DNA test should be mandatory.
The woman shouldn't be able to name the father without a DNA test.
The man should have the choice of opting-in as to whether to be the father or not.
On the low end, thats 1.2 billion dollars per year spent on paternity tests.
I mean that isn’t even taking into account the fact that I will have some old POS accountant getting into even more aspects of my life. When we all know the only real solution is not marrying a thot, and better birth control.
The US agrees, which is why stealing less than 500 bucks only nets you a misdemeanor. There isn’t enough time in the day to throw the book at every Becky/Tom who steals a tube of toothpaste.
Also now that I think about it, they aren’t even equal to begin with. Prosecuting thieves could possibly get the stolen merchandise back, which would justify the cost. Thieves also are more likely to steal in the future, so taking one off the street could potentially save business money in the future. Mandatory paternity testing would add another cost onto child birth, and would almost certainly lead to an increase in single mothers/broken families which would lead to a higher monetary costs in the future (aka more people in jail, more drug addicts etc).
So stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from someone under the threat of jail time and destroying their life for non-payment is justified because it costs too much to do anything about it.
Same reason why the US army doesn't outfit their soldiers with the best combat armor available. That cost benny dont make sense. Besides, a better option already exists.
Coming from the person who has provided zero justification for the stupid law to begin with.
But if you want more justification I can point to the 14th amendment of the Constitution of the United States and the Due Process Clause, the same clause that made Roe possibly would also make what you are proposing impossible. The protection afforded to the father would not be afforded to the mother, since someone has to raise the child. Also, if you think individual mandates don’t go over like a fart in church around here then you need to talk to your fellow countrymen.
Beyond that it’s just hard to wrap my head around the fact that you want the government telling you to waste money on frivolous shit that effects maybe 1/10 couples.
We should get rid of frivolous wastes like birth certificates then. A clear violation of the Constitution. And one out of ten couples out of hundreds of millions is a lot fam.
Most people would be perfectly happy to do DNA testing if insurance covered it. Those who don't could absolutely refuse with no risk of penalty. It needn't be compelled by force. The suspicion of refusing is all that's needed.
Theft is wrong no matter how you spin it. Destroying people's lives--even the dreaded white male--is wrong. I'll take it a step further. Lying about a child's parent should be a felony.
No, because Birth Certificate save the United States money in the long run because its a standardized system for us all to use, similar to the time zones. so you could file it under the interstate commerce clause which would give full authority to Congress. I also just looked it up and Its also covered under XIV so that doesnt really work. I just pulled that other number out of my ass, not that it will affect me because like, bussy lamo amirite?
He's not wrong though, DNA tests should be mandatory for all births.
thats ☝️, man I love me some Thomas Jefferson hour.
I dont care about your morality bullshit, a dad can love a child all the same no matter whether he is the biological father or not, just ask any adopted or step father. You're just mad you think you'd end up a lyric from Golddigger and want to use the givernment to punish your thot
It's not just a silly argument to say that it's morally wrong to steal and destroy people's lives. Throwing someone in jail, ruining their career, and ruining their reputation is wrong. These things can and do happen daily. Just because something is difficult or expensive doesn't mean not doing it is the right thing to do.
I dont care about your morality bullshit, a dad can love a child all the same no matter whether he is the biological father or not, just ask any adopted or step father.
Contradiction. You're saying morality doesn't matter but then supporting that statement with one about the morality of non-biological parents loving their children.
It isn't about being loved. My dad is an adoptive parent. Our relationship is great. But he consented. He wasn't tricked or forced, he gave his love and commitment of his own free will, and that matters.
I suppose you and I just value different things. But I hope you consider that your arguments are not very strong, and the stakes are very high.
What I am saying is that, if the father never finds out then nothing has technically been stolen.
You and your partner were consenting adults near the time of inception and you knew the risks. If you used protection and were reasonably certain you didn't get her pregnant then you are certainly within your right to demand a paternity test. But if you don't know then it is, for all intents and purposes it is "your child" and you will feel as such seeing as you are reasonable certain that it is your child. If the wife/father wants to tell the dad raising the child then that is well within their right as well. I will also note that it is perfectly within your right to draw up a prenup that would allow you to take it all and walk away should cheating be confirmed.
and you're right; I value my money going towards things that matter to help improve the country, and you want to waste our already strained valuable resources breaking families apart with the crushing hammer of bureaucracy
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1 GeauxHouston22 2018-07-17
imagine the turbo-virgin mental gymnastics it takes to think that it's a BAD thing that germany has changed since the days of the nazis
1 le_epic_xd 2018-07-17
It's always the same with wehrmachtboos.
1 DarthNightnaricus 2018-07-17
It's Wehraboo, actually.
1 le_epic_xd 2018-07-17
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1 911roofer 2018-07-17
They're r/mgtow. They long for a strong Nazi man to shoot them in the face and end their pathetic existence.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
He's not wrong though, DNA tests should be mandatory for all births.
