceptable. Instead we see higher FAS rates in North America, where people go into histrionics over the idea of a 9-months-pregnant woman having one glass of wine with brunch.
But what reminded me of The Handmaid's Tale was the way in which the server looked towards OP's husband as if to say, "Sir, control your woman." In that book/show, men also control women's bodies.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2018-07-16
Perhaps the server thought that, if he could not convince the mother, he could appeal to her most trusted companion.
Nah, I think it's more likely that he thinks of women as a baby-making rape slaves.
1 thegirlses 2018-07-16
Again, it reminded me of The Handmaid's Tale in the sense of men controlling women's bodies. I never said anything about rape.
Interestingly, [https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1471-0528.2010.02596.x](this) study found that "the children of mothers who were light drinkers in the first 3 months of pregnancy had significantly fewer behavioural problems over the first 14 years of life than those whose mothers did not drink at all during pregnancy."
I'm not advocating for drinking during pregnancy, but simply pointing out that there are well-designed studies that contradict popular opinion. I think women should be permitted to read the available science and choose for themselves without fear of being judged by servers who, while well-meaning, have probably never read a single study on the topic.
1 xXsnip_ur_ballsXx 2018-07-16
Why would you risk it though? Is a glass of wine really worth the risk (however minimal it might be) of FAS?
1 Nadare3 2018-07-16
So we just ignore all other parameters, huh ?
Also even if you disprove these studies being legitimate - which I don't really believe the guy did - that doesn't prove alcohol isn't dangerous in low consumption, and considering it is definitely in higher doses, safety principle dictates not to consume alcohol while pregnant.
1 krimpus 2018-07-16
lol, a bunch of suburban house moms who are too entitled to stop drinking while pregnant will create a generation of infertile mayo-tards. i guess that's one way to end mayos
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Na they'll be lower IQ and therefore more likely to breed.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-16
These women shouldn't been able to ve pregnant in the first place.
Another proof that american mayo women are😷
1 lol_te_gusto 2018-07-16
The internet was a mistake
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
No, it wasn't. I prefer knowning people this stupid exist.
1 imnotagayboy 2018-07-16
Hahaha
1 cleverseneca 2018-07-16
There's nothing in a beer that can't just as easily be gotten from a barley bread and marmite.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-16
Wow. MAYO TRASH. /u/BubbleBlonde108 how's dealing with fetal alcohol syndrome now? Betcha you're the one whining if the kid comes out deformed. You probably don't notice if s/he's retarded tho.
1 TransexualWiener 2018-07-16
this is from a year ago, the baby is already retarded.
1 Neil_Tzedakah 2018-07-16
Only if it didn't slide out half-baked when she went for her morning preggo shit. Alcohol does that to fetuses too, sometimes.
1 CowardiceNSandwiches 2018-07-16
Assuming the basic facts of the story are accurate, a half-glass of champagne at 38 weeks seems like it would be quite unlikely to create any problems at all, let alone miscarriage.
1 TheRobidog 2018-07-16
Considering this is a woman who can't stop herself from drinking alcohol for 9 months, I'd wager they aren't.
1 Alimentas 2018-07-16
If the bitch can't put the glass down for 9 months, do you really think she'd stop at half-glass of champagne?
1 -Steve_French- 2018-07-16
She drank serveral times a week for most of her pregnancy
1 Aerialcharles 2018-07-16
Women were a mistake how is this drama post your jungle-bridge you fucking idiot and miss me with this negative-effort bullshit.
1 Neil_Tzedakah 2018-07-16
Motherfucker, I browsed through countless pages of pregnant women's stupid ravings to dig up a vintage gem for you guys. I came in good will, bearing a nugget of respite from tired, hashed out culture war and Flumph posts, and this is the thanks I get? Feh! You're probably the type who enjoys the umpteen "negareddit posted words!" posts we get every day.
1 Aerialcharles 2018-07-16
Your name is Neil, checkmate dramaqueen.
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-16
Are they all trying to subconsciously induce an abortion?
1 a_jill_sandwich 2018-07-16
/u/BubbleBlonde108 has probably been chugging a glass of red wine a week, slurring "the doctors says it's good for the baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaby". I mean, she managed to lock herself out and couldn't remember a 4 digit code. That's not baby brain, honey. That's having something wrong with you.
Your family sound inbred, and the waiter is the only sane man it whatever backwards hillbilly restaurant you were sitting in. I hope that the manager calls you back and says "My staff member was absolutely right, you degenerate". Then you can take it to the media and have the rest of the world point and laugh at what a piece of shit you are.
1 MadMaxMercer 2018-07-16
Hey man, her body her right to retard whatever is trying to grow inside her.
1 Vegan_dogfucker 2018-07-16
https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyBumps/comments/6bmrvz/z/dhok66v
2-3 according to her. We can probably double that to 4-6 because people always under report how much they're drinking. What a retarded irresponsible cunt.
1 Xenepa 2018-07-16
>when you absolutely can NOT pass on alcohol and absolutely must drink it
1 Wenge03 2018-07-16
I've had this argument online before with women. Their argument was 'My body I can do what I want'. So when prostitution argument came up I said 'Their body they can do what they want'. Funnily enough I was wrong both times .