1 mydramaaccount 2018-07-17
DNA test should be mandatory. The woman shouldn't be able to name the father without a DNA test. The man should have the choice of opting-in as to whether to be the father or not.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
☝️☝️☝️
1 SuperiorExcess 2018-07-17
Yeah, I dont have a problem with DNA testing to know the true parents. Mandatory, meh. Dunno.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
Literally no reason not to.
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
Besides, ya know the cost of doing that
On the low end, thats 1.2 billion dollars per year spent on paternity tests.
I mean that isn’t even taking into account the fact that I will have some old POS accountant getting into even more aspects of my life. When we all know the only real solution is not marrying a thot, and better birth control.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
Prosecuting theft is too expensive! So let's just not do it 😂😂😂
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
The US agrees, which is why stealing less than 500 bucks only nets you a misdemeanor. There isn’t enough time in the day to throw the book at every Becky/Tom who steals a tube of toothpaste.
Also now that I think about it, they aren’t even equal to begin with. Prosecuting thieves could possibly get the stolen merchandise back, which would justify the cost. Thieves also are more likely to steal in the future, so taking one off the street could potentially save business money in the future. Mandatory paternity testing would add another cost onto child birth, and would almost certainly lead to an increase in single mothers/broken families which would lead to a higher monetary costs in the future (aka more people in jail, more drug addicts etc).
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
So stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from someone under the threat of jail time and destroying their life for non-payment is justified because it costs too much to do anything about it.
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
Yes, life aint fair bishhhhh
Same reason why the US army doesn't outfit their soldiers with the best combat armor available. That cost benny dont make sense. Besides, a better option already exists.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
Murder is wrong too, you weirdo :|
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
Murder suicide
and I feel like you should know I’m joking, about that. I still think the idea of mandatory paternity testing in the US is laughable
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
You have yet to justify this position besides hand-waving with cost as a justification.
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
But if you want more justification I can point to the 14th amendment of the Constitution of the United States and the Due Process Clause, the same clause that made Roe possibly would also make what you are proposing impossible. The protection afforded to the father would not be afforded to the mother, since someone has to raise the child. Also, if you think individual mandates don’t go over like a fart in church around here then you need to talk to your fellow countrymen.
Beyond that it’s just hard to wrap my head around the fact that you want the government telling you to waste money on frivolous shit that effects maybe 1/10 couples.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
We should get rid of frivolous wastes like birth certificates then. A clear violation of the Constitution. And one out of ten couples out of hundreds of millions is a lot fam.
Most people would be perfectly happy to do DNA testing if insurance covered it. Those who don't could absolutely refuse with no risk of penalty. It needn't be compelled by force. The suspicion of refusing is all that's needed.
Theft is wrong no matter how you spin it. Destroying people's lives--even the dreaded white male--is wrong. I'll take it a step further. Lying about a child's parent should be a felony.
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
No, because Birth Certificate save the United States money in the long run because its a standardized system for us all to use, similar to the time zones. so you could file it under the interstate commerce clause which would give full authority to Congress. I also just looked it up and Its also covered under XIV so that doesnt really work. I just pulled that other number out of my ass, not that it will affect me because like, bussy lamo amirite?
thats ☝️, man I love me some Thomas Jefferson hour.
I dont care about your morality bullshit, a dad can love a child all the same no matter whether he is the biological father or not, just ask any adopted or step father. You're just mad you think you'd end up a lyric from Golddigger and want to use the givernment to punish your thot
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-07-17
It's not just a silly argument to say that it's morally wrong to steal and destroy people's lives. Throwing someone in jail, ruining their career, and ruining their reputation is wrong. These things can and do happen daily. Just because something is difficult or expensive doesn't mean not doing it is the right thing to do.
Contradiction. You're saying morality doesn't matter but then supporting that statement with one about the morality of non-biological parents loving their children.
It isn't about being loved. My dad is an adoptive parent. Our relationship is great. But he consented. He wasn't tricked or forced, he gave his love and commitment of his own free will, and that matters.
I suppose you and I just value different things. But I hope you consider that your arguments are not very strong, and the stakes are very high.
1 Ravensthrowit 2018-07-17
What I am saying is that, if the father never finds out then nothing has technically been stolen.
You and your partner were consenting adults near the time of inception and you knew the risks. If you used protection and were reasonably certain you didn't get her pregnant then you are certainly within your right to demand a paternity test. But if you don't know then it is, for all intents and purposes it is "your child" and you will feel as such seeing as you are reasonable certain that it is your child. If the wife/father wants to tell the dad raising the child then that is well within their right as well. I will also note that it is perfectly within your right to draw up a prenup that would allow you to take it all and walk away should cheating be confirmed.
and you're right; I value my money going towards things that matter to help improve the country, and you want to waste our already strained valuable resources breaking families apart with the crushing hammer of bureaucracy
1 the_rachel2 2018-07-17
All that mental gymnastics just to support your crumbling narrative lmao. The absolute state of MGTOWcels
1 RichEvansSextape 2018-07-17
You couldn't project a cuckold fetish harder if you stenciled it onto a spotlight.