1 KingWayneX 2018-07-16
Doesnt matter, you hate women and want to control their vaginas/uteruses
1 Haslinhezl 2018-07-16
How fucking dense are these cunts
1 Vegan_dogfucker 2018-07-16
If /u/bubbleblonde108 wants to irrevocably wreck the life of another human being, that's totally her decision. And let's be honest. Is a little bit of fetal alcohol syndrome really worse than being raised by these people?
1 thisguy60 2018-07-16
If I was an infant dealing with that entitled cunt refusing to give me a vaccine because her
basic bitches wine clubnew mom support group said its why they're autistic, I'd be looking for a drink too.1 Vegan_dogfucker 2018-07-16
Find less retarded people to associate with?
1 -dEbAsEr 2018-07-16
When people are worried about the lifelong health of your baby’s brain and spine, but it’s okay because your mother is a nurse and said you wouldn’t die...
1 thisguy60 2018-07-16
Fuck. I've had some nurses try to tell me they're basically doctors. No. You're not. Sure. You do a job and it's probably hard, I wouldn't want to hold some dudes brains in his skull while the doc puts him back together, but fuck off. There's a reason why doctors go through the years of med school while you join a sorority and show up hungover for most of your undergrad.
1 saint2e 2018-07-16
Yup, and bartenders never refuse to give people drinks for safety reasons either.
1 JewWithGardenBeans 2018-07-16
Imagine unironically believing this bullshit.
1 NomDuGloom 2018-07-16
That’s actually the legality of it though.
1 JewWithGardenBeans 2018-07-16
So, I just looked it up, and you're actually correct. Refusing to serve alcohol to somebody because she's pregnant woman is considered sex discrimination in some places.
Many US states also legally consider drinking during pregnancy as child abuse. So if a pregnant woman orders alcohol at your bar, you only have the choice between discriminating against her, or being complicit in child abuse?
1 MadMaxMercer 2018-07-16
Only a true shitlord would prioritize the health of an unborn child over the brunch mimosa of the mother. I bet she was preggos with a boy and he was just mansplaining fetal alchohol syndrome to her.
1 Zozbot 2018-07-16
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1 MadMaxMercer 2018-07-16
I've never thought of it that way before...
1 M0ntyPyt0n 2018-07-16
Is that sub for real? Is that thread for real? Are those comments real?!
I would have never in my life even thought about the possibility that some cunts would gather together in a place in which they'd defend another cunt who drinks during pregnancy?!
What is this world? Why are these fucking used up ugly retarded suburban cunts allowed to have any opinion or right to exist?! These fucking grandthots just disgust me so much... they are allowed to vote ffs!!!
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-16
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCg7_aZbchc
1 bonerdude420 2018-07-16
imagine being this retarded
1 Peetrius 2018-07-16
In a vacuum, I would have assumed that OP was just another /r/drama alt trying to troll like that one guy who baits /r/relationships or trollx, but the number of people chanting in support is shocking.
1 lm12btw 2018-07-16
I'm okay with that a glass of champagne or 2 on a rare occasion during pregnancy won't have any effect on the baby
What bothers me is the self righteousness of this woman and the commenters in that thread.
HOW DARE THAT WAITER SAY ANYTHING ITS YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE.....you're literally drinking alcohol publicly during pregnancy, and then you're a bitch about it when someone MAY be misinformed rather than just politely saying "oh, actually a glass on a rare occasion isn't unhealthy for the baby according to new studies, but thanks for your concern"
EVEN WITH that in mind, how fucking hard is it to just not drink for 9 months and not bother risking it??
1 chrmanyaki 2018-07-16
Of course this person is a piece of shit towards waitstaff and so will her trash children and grandchildren be.
To the gulag with her lads!
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-07-16
I support these women's right to produce the next generation of /r/ChapoTrapHouse posters
1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-07-16
Drama is a year old, dramatards are pinging a user who hasn’t said a word in a year...
Hm. Is everyone here suffering FAS?
1 hexane360 2018-07-16
Frankly we should be grateful there's a sub dedicated to bringing more /r/drama users into the world
1 The-Swat-team 2018-07-16
They may as well come out yelling I'm support of birth defects.
1 Nopepole 2018-07-16
WHITE 👏🏿 PEOPLE👏🏿 NONSENSE👏🏿
1 Ikea_Man 2018-07-16
also people who refer to their SOs as "hubby" should unironically keep themselves really secure
1 gnrlysrs 2018-07-16
When my girlfriend is pregnant I will stop drinking with her so she doesn't feel left out.
1 Fuzzy_Oil 2018-07-16
/u/BubbleBlonde108 does your lush ass get slammed before breast feeding your little FAS monster too?
1 -Steve_French- 2018-07-16
/u/bubbleblonde108 imagine not being able to stop drinking for a whole 9 months to make sure your baby comes out as healthy as possible
1 gumble212 2018-07-16
Femoids smdh